I don't understand why you people are so butthurt, if the random fleets are so bad why not be happy for some stuff to shoot at?

lets bring the fleet system I'm talking about in place and lets see if your "talents" to form a fleet are really needed

pretty sure people who join my fleetsystem know how to hit F1 as good as your "professionals"

most of you alliance guys suffer from the illusion that random people could not easily do what you do, at the end you are just random people as well... the system just simplifys fleeting up and makes you "important" smartmouth people a bit unimportant

and thats what you fear the most, not beeing able to tell everybody how good you are

Nobody is butthurt. But let me explain why it is a terrible idea to implement a game mechanic that everyone but you thinks will not work:

It will most likely not work.

"Ok, so it doesn't work - it's still worth a try" I hear you say. But that's not the case:

1 - Spending time developing a mechanic, that we all (except you) know will be terribad is a stupid idea. That time should be spend developing something we (or anybody, for that matter) can actually use.

2 - New players will log into the game, find a broken, terrible game mechanic, log out and never touch the game again. This already happens far too often, don't expand on that.

3 - Eve is a social game. Trying to take away from the social gameplay is tlike trying to take away the spaceships.


I don't expect you to understand this, since you clearly stated that you would rather watch a bot play the game for you instead of playing the game, but believe me - if everybody tells you, that something is a bad idea, it may just be a bad idea.

There is more to fleets then pressing F1. Beeing in the same system, warping to the same location at the same range at the same time, targeting the same target, calling out points, distributing ewar, switching from one target to a other at the same time.

You cant do that without coms. Simple as that.

Why people dont want your LFG tool to be integrated ? Because it is usually only the first step. First you whine about fletting up is so dificult and you want a fleet finder. When you get it, you will start to complain that your random fleet is not able to do acomplish anything because of missing coordination. So you whine again that the game should get simplyfied to give you a chance.

You know how LFR groups in WoW tend to break appart at the first wipe? You think it would be different in EvE? What kind of ships to you think people will bring into those random fleets? Shine BS ? Lol.

eve has become too much of a smartass game where some crazy dickheads control the entire game, it needs to get back to what gaming is about, there needs to be more options to bypassing the social interaction if you don't want that ****, people are getting tired of that, they want to play a game sure with others however the social interaction they want is by gaming not by talking to some kids that are just full of themselves

the numbers are growing, all aspects of the game need to be accessible without coms to attract a greater audience and to reduce the influence of the dickheads

no UI Buttons are there for communication, as well as the do not shoot fleetmember option is missing for that

I think you do not understand my idea

eve has become too much of a smartass game where some crazy dickheads control the entire game, it needs to get back to what gaming is about, there needs to be more options to bypassing the social interaction if you don't want that ****, people are getting tired of that, they want to play a game sure with others however the social interaction they want is by gaming not by talking to some kids that are just full of themselves

the numbers are growing, all aspects of the game need to be accessible without coms to attract a greater audience and to reduce the influence of the dickheads

there's a lot of things going on and required to herd and maneuver a proper fleet especially during fights that can not be expressed properly with just "orbit/keep at range" commands.

trust me, my system will be used only by people who are not that stupid, if you want to be a teacher and like students then keep your way of doing things, no problem

eve has become too much of a smartass game where some crazy dickheads control the entire game, it needs to get back to what gaming is about, there needs to be more options to bypassing the social interaction if you don't want that ****, people are getting tired of that, they want to play a game sure with others however the social interaction they want is by gaming not by talking to some kids that are just full of themselves

the numbers are growing, all aspects of the game need to be accessible without coms to attract a greater audience and to reduce the influence of the dickheads

listen to the coms, Primary Primary Primary, warp warp warp, repeat... the rest is just in your head

listen to the coms, Primary Primary Primary, warp warp warp, repeat... the rest is just in your head

Nope, what you fail to grasp is that this Game was designed a certain way. It has been called a niche game for a very long time, and it appeals to a group of gamers that have been looking for this sort of game. As in there is no other game like it.

That is why there are people that has been here for a very long time, it is not WoW, it is not like anyother. And that is why you get reponses like this.

As i see it, we have a group of people that has been enjoying the game as it is intended, and playing for quite a while, new people show up and see what we see and they too enjoy it.

However, then we get this self centered socially challenged folk that seem to want the rules to and mechanics to be changed and catered to them. Knowing full well, that after a a short period of time you will go on to another game and turn that into a an abortion of some sort too.

you want to keep everything the same because you are just unable to adapt... you are not advanced enough to understand where I'm going or what direction the world is going

does not work for 90% of the gamers, too complicated, a matchmaking system is needed to fleet the randoms up

now i'm confused.

you are the one asking things to be dumb down because you can't adapt on how EvE works.

you want to keep everything the same because you are just unable to adapt... you are not advanced enough to understand where I'm going or what direction the world is going

you are unable to understand that future human interaction will happen via technical solutions instead of your apemouth and ears

you are unable to grasp my vision, you just want to baa with your friends like sheeps on the meadow

does not work for 90% of the gamers, too complicated, a matchmaking system is needed to fleet the randoms up

Once apon a time WoW was like EvE. A WoW Server was a social comunity where people knew each other. You needed to be in a guild to do stuff. You needed to be on coms even for 5 man dungeons. It brought people together. Created friendships that lasted for years, even long after the people stoped playing WoW.
If you were a dickhead and got kicked out of your guild, other guilds would probaby not accept you as word of your actions could spread quite fast. This created a social pressure to behave. Bad for the dickheads, good for the honest players.

Just like beeing a dickhead in RL will mean that no one will invite you to partys anymore.

Then WoW introduced all the stuff that you want EvE to implemt. Gues what happend : Socal level dropped to the floor. The dickheads, trolls, leechers, ninjalooter and kiddys crawled out of every corner.

Blizz did not anticipate that. If they had, they probably would not have done it in the first place. Once it was done, they could not take it back. It took them years of lowering dificultiy and impletemting stuff like personal loot and vote to kick functions to get it under control. And its still unplayable for players with a interest in teamwork and social interacting. Which is the usual EvE player.

wtf is going on here, i need to unsubscribe from this shambles of a thread as his stupidness is making me think im stupid

What your asking for is essentially instanced Battleground type pvp.


This would destroy the game forever.