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Gonnviear Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.07.28 09:21:23 - [1] - Quote So i've having an arguement with some of my friends on viablity of doing C4 ratting sites solo in Maradur or a Tengu. True or False? I've actually tried to find on internet some answers but except few youtube videos which i dunno if they really are C4 i didnt find answers. Would love to hear from WH veterns if possible. Kthanks.
poerkie Viperfleet Inc. Official Winners Of Takeshi's Castle 14	Posted - 2015.07.28 09:32:15 - [2] - Quote true but passive rattler
Aladar Dangerface 13. Enigma Project 202	Posted - 2015.07.28 10:08:09 - [3] - Quote Marauders can solo C4s pretty easy (Kronos my be the exception due to projection issues). Tengu needs to be very bling fit to solo them. Rattlesnakes can solo them pretty well though as said. There is a nice stickied thread called what i should use to kill sleepers up near the to of the wh sub-forum. Have a wee look there for more info. I don't need twitter. I'm already following you.
Gonnviear Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.07.28 10:22:17 - [4] - Quote Elaborate? Active tanking wount cut it? How long it takes per a site?
Mixery82 Friends Of Harassment EON Alliance 17	Posted - 2015.07.28 10:52:48 - [5] - Quote Frontier Barracks takes 13-15 min in a Solo Paladin.
Gonnviear Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.07.28 11:00:03 - [6] - Quote Also ive checked thread above. Doesnt give alot of examples of c4 fits. Also whats RR POST FIX ive seen several times
HoruSeth Republic University Minmatar Republic 987	Posted - 2015.07.28 11:08:20 - [7] - Quote Since RR Patch passive rattlers have a tought time breaking the RR Tank of some spawns. From what I have heared, the performance of a passive Rattle in C4 solo dropped a lot when RR was fixed for the NPCs. With me is not good cherry eating, but you can steal horses with me.
Gonnviear Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.07.28 11:10:15 - [8] - Quote So active rep is required? How much dps u need to break their tank in c4
Lloyd Roses Artificial Memories 1225	Posted - 2015.07.28 12:00:56 - [9] - Quote Gonnviear wrote: So active rep is required? How much dps u need to break their tank in c4 Afaik the toughest wave is the third in barracks (many preservers), they rep something close to 800/s it feels like. Once tried being smart and shoot a cruiser first, but his armor wasn't dented much by just 1300dps... Going for BS first is a lot easier.
Merena Enderas Raiders of the Space GANOR INC. 2134	Posted - 2015.07.28 13:23:59 - [10] - Quote With 3 RR tengus you can run every 100%er without any trouble. Dont need to be bling bling. Quote: Fit: [Tengu, C4 sites] Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers 5x Heavy Missile Launcher II Large Remote Shield Booster II 2x Adaptive Invulnerability Field II EM Ward Field II Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron Large Shield Extender II 3x Ballistic Control System II Type-D Restrained Capacitor Power Relay Damage Control II 2x Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Or you take Armageddons / Spacepotatos, works same with Armor but less mobile Youtube Wormhole Projekt Ingame Channel: All Hail BoB

HoruSeth Republic University Minmatar Republic 987	Posted - 2015.07.28 14:04:42 - [11] - Quote Merena Enderas wrote: With 3 RR tengus you can run every 100%er without any trouble. ? Gonnviear wrote: So i've having an arguement with some of my friends on viablity of doing C4 ratting sites solo in Maradur or a Tengu. I have marked the relevant part of the post for you ;) With me is not good cherry eating, but you can steal horses with me.
Andrew Jester ElitistOps Pandemic Legion 1266	Posted - 2015.07.28 14:23:14 - [12] - Quote multi-box gitgud If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
Merena Enderas Raiders of the Space GANOR INC. 2164	Posted - 2015.07.28 14:31:46 - [13] - Quote HoruSeth wrote: Merena Enderas wrote: With 3 RR tengus you can run every 100%er without any trouble. ? Gonnviear wrote: So i've having an arguement with some of my friends on viablity of doing C4 ratting sites solo in Maradur or a Tengu. I have marked the relevant part of the post for you ;) Solo dont means , you have not more chars :p And he asked for RR so he need minimum 2 Chars. Youtube Wormhole Projekt Ingame Channel: All Hail BoB
HoruSeth Republic University Minmatar Republic 987	Posted - 2015.07.28 14:36:44 - [14] - Quote Merena Enderas wrote: Solo dont means , you have not more chars :p And he asked for RR so he need minimum 2 Chars. I understood he asked because of RR of the sleepers, which was patched (last year?)? Because many videos and fittings belonging to the time before RR on NPCs was patched and therefore are not reliable anymore probably. And solo means solo in that case. Otherwise he would have pointed out to be able to fly with a wingman ... With me is not good cherry eating, but you can steal horses with me.
Gonnviear Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.07.28 14:50:57 - [15] - Quote Yes. Pure solo for max isk. Preferably ina tengu cause i saw youtube video with freaking t2 tengu doing this and ive always heard its impossible so something must changed. Im sure someone here eho does c4 that can confirm or deny the visbility of solo tengu no links no second account etcetc.
HoruSeth Republic University Minmatar Republic 987	Posted - 2015.07.28 15:03:35 - [16] - Quote can you link the video? Because often those people don't tell you about links or wormhole effects ;) I doubt you can do nowadays C4 in a T2 Tengu with acceptable performance. With me is not good cherry eating, but you can steal horses with me.
Gonnviear Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.07.28 15:11:27 - [17] - Quote C4 WH Ratting - Cheap Tengu: https://youtu.be/GPqvEwpPo-w
MooMooDachshundCow Incertae Sedis 262	Posted - 2015.07.28 15:13:33 - [18] - Quote Gonnviear wrote: Im sure someone here eho does c4 that can confirm or deny the visbility of solo tengu no links no second account etcetc. Confirmed. Solo tengus without links or second accounts are full visible, assuming of course they're not cloaked. Yeah, well, it's just like my-á*opinion*, man.
Paul Vashar Periphery Bound New Signature 53	Posted - 2015.07.28 15:27:42 - [19] - Quote Since RR got fixed, and having flown 100MN AB Tengus in C4s for far too long prior to the RR patch, don't waste your time doing it with just 1 tengu. You'll need more than the 5-600ish dps you'll get from Heavy Missiles to break a lot of them. Marauders should still do fine, and Rattlers are still working (unless you suck/poor). I'd suggest doing C3s if you want to do solo, 1 character only, unless it's a Marauder.
Gonnviear Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.07.28 15:34:40 - [20] - Quote Rattlesnake will do?

Obil Que Star Explorers Reckoning Star Alliance 343	Posted - 2015.07.28 15:35:50 - [21] - Quote Is this thing stickied here yet? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17cNu8hxqJKqkkPnhDlIuJY-IT6ps7kTNCd3BEz0Bvqs/pubhtml# This spreadsheet was posted before and details quite well the DPS and tank needed for all the anoms in w-space. Do your EFT math and figure it out.
Aladar Dangerface 13. Enigma Project 202	Posted - 2015.07.28 15:43:02 - [22] - Quote A rattlesnake will blitz C3s, your probably gona make more isk solo that way than in a c4 (unless you go for a marauder). I don't need twitter. I'm already following you.
Lloyd Roses Artificial Memories 1225	Posted - 2015.07.28 16:17:03 - [23] - Quote So in that video, the last wave has 338/0.4 - 845 - ehp remoterep... sounds about right.
MooMooDachshundCow Incertae Sedis 263	Posted - 2015.07.28 16:34:41 - [24] - Quote Gonnviear wrote: Rattlesnake will do? Here comes the airplane! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4XXvGsnrok Wow, and all I had to do was google "C4 solo rattlesnake". /s Yeah, well, it's just like my-á*opinion*, man.
Tsukino Stareine Sock Robbers Inc. Low-Class 1263	Posted - 2015.07.28 17:31:16 - [25] - Quote make more isk doing c3s C4s are meant to be done in groups.
Daniela Doran Ministry of War Amarr Empire 56	Posted - 2015.07.29 04:35:15 - [26] - Quote Mixery82 wrote: Frontier Barracks takes 13-15 min in a Solo Paladin. The performance from passive tanking ships are terrible. How can this be? A passive Rattler can do 400 missile dps and 430 drone dps. Whereas a Paladin has to fit for cap stability to endure the neuting pressure so it's dps drops to 750 Tachyon dps and 90 hammerhead II dps. So how can a Paladin solo C4s and a Rattlesnake cannot when both have roughly the same dps?
Daniela Doran Ministry of War Amarr Empire 56	Posted - 2015.07.29 04:37:00 - [27] - Quote Tsukino Stareine wrote: make more isk doing c3s C4s are meant to be done in groups. I hear C3 sit spawn rates are much slower than C4s AND are a lot more....active.
Jack Miton WeebleCORP 4582	Posted - 2015.07.29 04:42:02 - [28] - Quote Do people like, not know this site exists??? http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=WormholeSpaceClass4 It has all the DPS numbers on it for each site so assuming you passed grade 3 maths and know that EFT exists, you should be able to figure it out... PS: If you're worried about the neuting, you can look that up too. http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/inventory.php?category_id=11 There is no Bob. Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
Mixery82 Friends Of Harassment EON Alliance 20	Posted - 2015.07.29 06:10:21 - [29] - Quote Daniela Doran wrote: Mixery82 wrote: Frontier Barracks takes 13-15 min in a Solo Paladin. The performance from passive tanking ships are terrible. How can this be? A passive Rattler can do 400 missile dps and 430 drone dps. Whereas a Paladin has to fit for cap stability to endure the neuting pressure so it's dps drops to 750 Tachyon dps and 90 hammerhead II dps. So how can a Paladin solo C4s and a Rattlesnake cannot when both have roughly the same dps? A well fitted C4 Pala do a way more than 750 DPS. My Pala dose on: Multi 1082 DPS 70+47 km Gamma 992 DPS 87+47 km Xray 902 DPS 104+47 km
HoruSeth Republic University Minmatar Republic 987	Posted - 2015.07.29 08:54:13 - [30] - Quote MooMooDachshundCow wrote: Gonnviear wrote: Rattlesnake will do? Here comes the airplane! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4XXvGsnrok Wow, and all I had to do was google "C4 solo rattlesnake". /s This Video was taken in a Pulsar Wormhole: http://www.staticmapper.com/index.php?system=J121006 So the Rattlesnake Pilot could fit for much more gank. In every other C4 Wormhole you need more tank, when you would need more gank to break the initial remote rep. That's the problem. Yes Rattlesnakes will still finish C4s, but unless you are in a Pulsar, it will be much slower / harder than we could see in that video. ;) With me is not good cherry eating, but you can steal horses with me.

Andrew Jester ElitistOps Pandemic Legion 1269	Posted - 2015.07.29 12:51:21 - [31] - Quote Jack Miton wrote: Do people like, not know this site exists??? http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=WormholeSpaceClass4 It has all the DPS numbers on it for each site so assuming you passed grade 3 maths and know that EFT exists, you should be able to figure it out... PS: If you're worried about the neuting, you can look that up too. http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/inventory.php?category_id=11 No I want it spoonfed to me. Thinking on my own is HARD If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
Daniela Doran Ministry of War Amarr Empire 56	Posted - 2015.07.29 13:16:52 - [32] - Quote Mixery82 wrote: Daniela Doran wrote: Mixery82 wrote: Frontier Barracks takes 13-15 min in a Solo Paladin. The performance from passive tanking ships are terrible. How can this be? A passive Rattler can do 400 missile dps and 430 drone dps. Whereas a Paladin has to fit for cap stability to endure the neuting pressure so it's dps drops to 750 Tachyon dps and 90 hammerhead II dps. So how can a Paladin solo C4s and a Rattlesnake cannot when both have roughly the same dps? A well fitted C4 Pala do a way more than 750 DPS. My Pala dose on: Multi 1082 DPS 70+47 km Gamma 992 DPS 87+47 km Xray 902 DPS 104+47 km Umm, can you send me your fit in game via mail please?
HoruSeth Republic University Minmatar Republic 987	Posted - 2015.07.29 14:03:23 - [33] - Quote Daniela Doran wrote: Mixery82 wrote: Daniela Doran wrote: Mixery82 wrote: Frontier Barracks takes 13-15 min in a Solo Paladin. The performance from passive tanking ships are terrible. How can this be? A passive Rattler can do 400 missile dps and 430 drone dps. Whereas a Paladin has to fit for cap stability to endure the neuting pressure so it's dps drops to 750 Tachyon dps and 90 hammerhead II dps. So how can a Paladin solo C4s and a Rattlesnake cannot when both have roughly the same dps? A well fitted C4 Pala do a way more than 750 DPS. My Pala dose on: Multi 1082 DPS 70+47 km Gamma 992 DPS 87+47 km Xray 902 DPS 104+47 km Umm, can you send me your fit in game via mail please? Tachyon Beams Faction Heat Sinks Locus II Rig +5-6% implants Where is the problem? With me is not good cherry eating, but you can steal horses with me.
Andrew Jester ElitistOps Pandemic Legion 1271	Posted - 2015.07.29 14:09:32 - [34] - Quote HoruSeth wrote: Daniela Doran wrote: Mixery82 wrote: Daniela Doran wrote: Mixery82 wrote: Frontier Barracks takes 13-15 min in a Solo Paladin. The performance from passive tanking ships are terrible. How can this be? A passive Rattler can do 400 missile dps and 430 drone dps. Whereas a Paladin has to fit for cap stability to endure the neuting pressure so it's dps drops to 750 Tachyon dps and 90 hammerhead II dps. So how can a Paladin solo C4s and a Rattlesnake cannot when both have roughly the same dps? A well fitted C4 Pala do a way more than 750 DPS. My Pala dose on: Multi 1082 DPS 70+47 km Gamma 992 DPS 87+47 km Xray 902 DPS 104+47 km Umm, can you send me your fit in game via mail please? Tachyon Beams Faction Heat Sinks Locus II Rig +5-6% implants Where is the problem? the problem is that he doesn't want to think obvi If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
Mixery82 Friends Of Harassment EON Alliance 20	Posted - 2015.07.29 15:50:47 - [35] - Quote Andrew Jester wrote: the problem is that he doesn't want to think obvi [Paladin, WH C4] Corpus A-Type Large Armor Repairer Dark Blood Heat Sink Dark Blood Heat Sink Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Xray L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Xray L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Xray L Tachyon Beam Laser II, Imperial Navy Xray L Bastion Module I Dark Blood Large EMP Smartbomb Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I Dark Blood Heavy Nosferatu Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Large Energy Burst Aerator II Imps: Inherent Implants 'Noble' Repair Systems RS-603 Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Controlled Bursts CB-703 Inherent Implants 'Squire' Capacitor Management EM-803 Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Gunnery RF-903 Inherent Implants 'Lancer' Large Energy Turret LE-1003 The Fitting is no big secret but it is right without thinking the best fit will not save your live.
Jack Miton WeebleCORP 4582	Posted - 2015.07.29 22:30:23 - [36] - Quote Why in the seven hells are you putting tachs on a paladin?! There is no Bob. Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
Iyokus Patrouette Sudden Buggery Prolapse. 582	Posted - 2015.07.29 23:00:55 - [37] - Quote Jack Miton wrote: Why in the seven hells are you putting tachs on a paladin?! So he can play Tic Tach Toe. . . . i'll show myself out. ---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----
Andrew Jester ElitistOps Pandemic Legion 1277	Posted - 2015.07.29 23:19:46 - [38] - Quote Iyokus Patrouette wrote: Jack Miton wrote: Why in the seven hells are you putting tachs on a paladin?! So he can play Tic Tach Toe. . . . i'll show myself out. can't even If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
Daerrol Krieger Industries Inc. Phoebe Freeport Republic 209	Posted - 2015.07.29 23:29:04 - [39] - Quote Paladins can solo C5s when blingy. Shoudl easily do C4 with T2 fit. No tachyons... just no.
MooMooDachshundCow Incertae Sedis 264	Posted - 2015.07.29 23:42:21 - [40] - Quote Daerrol wrote: Paladins can solo C6s when blingy. Should easily do C4 with T2 fit. No tachyons... just no. I fixed it for you. Also, I dunno if you've ever actually ran a C4 site, but they spawn REALLY far out sometimes. If you want good isk/hr you'd be well served to use something that can hit at 120km. Scorch is great, but I'm gonna defer to people who actually have run loads of these as for which fitting is better. Also, just because you CAN T2 fit, doesn't mean that you SHOULD. Isk/hr is relevant like no other in this context. Yeah, well, it's just like my-á*opinion*, man.

Jack Miton WeebleCORP 4583	Posted - 2015.07.30 00:07:51 - [41] - Quote Iyokus Patrouette wrote: Jack Miton wrote: Why in the seven hells are you putting tachs on a paladin?! So he can play Tic Tach Toe. . . . i'll show myself out. 10/10 A+ There is no Bob. Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
Jack Miton WeebleCORP 4583	Posted - 2015.07.30 00:12:01 - [42] - Quote MooMooDachshundCow wrote: If you want good isk/hr you'd be well served to use something that can hit at 120km. Scorch is great, but I'm gonna defer to people who actually have run loads of these as for which fitting is better. they close pretty damn fast and scorch does the same damage out to 100km. in close a pulse paladin does ~1250dps There is no Bob. Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
Andrew Jester ElitistOps Pandemic Legion 1278	Posted - 2015.07.30 00:46:40 - [43] - Quote Just MJD If you warp in at 0 iirc most things are within scorch range, and the few that aren't, you can just MJD out there to get them If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy
Jack Miton WeebleCORP 4584	Posted - 2015.07.30 00:59:33 - [44] - Quote ^that too There is no Bob. Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
Mixery82 Friends Of Harassment EON Alliance 22	Posted - 2015.07.30 06:18:59 - [45] - Quote Why using Tachs in C4s? Because most of the Sleepers in C4s stay at long range and you have more DPS with Tachs at all ranges over 40 km! If tested a lot of fittings with Pulse, Tachs, MJD, Web, Painter and also the other 3 Marauders. The result of all that was if you want max ISK/h in a C4s do Frontier Barracks and do it in a Tach fitted Paladin. By the way my setup for C5 works with Pulse Lasers.
Daniela Doran Ministry of War Amarr Empire 61	Posted - 2015.07.30 09:03:51 - [46] - Quote Mixery82 wrote: Why using Tachs in C4s? Because most of the Sleepers in C4s stay at long range and you have more DPS with Tachs at all ranges over 40 km! If tested a lot of fittings with Pulse, Tachs, MJD, Web, Painter and also the other 3 Marauders. The result of all that was if you want max ISK/h in a C4s do Frontier Barracks and do it in a Tach fitted Paladin. By the way my setup for C5 works with Pulse Lasers. Your fit doesn't have MJD. Do you carry the MJD in cargo hold with mobile depot? And is Frontier Barracks the only one you can do with a Tach Paladin? What about the other Anomalies?
Daniela Doran Ministry of War Amarr Empire 61	Posted - 2015.07.30 09:12:55 - [47] - Quote HoruSeth wrote: Daniela Doran wrote: Mixery82 wrote: Daniela Doran wrote: Mixery82 wrote: Frontier Barracks takes 13-15 min in a Solo Paladin. The performance from passive tanking ships are terrible. How can this be? A passive Rattler can do 400 missile dps and 430 drone dps. Whereas a Paladin has to fit for cap stability to endure the neuting pressure so it's dps drops to 750 Tachyon dps and 90 hammerhead II dps. So how can a Paladin solo C4s and a Rattlesnake cannot when both have roughly the same dps? A well fitted C4 Pala do a way more than 750 DPS. My Pala dose on: Multi 1082 DPS 70+47 km Gamma 992 DPS 87+47 km Xray 902 DPS 104+47 km Umm, can you send me your fit in game via mail please? Tachyon Beams Faction Heat Sinks Locus II Rig +5-6% implants Where is the problem? The Problems is that I've seen way to many Paladins on KBs fitted like these. When I bring my Paladin to do C4s, I want maximum tank and cap recharge cause gankers love those neuts.
Daniela Doran Ministry of War Amarr Empire 61	Posted - 2015.07.30 09:17:17 - [48] - Quote Mixery82 wrote: Why using Tachs in C4s? Because most of the Sleepers in C4s stay at long range and you have more DPS with Tachs at all ranges over 40 km! If tested a lot of fittings with Pulse, Tachs, MJD, Web, Painter and also the other 3 Marauders. The result of all that was if you want max ISK/h in a C4s do Frontier Barracks and do it in a Tach fitted Paladin. By the way my setup for C5 works with Pulse Lasers. I was thinking to dual box 2 Pulse Paladins for C5s, but only after I've gotten good enough to solo C4s with just one. I'll talk to you in game Mixery82 about fittings, kay.
Forum Posts Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2015.07.30 11:49:36 - [49] - Quote I easily run most c4s in a no effect WH in an active rattle. Much better DPS, passive is aids. I refit for cap stability or dps/paint/omni as needed. C3 sites are arguably more isk/hr, but I think it's a toss up.
Jack Miton WeebleCORP 4590	Posted - 2015.07.30 12:42:36 - [50] - Quote Mixery82 wrote: you have more DPS with Tachs at all ranges over 40 km! This is just flat out incorrect. There is no Bob. Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout

HoruSeth Republic University Minmatar Republic 987	Posted - 2015.07.30 14:11:37 - [51] - Quote attention: weekly Tach vs Pulse discussion incoming. /me grabs some popcorn. With me is not good cherry eating, but you can steal horses with me.
Daniela Doran Ministry of War Amarr Empire 61	Posted - 2015.07.31 02:03:43 - [52] - Quote Jack Miton wrote: Mixery82 wrote: you have more DPS with Tachs at all ranges over 40 km! This is just flat out incorrect. You're saying Pulse is actually better then Tachs in C4s? What proof do you have of this? And how about you post a fit?
Jack Miton WeebleCORP 4592	Posted - 2015.07.31 03:20:09 - [53] - Quote Daniela Doran wrote: Jack Miton wrote: Mixery82 wrote: you have more DPS with Tachs at all ranges over 40 km! This is just flat out incorrect. You're saying Pulse is actually better then Tachs in C4s? What proof do you have of this? And how about you post a fit? i mean, if it's too hard to replace the tachs with pulses in whatever fitting software you have, not really sure if i can help you. There is no Bob. Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout
Mixery82 Friends Of Harassment EON Alliance 22	Posted - 2015.07.31 05:57:24 - [54] - Quote I dont want a Pulse Tach diskussion because I know for me the Tachs work better in C4s. By the way I use the same Rig layout also for C5s. But to be honest the times when I did the sites solo are long gone and with 2 Palas you can fit much more gank than solo.
Daniela Doran Ministry of War Amarr Empire 62	Posted - 2015.07.31 06:34:13 - [55] - Quote Jack Miton wrote: Daniela Doran wrote: Jack Miton wrote: Mixery82 wrote: you have more DPS with Tachs at all ranges over 40 km! This is just flat out incorrect. You're saying Pulse is actually better then Tachs in C4s? What proof do you have of this? And how about you post a fit? I mean, if it's too hard to replace the tachs with pulses in whatever fitting software you have, not really sure if i can help you. Look, sure, tachs do more damage to stationary targets at 100km. unfortunately, sleepers are not stationary and dont stay at 100km The posted fit is also using a T2 damage rig which means the mid slots are not free for better mods than cap rechargers, meaning it cant fit a MJD and hits cruisers astonishingly badly (about half the applied DPS of pulses on up close cruisers). I don't believe it's acceptable to not be able to have 3 TCs and a target painter in the mids of a paladin for this kind of thing. not T2 CCC rigging it also means you'll need a new one if you ever want to run C5s. Well I do kinda see your point. I would definitely prefer to use T2 CCC rigs than another damage mod. When I get SiSi up and running, I'll just test both Pulse & Tachs out to see for myself which is more efficient.
GizzyBoy Aperture Harmonics K162 167	Posted - 2015.07.31 10:42:22 - [56] - Quote Jack Miton wrote: Mixery82 wrote: you have more DPS with Tachs at all ranges over 40 km! This is just flat out incorrect. Jacks the most pro carebare I ever met, you should listen to him really. the man Knows how to bear..
The Inquisitor El Satanico Pandemonium Dominatus Atrum Mortis 0	Posted - 2015.08.18 12:33:54 - [57] - Quote What about Golems? Also i've always heard ye always get nailed with a Maradaur so ye should use passive tengu or Rattlesnake? So how ye guys avoid the gank part? I'm not a vet WHoler but i'd imagine ye constantly watch d-scan, put eyes on exit wormhole? maybe only use sites with 1 exit?(1 from your own wormhole the other to the static in the same system). Any carebear who can tip how you avoid being ganked constantly(cause i know you never be TOO safe).?
Viggo Konstanin Sudden Buggery Prolapse. 45	Posted - 2015.08.18 14:53:09 - [58] - Quote The Inquisitor wrote: Any carebear who can tip how you avoid being ganked constantly(cause i know you never be TOO safe).? Tell your CEO you are in a 2B shltfit BS / Marauder and you are ratting. CEO immediately logs all his alts and runs overwatch so you don't get ganked, and everyone gets to see how his corp is populated by rent boys and scrubs. Rake in the isk.
ChromeStriker Out of Focus Odin's Call 920	Posted - 2015.08.19 07:36:58 - [59] - Quote The Inquisitor wrote: What about Golems? Also i've always heard ye always get nailed with a Maradaur so ye should use passive tengu or Rattlesnake? So how ye guys avoid the gank part? I'm not a vet WHoler but i'd imagine ye constantly watch d-scan, put eyes on exit wormhole? maybe only use sites with 1 exit?(1 from your own wormhole the other to the static in the same system). Any carebear who can tip how you avoid being ganked constantly(cause i know you never be TOO safe).? Safest is to close all your exits and not activate your statics... then watch for new sigs like a hawk... Cant say ive ever done C4's but if a nag can position to hit sleepers im sure a paladin can with Tach's... No Worries
Jack Miton WeebleCORP 4618	Posted - 2015.08.19 07:42:33 - [60] - Quote ChromeStriker wrote: Cant say ive ever done C4's but if a nag can position to hit sleepers im sure a paladin can with Tach's... If you're talking about warping in at the spawn point, C4s don't work like that. There is no Bob. Stuck In Here With Me: http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe: http://feeds.feedburner.com/CloakyScout

ChromeStriker Out of Focus Odin's Call 920	Posted - 2015.08.19 07:45:44 - [61] - Quote Jack Miton wrote: ChromeStriker wrote: Cant say ive ever done C4's but if a nag can position to hit sleepers im sure a paladin can with Tach's... If you're talking about warping in at the spawn point, C4s don't work like that. You poor things... Why would anyone want to run C4's? ... Get yourself into a C3 if you want to run solo. Or join a C5 corp. No Worries
Daniela Doran Ministry of War Amarr Empire 84	Posted - 2015.08.19 12:49:03 - [62] - Quote ChromeStriker wrote: Jack Miton wrote: ChromeStriker wrote: Cant say ive ever done C4's but if a nag can position to hit sleepers im sure a paladin can with Tach's... If you're talking about warping in at the spawn point, C4s don't work like that. You poor things... Why would anyone want to run C4's? ... Get yourself into a C3 if you want to run solo. Or join a C5 corp. So C4s are not recommended over C3s eh?? Me thinks CCP needs to readjust them a tad.
HoruSeth Republic University Minmatar Republic 989	Posted - 2015.08.19 14:54:30 - [63] - Quote Daniela Doran wrote: So C4s are not recommended over C3s eh?? Me thinks CCP needs to readjust them a tad. No. Advantage of C4s over C3s is their second static! Everything is fine as it is currently (as fine as we can expect it to be from CCP at least). With me is not good cherry eating, but you can steal horses with me.


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