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Halcyon Doom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.24 18:22:56 -
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I wanted to get into solo PvP since it's been a big interest of mine ever since I started playing the game 5 years ago (before FW existed, before Dust514, before planetology, before T3 cruisers, etc). Solo PvP proficiency was always my background meta goal. I did missions for my first few months in the game years ago and then I lived in null. The PvP in nullsec was really fun but ultimately too time consuming for me since, it turns out, I needed to have a real-life job and make real-life money. In order to thrive in null I needed to play for hours on end.
I haven't been playing consistently for 5 years but I have spent the last 2 months really digging into solo PvP. I tried 2 different factions in FW thinking I would get some good targets. The FW fleets are boring because no one wants to fight 20 frigates. I just end up orbiting a plex beacon with blues for 15 minutes and eventually going afk due to the boredom... but I do like that there are occasionally players from the other factions/neutral looking for good 1v1 fights and tiny fleets vs 1(me). My hope for solo PvP was that I would be able to drive my own play schedule and I wouldn't be tied to a corp's PvP schedules. My dream was that I could hop on, play for an hour, and log off.
I am facing a serious problem with my EVE dream which is it seems like everyone who is not a part of my faction/corp/alliance is out to ruin the game for me. Low sec and null sec are very hostile places to be.. which, honestly, I sort of love about Eve Online... but is also incompatible for me as a player. Eve is one of the best games ever made but I just feel like the game is not suiting to my play style at this point in my life. I think the problem is I need so much time and patience and ISK to find a truly good fight. I don't feel like my log-on/log-off play style is going to change any time soon (or ever).
Every time I take a break from the game there are so many changes. I have to figure what is the latest OP thing to do (ok drone boats are OP now? Ok DDAs and drone boats just got nerfed, but they buffed heavy missiles...sigh...). I don't want to take a break and hope that there is some new mechanic to facilitate solo PvP. I want to play a game where, if a take a break for a few months, I can come back to it and I don't have to re-learn everything. I think I've just hit my limit with Eve Online and I don't want to play it anymore. I'm really bummed because I think the concept behind Eve is beautiful but it seems like the only real shot at solo PvP this game has to offer is high sec station dueling. Other solo play is PvE and I want to PvP with my videogame time.
Solo PvP is something I have thought a lot about and I've done a lot of research. Thinking I might be able to make improvements to my game play, I started watching twitch.tv streams and Youtube videos of other players solo PvP experiences. I was crushed to learn that most solo PvPers are either 1. not truly solo (i.e. loki links off grid) or 2. having the same experiences as me. I have read articles online for advice with no luck. I tried experimenting to develop a way to make solo PvP happen for me and I have not been able to find a solution with which I am happy.
Anyway... I love Eve Online and I hope it stays around a long time. Maybe one day I'll retire from my real-life job and I'll be able to play this game the way it's meant to be played. I'll keep a PLEX in my account just in case... but... for now... Bye.
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Hrett
Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop
404
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Posted - 2015.07.24 19:22:33 -
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If you are in FW, buy any T1 frigate you want, go to a border system, sit in a plex, and solo pvp will come to you. Or, go searching novice plex through various systems and you will find someone to fight. Many will be farmers and run, but you shouldnt have trouble finding someone to fight every 15-30mins if you actually go looking for it.
Ive never owned a booster. You can solo if you want, and you can small gang if you want and you dont need a booster. Many people have them, but it makes it more fun when you beat them.
I agree sometimes Eve can be boring because there is almost no "instant action" pvp. FW, I believe, is a close as you will ever get. I would stick it out. But its up to you to make your own content. Go find it. Dont wait on a FC. You dont need to be rich to fit 20 T1 Frigs (I dont know what race you fly, but Tristan, Incursus, Breacher, Rifter, Merlin and Tormenter are all acceptable). Buy a stack, fit them all the same way and go out and lose them. Repeat.
One of the corps I was in when I started EVE (EUNI Actually) was very adverse to a "bad" lossmail stinking up their killboard. I adhered to that idea for years. Its bullshit. It is the absolute WORST way to approach Eve. Screw the lossmails, screw losing and screw coveting your ship. Once you decide "I dont care what I lose, I am going to go out and look for trouble and I dont care what happens," Eve becomes a much better game.
Good luck.
spaceship, Spaceship, SPACESHIP!
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Hadrian Blackstone
Yamato Holdings
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Posted - 2015.07.24 19:56:38 -
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I usually don't use the word carebear but I am here. You want PvP but complain about the inherent hostility of places like low and null that harbor PvP? That doesn't make any sense. That's like saying "I like fighting but without the hitting and blood and stuff." Uh, hate to break it to you but you might not like fighting.
People are out to get you in this game, you've been playing for 5 years, how have you not grasped this elementary concept yet?
If this is trollbait well done. |
Aslon Seridith
Calibrated Chaos Habitual Chaos
376
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Posted - 2015.07.24 20:13:10 -
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Can I have your stuff.
pïí it's ASLON SERIDTH? | Minmatar Most Loved #1 | Gave Amarr a Medal | Orchestrator of BurnHuola'14 |
Author of: How to win FW in 3 months | Nullsec Bittervet | www.winmatar.com
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
729
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Posted - 2015.07.24 22:57:48 -
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TL;DR OP didn't GIT GUD
Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
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Civ Kado
Dutch East Querious Company Phoebe Freeport Republic
92
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Posted - 2015.07.25 03:52:07 -
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If you want 1v1s why not arrange something?
Oh, wait, you wanted guaranteed wins... |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1066
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Posted - 2015.07.25 06:50:32 -
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Have a look at three things, 1. NPSI groups like Spectre fleet and Bombers Bar, 2. the new T3 Destroyers, and 3. Thera. For me these are currently the main ingredients to fun in EvE. I'm basing out of Thera, the wormhole hub of New Eden gives you ever changing access to all regions of the cluster, for solo roam or with a fleet. Solo, the T3D allows me to dictate fights on everything in class below and to some extent in same or higher class.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Tiberius Mathusia
Gallente Rebels Inc. Villore Accords
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Posted - 2015.07.25 09:02:47 -
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More often than not I can't avoid solo PvP, typically when I just want to do a bit of plexing. Plenty of fights to be had in FW though it's not always balanced (Pirate faction frigates) bit I can just to a safe and they'll usually get bored and leave eventually. |
Oracle Computation
Republic University Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.07.25 11:26:21 -
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Become a pirate, they will come to you, warp within 10km and just drift along popular low sec places. |
pushdogg
Tell Your Mum To Call Me Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2015.07.25 11:37:58 -
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I find plenty of.opportunities to solo PvP.......the thing is, you have to be prepared to lose.....a lot. It appears you aren't. |
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Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
485
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Posted - 2015.07.25 13:30:59 -
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Move to Nisuwa, Undock, Pew. Either roam Nis-Ked-Tama, or Nis-Ked-Reit-Okka |
Jan en Chasteaux
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.07.25 17:32:05 -
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You have to define what you think solo PvP is. Equals 1vs1 easy to get just type "1vs1 anyone?" in your corp/allaince chat. or if you just like roam galaxy and find your victims... you can do that too. so what is it that you can not find? |
Tinnian Maso
UK Corp RAZOR Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.07.27 10:16:07 -
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Jan en Chasteaux wrote:so what is it that you can not find?
Easy kills by the sounds of things |
Stalence
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
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Posted - 2015.07.27 15:55:46 -
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Your post is full of salt but here are a few constructive suggestions you might want to try:
Try NPC NullSec or Thera - it doen't require any special large time commitments or allegiance to fleet up with some alliance. You can also roam into it from adjacent low or high sec regions.
Move to different Low Sec. FW space is definitely not dead, at least not on the Cal-Gal side of the map. Both factions and several third parties are regularly fielding fleets of all types of compositions and sizes. I never hear anyone complain that they are bored. Only caution here is that a lot of 'solo' combat here involves guys with links.
Try Red vs Blue in High Sec. I've never been a member but I think they have guys willing to do honorable 1v1s and arranged fights without third parties. A lot of their guys also trip into low sec for fights as well.
Change your woe-is-me attitude and seize all the opportunities that are out there.
Member of #tweetfleet @stalence //
Combat FRAPs on YouTube
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2015.07.27 16:29:31 -
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You've done the thing you thought would be fun and it turns out it was not fun.
Now you can either decide that you were wrong about what you thought would be fun and do something else that actually is fun or you can sit there feeling sorry for yourself and wallow in perpetual misery.
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Domino Vyse
Element Connective
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Posted - 2015.07.27 21:35:00 -
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Your first mistake was going to FW for PVP. FW is ******* shite.
Stick a jump clone in each of the trade hubs. When you log in, fit up a different ship than yesterday, fly to the nearest lowsec/nullsec system, and see what happens. Before you log, jumpclone to the next trade hub and repeat the process the next day.
This way, you wont be stuck with a stockpile of the same old ships in the same old systems, and it will keep things fresh.
Eve is full of risk averse bads who will blob/jam/use links against you, thats just how it is. It will eventually be the death of PVP, but thats another discussion all together. |
vccv
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Posted - 2015.07.28 07:44:36 -
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Some motivation if you havent quit already..
I like to think that people can achieve the similar results as those below if the take the proper steps, risks, and of course time.
Though there are those among us that are always going to be better than we coukd ever aspire to be. It would be quite boring if not. Good luck!
http://m.youtube.com/user/mrhyde113
or
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5881867
There are others, but I'll leave it at that. |
Plato Forko
123 Fake Street
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Posted - 2015.07.28 22:21:29 -
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it's all about the meta game these days. don't even need a game client, just a skill queue and forum access. booyah |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations
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Posted - 2015.07.29 20:31:45 -
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First off FW hasn't been introduced in the last 5 years , it's older and i believe it's released around 2008.
That said , i haven't really played the last year but before i ''took this break'' i was in FW.First i joined a caldari FW corp of some old evefriends of mine but as you i found that that often leads to 2vs1 or 3vs1.I then went solo ,without the use of any type of alt though i did use the occasional drug , stuck up ships in a lot of different stations and found myself getting a lot of fights 2vs1 or 1vs1.Sure you still get the occasional blob , especially when you are blinky , but you also tend to get a lot more 1vs1 fights as you are not affiliated to any side of the FW alliances and as such have more targets.
On a sidenote i found the guys from Spaceship Bebop in perticular to be VERRY sportive opponents who like to play it 1vs1 and usually honour it.I only had one time where they did not honour it and they where ''called back'' by their CEO to honour 1vs1's and where asked by that CEO to send me an apology for not honouring it.Something a lot of people would laugh about but something a vet like me who has been around in regards to dfferent types of pvp can appreciate verry much.In my experience the caldari usually tried to lure me into a blob and the gallente where using ''space bushido'' though offcourse there are exceptions depending on the corps/alliances.And i say this as a person with my closest eve friends being in caldari.As said i was used to pvp but not used to frig pvp so i learned a LOT from my time in FW space , especially since i rarely ever smack i got known with my opponents and they where never too bigheaded to share their fittings nor to point me on the flaws i made in a fight.
It was the best time of my 10 years then in eve.The guys and gals in FW space are great to have as friends and as enemies most of the times.
So in short , go pirate and make sure to stock up pre-fitted ships in different systems.This should give you more 1vs1 fights.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Hadrian Blackstone
Yamato Holdings
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Posted - 2015.07.29 20:59:33 -
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By the way solo PvP (no links/boosters/alts) is hard. Because 95% of the people you will find have at least one of the three things listed in parenthesis. |
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flakeys
Arkham Innovations
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Posted - 2015.07.29 21:19:14 -
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Hadrian Blackstone wrote:By the way solo PvP (no links/boosters/alts) is hard. Because 95% of the people you will find have at least one of the three things listed in parenthesis.
A lot has changed over the last year in FW then ...
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Doctor Knuckles
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
145
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Posted - 2015.07.30 09:17:23 -
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flakeys wrote:Hadrian Blackstone wrote:By the way solo PvP (no links/boosters/alts) is hard. Because 95% of the people you will find have at least one of the three things listed in parenthesis. A lot has changed over the last year in FW then ...
it has not, really.
People complaining like that with the trite baaaaw links boosters drugs alts everywhere mantra are just making excuses for their failures.
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Lucy Callagan
SnaiLs aNd FroGs Drama Sutra
25
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Posted - 2015.07.30 10:18:49 -
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Wow i didn't know that using booster was the same that having links.
[17:34:53] LucyCallagan > Respectez mon Eliterie je vous prie !
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Switch Savage
The Tuskers The Tuskers Co.
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Posted - 2015.07.30 15:04:48 -
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I think what it comes down to is mindset. If you have a defeatist mind set from the get go then you will find anything and everything to blame but yourself. I meet newbies every day that utilise the wealth of community resources available to start getting great solo kills early and are not sitting complaining about how unfair everything is.
One time in particular i killed a nice Russian fellow in a standard kite Tristan. He asked what he could have done better and his thirst for knowledge and excellent attitude had me ejecting from said Tristan and asking him to hop in it. The very next day he wrote me a beautiful eve mail thanking me and linking a 30m AB comet kill he snagged in it. |
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