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spiralJunkie
Minmatar EveTV
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Posted - 2006.12.05 01:35:00 -
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Edited by: spiralJunkie on 05/12/2006 01:35:40 All you guys are taking the comments on the show WAY too seriously. Its just a light hearted commentary to accompany a fantastic tournament.
Let's make a list of people that EVETV have "slandered".
- ASCN, with their boring and innefective turtle tank - BOB, not following up on Goonswarm and are cheating with two boring teams - MC, for one out of three combat worthy setups - IAC, most importantly Tyrrax and his match fixing and blatant cheating - Warp Core Stabbed clowns Terra Incognita and their GRIEF TACTICS - Morsus Mihi, for being fabulous roleplayers - Larping Cavil, for being an even more fantastic roleplayer - CCK for being successfully ransomed by the above - Tank CEO for living on past glories and not fitting rails on a rail boat - AAA for their love of complexes and CTRL Q - Andrew Gunn aka "junior" - spiralJunkie aka "Charlie Brown"
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The list goes on.
Anyone who thinks they have something to really complain about - seriously, we are poking fun at everyone. Its nothing personal and shouldnt be taken that way. This is supposed to be entertaining and fun - just because your alliance has a few jokes made at its expense, thats what we are here for.
The tournament results are really what speaks for your alliance.
Be aware that we're providing a free service manned mostly by volunteers from the game. No other game does this, there's simply nothing similar that exists. If you feel the need to post some negativity, hold one for a minute, and see if there's a way you can hold that diss and maybe show some love.
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Eeeeeeeeeeh, I don't think Titans are particularly Cost Effective
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Astrophobics
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Posted - 2006.12.05 01:37:00 -
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Nice post 
=== It's great being Amarr, aint it?(tm) [Insert badass sig to match ego here] |

Grez
Minmatar The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2006.12.05 01:45:00 -
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Nothing but love for you, the experts, the commentators, and the EVETV crew. Like you said, no other game does this, let alone do it with volunteers. Props to you and the guys (and girls). ---
Cache Clearer
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Admiral Pieg
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.05 01:54:00 -
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Please dont listen to the whiners. I for one enjoy the snide remarks and honest commentary. If its on your mind then say it, dont hold back because someone gets their panties in a twist.  ______________
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Weco
The Corporation The Corporation Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 02:02:00 -
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Edited by: Weco on 05/12/2006 02:16:14
Yeah dont listen to the whiners/smackers. Some alliances got ****ed cause you joked about them (which every grown person should be able to cope with though)and are now trying to snipe EVE TV at every oppurtunity on the forums.
Im still waiting for a evil joke about -TCA- though. 
Keep it up Spiral and the rest of the EVE TV crew, good work so far.
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Astrophobics
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Posted - 2006.12.05 02:06:00 -
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Heh, I remember Ifni calling Remedial an idiot or something similar last tournament, MC and ASCN, you guys have it easy. 
=== It's great being Amarr, aint it?(tm) [Insert badass sig to match ego here] |

SATAN
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.12.05 02:18:00 -
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From Burn Eden's point of view the EvE tv comentators are nothing more than clueless mental midgets, with big mouths so we really dont care what you have to say about us. There is nothing we can do to you, since you hide who you are in game, and we cant be bothered to track you down.
But your comments being light hearted is a total farce. Just yesterday one of you said "why would anyone hire these guys if they come out with setups like this" being aimed at MC. I dont see this as a joke or a witty remark, its slander and ignorant slander at best.
Take my coments as light heartedly as you want, but they are still fact.
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Michayel Lyon
The Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.05 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: Weco Im still waiting for a evil joke about -TCA- though.
/signed
I want to be verbally abused on prime time.
--- Lasiverin Dark > Is everyone here allied? Red Knight > we are allied by our zombie like ability to ***** missions |

Scarcus
Caldari Bre-X
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Posted - 2006.12.05 02:23:00 -
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Edited by: Scarcus on 05/12/2006 02:23:29 Dude...this is a game. If your reputation is worthy, you won't care what everyone else is bawling about. Take the chip off your shoulder and chill.

A frequent star in God's cosmic gag-reel. Sig removed. Inappropriate for the forums -Kaemonn |

UnknownHuman
Blood Inquisition Sani Khal'Vecna
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Posted - 2006.12.05 02:24:00 -
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I agree with Satan. A lot of the time after a match "most" have no clue whats going on and then leads to speculation then ranting on about other alliances. First off, your commentators are extremely boring so I turn it off when they speak. Theres no action like there should be example: "Show-man-ship" - To draw a crowd make your speaker more enjoyable to draw the crown.
And why shouldnt we take the comments "Seriously?" I mean thousands of people watch that and these alliances are offering a show to promote Eve. To make it better and how does the game community look if the leaders of these mega alliances just smack about them in the commentaries? Ridiculous!
Either or lets just play eve :P
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Dahak2150
HellBrothers Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.05 02:30:00 -
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Don't mind them. Most of 'em are the kind of folk who are fine with humor...until it's turned on them.
I found all the remarks humorous, even the ones about Serenus Letum, my corp's then-alliance.
I really enjoyed the broadcasts, can't wait for next week. Sadly, I'll be getting my edumacation and learning me some books on Friday.
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Ifni
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2006.12.05 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN From Burn Eden's point of view the EvE tv comentators are nothing more than clueless mental midgets, with big mouths so we really dont care what you have to say about us. There is nothing we can do to you, since you hide who you are in game, and we cant be bothered to track you down.
But your comments being light hearted is a total farce. Just yesterday one of you said "why would anyone hire these guys if they come out with setups like this" being aimed at MC. I dont see this as a joke or a witty remark, its slander and ignorant slander at best.
Take my coments as light heartedly as you want, but they are still fact.
Hide who we are? Me, Jamesw, Farjung and Andrew Gunn. Personally I spend most of my time in Syndicate with the rest of my corp, Jamesw lives in the north, Farjung is in BOB so head south. Andrew Gunn is in Maelstrom and I'm sure you can find out where he is with a location agent.
If you feel that you must give some ingame recriminations for what we say then sure, hunt us down, otherwise stop saying your opinions are "facts".
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Ray McCormack
BIG
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Posted - 2006.12.05 03:01:00 -
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I personally enjoy the commentary given by you guys on EveTV. And I'm amazed at how the politics of Eve has started affecting you. Just keep in mind that there is a vast number of people out there that are quite happy with what you're doing, they're just not as vocal about it.
Kudos for putting on a grand show, and for expressing your views on what you've seen in the way you're doing it. Which I believe is what you're there for.
| BMBE ISK Loans | the all mighty BIG industrial corp from hell with a slong the size of a walrus... |

spiralJunkie
Minmatar EveTV
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Posted - 2006.12.05 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ray McCormack Just keep in mind that there is a vast number of people out there that are quite happy with what you're doing, they're just not as vocal about it.
yup. Forums are for cmplaining, and out of the current peak of 14k viewers (including the one dude from Kazakstan) we've had about...20 _
Eeeeeeeeeeh, I don't think Titans are particularly Cost Effective
- Goonswarm |

Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.12.05 03:17:00 -
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Don't forget about Star Fraction and the special village of roleplayers .
I kid, y'all are doing alright.
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NocturnalDeath
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.05 03:32:00 -
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Insulting everyone only works if it is SMART and FUNNY.
Commentators have been neither.
Even worse is that they have went out of their way to be insulting while being incorrect and ignorant.
This just comes across as sad. Especially when you defend it.
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Rift Scorn
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.05 04:46:00 -
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I wouldn't worry about it Spiral, you guys and gals have been doing a *****ing job and a bit of 'edge' to things makes it all the more watchable imo, and i guess you can't keep 100% of people happy 100% of the time, but i know ya doing ya best to.
Don't 'tune it down' or turn it too bland plz, that would be a shame. Although there did seem to be a lot of mano-a-mano jokes floating around on Sunday 
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.12.05 04:49:00 -
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Its ok to make fun of the Team that entered. Like saying ASCN brought Turtle set up.
But to Try and screw the reputation of a whole alliance is a different matter. Wish you did spiral, so don't deny it or pretend to meant it otherwise.
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Alita Tiphares
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Posted - 2006.12.05 04:55:00 -
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alot of angry nerds and forum warriors in this thread
keep it up eve-tv, im loving it 
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.12.05 04:58:00 -
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Originally by: Alita Tiphares alot of angry nerds and forum warriors in this thread
keep it up eve-tv, im loving it 
That comments make you sound So Charismatic, Intelligently set apart from us nerds. Than again you prolly just a fat women with Sand in her v*****.
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Xrak
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.05 05:06:00 -
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Loving the eveTV commentary. Please dont even think about taking the whiners seriously.
Anyone with a smallest sense of humor can enjoy it. As you pointed out, the show without the comments would be a boring show.
Great job, keep it up 
PS, Can one of the commentator write "Ifni smells" on a piece of paper with the results on and pass it around, he wont be able to read it as he is blind, mwhahahahhaha!a
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spiralJunkie
Minmatar EveTV
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Posted - 2006.12.05 05:13:00 -
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Originally by: Roxanna Kell Its ok to make fun of the Team that entered. Like saying ASCN brought Turtle set up.
But to Try and screw the reputation of a whole alliance is a different matter. Wish you did spiral, so don't deny it or pretend to meant it otherwise.
Wish i did what?
and ruining the reputation of an alliance? We chat about what's happening, as players. If any alliance feels they can be threatened by some chubby geek on the internet talking on a live feed while dressed like a bee, then that alliance is in trouble _
Eeeeeeeeeeh, I don't think Titans are particularly Cost Effective
- Goonswarm |

Lunas Feelgood
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.12.05 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: spiralJunkie
Originally by: Roxanna Kell Its ok to make fun of the Team that entered. Like saying ASCN brought Turtle set up.
But to Try and screw the reputation of a whole alliance is a different matter. Wish you did spiral, so don't deny it or pretend to meant it otherwise.
Wish i did what?
and ruining the reputation of an alliance? We chat about what's happening, as players. If any alliance feels they can be threatened by some chubby geek on the internet talking on a live feed while dressed like a bee, then that alliance is in trouble
   
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Generatorn
Amarr The Corporation The Corporation Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 05:35:00 -
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all I can say is go spiral, ifni and the others it has been fun to watch we need humor and entertainment and that people get worked up about the commentary is even more fun so keep it up and ignore the crying whiners \o/
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Roxanna Kell
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.12.05 06:21:00 -
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Edited by: Roxanna Kell on 05/12/2006 06:21:36
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Originally by: spiralJunkie
Originally by: Roxanna Kell Its ok to make fun of the Team that entered. Like saying ASCN brought Turtle set up.
But to Try and screw the reputation of a whole alliance is a different matter. Wish you did spiral, so don't deny it or pretend to meant it otherwise.
Wish i did what?
and ruining the reputation of an alliance? We chat about what's happening, as players. If any alliance feels they can be threatened by some chubby geek on the internet talking on a live feed while dressed like a bee, then that alliance is in trouble
   
Quotes the comment against MC, nuf said. It wasn't funny. It propebly won;t affect them in Any way, because MC as far as I am concerned have a chain of work available for them due to their reputation.
but whats upsetting is that on of you made that comment in the first place.
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.05 06:28:00 -
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Okay, Spiral, I'm going to assume you want measured and well constructed responses to your post so I'm going to do that.
Quote: Anyone who thinks they have something to really complain about - seriously, we are poking fun at everyone. Its nothing personal and shouldnt be taken that way. This is supposed to be entertaining and fun - just because your alliance has a few jokes made at its expense, thats what we are here for.
Spiral, you know how I feel about EVE TV. I've spent a lot of time talking to you, Xyl, Hinik and Xod about it. I want to see it evolve beyond something that is just done for the Tournament into an actual entity that could report real news on a weekly basis. I'd like to see EVE TV become much greater than it is.
Right now, however, I'm having trouble trying to figure out exactly what you're aiming for. Neutral commentary / reporting? Just pure comedy? Something in between?
You see, I've heard you guys talk about what you want to do and where you want to go in person. It's inspiring stuff. What is not inspiring is watching the panel and hearing the commentators sometimes just go off on a random tangent about one person or alliance due to what they perceive as a mistake or boring, etc...
Even with I disagree with Ifni, he tends to present himself well and tries to back up his points with measured responses. Trev has been a great surprise and I really enjoy listening to him.
My point is that it's great to have a quick jibe here and there. I enjoy the humor as much as anyone, even when it's aimed at me and my alliance. Xod is great at this. He's not always 100% right in his observations (and I don't think it's possible for anyone to be anyway), but every time I hear him make a jab or a comment, it doesn't come across as a pure flaming napalm bomb.
Quote: The tournament results are really what speaks for your alliance.
I disagree with this statement. The Tournament is about more than just who wins. While some don't care to look beyond who won or lost, I think the matches themselves are the story. There are alliances in this tournament who might not win a single match but are worthy of note and admiration for the effort they put in and tactics they attempted.
Just because you lost should not make you an instant object for jokes and ridicule, nor should winning be an instant ticket to praise and glory. 
Originally by: spiralJunkie If you feel the need to post some negativity, hold one for a minute, and see if there's a way you can hold that diss and maybe show some love.
This is sound advice.
The exchange between GoGo and Ifni in this thread is fantastic and also sums up a log of my feelings as well.
We all appreciate the work you guys (and girl) are putting into this. You've been given a great gift and opportunity by CCP. Don't squander it for a few cheap laughs. As the 'Host' of this entire project I would think you would appreciate the entertainment factor of everyone here. I think many of your viewers would simply prefer less joking and insults and more reporting. 
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QwaarJet
Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.05 06:33:00 -
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Generally it's been ok, but you need to understand that with 14K people watching your broadcasts, what you say matters. And for the people that haven't heard of an alliance, and you guys start saying they cheat/are boring etc. Most people aregoing to assume that's what they are like.
Just by saying a few words, you guys on EVETV can make or break the reputation of an alliance.
You slagged RAZOR rotten (and they deserved it), but RAZOR are awesome fighters on tranq, and most people will hear what you guys say and assume the whole RAZOR alliance is full of Nubbins'.
So I would just say think before you say these scathing remarks, because a lot of people are listening to you.
Otherwise good job :)
"Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimeter Of Wisdom.Run!" |

Robert Dobbs
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.05 07:25:00 -
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Oh for christ's sake, grow some thicker skin people.
If you can't take a bit of criticism, you need a good slapping.
Spiral, Go for your guns mate, don't hold back. I don't want EVE TV to be censored by a bunch of whiners.
And yes, that means, take the pfss out of BoB, hell, flame me personally if you feel like it. I know it's all in good humour.
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Earthan
Gallente The Amazing Fire Eaters Breidablik
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Posted - 2006.12.05 08:01:00 -
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True, i liked very much Eve TV and i do agree that without those soemtimes on edge comments it could be boring sometimes so i think its done great.
Tough imho some comments could be abit toned down, balanced .
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Christopher Multsanti
Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.12.05 08:23:00 -
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To the Op, nice post. 
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