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Plim Gallente Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.12.04 00:16:00 - [61] Originally by: Icomeinpeace Stuff. What a prink. ----------------- Originally by: BoB forum PR Toxic sludge is good for you.
Paryss Stilton	Posted - 2006.12.04 00:22:00 - [62] Originally by: Hast Originally by: Darkstar BP Well Hast, When is it your turn to lead the Sunday night Forum Fight? You seem to really want to sum up things that have been summed up. Well, Since the forums offer slightly less laggy conditions then AZN on a sunday evening, who knows? As for summing it up, unless you guys shape up the end summary is closer then you think actually. Would you care to put your isk where your big,fat, Amarrian mouth is and tell us when this end will be?
laotse Confederation of Red Moon Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.04 00:27:00 - [63] he koop wat niewe klompen m8 :) 80.126.192.128:8888/tfd/uploads/1121735338/gallery_11_8_1124480365.jpg Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
aeti Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.04 00:43:00 - [64] Originally by: Jirai Grepher speak with weapons not words... I flew with CYVOK in CLS waaaay back in the xetic days. i know for a fact he is a good leader. but he is not a good fighter. the only people that i saw were good fighters back then arent even in anymore..except for canine and i think coaster. whatever did happen to people like eldar curunirr? anybody know?
Frankinator Finite Horizon The Red Skull	Posted - 2006.12.04 00:46:00 - [65] Originally by: laotse he koop wat niewe klompen m8 :) ff dimmen.
Carth Jared Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.04 00:49:00 - [66] Originally by: aeti whatever did happen to people like eldar curunirr? anybody know? Was thinking the same thing :\|
Rift Scorn Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.04 01:30:00 - [67] Originally by: Darkstar BP First: learn to count days....war has been going on for a while you know. Maybe you've been too busy on the forums lately. Second: Oh noes, ASCN showing up in something else then what would boost your BS-statistic driven killboard. The inhumanity. ASCN must be desperate. First: i can understand your bitterness at loosing over 3 ships in one day, but you can't deny that between Friday, and this moment you've been reduced to mainly frigate and Cruiser sizes. No? You personally went from Scorpion, to Blackbird, to Merlin. Yeah, busy on the forums that must be it, yada, yada, yawn try something original. Second: How exactley are you going to stop us from trampling all over your prize winning lawn, with a joyful glee, in frigates and cruisers. If you think the BS is all about our statistics you are sadly mistaken, how wasted do you think you're going to get in almost 70% support gangs going up against BS? Your choice, to us a kill is a kill, be it merlin or Rokh. Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03
HatePeace LoveWar Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.04 01:37:00 - [68] Your nothing but a goddamn forum ***** thol.
Lunas Feelgood Euphoria Released	Posted - 2006.12.04 01:37:00 - [69] Actually ASCN are doing the exact right thing.. Large, Fast moving frigs/vaga fleets with fighter support is a good idea.. ASCN ignore what BOB say that tactic will work, keep doing it And its cost effective also
Darkstar BP Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.04 01:39:00 - [70] Originally by: Rift Scorn First: i can understand your bitterness at loosing over 3 ships in one day, but you can't deny that between Friday, and this moment you've been reduced to mainly frigate and Cruiser sizes. No? No, raised 650 mio in GTC sales today. Why would I be bitter? Plenty of Battleships available in allied markets too. You draw the wrong conclusions, again....

Righteous Fury Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.12.04 01:49:00 - [71] Originally by: Darkstar BP No, raised 650 mio in GTC sales today. hahaha, oh dear.
Sochin Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.04 01:51:00 - [72] If you guys had any idea how many times we've heard "We're flying frigfleets because we've decided not to play by BoB's rules, not because we're afraid to undock in battleships!" Nemo me impune lacessit
Xrak Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.04 01:54:00 - [73] Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Actually ASCN are doing the exact right thing.. Large, Fast moving frigs/vaga fleets with fighter support is a good idea.. ASCN ignore what BOB say that tactic will work, keep doing it And its cost effective also Correction, it could be a good tactic if they actually had some decent FC's who knew what they were doing. Goonfleet tried to use this tactic against us, and they failed miserably. Originally by: Darkstar BP Originally by: Rift Scorn First: i can understand your bitterness at loosing over 3 ships in one day, but you can't deny that between Friday, and this moment you've been reduced to mainly frigate and Cruiser sizes. No? No, raised 650 mio in GTC sales today. Why would I be bitter? Plenty of Battleships available in allied markets too. You draw the wrong conclusions, again.... Rofl, the only thing I like more then blowing up someones ship that they just bought from empire, is blowing up someones ships they just brought up from empire after effectivly buying it with their RL money. Sad.
Jap theBlind Minmatar The Wanderers	Posted - 2006.12.04 01:56:00 - [74] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Malachon Draco Actually, the titan was just brought out to play...and a few BoB 'saw the light' Aye, gg, about time he found out where he had left it. Remind him to post his friendly kills again, it's such a shame he seems to end up killing more of you guys than us everytime he uses it but I guess when you fire it blind from a pos that's what might just happen. You can't refrain from smacktalking or belittleing, can you? Sad. On topic, BoB wants fights, ASCN wants sovereignty. It's a fight for fun (or fame) against survival. The tools are not the same... ASCN fielding inexpensive frigs/cruisers doesn't sound like a bad move, unless they are out of battleships, which seems a bit hard to swallow. The longer the war (and ASCN has already done better against BoB than anybody ever), the better the chances for ASCN to win that war. ASCN will not defeat BoB but they don't need to. BoB has to eradicate ASCN or lose face. Oddly enough, CCP has more to lose than BoB. If ASCN holds it's ground, it's the whole POS/Sovereignty concept that will show it's flaws (as if needed...). Station ping-pong was way more fun and we didn't need dreads, titans or +10 swords back then. ASCN being wiped of the map would be nice, but BoB 'winning EVE' would be unbearable on the forums for a long time
Coasterbrian Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.04 01:56:00 - [75] Originally by: Jirai Grepher This makes me wish i never sold Pel Mel Give em hell Thol. (yeah i had to remake my char lol Etti was fubared) But I thought you loved me. ---------- I say what I mean, but I don't always mean what I say.
Darkstar BP Caldari eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.04 01:58:00 - [76] Originally by: Xrak blowing up someones ship that they just brought up from empire. Who said anything about empire? ASCN markets are fully functional.
Static Ga'lraith Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.04 01:58:00 - [77] Originally by: Plim What a prink. "It's not hip hop, it's electro" ----------------
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.04 02:09:00 - [78] Originally by: Jap theBlind (and ASCN has already done better against BoB than anybody ever) I wonder what gave you that idea tbh ? So far, ASCN have been terribly unimpressive to me personally. The only thing they've done better then other recent enemies of ours is giving away space piece by piece, resulting in a longer war then average. However, as far as actually resisting us goes, they've just about done worse then any other i've fought so far tbh. Ah well, we'll see what happens the next two or three days. After that thing's turn interesting one way or another, no matter if they take risks now, by that time there won't be any choice left. Old blog
Danks Caldari Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.04 02:16:00 - [79] Originally by: Darkstar BP Originally by: Rift Scorn First: i can understand your bitterness at loosing over 3 ships in one day, but you can't deny that between Friday, and this moment you've been reduced to mainly frigate and Cruiser sizes. No? No, raised 650 mio in GTC sales today. Why would I be bitter? Plenty of Battleships available in allied markets too. You draw the wrong conclusions, again.... You're replacing ships with R/L money
firefreeze	Posted - 2006.12.04 02:25:00 - [80] Edited by: firefreeze on 04/12/2006 02:25:30 Meh. NVM

Feterous Jolin Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.12.04 02:27:00 - [81] I be honest, I have nothing but respect for the combat forces of the ASCN alliance. I hope they continue to resist as best they can, for as long as they can. While it may not be a winning battle (and I suppose it could be...) you win respect in the eyes of many around eve. To the ASCN military leaders. I shake my head. What are you guys doing, this is shameful. The assets are there. You would not have to mine a single bit of ore for months and still give your troops the ships and gear they need to fight. Yet, your pilots have since the begining of the war fought in frigates and cruisers against superior skilled and experianced combat forces...ASCN are not Goonies last I checked... Also, numbers alone you should be out matching BoB at every engagment. Bring twice as many BS and send thier fleet packing every time, losses be damned as you can easily replace them. Why do you not continue to push the front line. Why are BoB in the home system of AZN? Finally, the Titan...CYVOK, what are you thinking??? You have the single, most useful military tool in the game. Your alliance is dying...Why, do you hide it? Who cares if its dies, and chances are even BoB won't even get the chance to kill that thing...BUT, still, CYVOK's lack of presence, on the battle field is shameful. I was once proud to wear the tag of EDF, and fly under the banner of ASCN. I no longer think of your alliance as anything great and worthy of keeping space. The members, and fighters are amazing...so why is the leadership failing them??? Think about it, maybe you can still salvage your alliance from this.
Wrok Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.04 02:30:00 - [82] THOL WILL CLOG YOU!
Gungankllr Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.04 02:42:00 - [83] I thought about resp0nding to this post, but I'm way yoo drunk, Hidden in this signature is a secret message. I like pie.
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.12.04 03:03:00 - [84] I simply just cannot believe that ASCN are as inept as BoB paint them to be. I've always thought that ASCN were underachievers, for the amount of pilots they have. Clearly they are overachievers as an alliance because of all the things they've done in Eve. But as far as the things they have done relative to the number of pilots they have, I've always felt something was lacking. When I look at ASCN now they have 4182 pilots (something makes me think they had over 5K not so long ago, was that right?). Anyway, they have roughly 10 times the pilots that we have working in RULE. RULE is not a noteworthly alliance, at present, perhaps in the future, we certainly are trying hard, we're also a young alliance, we haven't been around for a very long time at all. But with 10 times the pilots we would have already been able to deploy half a dozen outposts. And we would be able to deploy half a dozen outposts in 6 months time. I don't know the size of ASCNs capital fleet, but it should have dreadnoughts in the hundreds. With that kind of firepower, and that many members, why can't they simply take 400 pilots into a system, block it off completely, cyno in 40 dreadnoughts and paste every single POS in there quickly? Sure the difficult part is coming back when the POSs drop out of reinforced, but why not simply nuke 3 systems of POS, making it impossible for BoB to defend all 3 systems, take a fleet of 500, secure the system and obliterate the POSs? As for lack of battleships (if indeed that is the case) why aren't there stockpiles of battleships in their outposts? They don't cost a great deal of money really. Insured you lose almost nothing with them. Surely someone of ASCNs industrial might must be able to produce battleships, everybody knows how well seeded the markets are (or at least were) in Feythabolis. The only thing I can think of is diseconomies of scale. When there's 5 people working together, for example, it's easy to divide the work, make sure it's not duplicated, and you can tell if someone isn't pulling their weight. It gets more difficult with 50, with 500 and it's got to be a real task with 5000. Perhaps with so many people in the alliance individual members don't feel that they can make a real noticable contribution, so there's less inclination to put the extra effort in? When an alliance gets the size of ASCN I suppose it's inevitable that they attract what people call 'carebears'. And by that I don't mean industrialists. I mean people who are only interested in accumulating wealth by ratting/plexing/mining, and who have no intention of contributing. I guess these people don't make it too far in Eve, perhaps get bored and stop logging in when their wallets are full and there's nothing left for them to do. Of course there's the BoB effect. Everybody knows that BoB posts are meticulously researched and worded to create the right effect. I guess this can perhaps make ASCN people feel they are losing more than they actually are, and it could also make the publics opinion of the situaton slanted towards BoB. And then there's the nodes. From fighting in XZH I'm well aware that lag favours POS defenders - which hurts BoB. On the other hand though, it also hurts people massing up significant amounts of forces, which is one thing ASCN should be able to do. They should be able to mass up to 1,000 troops from ASCN alone. Anyway, I'm not attempting to have a go at ASCN or BoB, I'm just sort of thinking out loud on why things are going the way they are.
Phrixus Zephyr Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.12.04 03:05:00 - [85] Originally by: Darkstar BP Originally by: Xrak blowing up someones ship that they just brought up from empire. Who said anything about empire? ASCN markets are fully functional. Lol. Selling alot of frigs are we? Originally by: Victor Ramirez using it to get the layout of a new system and a quick belt-check is about as practical as using Google Earth to see if your car is still in front of your house.
DTee Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.04 03:14:00 - [86] Edited by: DTee on 04/12/2006 03:16:39 We entered in to AZN with relative ease. We've had no problems dealing with any ASCN tactics so far and I doubt we ever will. ASCN, When Dreadnoughts roll in by the dozens, When pos's start dropping, When neither CYVOK nor your t1 frig blob will be your saviour. What will you do? Goons do what ASCN are doing best. We beat Goons and ASCN will be defeated in the same way. It is easy to lag the enemy fleet out with your Fighter and frig blob but BoB are here ASCN and its time to take the gloves off and fight like real men. As most people know frigs do not win wars, The pos is still standing in your home system after 3 days, Tick Tock.Its game over boys,The sheriffs in town. Host of The DT show - Thursdays 16:00 - 18:00 . Listen to BoB Radio now!
Kathar Narka Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.04 03:25:00 - [87] Originally by: Darkstar BP Who said anything about empire? ASCN markets are fully functional. Truly! In fact I hit the little button in my neocom while in AZN today, and whatdya know...clap she popped right up! Rest assured, everything is in order. -k
Keldon Pax Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.04 03:53:00 - [88] NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!! keldon Pax
Danari Amarr Syncore Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.04 04:42:00 - [89] You guys are up to about 5 parts dance 1 part pvp, still 4 parts forums. 18 hours out of 24 lately you're reduced to drivebys ala -A- because you don't have the numbers to control anything that you can't hide in. That's my take on the last 2 days I've been in azn. All I've seen after about 36 hours of non-stop pvp is your asses running, running, and running again. I'm going out for some lunch, you guys aren't going to come out of that pos until Shrike wakes up anyway.
Kathar Narka Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.04 05:06:00 - [90] Edited by: Kathar Narka on 04/12/2006 05:07:00 Originally by: Danari You guys are up to about 5 parts dance 1 part pvp, still 4 parts forums. 18 hours out of 24 lately you're reduced to drivebys ala -A- because you don't have the numbers to control anything that you can't hide in. That's my take on the last 2 days I've been in azn. All I've seen after about 36 hours of non-stop pvp is your asses running, running, and running again. I'm going out for some lunch, you guys aren't going to come out of that pos until Shrike wakes up anyway. Yeah, you're probably right. Enjoy lunch.



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