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Rikkta
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Posted - 2006.12.03 11:13:00 -
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I'm intrigued by the rig that adds 10 grid...
What frigate would you put it on, and for what reason...
Be specific with fittings if possible!
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JustBlaze
Gallente
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
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Posted - 2006.12.03 11:14:00 -
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It is +10%
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Samurai1
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Posted - 2006.12.03 11:14:00 -
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Edited by: Samurai1 on 03/12/2006 11:17:29
Probably the ares or raptor i think theirs one more, since you would need a power aux to put a decent fit on.
Never mind if what blaze said is right id probably fit it on an arty bs setup or the minmatar new bc.
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Jacob Holland
Gallente
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.03 11:15:00 -
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Incursus/Ishkur
Removes the need to fit a MAPC in the lows in order to go with an MWD and frees them for a bit more armour.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.03 11:16:00 -
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pgrid rigs could go to the retri.
the ship realy needs them.
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons 
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Nir
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.12.03 11:34:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
pgrid rigs could go to the retri.
the ship realy needs them.
= small lasers are ridiculously difficult to fit.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.03 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Nir
Originally by: Grimpak
pgrid rigs could go to the retri.
the ship realy needs them.
= small lasers are ridiculously difficult to fit.
so true
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons
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Kunming
Amarr
adeptus gattacus
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.03 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nir
Originally by: Grimpak
pgrid rigs could go to the retri.
the ship realy needs them.
= small lasers are ridiculously difficult to fit.
Especially beams, retri is doomed to fit beams with 1 mid!
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Flaming sambuka
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2006.12.03 12:56:00 -
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Thers a mod that does that? so nowi can fit a full rack of neutrons on my enyo, whilst having a microscopic tank, yay! 
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Grimpak
Gallente
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.03 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Flaming sambuka
Thers a mod that does that? so nowi can fit a full rack of neutrons on my enyo, whilst having a microscopic tank, yay!
best of all is that grid rigs (and electronics grids aswell) don't have any kind of drawbacks and require only jury rigging lvl1
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Originally by: Tiuwaz
for caldari perception weapons that hit up to 100km are short range weapons
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.12.03 13:11:00 -
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crusader
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Calleb
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Posted - 2006.12.03 13:55:00 -
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any amarr ship - the power grid is too small on almost all of them
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Euphoria Released
Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.12.03 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Flaming sambuka
Thers a mod that does that? so nowi can fit a full rack of neutrons on my enyo, whilst having a microscopic tank, yay!
best of all is that grid rigs (and electronics grids aswell) don't have any kind of drawbacks and require only jury rigging lvl1
but have you looked at the needed components for the PG rig?? 
i'd say - taranis .. so you can drop the MAPC from the cookie cutter setup. but expect to cost the rig round 20x as much as the ship itself
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Posted - 2006.12.03 14:10:00 -
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*sigh*
As stated, it's 10%.
And right now it looks highly highly unlikely that anyone would fit rigs on a frig given their probable costs, especially with an uber rig that's gonna be as popular as this one.
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Freuthered
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Posted - 2006.12.03 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
pgrid rigs could go to the retri.
the ship realy needs them.
I just wanted to say Grim, that everytime I see your Sig I giggle like a little school girl. Its great
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Yoshimako
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Posted - 2006.12.03 15:28:00 -
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Frigs wont benefit that much from +10% however the likes of the Omen could benefit greatly from it.
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
The Keep
THE R0CK
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Posted - 2006.12.04 07:47:00 -
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Edited by: Audri Fisher on 04/12/2006 07:52:43
I would never fit a 100 mil plus mod on a frigate that you could never remove.
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Crellion
Art of War
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.04 07:58:00 -
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oh it will be removed soon enough... frigs pop all over the place on TQ.
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goodby4u
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Posted - 2006.12.04 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
pgrid rigs could go to the retri.
the ship realy needs them.
Eh?I can fit a medium gun without Advanced weapons upgrades on my retri i dont think i need more pg...
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Plague Black
4S Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.04 10:41:00 -
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Edited by: Plague Black on 04/12/2006 10:41:31
As someone already posted above, when you reprhrase the question the answer suddenly becomes very clear.
Q: Which frig would you rig with a 100,000,000 isk module?
A: None.
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Rafein
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.04 10:50:00 -
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no frig. Rokh.
frees up a low for damage mod
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Slevin Kalebra
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Posted - 2006.12.04 10:52:00 -
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Originally by: Plague Black
Edited by: Plague Black on 04/12/2006 10:41:31
As someone already posted above, when you reprhrase the question the answer suddenly becomes very clear.
Q: Which frig would you rig with a 100,000,000 isk module?
A: None.
Well people do fit more expensive modules than that (e.g. Gisti A-Type SSB) to assault frigates... not me though :)
But yeah, fitting any rig on a std. frigate, or even a cruiser right now would be extravangant to say the least.... given the rarity of the components at the moment they're going to remain toys for the very wealthy. 1 week of diligently looting every wreck I've come across has netted me enough components in total for one rig... unfortunately the mix of components I have won't all work together on the same rig and some of the rarer parts I have only 1-3 bits 
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Keravnos
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.04 14:30:00 -
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Edited by: Keravnos on 04/12/2006 14:34:34
Originally by: JustBlaze
It is +10%
actually, it's +10 MW - just like any regular micro auxiliary power core.
I also expect it will be obscenely expensive, like the better auxiliary power cores.
I'm going to put one on my buzzard. Most I can squeeze out is 18.75 MW which is seriously frustrating. I hate putting my MWD offline to run my probe launcher.
I should add - I use WCS for my two low slots - rather than burning one for the extra powergrid.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2006.12.04 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: Keravnos
Originally by: JustBlaze
It is +10%
actually, it's +10 MW - just like any regular micro auxiliary power core.
I also expect it will be obscenely expensive, like the better auxiliary power cores.
I'm going to put one on my buzzard. Most I can squeeze out is 18.75 MW which is seriously frustrating. I hate putting my MWD offline to run my probe launcher.
No, it's NOT +10 MW to PG.
The display of "+10" in showinfo is just another display inconsistency.
The rig is +10% to PG output, NOT +10 MW.
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Forino Ovoli
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Posted - 2006.12.04 14:41:00 -
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Edited by: Forino Ovoli on 04/12/2006 14:41:27
Originally by: Akita T
The display of "+10" in showinfo is just another display inconsistency.
The rig is +10% to PG output, NOT +10 MW.
Rather than this "he said / she said" debate on whether it is +10% or +10 power units, could someone cite a source or reason for your statement?
Personally I've not seen any rigs yet. I did not see any on Singularity either, so how does anyone know which way it is?
Absent such proof, I'd lean towards what the description seems to imply -> it is NOT percentage based. However, that is just an opinion as I have no basis for my belief.
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Razean
Minmatar
Agony Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.12.04 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Forino Ovoli
Edited by: Forino Ovoli on 04/12/2006 14:54:42
Originally by: Akita T
The display of "+10" in showinfo is just another display inconsistency.
The rig is +10% to PG output, NOT +10 MW.
Rather than this "he said / she said" debate on whether it is +10% or +10 power units, could someone cite a source or reason for your statement?
Personally I've not seen any rigs yet. I did not see any on Singularity either, so how does anyone know which way it is?
Absent such proof, I'd lean towards what the description seems to imply -> it is NOT percentage based. However, that is just an opinion as I have no basis for my belief.
Given CCPs well known complete lack of consistency, that's probably a rather poor direction to lean.
+10PG on a Frig is great. +10PG on pretty much everything larger than a Destroyer is nothing at all. Who's going to spend 100mil to add +10PG to a cruiser, nevermind a BS?
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2006.12.04 16:25:00 -
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People DID fit the rig when it was available on SiSi (when everybody had HAM spec L5 and salvaging/riggings at L3, etc).
Back then, it DID give a +10% PG not a +10MW, and it did display only "+10" in showinfo exactly as it displays now too.
Based on that, it would be unreasonable to assume it's been changed to actually give +10 MW instead of +10%.
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Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.04 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Forino Ovoli
Personally I've not seen any rigs yet. I did not see any on Singularity either, so how does anyone know which way it is?
Because you can buy them in FD-MLJ on SISI.
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Keravnos
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.04 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
People DID fit the rig when it was available on SiSi (when everybody had HAM spec L5 and salvaging/riggings at L3, etc).
Back then, it DID give a +10% PG not a +10MW, and it did display only "+10" in showinfo exactly as it displays now too.
Based on that, it would be unreasonable to assume it's been changed to actually give +10 MW instead of +10%.
I'll buy that. My conclusions were drawn simply from the lack of a "%". I've always had the most PG problems with frigates. It'd be nice if it was +10, because 10% of nothing is still nothing. Boo.
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Posted - 2006.12.04 19:20:00 -
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with only 2 med slots...crusader needs to be long range to do its job.
dual light beams are very difficult to fit. medium beams? might as well not exist.
Originally by: Tuxford
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