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Rahn Altyr
Minmatar Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:13:00 -
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GS really isnt AS far as they could get. The could go into the upper regions of the new 0.0 that has opened up, or they could switch over to the Chinese server....
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The Speaker
The Clue Factory
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Posted - 2006.12.05 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tao Han Is it just me that finds it mildly amusing that Goon now are residing as far away from BoB space as possible...
If you want to look at that particular angle and extrapolate based on the map, there are other notable alliances that supposedly are moving as far away from BoB space as possible too. 
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travelingsales
Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.06 02:56:00 -
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Originally by: Brian Detaah BoB [super lite]
This sounds like a new diet product tbh. Are you guys diversifying out of tech 2? Will it be competing with "Quafe 0"?
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.12.06 03:23:00 -
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You know...just to change the pace, I'd like to see BoB lose a major conflict.
~Thor Xian, Material Administrator
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Tetsujin
Caldari Band of Brosefs
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Posted - 2006.12.06 04:22:00 -
[35]
There are no what? Band of who? ty - Cortes |

Admentus Cor'vion
Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.07 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Zeknichov
Originally by: Vrizuh Note to self: Fly more Blackbirds
This topic now has value! 
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Tranik
Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS
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Posted - 2006.12.07 03:30:00 -
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sorry for asking, but was away from eve for over a year, before coming back 2 months ago.
But I have read many post about Bob hating goons anyone care to explain this to me?
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Tetsujin
Caldari Band of Brosefs
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Posted - 2006.12.07 03:39:00 -
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Edited by: Tetsujin on 07/12/2006 03:39:43
Originally by: Tranik sorry for asking, but was away from eve for over a year, before coming back 2 months ago.
But I have read many post about Bob hating goons anyone care to explain this to me?
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arkarsk
Provenance.
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Posted - 2006.12.07 07:16:00 -
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Tetsujin really isn't kidding
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Miss Overlord
Gallente Ferrum Pugnus New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.12.07 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Thor Xian You know...just to change the pace, I'd like to see BoB lose a major conflict.
can u say d2
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tbow10
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.07 07:40:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord
Originally by: Thor Xian You know...just to change the pace, I'd like to see BoB lose a major conflict.
can u say d2
Haha your kidding right where you one of the people saying ascn would spank us to. That just sounds vary simlar to what people said ascn would do.
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Gyro DuAquin1
Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.07 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord
Originally by: Thor Xian You know...just to change the pace, I'd like to see BoB lose a major conflict.
can u say d2
we are just carebears controled by trust and our fnhrer makes us pay endless isk for shuttles and clones and he now has his 23 Gistii cnr for "hangar rotation gaming"
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Halca
Candy Hearts
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Posted - 2006.12.07 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: Halca on 07/12/2006 10:08:50
Originally by: tbow10
Originally by: Miss Overlord
Originally by: Thor Xian You know...just to change the pace, I'd like to see BoB lose a major conflict.
can u say d2
Haha your kidding right where you one of the people saying ascn would spank us to. That just sounds vary simlar to what people said ascn would do.
BoB never fight anyone they aren't assured of victory against. Some might call it clever, some might call it easy mode. Everyone knew ASCN where a joke. BoB stomping them is hardly a challenge and I honestly think nobody actually believed otherwise.
If BoB had taken on someone like D2 or the Southern Coalition or you know an alliance that is actually able to fight, instead of Carebear central, you might get something of a challenge for all those skillpoints. Chances are the only way this would happen is if they where already engaged in a fight already or just finishing up one.
But hey, it's smart tactics to do what you do and kudos for being successful at it.
-Halca out ^.^
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Esaam DeVries
Infinite Improbability Inc Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.07 10:18:00 -
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.07 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Halca Edited by: Halca on 07/12/2006 10:08:50
Originally by: tbow10
Originally by: Miss Overlord
Originally by: Thor Xian You know...just to change the pace, I'd like to see BoB lose a major conflict.
can u say d2
Haha your kidding right where you one of the people saying ascn would spank us to. That just sounds vary simlar to what people said ascn would do.
BoB never fight anyone they aren't assured of victory against. Some might call it clever, some might call it easy mode. Everyone knew ASCN where a joke. BoB stomping them is hardly a challenge and I honestly think nobody actually believed otherwise.
If BoB had taken on someone like D2 or the Southern Coalition or you know an alliance that is actually able to fight, instead of Carebear central, you might get something of a challenge for all those skillpoints. Chances are the only way this would happen is if they where already engaged in a fight already or just finishing up one.
But hey, it's smart tactics to do what you do and kudos for being successful at it.
-Halca out ^.^
I'd just like to point out a couple of things..
1) We fight because of our own agenda not someone else's, if you don't know what that agenda is then you need to do a bit more research on life in 0.0 space and alliance politics because we don't exactly hide it.
2) Until we have beaten them or are about to beat them everyone is our nemesis, FA and then Imperium were going to wipe the floor with us until we schooled both of them back to empire for example.
3) Your character was created during June 2006, so you are three years behind us in terms of history and contribution to player driven content, so with respect what the flock do you know about anything? That's a rhetorical question because the answer is less then flock all.
Come back in a couple of years when you have grown up and either learnt to smack effectively or have achieved something in Eve.
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Nifel
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.07 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Halca BoB never fight anyone they aren't assured of victory against. Some might call it clever, some might call it easy mode. Everyone knew ASCN where a joke. BoB stomping them is hardly a challenge and I honestly think nobody actually believed otherwise.
If BoB had taken on someone like D2 or the Southern Coalition or you know an alliance that is actually able to fight, instead of Carebear central, you might get something of a challenge for all those skillpoints. Chances are the only way this would happen is if they where already engaged in a fight already or just finishing up one.
But hey, it's smart tactics to do what you do and kudos for being successful at it.
-Halca out ^.^
Funny that... people just like you said we should attack either ASCN, D2 or LV to 'prove' ourselves. No matter who we go after people like you will always pop up trying to goad us into the next target that hopefully, somehow, magically, will destroy us. All this goes to show is that the old saying "You can't please everyone" is just as true in EVE as in RL. But I'll be damned if it's not a lot harder to please the forumwhiners in the CAOD section.
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Halca
Candy Hearts
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Posted - 2006.12.07 10:44:00 -
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Edited by: Halca on 07/12/2006 10:48:08 You guys are both smart and effective, there is no doubt about it and I don't presume to have an inside track. I don't think anywhere in my post said otherwise.
However, it doesn't take three years of being in Eve to know that ASCN are a joke. And comparing them to alliances like LV or D2 is an insult to those alliances.
Thanks for the elitist remarks Blacklight, it's why so many people are fond of you. You've sure shown me the error of my ways. 
-Halca out ^.^
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.07 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Halca Edited by: Halca on 07/12/2006 10:48:08 You guys are both smart and effective, there is no doubt about it and I don't presume to have an inside track. I don't think anywhere in my post said otherwise.
However, it doesn't take three years of being in Eve to know that ASCN are a joke. And comparing them to alliances like LV or D2 is an insult to those alliances.
Thanks for the elitist remarks Blacklight, it's why so many people are fond of you. You've sure shown me the error of my ways. 
-Halca out ^.^
So appart from NAP everyone what have D2 done that earns them a rep? I'm not being elitist you're just wrong.
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Halca
Candy Hearts
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Posted - 2006.12.07 11:04:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Halca Edited by: Halca on 07/12/2006 10:48:08 You guys are both smart and effective, there is no doubt about it and I don't presume to have an inside track. I don't think anywhere in my post said otherwise.
However, it doesn't take three years of being in Eve to know that ASCN are a joke. And comparing them to alliances like LV or D2 is an insult to those alliances.
Thanks for the elitist remarks Blacklight, it's why so many people are fond of you. You've sure shown me the error of my ways. 
-Halca out ^.^
So appart from NAP everyone what have D2 done that earns them a rep? I'm not being elitist you're just wrong.
Drove out the Five. Hold on to the entire north after incursions by TCF, Goonswarm. That's as far as I can remember. As you've already pointed out I'm just a noob.
So apart from take on wrecked or carebear alliances (I can't believe you used Imp as an example by the way ), what have BoB done that's any different?
-Halca out ^.^
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.07 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Halca
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Halca Edited by: Halca on 07/12/2006 10:48:08 You guys are both smart and effective, there is no doubt about it and I don't presume to have an inside track. I don't think anywhere in my post said otherwise.
However, it doesn't take three years of being in Eve to know that ASCN are a joke. And comparing them to alliances like LV or D2 is an insult to those alliances.
Thanks for the elitist remarks Blacklight, it's why so many people are fond of you. You've sure shown me the error of my ways. 
-Halca out ^.^
So appart from NAP everyone what have D2 done that earns them a rep? I'm not being elitist you're just wrong.
Drove out the Five. Hold on to the entire north after incursions by TCF, Goonswarm. That's as far as I can remember. As you've already pointed out I'm just a noob.
So apart from take on wrecked or carebear alliances (I can't believe you used Imp as an example by the way ), what have BoB done that's any different?
-Halca out ^.^
I rest my case.
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Halca
Candy Hearts
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Posted - 2006.12.07 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Halca
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Halca Edited by: Halca on 07/12/2006 10:48:08 You guys are both smart and effective, there is no doubt about it and I don't presume to have an inside track. I don't think anywhere in my post said otherwise.
However, it doesn't take three years of being in Eve to know that ASCN are a joke. And comparing them to alliances like LV or D2 is an insult to those alliances.
Thanks for the elitist remarks Blacklight, it's why so many people are fond of you. You've sure shown me the error of my ways. 
-Halca out ^.^
So appart from NAP everyone what have D2 done that earns them a rep? I'm not being elitist you're just wrong.
Drove out the Five. Hold on to the entire north after incursions by TCF, Goonswarm. That's as far as I can remember. As you've already pointed out I'm just a noob.
So apart from take on wrecked or carebear alliances (I can't believe you used Imp as an example by the way ), what have BoB done that's any different?
-Halca out ^.^
I rest my case.
Then I've acheived something.
-Halca out ^.^
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.07 11:16:00 -
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Originally by: Halca Then I've acheived something.
Yes, congratulations for showing your ignorance, well done.
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Silvero
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.07 11:24:00 -
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Halca your forerunner in this discussion about us only targeting the weak, is Baun. You might wanna check his numerous responses in countless threads before you dive heads first into the same flawed and extraodinary line of reasoning.
And i gonna provide you with a list of these so called weak alliances, that we have danced with the during the years.
PA,FU,NSA,FA,FIX,IMP,VC,SA,Huzzah,CODA,GOON's,ASCN
I have left out the alliances we only have had clashes with. (G now D2, IRON, FE, NORAD now RISE)
So with your logic the entire eve map from north to south on the westside has been populated or rather was populated by useless ppl.
When i come to think about it the first alliance in that list PA took longer time to kill then your account is old so i suggest you zip it.
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Ceratin
ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.07 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
So appart from NAP everyone what have D2 done that earns them a rep? I'm not being elitist you're just wrong.
We dont need a rep thx.. not everyone plays the game for that :) I think its a shame goonies had already bled out uber billions on their war with us before you guys got a chance to play with them, There were occasions when they surprised me with how good they could be with such a low skilled player base. I think their new coalition with ra and some new isk will make them a deadly challenge for anyone (maybe that war might even warrant some forum chest beating, unlike some recent carebear bashing activities) :P ------------
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Dekiri
Beer and Kebabs Pirate Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.07 11:36:00 -
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As usual i am amazed by the ammount of stupid in this thread, but then again its a bob thread(no offense).
It is a fact that no matter who BoB would have taken on there would be people to claiming they are going the "easy path".
I am going to be honest to the "ASCN ARE NEWBS" crew and say frankly that you are a bunch of newbs without a clue. Taking on ASCN was definitly one of the more risky things BoB could have done. Attacking D¦ (without E-R) or LV who are busy already anyways and hold a region very much useless to BoB considering its location, who should they have gone for? ASCN is definitly the biggest fish to tackle at the moment and everybody who has been playing eve for a bit and is watching these forums should also know this. The fact that the BoB propaganda machine makes you all think they are totally owning ASCN and the people who have no clue about alliances would look at this and say woah.. ASCN are getting spanked for real! I would like you to consider that ASCN is HUGE.. They probably have gigantic areas where they still NPC and mine safer then in empire and they have not lost a single of their what?? 18??? outposts?? They might not have the experience or average sp BoB has, but they sure have numbers AND TIME. BoB has taken on something that might in the end turn out to be to much to chew if ASCN get their act together.
I would go for a lot more relativism in the whole discussion, because everybody knows that destroying an alliance of this size is almost impossible and pushing this massive number of carebears back to empire is also impossible. So now we know BoB can't and wont try to actually destroy ASCN and they just came out to play some and maybe do that for an extended period of time.
And afterall it is not rocket science.. ASCN will learn how to fight and once they have BoB will be "bored" or busy with other things. And it isn't even special or unexpected, because noone sane expects BoB to remove ASCN from the galaxy. This is just how it will be ...
If it should really happen that BoB manages to destroy ASCN or even have CYVOK retreat from his position as leader then i would really be impressed to be honest, because that is gonna take something more then shooting some pixel. -------------- My dad can beat up your dad!
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.07 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: Blacklight on 07/12/2006 11:39:57
Originally by: Ceratin
Originally by: Blacklight
So appart from NAP everyone what have D2 done that earns them a rep? I'm not being elitist you're just wrong.
We dont need a rep thx.. not everyone plays the game for that :) I think its a shame goonies had already bled out uber billions on their war with us before you guys got a chance to play with them, There were occasions when they surprised me with how good they could be with such a low skilled player base. I think their new coalition with ra and some new isk will make them a deadly challenge for anyone (maybe that war might even warrant some forum chest beating, unlike some recent carebear bashing activities) :P
Sorry, you're Syndicate based pirates right? Just out of interest what does your corp know about alliance warfare? Apart from nothing I mean.
P.S. A short period in Eve's most mocked alliance i.e. Imperium doesn't count, for obvious reasons to do with having even the slightest bit of competence.
I could be wrong of course but as you've built such a 'stella' rep for yourselves that would be hardly surprising!
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.07 11:45:00 -
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Edited by: Blacklight on 07/12/2006 11:46:24
Originally by: Dekiri And it isn't even special or unexpected, because noone sane expects BoB to remove ASCN from the galaxy. This is just how it will be ...
If it should really happen that BoB manages to destroy ASCN or even have CYVOK retreat from his position as leader then i would really be impressed to be honest, because that is gonna take something more then shooting some pixel.
That's a keeper, saving it, thanks 
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.07 11:46:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 07/12/2006 11:48:08
Originally by: Halca However, it doesn't take three years of being in Eve to know that ASCN are a joke. And comparing them to alliances like LV or D2 is an insult to those alliances.
ASCN built the first Outpost and has built more than any other alliance. ASCN has run extensive military campaigns all over EVE for the past year and a half, some even at BoB's side. ASCN has conquered a hostile region and driven the former owners out. ASCN built the first Titan.
The list could be longer, but all of the above do not add up to a 'joke'. All of the above are also not purely carebear / industrial achievements. BoB chose to pick a fight with the biggest kid on the block. I think it's fair to say that both sides have been surprised by how things have gone. Still, where is this 'insult' to D2 or LV? 
PS û The fact that Blacklight and I are posting in all the same threads today is purely coincidental.  -
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.07 11:48:00 -
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The 5 disbanded and they didnt get driven out by D2 and to be accurate it was G and Fate fightign aginst the 5 and FE in tribute , D2 got formed later on once they started to relocate to the deserted Branch after PA was dead and buried.
An alliance without a rep and achievemnt is as good as npc corps , only good to join ur money making alt and enjoy the noob talk in corp chat  "There is no such thing as innocence , only different degrees of guilt"
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.07 11:58:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 07/12/2006 12:01:38 BL
The sincere question on everyones lips righ tnow, is will BoB finish of ASCN (remove them completely from thier space) b4 moving onto the Goons, or will the Goons draw your eye too early on.
This isnt question you can answer i spose, actions only will answer it, but its certainly a question that deserves recognition.
Despite the usual Forum assault, I think BoB so far has done exactly what they said they would do. They havent shied away, or shirked any step. From a much more informed view, I know that BoB is ahead of thier own schedule, and have much admiration for what you have done down their, it is quite simply a real War.
Like many others, I am watching it develop with keen interest.
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