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Pan Crastus	Posted - 2006.12.03 16:49:00 - [1] Perhaps the Devs might want to think about this again. XL guns and launchers should do a bit more damage than medium guns, don't you think? ;-) (and yes, I know that they have Doomsday devices and should be supported by a fleet, but if the DPS of the fitted guns is pathetic, bordering on the ridiculous, why bother with giving them hardpoints at all?)
Kate Darieux	Posted - 2006.12.03 17:19:00 - [2] XL large guns? Doing the same damage as medium guns? Maybe you're trying to hit a very small target? If you are, don't expect to have a ridiculous DPS, those guns aren't supposed to be shooting small stuff.
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.12.03 17:22:00 - [3] What are you talking about? Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
Xrak Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.03 17:23:00 - [4] Titans should not be a solopwn machine.
Vale Grobag	Posted - 2006.12.03 17:25:00 - [5] this aka the noob titan
Ather Ialeas Amarr Karjala Inc. Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.03 17:27:00 - [6] Originally by: Xrak Titans should not be a solopwn machine. And yet they seem to be...well in rare cases anyway. And in my opinion that's a great thing. CCP, please boost Doomsday's damage another 50%!
Templer Relleg FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.03 17:28:00 - [7] Originally by: Pan Crastus Perhaps the Devs might want to think about this again. XL guns and launchers should do a bit more damage than medium guns, don't you think? ;-) (and yes, I know that they have Doomsday devices and should be supported by a fleet, but if the DPS of the fitted guns is pathetic, bordering on the ridiculous, why bother with giving them hardpoints at all?) sigh 1. Titans are NOT cost effective. Oveur pointed this out nicely at the fanfest: http://dna.griefwatch.net/goonswarmdumbass.wmv 2. Xl Guns and launchers, have a huge explosion radius, and chances are you have been shooting at a frigate, not a POS. Thus the dps sux.
KrogothZero Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.03 17:34:00 - [8] Your all missing the point even if the titan landed every shot it would still suck. The only time the guns don't suck is if you use them with a siege module then the numbers add up..
Daos Leghki Paxton Industries	Posted - 2006.12.03 17:46:00 - [9] The fact that a titan even HAS guns is pretty unimportant. It's use is primarilly as a logistics tool, and occasionally as a "wipe out this enemy fleet" kind of thing. Repopulate Low-Sec Paxton Industries is Recruiting
Pan Crastus	Posted - 2006.12.03 18:16:00 - [10] Originally by: KrogothZero Your all missing the point even if the titan landed every shot it would still suck. The only time the guns don't suck is if you use them with a siege module then the numbers add up.. Precisely. For all those who haven't been paying attention / thinking etc. etc., compare a) 425mm AutoCannon II with Hail M (e.g. on a Hurricane) b) 6x2500mm Repeating Artillery I with EMP XL (on a Ragnarok) Very similar DPS. Yes, this is partly about T2 being so much better than T1, but the claim in my first posting is still true. I find this odd and unbalanced. Yes, Titans should not be solo pwnmachines (why not actually?), but even Carriers outdamage them by a great margin with their Fighters (some of the even with Heavy Drones).
Pan Crastus	Posted - 2006.12.03 18:20:00 - [11] Originally by: Daos Leghki The fact that a titan even HAS guns is pretty unimportant. It's use is primarilly as a logistics tool, and occasionally as a "wipe out this enemy fleet" kind of thing. That's about as much reason to have hardpoints as there is for a Carrier.
Indra Sebuchiore Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2006.12.03 18:21:00 - [12] Originally by: Templer Relleg 1. Titans are NOT cost effective. Oveur pointed this out nicely at the fanfest: http://dna.griefwatch.net/goonswarmdumbass.wmv Ye gods, that fan's a walking stereotype! __________________________________________ "In girum imus nocte, et consumimur igni."
Quin Tal Fort Knox Inc Expeto Libertas Foedus	Posted - 2006.12.03 18:22:00 - [13] Quote: http://dna.griefwatch.net/goonswarmdumbass.wmv Guy sounds like an ex dungeons and dragons player lol. I didn't even understand his question that well because his communication skills go down the toilet in a public setting. But Oveur answered the questions nicely.
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.03 18:25:00 - [14] Even if a titan could fit turrets that would do decent damage, it still wouldn't. It's not a damage dealer combat ship, it's a logistics support ship and weapon of terror, and contrarily to what Oveur seems to be indicating, it actually is cost effective imo. Old blog
Blind Man Caldari Kemono.	Posted - 2006.12.03 18:31:00 - [15] Originally by: KrogothZero Your all missing the point even if the titan landed every shot it would still suck. The only time the guns don't suck is if you use them with a siege module then the numbers add up.. no siege mode on a titan.. Sig removed.\o/ It's great flying Amarr, ain't it?
Sales Merchant	Posted - 2006.12.03 18:40:00 - [16] The bigger the gun/missile, the harder it is to hit something small. A titan trying to hit a battleship would be like a battleship trying to hit a frigate. Even if it does hit, it wont be for much.
Xirtech HCIB Industrial Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.03 18:53:00 - [17] What about Titan for POS killing? -------------------- Chief Executive Officer HCIB Industrial
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.12.03 18:55:00 - [18] Titan itself is fine, its basically a titan size Tempest. It's the guns that suck. ~Thor Xian, Material Defender "Victory is the weakness of the enemy." Corp/Alliance Services
Hoshi DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.03 20:14:00 - [19] It got a really nice alpha strike at least :) ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
ytfiytfi	Posted - 2006.12.03 20:21:00 - [20] Fit medium or large guns, dmg problem solved. You've got the best tank in EVE, you can sit there forever (give or take a few minutes).
Malthros Zenobia Caldari Independent Navy Reserve	Posted - 2006.12.03 20:49:00 - [21] Originally by: Pan Crastus Perhaps the Devs might want to think about this again. XL guns and launchers should do a bit more damage than medium guns, don't you think? ;-) (and yes, I know that they have Doomsday devices and should be supported by a fleet, but if the DPS of the fitted guns is pathetic, bordering on the ridiculous, why bother with giving them hardpoints at all?) Maybe you should just use half a dozen gang mods and boost the living bejsus out of your fleet? Originally by: kieron The Carrier was never intended to be a solo OMGWTF mission-farming PWNmobile.

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