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Gonnviear
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.28 09:21:23 -
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So i've having an arguement with some of my friends on viablity of doing C4 ratting sites solo in Maradur or a Tengu.
True or False?
I've actually tried to find on internet some answers but except few youtube videos which i dunno if they really are C4 i didnt find answers.
Would love to hear from WH veterns if possible.
Kthanks. |
poerkie
Viperfleet Inc. Official Winners Of Takeshi's Castle
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Posted - 2015.07.28 09:32:15 -
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true
but passive rattler |
Aladar Dangerface
13. Enigma Project
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Posted - 2015.07.28 10:08:09 -
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Marauders can solo C4s pretty easy (Kronos my be the exception due to projection issues). Tengu needs to be very bling fit to solo them. Rattlesnakes can solo them pretty well though as said.
There is a nice stickied thread called what i should use to kill sleepers up near the to of the wh sub-forum. Have a wee look there for more info.
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Gonnviear
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.28 10:22:17 -
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Elaborate? Active tanking wount cut it? How long it takes per a site? |
Mixery82
Friends Of Harassment EON Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.28 10:52:48 -
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Frontier Barracks takes 13-15 min in a Solo Paladin. |
Gonnviear
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.28 11:00:03 -
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Also ive checked thread above. Doesnt give alot of examples of c4 fits. Also whats RR POST FIX ive seen several times |
HoruSeth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.28 11:08:20 -
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Since RR Patch passive rattlers have a tought time breaking the RR Tank of some spawns. From what I have heared, the performance of a passive Rattle in C4 solo dropped a lot when RR was fixed for the NPCs.
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Gonnviear
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.28 11:10:15 -
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So active rep is required? How much dps u need to break their tank in c4 |
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
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Posted - 2015.07.28 12:00:56 -
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Gonnviear wrote:So active rep is required? How much dps u need to break their tank in c4
Afaik the toughest wave is the third in barracks (many preservers), they rep something close to 800/s it feels like. Once tried being smart and shoot a cruiser first, but his armor wasn't dented much by just 1300dps... Going for BS first is a lot easier. |
Merena Enderas
Raiders of the Space GANOR INC.
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Posted - 2015.07.28 13:23:59 -
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With 3 RR tengus you can run every 100%er without any trouble. Dont need to be bling bling.
Quote:Fit:
[Tengu, C4 sites] Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers
5x Heavy Missile Launcher II Large Remote Shield Booster II
2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Large Shield Extender II
3x Ballistic Control System II Type-D Restrained Capacitor Power Relay Damage Control II
2x Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Or you take Armageddons / Spacepotatos, works same with Armor but less mobile
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HoruSeth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.28 14:04:42 -
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Merena Enderas wrote:With 3 RR tengus you can run every 100%er without any trouble.
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Gonnviear wrote:So i've having an arguement with some of my friends on viablity of doing C4 ratting sites solo in Maradur or a Tengu.
I have marked the relevant part of the post for you ;)
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Andrew Jester
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2015.07.28 14:23:14 -
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multi-box gitgud
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Merena Enderas
Raiders of the Space GANOR INC.
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Posted - 2015.07.28 14:31:46 -
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HoruSeth wrote:Merena Enderas wrote:With 3 RR tengus you can run every 100%er without any trouble.
? Gonnviear wrote:So i've having an arguement with some of my friends on viablity of doing C4 ratting sites solo in Maradur or a Tengu.
I have marked the relevant part of the post for you ;)
Solo dont means , you have not more chars :p
And he asked for RR so he need minimum 2 Chars.
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HoruSeth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.28 14:36:44 -
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Merena Enderas wrote:Solo dont means , you have not more chars :p And he asked for RR so he need minimum 2 Chars.
I understood he asked because of RR of the sleepers, which was patched (last year?)? Because many videos and fittings belonging to the time before RR on NPCs was patched and therefore are not reliable anymore probably.
And solo means solo in that case. Otherwise he would have pointed out to be able to fly with a wingman ...
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Gonnviear
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.28 14:50:57 -
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Yes. Pure solo for max isk. Preferably ina tengu cause i saw youtube video with freaking t2 tengu doing this and ive always heard its impossible so something must changed. Im sure someone here eho does c4 that can confirm or deny the visbility of solo tengu no links no second account etcetc. |
HoruSeth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.07.28 15:03:35 -
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can you link the video?
Because often those people don't tell you about links or wormhole effects ;)
I doubt you can do nowadays C4 in a T2 Tengu with acceptable performance.
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Gonnviear
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.28 15:11:27 -
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C4 WH Ratting - Cheap Tengu: https://youtu.be/GPqvEwpPo-w |
MooMooDachshundCow
Incertae Sedis
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Posted - 2015.07.28 15:13:33 -
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Gonnviear wrote:Im sure someone here eho does c4 that can confirm or deny the visbility of solo tengu no links no second account etcetc.
Confirmed. Solo tengus without links or second accounts are full visible, assuming of course they're not cloaked.
Yeah, well, it's just like my-áopinion, man.
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Paul Vashar
Periphery Bound New Signature
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Posted - 2015.07.28 15:27:42 -
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Since RR got fixed, and having flown 100MN AB Tengus in C4s for far too long prior to the RR patch, don't waste your time doing it with just 1 tengu. You'll need more than the 5-600ish dps you'll get from Heavy Missiles to break a lot of them.
Marauders should still do fine, and Rattlers are still working (unless you suck/poor).
I'd suggest doing C3s if you want to do solo, 1 character only, unless it's a Marauder. |
Gonnviear
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.07.28 15:34:40 -
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Rattlesnake will do? |
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Obil Que
Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.28 15:35:50 -
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Is this thing stickied here yet?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17cNu8hxqJKqkkPnhDlIuJY-IT6ps7kTNCd3BEz0Bvqs/pubhtml#
This spreadsheet was posted before and details quite well the DPS and tank needed for all the anoms in w-space. Do your EFT math and figure it out. |
Aladar Dangerface
13. Enigma Project
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Posted - 2015.07.28 15:43:02 -
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A rattlesnake will blitz C3s, your probably gona make more isk solo that way than in a c4 (unless you go for a marauder).
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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
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Posted - 2015.07.28 16:17:03 -
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So in that video, the last wave has 338/0.4 - 845 - ehp remoterep... sounds about right. |
MooMooDachshundCow
Incertae Sedis
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Posted - 2015.07.28 16:34:41 -
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Gonnviear wrote:Rattlesnake will do?
Here comes the airplane!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4XXvGsnrok
Wow, and all I had to do was google "C4 solo rattlesnake". /s
Yeah, well, it's just like my-áopinion, man.
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Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc. Low-Class
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Posted - 2015.07.28 17:31:16 -
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make more isk doing c3s
C4s are meant to be done in groups. |
Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.29 04:35:15 -
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Mixery82 wrote:Frontier Barracks takes 13-15 min in a Solo Paladin.
The performance from passive tanking ships are terrible.
How can this be? A passive Rattler can do 400 missile dps and 430 drone dps. Whereas a Paladin has to fit for cap stability to endure the neuting pressure so it's dps drops to 750 Tachyon dps and 90 hammerhead II dps.
So how can a Paladin solo C4s and a Rattlesnake cannot when both have roughly the same dps? |
Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.07.29 04:37:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:make more isk doing c3s
C4s are meant to be done in groups.
I hear C3 sit spawn rates are much slower than C4s AND are a lot more....active.
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Jack Miton
WeebleCORP
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Posted - 2015.07.29 04:42:02 -
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Do people like, not know this site exists??? http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=WormholeSpaceClass4
It has all the DPS numbers on it for each site so assuming you passed grade 3 maths and know that EFT exists, you should be able to figure it out...
PS: If you're worried about the neuting, you can look that up too. http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/inventory.php?category_id=11
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Mixery82
Friends Of Harassment EON Alliance
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Posted - 2015.07.29 06:10:21 -
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Daniela Doran wrote:Mixery82 wrote:Frontier Barracks takes 13-15 min in a Solo Paladin.
The performance from passive tanking ships are terrible. How can this be? A passive Rattler can do 400 missile dps and 430 drone dps. Whereas a Paladin has to fit for cap stability to endure the neuting pressure so it's dps drops to 750 Tachyon dps and 90 hammerhead II dps. So how can a Paladin solo C4s and a Rattlesnake cannot when both have roughly the same dps?
A well fitted C4 Pala do a way more than 750 DPS. My Pala dose on: Multi 1082 DPS 70+47 km Gamma 992 DPS 87+47 km Xray 902 DPS 104+47 km
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HoruSeth
Republic University Minmatar Republic
987
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Posted - 2015.07.29 08:54:13 -
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MooMooDachshundCow wrote:
This Video was taken in a Pulsar Wormhole: http://www.staticmapper.com/index.php?system=J121006
So the Rattlesnake Pilot could fit for much more gank. In every other C4 Wormhole you need more tank, when you would need more gank to break the initial remote rep. That's the problem. Yes Rattlesnakes will still finish C4s, but unless you are in a Pulsar, it will be much slower / harder than we could see in that video. ;)
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