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Yurito
Amarr
Mercurialis Inc.
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.02 06:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Seleene
Kali stability 4tw. 
here's a patch!
here's a tournament!
here are the petitions 
O_o
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Xenny Lee
Minmatar
The Splinter Syndicate
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.02 07:18:00 -
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Edited by: Xenny Lee on 02/12/2006 07:20:50
Well a viable tactic and I think what spelled MC doom is to back out to about 50 km from center to avoid having someone properly orbiting you... (I believe the Celestis was doing this to dampen the team at "some" distance)
Step in these HACs and cruisers that possibly have full snakes and can close distances like a mad man... hit orbit 12 to avoid Webs and thats what you get........ If your sitting that close to the edge then you know its a risk....
I would recommend for future tourneys to keep the "tight" quick fighting but avoid things like the Ishkur incident to start the fight with that same radius, but then open it up to say 120k once say 4 ships have died to leave some space for some fancy flying and avoid having something like people resorting to bumping at the end of a fight to beat an uber tank.
Edit: After all is said and done though... No faction loot lost (nice rule) tomorow all the teams that got sucked out to this will have basically learned and adapted and while for some teams this will be a harsh hill to come back up from I dont see this as a full loss for anyone.
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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.02 07:23:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 02/12/2006 07:26:02
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
And is there molten lava on TQ or GMs standing by to /heal 0 you ? How is that part of EVE's pvp exactly ?
On THIS part, I do agree. The Heal 0 thing, and then whole "fish bowl" arena is just ridiculous. I understand it's done to encourage closer-range fights, but it in no way mirrors 'true' PvP. I would much prefer a broader playing field, with multiple warp-to points that would encourage even more insane tactics.
Bottom line - you should have to destroy your enemy, not get a GM to do it for you. It's debatable that we would have lost the match against BE had the ships involved been allowed to actually fight each other to the death, but neither side is crying about the outcome. We did what we did to make a couple points:
1.) We dislike the rule set and wanted to show just how insane it can be. Seriously, as funny as some might think it is, how the hell do you write up the in game fiction stating that an Imperial Apocolypse crossed an invisible ******* like in space and just VANISHED? It's crazy. So, with that in mind...
2.) MC went even crazier. It was fun! Shin and Pookie were ****ing themselve during the match and then laughing thier asses off on MC TS afterwards. Just hearing them say, "Holy ****, that was insane!" was worth the isk of the ships. 
A lot of people have asked about the Machariel.
- Max Speed was right at 7,200.
- The ship was capable of doing a 180 degree turn in 4 km.
- The pilot had a Full Grade Snake set (bought specifically for this)
- According to our pilot, he was 55km from LeMonde when he got Heal 0'd. What with lag and all though, who reallly knows?
We did this on a lark, because we could afford to do it and to have some fun. We hope it was entertaining. We have more to follow. 
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.02 08:07:00 -
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I was quite a bit out of synch when I was looting the cans after our fight, gotta take that into account in laggy situations like this with stupid eyecandy clouds that get in the way
About my impoc, as I said bumping has no effect on my tactics at all.
I'd be amazed if anyone could bump it out of arena with the setup and style we're using. Maybe if you had an undampable huginn with 2 webs and a machariel but no way without both.
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Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.02 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
About my impoc, as I said bumping has no effect on my tactics at all.
I'd be amazed if anyone could bump it out of arena with the setup and style we're using. Maybe if you had an undampable huginn with 2 webs and a machariel but no way without both.
Ty, web or no web, if that Mach hits your ship at 7.2 km a sec or any fraction thereof, you will go for one hell of a ride. But feel free to think otherwise and bring it into the 'arena'. 
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Sivona
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.02 13:12:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
I was quite a bit out of synch when I was looting the cans after our fight, gotta take that into account in laggy situations like this with stupid eyecandy clouds that get in the way
About my impoc, as I said bumping has no effect on my tactics at all.
I'd be amazed if anyone could bump it out of arena with the setup and style we're using. Maybe if you had an undampable huginn with 2 webs and a machariel but no way without both.
Is this an agreement to bring the impoc out against our bumpa-smarta-mach :D
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Raem Civrie
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.02 13:16:00 -
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/tr instead of heal 0.0
That's all.
P.s. MC - Less hate, more love :(
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Sivona
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.02 13:24:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Raem Civrie
/tr instead of heal 0.0
That's all.
P.s. MC - Less hate, more love :(
People would just drive their faction ships out if they were losing.
Raem tbh we arn't the ones complaining We really dislike a lot about this tournament, so we are going out to have a lot of fun and try and entertain. The video work didn't really do the tactic much justice to be honest :(
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Yalson
Caldari
Dark Centuri Inc.
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.02 13:33:00 -
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And you anticipated those camera problems, of course, and wisely chose to install a FRAPS camera in the front turret of that Machariel, right? I mean... right?!
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xBounty Hunterx
Blood Inquisition
Sani Khal'Vecna
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Posted - 2006.12.02 13:39:00 -
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Its a dirty trick, but it adds to the excitement.
If i saw someone coming towards me to bump me, i would get to as close to the edge as possible and turn my MWD on but stay still.
then when hes nearby just double click somewhere so he misses you and flies out of the area and boom.
Who here wouldnt pay 50mil to see that? 
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Sivona
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.02 13:40:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Yalson
And you anticipated those camera problems, of course, and wisely chose to install a FRAPS camera in the front turret of that Machariel, right? I mean... right?!
He was in a computer which couldn't run fraps :(
The eos pilot does have fraps i dont know how good it is. A lot of our frapsing ability has gone with all these random CTD's from kali we've tried to cut all the other programs we run so we reduce chance of CTD mid fight which might ruin the spectacle even more
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Yalson
Caldari
Dark Centuri Inc.
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.02 13:46:00 -
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Good point, Sivona. Is some added video footage really worth the additional risk of a CTD? Probably not, heck, if I was flying that Mach I'd probably refused having to worry about fraps as well.
CCP supports all those ingame videos -- wouldn't it be nice if each team would be allowed to bring one additional pilot in a cloaked polaris frigate for the tournament? Some of the videos out there are incredibly creative, this might be another win-win situation.
Doesn't change the fact that I'm still shocked about a smart-bombing Mach. My dream battleship, the one I'll never be able to afford... using SBs! What's the world come to...
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Sivona
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.02 13:49:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Yalson
Good point, Sivona. Is some added video footage really worth the additional risk of a CTD? Probably not, heck, if I was flying that Mach I'd probably refused having to worry about fraps as well.
CCP supports all those ingame videos -- wouldn't it be nice if each team would be allowed to bring one additional pilot in a cloaked polaris frigate for the tournament? Some of the videos out there are incredibly creative, this might be another win-win situation.
Doesn't change the fact that I'm still shocked about a smart-bombing Mach. My dream battleship, the one I'll never be able to afford... using SBs! What's the world come to...
There was a good reason for the smartbombs. We are getting fraps running on the mach from now on, its not that expensive tbh and we think the vids that could be made from it makes it worth the risk (seeing as we are doing this for entertainment anyway) 
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.03 08:14:00 -
[44]
I liked it. It shows ability of MC to think outside the box. But, if Shin Ra is right - then its... well... 
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Zarch AlDain
The Establishment
Establishment
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Posted - 2006.12.03 11:17:00 -
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Possible explanation: All ships going into the tournament are rigged by the tourney organisers with explosive charges linked to the beacon in the center of the arena. When the ECM burst is fired this also activates the charges for 15 minutes - go out of range of the beacon during this time and they detonate destroying the ship utterly.
I do think it would be nice to see a slightly larger arena combined with the current starting positions though.
Zarch AlDain
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Ithildin
Gallente
The Corporation
The Corporation Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.03 11:24:00 -
[46]
Sumo wrestling, anyone?
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