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Winning
Midnight's Errand
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Posted - 2015.08.02 16:35:05 -
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Stat implants are too expensive 5x as much as the ships I use and are keeping me from engaging in the activities in eve I like.
And frankly, I don't understand why players don't get to produce them or why I can't insure them.
Also I'd like to be able to rig my ship's salvage to explode with a rig slot to prevent people from making money or recovering my modules. Bonus points if it would take out their ship or cripple them for an extended period of time.
You wonder why everyone is just mining in high sec? Implants cost too much.
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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
New Order Logistics
CODE.
257
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Posted - 2015.08.02 16:48:55 -
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Use a jump clone. They are virtually free now. |
Winning
Midnight's Errand
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Posted - 2015.08.02 16:54:39 -
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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri wrote:Use a jump clone. They are virtually free now.
Yeah but that doesn't give me the opportunity to retaliate.
Combat lasts about 10 seconds in a T2 Covert Ops frig. You get to decloak to hack (stupid mechanic of all the thing you should be able to do cloaked...) they decloak 'get first attack' fire at you with an Astero (or multiple Asteros) and you explode.
They sometimes get the warp scram on your pod and you die.
It'd be nice to know that I could fit an 'incinerator' rig to my ship that would insure they got no profit from killing me and maybe take a same size ship out. I don't think it is unreasonable to booby trap ships, disguise them as other ships on scanners, etc.
You'd think a guy from code would appreciate the thought and endorse it.
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Lord LazyGhost
Sons Against Humanity
498
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Posted - 2015.08.02 16:59:51 -
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lol if you loosing ur podd in low sec to ships with out smart bommbs ur doing it wrong |
Gorthanator
SQUIDS.
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Posted - 2015.08.02 17:00:06 -
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What do implants allow you to do in a T2 covert ops frig that you could not otherwise do? |
Orlacc
913
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Posted - 2015.08.02 17:04:05 -
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Gorthanator wrote:What do implants allow you to do in a T2 covert ops frig that you could not otherwise do?
Hack. Scan better. Other stuff.
However as someone who has explored for years, there are ways to not get popped. Maybe figure that out before whining.
"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
377
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Posted - 2015.08.02 17:05:48 -
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https://zkillboard.com/kill/48235738/
Lost and identical one 2days ago too.
Why do you need all 5 attribute implants? You really train int/mem and per/will and chras/will or whatever all same time?
If you just buy cheap implants and train according to remap you would train faster than your hap-hazard 100mill all attribute pods you realise correct?
Just buy +2s for 2 attributes and train those skills.
Idiot |
Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
377
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Posted - 2015.08.02 17:06:35 -
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Lord LazyGhost wrote:lol if you loosing ur podd in low sec to ships with out smart bommbs ur doing it wrong
Its in a wormhole idiot.
Learn to typee a name in zkill ignorant |
ISD Buldath
ISD STAR
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Posted - 2015.08.02 18:21:28 -
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Quote: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not conductive to the community spirit that CCP promotes. As such, this kind of behavior will not be tolerated.
Please keep things Civil. |
admiral root
Red Galaxy
2904
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Posted - 2015.08.02 18:33:27 -
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Winning wrote:Implants cost too much.
Players set the market price. Working as intended.
No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff
CODE. forum - everyone's welcome (no shiptoasters)
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Trevor Dalech
We pooped on your lawn
Resonance.
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Posted - 2015.08.02 18:47:11 -
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Winning wrote: they decloak 'get first attack' fire at you with an Astero
I hunt explorers in a sensor boosted Astero. If you are quick you can always get away (and plenty of my targets do.) An Astero has a targeting delay of about 5 seconds after decloaking, this is plenty of time for you to warp, you just need to react faster. Even if you do get caught, an Astero does not carry bubbles, so you should always be able to get your pod out. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25438
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Posted - 2015.08.02 20:39:25 -
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Winning wrote:Stat implants are too expensive 5x as much as the ships I use and are keeping me from engaging in the activities in eve I like.
And frankly, I don't understand why players don't get to produce them or why I can't insure them.
No, you're the one who arbitrarily chooses to not engage in certain activities and you're using your choice of implants to justify this choice. There are no implants in the game that inhibit any activity. If you want to engage in some activity, do so. If you don't, then don't try to shift the blame onto something else.
Also, players are the ones who produce them, and insuring them would defeat the purpose they have in the overall economy: to remove ISK from the game. As for your other ideas, they're essentially already in the game, but without the pathetic sour graps aspect.
Quote:You wonder why everyone is just mining in high sec? Implants cost too much. It's funny how sometimes two wrongs actually do make a right. These two claims are both false, and as a result, we have a situation where plenty of people fly around with implants in all kinds of dangerous environments GÇö often sets that are far more costly than simple stat implants.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11091
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Posted - 2015.08.02 20:46:37 -
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Winning wrote: implants cost too much.
No they don't.
Outside of null it's your fault they go boom.
Stop getting podded, so you don't have to replace them.
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voetius
Quiet Days in Clichy
355
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Posted - 2015.08.02 20:48:46 -
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Winning wrote:Stat implants are too expensive 5x as much as the ships I use and are keeping me from engaging in the activities in eve I like.
And frankly, I don't understand why players don't get to produce them or why I can't insure them.
Also I'd like to be able to rig my ship's salvage to explode with a rig slot to prevent people from making money or recovering my modules. Bonus points if it would take out their ship or cripple them for an extended period of time.
You wonder why everyone is just mining in high sec? Implants cost too much.
You don't need to fit a full set of +5s. If you have a focused skill plan you can just put +5s in the primary and secondary.
As to whether implants are expensive, that is subjective. I lived in null for a year or more and always had a +4s in the primary and secondary attributes, though if I thought there was a high chance of getting podded I would hold off on a particular day. That didn't happen very often if at all. Sometimes I would ship down to a +4 in primary and +3 in secondary though. |
sambo Inkura
Original Sinners
The Bastion
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Posted - 2015.08.02 21:14:28 -
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You lost a pod of +4s? Cry me a river
The lesson here, my dear sweet friends: if you're going to fit your combat ceptor for <2s align, don't be half hearted about it! an MSE + Hardener and I'd have survived that danged Machariel.
Oh well...... |
Daerrol
Krieger Industries Inc.
Phoebe Freeport Republic
213
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Posted - 2015.08.02 21:17:02 -
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I just use +3s... it's barely noticable training time difference. My 7 day skills take 3 hours more to train. Good heavens I lost 150 hours of training a -year-
Also tis been said. You only need to use + implants in the skills you are remapped for. I'm doing Perception/Willpower all day so that's all I use. A pair of +3's is like 20m
........ also a full set of +4's is muich cheaper than many of my ships........ |
Mephiztopheleze
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2015.08.02 21:35:37 -
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That's quite the Buzzard fit you're using there. Perhaps just a smidgen of tank in future?
Or, you know, any tank.... Prop mod? Rigs? Keeping an eye on D-Scan?
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
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Borascus
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Posted - 2015.08.02 22:16:43 -
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I think the lesson here is become risk averse.
imo, it's bad science.
Kudos for fiting them but you can put scanning / hacking implants in a jump clone with 10mil +3's and be in a much better position.
Use the jump clone book that facilitates a 20hr clone jump and lose out on those +5 implants for 20hrs. |
Cancel Align NOW
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2015.08.02 22:33:35 -
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I think the lesson here is learn to manage risk. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.08.02 22:43:23 -
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Cancel Align NOW wrote:I think the lesson here is learn to manage risk.
Or
Get your pod out.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
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Posted - 2015.08.02 23:23:32 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:https://zkillboard.com/kill/48235738/Lost and identical one 2days ago too. Why do you need all 5 attribute implants? You really train int/mem and per/will and chras/will or whatever all same time? If you just buy cheap implants and train according to remap you would train faster than your hap-hazard 100mill all attribute pods you realise correct? Just buy +2s for 2 attributes and train those skills. Idiot
The basic reason is that even if someone is int/mem mapped, over the course of a year it's likely that they will train skills that use a different set of attributes. So even if someone starts with implants to match their mapping and train related skills, at some point they'll also benefit from plugging in additional implants.
It doesn't make sense to plug them all in at once, but if you don't lose a pod for a while it's easy to end up with all five attribute slots plugged in.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
380
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Posted - 2015.08.02 23:46:59 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Winning wrote: implants cost too much.
No they don't. Outside of null it's your fault they go boom. Stop getting podded, so you don't have to replace them.
While i agree.
I will say being is the yreat USA across tge ocean from ccp's servers sometimes latency is an issue and lag hsppens.
Let alone playing on laptop on wifi.
But yeah Transatlantic lag kills pods |
Remiel Pollard
Black Hydra Consortium.
CODE.
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Posted - 2015.08.03 00:04:26 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Winning wrote: implants cost too much.
No they don't. Outside of null it's your fault they go boom. Stop getting podded, so you don't have to replace them. While i agree. I will say being is the yreat USA across tge ocean from ccp's servers sometimes latency is an issue and lag hsppens. Let alone playing on laptop on wifi. But yeah Transatlantic lag kills pods
That's funny, I live in Australia and I don't seem to have that problem.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Mephiztopheleze
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2015.08.03 00:13:30 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:While i agree.
I will say being is the yreat USA across tge ocean from ccp's servers sometimes latency is an issue and lag hsppens.
Let alone playing on laptop on wifi.
But yeah Transatlantic lag kills pods
Americans whinging about lag?
Cry Me A River.
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
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Carrie-Anne Moss
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
380
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Posted - 2015.08.03 00:33:54 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Winning wrote: implants cost too much.
No they don't. Outside of null it's your fault they go boom. Stop getting podded, so you don't have to replace them. While i agree. I will say being is the yreat USA across tge ocean from ccp's servers sometimes latency is an issue and lag hsppens. Let alone playing on laptop on wifi. But yeah Transatlantic lag kills pods That's funny, I live in Australia and I don't seem to have that problem.
Obviously because the internet doesnt have to go transATLANTIC from londom to Australia buddy.
And sometimes i play naked in my bed on my latop over wifi in addition to transatlantic lag.
Dont feel like messing with ethernet cables twisting between my legs so laptop and wifi it is.
But yes if you live in london or germany and stay away from bubbles smartbombs and naked laptop wifi escapades you would never lose your pod ever |
Mephiztopheleze
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
104
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Posted - 2015.08.03 00:44:11 -
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Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Obviously because the internet doesnt have to go transATLANTIC from londom to Australia buddy.
Obviously, you didn't read the article I linked......
Too bad, you would have saved yourself some egg on the face.
Here's a traceroute from moi (in Outback Queensland) to TQ servers...... (note it passes through San Jose, Palo Alto and New York?). FYI: most internet traffic from Australia to Europe passes through the USA. The main undersea cable runs from Oz to New Zealand then up to Honolulu. There is also a cable from Darwin to Singapore.
traceroute to (EVE Tranquility Server) 87.237.38.200 (87.237.38.200), 64 hops max, 72 byte packets
1 nb604n.home (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 1.372 ms 1.001 ms 0.942 ms
2 * * *
3 bri-sot-wic-csw1-gi-1-3.tpgi.com.au (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 47.811 ms 46.629 ms 45.965 ms
4 xxx-xxx-xxx-xxx.static.tpgi.com.au (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx) 45.569 ms 46.568 ms 46.927 ms
5 syd-sot-ken-crt4-tg-13-2.tpgi.com.au (202.7.173.173) 59.527 ms 62.865 ms 79.187 ms
6 syd-sot-ken-int1-be-20.tpgi.com.au (203.219.35.67) 65.586 ms 67.832 ms 65.422 ms
7 ix-8-0-1-0.tcore2.sqn-san-jose.as6453.net (66.198.97.33) 280.641 ms 258.977 ms 307.116 ms
8 if-5-2.tcore2.pdi-palo-alto.as6453.net (64.86.21.2) 409.611 ms * 397.248 ms
9 if-2-2.tcore1.pdi-palo-alto.as6453.net (66.198.127.1) 398.570 ms 397.257 ms 394.870 ms
10 if-1-2.tcore1.nyy-new-york.as6453.net (66.198.127.6) 393.698 ms 424.939 ms 395.721 ms
11 if-3-2.tcore1.njy-newark.as6453.net (66.198.70.21) 422.609 ms 433.205 ms 392.261 ms
12 if-7-2.tcore1.l78-london.as6453.net (66.198.70.26) 400.012 ms 409.495 ms 409.510 ms
13 if-17-2.tcore1.ldn-london.as6453.net (80.231.130.130) 409.720 ms 477.787 ms 400.630 ms
14 if-14-0-0.core4.ldn-london.as6453.net (80.231.76.121) 406.490 ms 397.342 ms 420.632 ms
15 ix-12-0-0-3045.core4.ldn-london.as6453.net (195.219.67.242) 409.534 ms 409.330 ms 409.464 ms
16 srv250-f.ccp.cc (87.237.37.250) 409.785 ms 425.335 ms 399.803 ms
17 srv200-g.ccp.cc (87.237.38.200) 398.359 ms 428.087 ms 405.467 ms
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
12015
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Posted - 2015.08.03 00:58:43 -
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So let me see if I got this right. You want the now defenseless mini-game explorers to become a protected class? 
ode to the pre-mini-game explorer days, and the rarity of whines, RIP.
I'm in it for the money
Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25440
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Posted - 2015.08.03 01:03:36 -
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Mephiztopheleze wrote:Obviously, you didn't read the article I linked......
Too bad, you would have saved yourself some egg on the face.
EhmGǪ Psst!
You're responding to CAM. None of what it says is meant to make any sense.
Also, everyone knows that the telco infrastructure and market in the US is straining to maintain a fourth-world standard.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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GordonO
Caldari Provisions
147
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Posted - 2015.08.03 01:42:03 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Winning wrote: implants cost too much.
No they don't. Outside of null it's your fault they go boom. Stop getting podded, so you don't have to replace them.
Bubbles are used in WH also
... What next ??
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
12015
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Posted - 2015.08.03 01:48:05 -
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Tippia wrote:Also, everyone knows that the telco infrastructure and market in the US is straining to maintain a fourth-world standard. qft
I spent nearly 10yrs programming robotics manufacturing machines that made most of the broadband telecommunications equipment for the US and for some nations abroad. Likely if you are in the US, you're still using my street equipment installed 10, 12, 15yrs ago, and very limited technology compared to today.
Heck, all I have out here is DSL1 (and not enough for everyone), though the company that put that in finally sold off to a copper manufacturing company that mostly deals with DSL2 systems, so there may be some hope at least locally (not that I plan to live here much longer). Fiberoptics? Aint ever going to happen here, and what small portions of the US got that system, that's about it, expansion halted. And more regulation likely coming to make it even worse. Not even mentioning all the problems trying to get a con over the sea of despair to Europe.
If you noticed, in-game peaks are mostly Europe time, it's not because EVE isn't interesting for US players.
I'm in it for the money
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