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spiralJunkie Minmatar EveTV	Posted - 2006.12.05 01:35:00 - [1] Edited by: spiralJunkie on 05/12/2006 01:35:40 All you guys are taking the comments on the show WAY too seriously. Its just a light hearted commentary to accompany a fantastic tournament. Let's make a list of people that EVETV have "slandered". - ASCN, with their boring and innefective turtle tank - BOB, not following up on Goonswarm and are cheating with two boring teams - MC, for one out of three combat worthy setups - IAC, most importantly Tyrrax and his match fixing and blatant cheating - Warp Core Stabbed clowns Terra Incognita and their GRIEF TACTICS - Morsus Mihi, for being fabulous roleplayers - Larping Cavil, for being an even more fantastic roleplayer - CCK for being successfully ransomed by the above - Tank CEO for living on past glories and not fitting rails on a rail boat - AAA for their love of complexes and CTRL Q - Andrew Gunn aka "junior" - spiralJunkie aka "Charlie Brown" ... The list goes on. Anyone who thinks they have something to really complain about - seriously, we are poking fun at everyone. Its nothing personal and shouldnt be taken that way. This is supposed to be entertaining and fun - just because your alliance has a few jokes made at its expense, thats what we are here for. The tournament results are really what speaks for your alliance. Be aware that we're providing a free service manned mostly by volunteers from the game. No other game does this, there's simply nothing similar that exists. If you feel the need to post some negativity, hold one for a minute, and see if there's a way you can hold that diss and maybe show some love. _ Eeeeeeeeeeh, I don't think Titans are particularly Cost Effective - Goonswarm
Kyguard Fire Mandrill Astrophobics	Posted - 2006.12.05 01:37:00 - [2] Nice post === It's great being Amarr, aint it?(tm) [Insert badass sig to match ego here]
Grez Minmatar The Raven Warriors	Posted - 2006.12.05 01:45:00 - [3] Nothing but love for you, the experts, the commentators, and the EVETV crew. Like you said, no other game does this, let alone do it with volunteers. Props to you and the guys (and girls). --- Cache Clearer Still waiting for a Wrangler-edit!
Admiral Pieg Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.05 01:54:00 - [4] Please dont listen to the whiners. I for one enjoy the snide remarks and honest commentary. If its on your mind then say it, dont hold back because someone gets their panties in a twist. ______________ Pod from above.
Weco The Corporation The Corporation Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.05 02:02:00 - [5] Edited by: Weco on 05/12/2006 02:16:14 Yeah dont listen to the whiners/smackers. Some alliances got ****ed cause you joked about them (which every grown person should be able to cope with though)and are now trying to snipe EVE TV at every oppurtunity on the forums. Im still waiting for a evil joke about -TCA- though. Keep it up Spiral and the rest of the EVE TV crew, good work so far. EDIT: haha It cuts out p.i.s.s. ____________________________________________ My sig?
Kyguard Fire Mandrill Astrophobics	Posted - 2006.12.05 02:06:00 - [6] Heh, I remember Ifni calling Remedial an idiot or something similar last tournament, MC and ASCN, you guys have it easy. === It's great being Amarr, aint it?(tm) [Insert badass sig to match ego here]
SATAN BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.12.05 02:18:00 - [7] From Burn Eden's point of view the EvE tv comentators are nothing more than clueless mental midgets, with big mouths so we really dont care what you have to say about us. There is nothing we can do to you, since you hide who you are in game, and we cant be bothered to track you down. But your comments being light hearted is a total farce. Just yesterday one of you said "why would anyone hire these guys if they come out with setups like this" being aimed at MC. I dont see this as a joke or a witty remark, its slander and ignorant slander at best. Take my coments as light heartedly as you want, but they are still fact.
Michayel Lyon The Corporation	Posted - 2006.12.05 02:20:00 - [8] Originally by: Weco Im still waiting for a evil joke about -TCA- though. /signed I want to be verbally abused on prime time. --- Lasiverin Dark > Is everyone here allied? Red Knight > we are allied by our zombie like ability to ***** missions
Scarcus Caldari Bre-X	Posted - 2006.12.05 02:23:00 - [9] Edited by: Scarcus on 05/12/2006 02:23:29 Dude...this is a game. If your reputation is worthy, you won't care what everyone else is bawling about. Take the chip off your shoulder and chill. A frequent star in God's cosmic gag-reel. Sig removed. Inappropriate for the forums -Kaemonn
UnknownHuman Blood Inquisition Sani Khal'Vecna	Posted - 2006.12.05 02:24:00 - [10] I agree with Satan. A lot of the time after a match "most" have no clue whats going on and then leads to speculation then ranting on about other alliances. First off, your commentators are extremely boring so I turn it off when they speak. Theres no action like there should be example: "Show-man-ship" - To draw a crowd make your speaker more enjoyable to draw the crown. And why shouldnt we take the comments "Seriously?" I mean thousands of people watch that and these alliances are offering a show to promote Eve. To make it better and how does the game community look if the leaders of these mega alliances just smack about them in the commentaries? Ridiculous! Either or lets just play eve :P
Dahak2150 HellBrothers Industries	Posted - 2006.12.05 02:30:00 - [11] Don't mind them. Most of 'em are the kind of folk who are fine with humor...until it's turned on them. I found all the remarks humorous, even the ones about Serenus Letum, my corp's then-alliance. I really enjoyed the broadcasts, can't wait for next week. Sadly, I'll be getting my edumacation and learning me some books on Friday. If you're on IE, pretend this is transparent while you get a better browser.
Ifni Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2006.12.05 02:55:00 - [12] Originally by: SATAN From Burn Eden's point of view the EvE tv comentators are nothing more than clueless mental midgets, with big mouths so we really dont care what you have to say about us. There is nothing we can do to you, since you hide who you are in game, and we cant be bothered to track you down. But your comments being light hearted is a total farce. Just yesterday one of you said "why would anyone hire these guys if they come out with setups like this" being aimed at MC. I dont see this as a joke or a witty remark, its slander and ignorant slander at best. Take my coments as light heartedly as you want, but they are still fact. Hide who we are? Me, Jamesw, Farjung and Andrew Gunn. Personally I spend most of my time in Syndicate with the rest of my corp, Jamesw lives in the north, Farjung is in BOB so head south. Andrew Gunn is in Maelstrom and I'm sure you can find out where he is with a location agent. If you feel that you must give some ingame recriminations for what we say then sure, hunt us down, otherwise stop saying your opinions are "facts". You take what is offered. And that must sometimes be enough.
Ray McCormack BIG	Posted - 2006.12.05 03:01:00 - [13] I personally enjoy the commentary given by you guys on EveTV. And I'm amazed at how the politics of Eve has started affecting you. Just keep in mind that there is a vast number of people out there that are quite happy with what you're doing, they're just not as vocal about it. Kudos for putting on a grand show, and for expressing your views on what you've seen in the way you're doing it. Which I believe is what you're there for. \| BMBE ISK Loans \| the all mighty BIG industrial corp from hell with a slong the size of a walrus...
spiralJunkie Minmatar EveTV	Posted - 2006.12.05 03:13:00 - [14] Originally by: Ray McCormack Just keep in mind that there is a vast number of people out there that are quite happy with what you're doing, they're just not as vocal about it. yup. Forums are for cmplaining, and out of the current peak of 14k viewers (including the one dude from Kazakstan) we've had about...20 _ Eeeeeeeeeeh, I don't think Titans are particularly Cost Effective - Goonswarm
Sakura Nihil Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.12.05 03:17:00 - [15] Don't forget about Star Fraction and the special village of roleplayers . I kid, y'all are doing alright.
NocturnalDeath Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.05 03:32:00 - [16] Insulting everyone only works if it is SMART and FUNNY. Commentators have been neither. Even worse is that they have went out of their way to be insulting while being incorrect and ignorant. This just comes across as sad. Especially when you defend it.
Rift Scorn Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.05 04:46:00 - [17] I wouldn't worry about it Spiral, you guys and gals have been doing a *****ing job and a bit of 'edge' to things makes it all the more watchable imo, and i guess you can't keep 100% of people happy 100% of the time, but i know ya doing ya best to. Don't 'tune it down' or turn it too bland plz, that would be a shame. Although there did seem to be a lot of mano-a-mano jokes floating around on Sunday Your friendly clone activation expert, free of service to the eve community since '03
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.12.05 04:49:00 - [18] Its ok to make fun of the Team that entered. Like saying ASCN brought Turtle set up. But to Try and screw the reputation of a whole alliance is a different matter. Wish you did spiral, so don't deny it or pretend to meant it otherwise.
Alita Tiphares	Posted - 2006.12.05 04:55:00 - [19] alot of angry nerds and forum warriors in this thread keep it up eve-tv, im loving it
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.12.05 04:58:00 - [20] Originally by: Alita Tiphares alot of angry nerds and forum warriors in this thread keep it up eve-tv, im loving it That comments make you sound So Charismatic, Intelligently set apart from us nerds. Than again you prolly just a fat women with Sand in her v*****.
Xrak Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.05 05:06:00 - [21] Loving the eveTV commentary. Please dont even think about taking the whiners seriously. Anyone with a smallest sense of humor can enjoy it. As you pointed out, the show without the comments would be a boring show. Great job, keep it up PS, Can one of the commentator write "Ifni smells" on a piece of paper with the results on and pass it around, he wont be able to read it as he is blind, mwhahahahhaha!a
spiralJunkie Minmatar EveTV	Posted - 2006.12.05 05:13:00 - [22] Originally by: Roxanna Kell Its ok to make fun of the Team that entered. Like saying ASCN brought Turtle set up. But to Try and screw the reputation of a whole alliance is a different matter. Wish you did spiral, so don't deny it or pretend to meant it otherwise. Wish i did what? and ruining the reputation of an alliance? We chat about what's happening, as players. If any alliance feels they can be threatened by some chubby geek on the internet talking on a live feed while dressed like a bee, then that alliance is in trouble _ Eeeeeeeeeeh, I don't think Titans are particularly Cost Effective - Goonswarm
Lunas Feelgood Euphoria Released	Posted - 2006.12.05 05:18:00 - [23] Originally by: spiralJunkie Originally by: Roxanna Kell Its ok to make fun of the Team that entered. Like saying ASCN brought Turtle set up. But to Try and screw the reputation of a whole alliance is a different matter. Wish you did spiral, so don't deny it or pretend to meant it otherwise. Wish i did what? and ruining the reputation of an alliance? We chat about what's happening, as players. If any alliance feels they can be threatened by some chubby geek on the internet talking on a live feed while dressed like a bee, then that alliance is in trouble
Generatorn Amarr The Corporation The Corporation Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.05 05:35:00 - [24] all I can say is go spiral, ifni and the others it has been fun to watch we need humor and entertainment and that people get worked up about the commentary is even more fun so keep it up and ignore the crying whiners \o/
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.12.05 06:21:00 - [25] Edited by: Roxanna Kell on 05/12/2006 06:21:36 Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Originally by: spiralJunkie Originally by: Roxanna Kell Its ok to make fun of the Team that entered. Like saying ASCN brought Turtle set up. But to Try and screw the reputation of a whole alliance is a different matter. Wish you did spiral, so don't deny it or pretend to meant it otherwise. Wish i did what? and ruining the reputation of an alliance? We chat about what's happening, as players. If any alliance feels they can be threatened by some chubby geek on the internet talking on a live feed while dressed like a bee, then that alliance is in trouble Quotes the comment against MC, nuf said. It wasn't funny. It propebly won;t affect them in Any way, because MC as far as I am concerned have a chain of work available for them due to their reputation. but whats upsetting is that on of you made that comment in the first place.
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.05 06:28:00 - [26] Okay, Spiral, I'm going to assume you want measured and well constructed responses to your post so I'm going to do that. Quote: Anyone who thinks they have something to really complain about - seriously, we are poking fun at everyone. Its nothing personal and shouldnt be taken that way. This is supposed to be entertaining and fun - just because your alliance has a few jokes made at its expense, thats what we are here for. Spiral, you know how I feel about EVE TV. I've spent a lot of time talking to you, Xyl, Hinik and Xod about it. I want to see it evolve beyond something that is just done for the Tournament into an actual entity that could report real news on a weekly basis. I'd like to see EVE TV become much greater than it is. Right now, however, I'm having trouble trying to figure out exactly what you're aiming for. Neutral commentary / reporting? Just pure comedy? Something in between? You see, I've heard you guys talk about what you want to do and where you want to go in person. It's inspiring stuff. What is not inspiring is watching the panel and hearing the commentators sometimes just go off on a random tangent about one person or alliance due to what they perceive as a mistake or boring, etc... Even with I disagree with Ifni, he tends to present himself well and tries to back up his points with measured responses. Trev has been a great surprise and I really enjoy listening to him. My point is that it's great to have a quick jibe here and there. I enjoy the humor as much as anyone, even when it's aimed at me and my alliance. Xod is great at this. He's not always 100% right in his observations (and I don't think it's possible for anyone to be anyway), but every time I hear him make a jab or a comment, it doesn't come across as a pure flaming napalm bomb. Quote: The tournament results are really what speaks for your alliance. I disagree with this statement. The Tournament is about more than just who wins. While some don't care to look beyond who won or lost, I think the matches themselves are the story. There are alliances in this tournament who might not win a single match but are worthy of note and admiration for the effort they put in and tactics they attempted. Just because you lost should not make you an instant object for jokes and ridicule, nor should winning be an instant ticket to praise and glory. Originally by: spiralJunkie If you feel the need to post some negativity, hold one for a minute, and see if there's a way you can hold that diss and maybe show some love. This is sound advice. The exchange between GoGo and Ifni in this thread is fantastic and also sums up a log of my feelings as well. We all appreciate the work you guys (and girl) are putting into this. You've been given a great gift and opportunity by CCP. Don't squander it for a few cheap laughs. As the 'Host' of this entire project I would think you would appreciate the entertainment factor of everyone here. I think many of your viewers would simply prefer less joking and insults and more reporting. - Oz's Tourney Betting Pool
QwaarJet Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.05 06:33:00 - [27] Generally it's been ok, but you need to understand that with 14K people watching your broadcasts, what you say matters. And for the people that haven't heard of an alliance, and you guys start saying they cheat/are boring etc. Most people aregoing to assume that's what they are like. Just by saying a few words, you guys on EVETV can make or break the reputation of an alliance. You slagged RAZOR rotten (and they deserved it), but RAZOR are awesome fighters on tranq, and most people will hear what you guys say and assume the whole RAZOR alliance is full of Nubbins'. So I would just say think before you say these scathing remarks, because a lot of people are listening to you. Otherwise good job :) "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimeter Of Wisdom.Run!"
Robert Dobbs Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.05 07:25:00 - [28] Oh for christ's sake, grow some thicker skin people. If you can't take a bit of criticism, you need a good slapping. Spiral, Go for your guns mate, don't hold back. I don't want EVE TV to be censored by a bunch of whiners. And yes, that means, take the pfss out of BoB, hell, flame me personally if you feel like it. I know it's all in good humour. - --------- Listen to BoB Radio!!
Earthan Gallente The Amazing Fire Eaters Breidablik	Posted - 2006.12.05 08:01:00 - [29] True, i liked very much Eve TV and i do agree that without those soemtimes on edge comments it could be boring sometimes so i think its done great. Tough imho some comments could be abit toned down, balanced . The Amazing Fire Eaters webpage
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.12.05 08:23:00 - [30] To the Op, nice post. [ER Public Relations Officer] [Is main activated, check, Post!]
Damion Zyne Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.05 09:28:00 - [31] Originally by: Dahak2150 Don't mind them. Most of 'em are the kind of folk who are fine with humor...until it's turned on them. /signed Seriously, we all know that this is not like PvP on TQ. So do these comments about the fights reflect the real power of an alliance ? Hell no. ASCN was second last time, so are they the second best PvP alliance in the game ? Some might doubt it, but still respect to the pilots and their strategy in the tourney. Did MC showed 3 awesome fights? Maybe not, but still most will take them as the most effective merc group in EVE. Spiral called us "unlucky loosers" and I really dont care. Yes I would have prefered a win against BOB, but they had the more effective setup. Im proud of our team and enjoy the fights and EVE TV. Everyone taking the result of the fight too serious is more than welcome to come down to Syndicate for some fun. They might step on the border of pure lame smack, but so far they do a great job entertaining us and never crossed it (with Ifni clearing up his comment about MC on the forums). So, thanks to EVE, EVE TV and all the alliances taking part for some great entertainment.
MrBigstar The Corporation The Corporation Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.05 09:43:00 - [32] I agree with Robert Dobbs post and please stop being small crying childrens, cant take critics eh ? I have to say I think the EveTv crew have done a great job and please contuine as you have, the more drama the better. Farjung 4tw as expert. Regards MrBigstar
El Yatta Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolance	Posted - 2006.12.05 11:25:00 - [33] Edited by: El Yatta on 05/12/2006 11:27:28 Dont change anything spiral and gang. Dont change anything. Well, actually, could you invent some mean stuff to say about us? You talked about our opponents lots and how emo (muffins), LARPin' (SF) and awesome or boring (ASCN) were, we feel left out of the *****ing. We're really horrible people at heart, or something? ---\|\|---
H Zub Omniscient Order The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2006.12.05 11:40:00 - [34] I think the tournament and Eve-Tv has been awesome so far. A huge improvment from the last tournament. So just keep it up and dont get sensetive on the rants. If its soo bad for some, turn it off. Noone's forcing you to watch. The Hunter Hypnotized

Karl Chroimcer Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.12.05 12:09:00 - [35] I have to say I'm very impressed with EVETV. EVETV doesn't just commentate on the tournament they make it fun. Imagine if they didn't do anything bar say just the facts, it would get boring pretty fast. The jokes and jabs at players and alliances make the broadcast fun and a pleasure to watch and like they said, they make fun of everyone, so don't take it personally. Well done SpiralJunkie and the EVETV Team. forum rules \| [email protected]


Eldo Davip Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.12.05 12:23:00 - [36] offending everyone equally eh spiral? Anyways the EveTV crew is quite public. You know their mains, and you know their corporations. Finding out where they live, or getting any intel on them is as easy as finding out where the President lives. Take their words with a pinch of salt however. Spiral, Xyliana et al: You guys are doing a great job, keep it up. I'd be worried if no one was whining tbh. ___ Email Us (Report a bad post) \| Forum Rules \| Website EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER

Shivaja Caldari CHON THE R0NIN	Posted - 2006.12.05 13:08:00 - [37] Yea go ahed spiral make fun from all of us is only game we can takeit and who can then he deserves to die the most horible and shameful way :) BTW nice show i enjoyit a lot. Props to u and all in EVE TV team good job guys keep it up Shivaja Queen of Outer Ring CHON ceo THE R0NIN Kill Board
Waagaa Ktlehr Amarr Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.05 13:25:00 - [38] All I can say is: If you can't take the heat, don't play with fire. If you redicule people on a public broadcast you open yourself up for criticism as well. :) I openly defended Spiral and Xod in IRC all the time the last tourney when people dissed them for being less knowingly about the internal game mechanics. It seems the publicity has grown to Spiral's head a bit. Insecurity shines through in the amount of arrogance displayed. I enjoy every moment of watching EVE TV, but trying to take the **** out of someone while making a fool of yourself and not allowing criticism against yourselves... zOMG.. You sound much like the RL media already! :) - - One ship to jam them all, one ship to damp them. One ship to suck them dry and in the dark void gank them.
Chagal Civ Caldari Silver Snake Enterprise Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.05 13:49:00 - [39] I just love it. They make fun of the allaince i am part of too and tbh i laugh at that too. I don't see anything wrong in making fun of someone , if there's someone that feels offended by a joke , than u are obviously not playing this for fun , but maybe for a show off or god knows what. As on of the "sprite" commercials it says : u love to laugh at other ppl , as others tragedy entertains u , and u know that when u **** up everyone else will laugh at u.Life as it is. Kepp up the good work! Join us : http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=422106
Traxio Nacho Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.05 14:08:00 - [40] Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 05/12/2006 14:10:53 Originally by: Chagal Civ I just love it. They make fun of the allaince i am part of too and tbh i laugh at that too. I don't see anything wrong in making fun of someone , if there's someone that feels offended by a joke , than u are obviously not playing this for fun , but maybe for a show off or god knows what. As on of the "sprite" commercials it says : u love to laugh at other ppl , as others tragedy entertains u , and u know that when u **** up everyone else will laugh at u.Life as it is. Kepp up the good work! I agree laughing at people and making jokes is fun I support them in trying to enterain us. For example to say "MC/FIX are BOB alts" "Mining Coalition" "BE are WCS w-hores" "AAA/RA love Ctrl-Q" "ASCN are carebears" I know they all that is meant in jest. However comments like "omg an armor tank Raven what are they doing?" "who would ever want to hire these guys" "they have only bought one semi good setup to this tournament" Are abit different. Anyhow thanks to all the EveTV people especially the ones that are doing all this in their own free time, I enjoy the majority of this and thank you. You give the Eve-Online game yet another uniqueness (if thats a word ).
The Hardman Amarr Sausage Commandos	Posted - 2006.12.05 14:15:00 - [41] I thought all your commentary was OK, and was good in the spirit of you all being nonproffesional commentators who are participants in a game. I really enjoyed watching the 6 matches I watched, and look forward to next weekend. I also think some of the alliances/players who you made comments about, need to grow a bit thicker skins. However, you guys need the thickest skins of all, being 'celebrities'. As well as critics. As such, I thought many of EvE TVers responses in the MC thread as being inappropriate. Also surprising, it seemed like there was some real issues there on the part of the EvE TV towards MC. Basically, asking the question of how could the commentary/hosting be better is a good one. Getting defensive/personal is not a good idea (which is sort of how I read the first post).
Darcha	Posted - 2006.12.05 14:25:00 - [42] I truly love watching the alliance tourney and I don't think at all ur overstepping ur boundries. Jeremey Clarkson (top gear) has been doing it for years. It's not necasserily the truth. IT'S JUST AN OPINION. If the eve-tv commentators would just give the dry facts it be like watching the news on tv ffs. What u guys are doing now is way better. I do think it was nicer before when u guys sat on a couch tho, the table is so..... dunno the couch seemed more relaxing. it's a nice professional setup this way but better off the relaxed way bottle of Quafe on the table keep up the good work guys, ur doing a terrific job.
esquimo leviticus GalacTECH Unlimited	Posted - 2006.12.05 14:39:00 - [43] The fact that you have hurt some uber hard alliances feelings demonstrates your doing your job well, keep it up. If your going to dress like a chubby bee at least make sure you have some wings and tweedle boppers next time around, if only to give your griefers some more ammunition. Cheers, congrats and please continue giving us more quality viewing.
Tecam Hund Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.12.05 14:57:00 - [44] Edited by: Tecam Hund on 05/12/2006 15:16:58 Good post Spiral. I wanted to say thank you to everybody involved in EVE-TV, and this looks like a perfect opportunity. The show is great. Yes its biased, yes you are poking fun at everybody, and maybe even make inappropriate comments. This is what makes EVE-TV a blast. I enjoyed Stavros' dirty jokes the last time when there was an uproar about it on the forums, and there is completely nothing wrong with slandering a losing team. It fires up the tournament and adds gladiatorial mood to it. Most importantly it causes emotions in participants and viewers. So thank you everybody who took their time and came to Iceland to provide us with this awesome coverage of the tournament. And thanks to CCP who made it all possible. Keep up the good work and don't mind the whiners. To those who get offended by the comments: If you somehow think that negative comments about you on EVE-TV make you look bad, you have no idea how much worse it looks on you to take offence at them. On the other hand, the ability to brush off insults shows high level of security and self-esteem, which only strengthens your reputation. P.S. Good thing Darcha mentioned the couch. YES PLEASE! Bring back the couch next time. It was so much better. Join Star Fraction. Be yourself.
El Yatta Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolance	Posted - 2006.12.05 15:34:00 - [45] Originally by: Traxio Nacho Edited by: Traxio Nacho on 05/12/2006 14:10:53 Originally by: Chagal Civ I just love it. They make fun of the allaince i am part of too and tbh i laugh at that too. I don't see anything wrong in making fun of someone , if there's someone that feels offended by a joke , than u are obviously not playing this for fun , but maybe for a show off or god knows what. As on of the "sprite" commercials it says : u love to laugh at other ppl , as others tragedy entertains u , and u know that when u **** up everyone else will laugh at u.Life as it is. Kepp up the good work! I agree laughing at people and making jokes is fun I support them in trying to enterain us. For example to say "MC/FIX are BOB alts" "Mining Coalition" "BE are WCS w-hores" "AAA/RA love Ctrl-Q" "ASCN are carebears" I know they all that is meant in jest. However comments like "omg an armor tank Raven what are they doing?" "who would ever want to hire these guys" "they have only bought one semi good setup to this tournament" Are abit different. I disagree, tbh. I dont think they are a bit different - I mean they're actually talking about the tournament aren't they, whether you think its accurate or not. The only one that is a bit inappropriate is "who would want to hire these guys", but if you are seriously annoyed about that, at least enough for the MC to spam this thread somewhat... well, its rather pot calling kettle black when you say the publicity has gone to spiral's head. ---\|\|---
Aaron Rex Caldari The Fated	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:06:00 - [46] For starters, I love Eve TV. I like to see the way you have been evolving, and the fact that this is mostly volenteer work just amazes me. Good job. I do think that some very vocal critics of Eve TV have been taking things a bit too far. I would agree with them if I were paying good money for watching Eve TV and they were hoasting something major, but seeing as it's free, run by volenteers and about an event in a computer game, then I think some take this too seriously. But there are some valid points also. I like the way you slag some of the alliances off, it's fun. A bit like what Jeremy Clarkson does (as someone said). But if you do that, you need to be able to handle people slaging you off, as long as its done in a similar manar to what you do. Eye for an eye etc.. As for some constructive criticism, if you want some. I think why many have a negative attitude towards Andrew is because of the way questions are asked by Spiral. They are mostly not directed at anyone, and it seems Tervaga is quicker to reply, thus leaving Andrew out of it. Perhaps if Spiral directed his questions more at one of the experts (not always, but more often) then this issue would be resolved. But all in all, keep up the good work. Honestly, most of us love what you're doing. I want Eve TV back for the next championship, maybe even other things. Whatever you do, don't give up cos a few people are sore. Aaron Rex - Remember the Scordite... The Fated
Static Ga'lraith Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.05 16:27:00 - [47] I just wanna see someone put the dinosaur in their pants again :( ----------------
Andor Traxel Nebula Rasa Holdings Nebula Rasa	Posted - 2006.12.05 17:10:00 - [48] Originally by: SATAN From Burn Eden's point of view the EvE tv comentators are nothing more than clueless mental midgets, with big mouths so we really dont care what you have to say about us. There is nothing we can do to you, since you hide who you are in game, and we cant be bothered to track you down. But your comments being light hearted is a total farce. Just yesterday one of you said "why would anyone hire these guys if they come out with setups like this" being aimed at MC. I dont see this as a joke or a witty remark, its slander and ignorant slander at best. Take my coments as light heartedly as you want, but they are still fact. Certainly this is your opinion satan. I know your atatement is at least partly false as Ifni signs in all the time( he podded me as a 1 week old noob in Y9g, so is in my adress book) Any decent level 4 agent will tell you exactly where he is. IMO I think all the announcers are doing a great job, the experts have great knowledge, and the hosts have what they are supposed to, personality. Great production guys, and thanks to all you people working so hard behind the scenes to pull this off. Many Thanks as well, to the leadership at CCP for turning the entire gaming industry upside down with the most advanced software and hardware on the planet :)
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.12.05 17:46:00 - [49] Eldo, Andor, Ifni: SpiralJunkie is the only commentator of whom I'm aware that never logs in or undocks. For the others, your point is valid. For instance, I know Farjung PvP's, as I've fought him (and won ). With all due respect to our opponents, you guys went 3-1 on AXE's first match in favor of a group of one-year-old characters over an AXE tournament team whose noobiest member has over 30m SP. Having spent most of the past 6 months ninja-mining Veldspar out from under Chribba in Amarr to pay for our tournament team's implants, I feel a bit slighted by that. While we're on the topic of commentator shortcomings--nobody in the tournament is "failing to call primaries." If you see damage spread out over multiple ships, look for sensor dampening and auto-aggressing drones. Nobody enters this tournament without an understanding of why and how to call primaries. --P
JOSEPHx Caldari Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolance	Posted - 2006.12.05 17:57:00 - [50] Originally by: Static Ga'lraith I just wanna see someone put the dinosaur in their pants again :( Unlikely to happen, no doubt the "dinosaur lovers alliance" would just whine how unfairly treated they are. -
Waragha Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.05 17:57:00 - [51] I really enjoy EVETV but everyone needs to accept the fact that The Commentators The Studio hosts The Viewers Have no clue whatsoever as to whats going on. The only people who really understand the tactics being used are the team, the opposite team and maybe other contestants who know what to look for. If you're just going on comments from the commentators / forums / whatever you are an arse. Just a few days ago the post about "god damn target that oneiros on the bob team", i mean wtf I suggest next year you bring actual participants of the tourny to the studio. Hopefully someone will volunteer. Besides all this smack on the forums i'd like to say GJ on doing the whole thing, lots of respect for running the whole thing. Originally by: Trepkos The only difference between GS and NPC's are that GS respawn quicker.
Omega Man The Geddy Foundation	Posted - 2006.12.05 17:58:00 - [52] Originally by: SATAN From Burn Eden's point of view the EvE tv comentators are nothing more than clueless mental midgets, with big mouths so we really dont care what you have to say about us. There is nothing we can do to you, since you hide who you are in game, and we cant be bothered to track you down. But your comments being light hearted is a total farce. Just yesterday one of you said "why would anyone hire these guys if they come out with setups like this" being aimed at MC. I dont see this as a joke or a witty remark, its slander and ignorant slander at best. Take my coments as light heartedly as you want, but they are still fact. Yeah stop giving the MC team a hard time commentators. Their results in the tournament speak for themselves. Well done Satan for a post that had no slanderous or farcial content in it.
Sivona Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.05 18:12:00 - [53] Originally by: Waragha I really enjoy EVETV but everyone needs to accept the fact that The Commentators The Studio hosts The Viewers Have no clue whatsoever as to whats going on. The only people who really understand the tactics being used are the team, the opposite team and maybe other contestants who know what to look for. If you're just going on comments from the commentators / forums / whatever you are an arse. Just a few days ago the post about "god damn target that oneiros on the bob team", i mean wtf I suggest next year you bring actual participants of the tourny to the studio. Hopefully someone will volunteer. Besides all this smack on the forums i'd like to say GJ on doing the whole thing, lots of respect for running the whole thing. This is kind of true, it depends in many ways what tactics are being used. Some are very conventional and extremely easy to understand, others some people have completely missed or misunderstood. Which is fair enough, a lot of these setups didn't take just 5 minutes to work out and to expect someone to understand them completely within 30 seconds is somewhat unfair, however it does not mean they can presume they know what is going on after 30 seconds This is really why i was quite in favour of seleene explaining his setup and the plan, it didn't work but it did actually allow a bit of perspective as to what is going on.

Nebulai	Posted - 2006.12.05 18:26:00 - [54] Ignore the whiners, people are to close minded and need to relax. You guys are all doing a great job (including the people behind the scenes) Without the light hearted jokes it'd be less entertaining. Good job all around guys

Ikvar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.05 22:08:00 - [55] Edited by: Ikvar on 05/12/2006 22:10:44 Originally by: spiralJunkie Be aware that we're providing a free service manned mostly by volunteers from the game. Do you continually have to go on about oh what a terrible hardship it is for you to get a free holiday abroad to go and do something you obviously really enjoy doing? Any which way, it's not what you're saying or who you're saying it about but rather the fact you do it at all and it's done in a very brainless manner to boot. Bear in mind that when you're doing EVE TV you're representing EVE and CCP to not just the EVE community but anyone else who happens to tune in as well. I've taken to just turning the sound off on the stream when the fights aren't on because if I want to hear that crap I can just go read Jita local or something. I actually thought that you were a pretty decent host last time Spiral as (or at least this is how I remember it) you had some interesting stuff to say about the proceedings and you didn't go to heavy on the old 'humour'. I mean I'm not some prude who's monocle flew out at the first mention of the word 'crap' or something and I appreciate your attempt to inject some funny into the proceedings but continual insults are not the way to go when they aren't done in a clever or intelligent way. Originally by: spiralJunkie This is supposed to be entertaining and fun - just because your alliance has a few jokes made at its expense, thats what we are here for. Jokes at the expense of your alliance TV I feel a bit arsey complaining about this whole thing but it's annoyed me so there. I'm not going to go off one about the stuff (or lack of) the 'Experts' or commentators have to say, I'm sure someone else will do that. Edit: I had some more stuff to say. Originally by: Rekindle I was in an empire system when they used their grief tactics to explode everything I own.
Ikvar Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.05 22:14:00 - [56] Originally by: Seleene I enjoy the humor as much as anyone, even when it's aimed at me and my alliance. Xod is great at this. He's not always 100% right in his observations (and I don't think it's possible for anyone to be anyway), but every time I hear him make a jab or a comment, it doesn't come across as a pure flaming napalm bomb. This is basically what I'm trying to say. Also Trev you're the best ♥ Originally by: Rekindle I was in an empire system when they used their grief tactics to explode everything I own.
Milena Rage The Aftermath	Posted - 2006.12.05 22:20:00 - [57] Originally by: Nebulai Ignore the whiners noooo, because then they sit and stew.. rally more to their whinage (sp?). Easier to just listen every now and again, doesn't mean you need to do what's suggested/demanded by the minority though. still, Informed/Educated smack > random smack (it's funnier!) EvETV is what it is because ifni is such a qtpie. love all around to the guys/girls onscreen and offscreen (pilots also ) just another newb
Verus Potestas Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2006.12.05 22:54:00 - [58] Quote: Thank you for your email. spiralJunkie has now been removed, as this is one of only dozens of complaints. That was the response to my complaint I think it was about as serious as the complaint I made Between corps atm, the NPC one is strictly a temporary thing. RAWR!111 Sig Hijackz0r!!11 - Immy
niko86 Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2006.12.05 23:06:00 - [59] Originally by: spiralJunkie Be aware that we're providing a free service manned mostly by volunteers from the game. No other game does this, there's simply nothing similar that exists. If you feel the need to post some negativity, hold one for a minute, and see if there's a way you can hold that diss and maybe show some love. It maybe a free service but i'm sure its being paid for by our subscriptions. And probably so are your trips to iceland and the nights out on the lash with the devs, so perhaps try and respect yourself and the other players' money and just be abit more pro about things. Certainly good job on what you have done upto now and inspite of all these whiners you still got the bottle to get up and go infront of a camera to 14k people around the world. Also your not the ones hiding behind virtual persona's on a forum writing nasty personal comments about other peoples appearances etc. - Transire suum pectus mundoque potiri
Lonak Silu	Posted - 2006.12.06 10:18:00 - [60] Edited by: Lonak Silu on 06/12/2006 10:20:11 Edited by: Lonak Silu on 06/12/2006 10:18:49 hmm, lots of negativity here, so it's time for a BUFFERING bomb ok...now that you are all Heres the "Buffering" terrorist group demands: - All commentators will have to wear suits with ties, and act like robots, JUST reporting whats happening (i.e. "Georgette activated his MWD, Georgette is dead. CUCK won this match, back to the studio.") The monotone voice is mandatory. - IF, and i repeat : IF a commentator dares to throw a joke, he will have to raise a sign with a big "JOKES!" on it. You are now allowed to hit the F5 key. BUFFERING PREVAILS ! Nah, seriously guys, its a game, its for fun, and those VOLOUNTEERS are there to give us an amazing content that, to my knowledge, doesnt exist in any other MMORPG. So, chill a bit, and take it like it should be, with a smile on your face Keep up the good work EveTV
Tecam Hund Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2006.12.06 10:29:00 - [61] Originally by: niko86 It maybe a free service but i'm sure its being paid for by our subscriptions. And probably so are your trips to iceland and the nights out on the lash with the devs, so perhaps try and respect yourself and the other players' money and just be abit more pro about things. Your subscribtion pays for your EVE account, Mr. Disgrunted Customer. If the servers go offline, then it's CCP responsibility to fix them and provide you with the best quality product. Beyond that it is up to CCP how to deal with their budget. Or do you maybe hold shares? Join Star Fraction. Be yourself.

Ginger.	Posted - 2006.12.06 10:47:00 - [62] I WILL DESTROY YOU

Zylatis AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2006.12.06 12:32:00 - [63] Edited by: Zylatis on 06/12/2006 12:31:54 Originally by: Traxio Nacho However comments like "omg an armor tank Raven what are they doing?" "who would ever want to hire these guys" "they have only bought one semi good setup to this tournament" Are abit different. But what if its true? :D Anyhoo, i think this is silly. Its a bloody game and if youve invested so much of yourself and your time in it that it becomes these comments become imporant and harmful you need to go to Eve Anonymous meetings
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.06 14:29:00 - [64] Edited by: Blacklight on 06/12/2006 14:30:24 I can't believe any of you really get offended by what the commentators or panel say, if you do then you have a problem not them. Lighten up. Personally I couldn't give two hoots how much grief they give BoB, it's entertaining and we put ourselves out there in the public eye enough to be a big target for a bit of a bashing. MC certainly have no room to talk either given the fact that you're public image is deliberately maintained to ensure you're always in the public eye. No matter what EveTV do they will be criticised by someone. However, what can't be denied is that the commentary was truly awful during the first tournament broadcast on EveRadio and since that time has improved 100 fold. EveTV has continued to evolve in a very positive way and it's always a lot easier to criticise than it is to improve upon something yourself. I still think the odd comment here and there is a little over the top or that the panel get something wrong or go off on a bit of a tangent but this is not the BBC or SKY news, these people haven't had media training, the shows aren't scripted, the hosts haven't had 10 years broadcasting experience etc etc... and I'm quite happy about that, the slightly amateurish and wandering randomness of some elements of the show gives it character. This is largely a broadcast for players by players, it shows and thats a good thing. Really some of you lot need to get off your high horses about this issue and chill out. Blog
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.06 14:47:00 - [65] Originally by: SATAN From Burn Eden's point of view the EvE tv comentators are nothing more than clueless mental midgets, with big mouths so we really dont care what you have to say about us. There is nothing we can do to you, since you hide who you are in game, and we cant be bothered to track you down. But your comments being light hearted is a total farce. Just yesterday one of you said "why would anyone hire these guys if they come out with setups like this" being aimed at MC. I dont see this as a joke or a witty remark, its slander and ignorant slander at best. Take my coments as light heartedly as you want, but they are still fact. The only message I take from this post is that you have no room to talk about anyone else. Starting with an insult isn't really a good way to get your message over, especially given the irony of it being an insult to someone's mental capacity given the structure and content of your own message. Your post is intensely hypocritical as no-one has a bigger mouth than Burn Eden (except perhaps BoB but I don't mind admitting that) and as a corp you've a history of posting stuff on the forums that suggests you would do well to not call other people mental midgets. There's an implicit threat in the 'there's nothing we can do to you' statement even though you try to deflect it by saying you can't be bothered to track them down, which quite frankly is just schoolground bully talk and isn't terribly effective at reinforcing any serious point you've got to make because it's just going to make people laugh at you. You would really think about going after these guys in game because of something said on EveTV? The fact that it would even cross your mind says an awful lot more about you than it does about the EveTV team. Lastly your comments aren't 'fact' they're opinion, so not only do you start your post with an insult you end it with a statement that is so obviously incorrect it blows your own arguments out of the water. If you've got a valid opinion then at least learn how to get it across effectively rather than just making yourself look ridiculous. Blog
Venatus Phoenix Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.06 17:44:00 - [66] I don't personally care about the commentary since the last tournament so I haven't been paying attention to it. Mute FTW! Last tournament they made a comment along the lines of "If we don't know who you are you must suck." Which rubbed me the wrong way and set the stage for my opinion of the commentors. I see by the fact that this thread exists they are continuing on that same line. I agree wholeheartly with Seleene's post; #26 on the first page, on what needs to happen if they wish to expand EveTV into anything more than childish banter.
spiralJunkie Minmatar EveTV	Posted - 2006.12.06 17:48:00 - [67] Originally by: Blacklight Stuff It is with great pleasure that EVETV would like to announce our new PR Director, Blacklight _ Eeeeeeeeeeh, I don't think Titans are particularly Cost Effective - Goonswarm
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation The Corporation Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.06 18:05:00 - [68] Originally by: Venatus Phoenix I don't personally care about the commentary since the last tournament so I haven't been paying attention to it. Mute FTW! Last tournament they made a comment along the lines of "If we don't know who you are you must suck." Which rubbed me the wrong way and set the stage for my opinion of the commentors. I see by the fact that this thread exists they are continuing on that same line. I agree wholeheartly with Seleene's post; #26 on the first page, on what needs to happen if they wish to expand EveTV into anything more than childish banter. If you do not allow yourself to create an opinion on your own, then why do you come here to voice something admittedly horrifically out of date, and at worst not even your own? It seems that a lot of Ascendant people think the comment about ASCN being unknown to them (etc etc) is unfair, et al. You can only blame one person for those comments: Vardemis. Every team captain (or contact person) received a request for material regarding their alliance, and it seems only one in four ever bothered taking the time to actually do it. Are you surprised that their only opinion or material is the stigmatized stuff you hear on the forums now and then? Personally, I'm surprised they've not been harder on you, because that material is not very often shining. - EVE is sick.
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation The Corporation Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.06 18:10:00 - [69] The commentary is not only good, it's better than can be expected. To go into a tournament and then expect the (volunteer) commentators not to send you some pikes, etc, is blatantly stupid. What amazes me most, or perhaps pleases is a better word, is that it is most often the touchy people who like to be rubbed the right way in their propaganda that take most offence. People who are used to being adored and pampered suddenly has this verbose guy on a live, public, show say things about you that you don't particularly want to hear. Too bad, ce' la vie. I submitted the appropriate material to the EveTV guys for my team. We're hardly mentioned, and when we are it's usually with MC in the same sentence. Just because we have no love for being associated with MC doesn't mean we're remotely angry at the EveTV staff. Shape up, swallow your pride. This is the public opinion as seen from a different perspective than your own. - EVE is sick.
Cosmo Cyrano Loveless Inc	Posted - 2006.12.06 18:24:00 - [70] Originally by: spiralJunkie It is with great pleasure that EVETV would like to announce our new PR Director, Blacklight Noes! EVETV is one massive BoB conspiracy to discredit ASCN, you know its all true, cos spiral's hiring even more BoB I really don't know whats funniest. EVETV, or the rabblerabble* reactions that even the most benign offhand comment gets on the forums.
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation The Corporation Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.06 18:29:00 - [71] Originally by: Cosmo Cyrano I really don't know whats funniest. EVETV, or the rabblerabble* reactions that even the most benign offhand comment gets on the forums. Rabble section. Hands down. Also the saddest. - EVE is sick.
Venatus Phoenix Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.06 18:36:00 - [72] Edited by: Venatus Phoenix on 06/12/2006 18:36:47 Originally by: Ithildin If you do not allow yourself to create an opinion on your own, then why do you come here to voice something admittedly horrifically out of date, and at worst not even your own? It seems that a lot of Ascendant people think the comment about ASCN being unknown to them (etc etc) is unfair, et al. You can only blame one person for those comments: Vardemis. Every team captain (or contact person) received a request for material regarding their alliance, and it seems only one in four ever bothered taking the time to actually do it. Are you surprised that their only opinion or material is the stigmatized stuff you hear on the forums now and then? Personally, I'm surprised they've not been harder on you, because that material is not very often shining. Opinions are like a filtered out word, everyone has one. My affiliation with ASCN has nothing what so every to do with my posting. I don't even know what the comments were towards ASCN except outside of what I've read on the forums. Mute FTW and all that. My opinion (OMG) is if they wish to expand outside of these tournament venues then they need to strive for a basic common denominator. Some people are going to find the commentary funny while some people are going to find it insulting or in bad taste. It would be better for them to cut out that insulting portion of the equation. A witty comment here and there is fine but if my memory of the last tournament carries over to this one they spent more time continuing with whatever they thought was funny then providing meanful comments which will just lead to people not even bothering to listen; me for example. Really the purpose of my post was to support Seleene's post on the first page. Either way opinions that people have set in stone are impossible to argue regardless of whoever may or may not be in the right or if there even is a right answer at all.
Waut 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.12.06 18:45:00 - [73] It's all good. Could use some more cursing or the use of the word **** more tough In Soviet EVE, roids pop YOU

Eldo Davip Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.12.06 19:05:00 - [74] Originally by: spiralJunkie Originally by: Blacklight Stuff It is with great pleasure that EVETV would like to announce our new PR Director, Blacklight omg a BoB PR director. The Eve-TV forums are now going to explode. ___ Email Us (Report a bad post) \| Forum Rules \| Website EvE +NLINE - T+TALHELLDEATH SUPPORTER

Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.06 19:18:00 - [75] Originally by: Eldo Davip Originally by: spiralJunkie Originally by: Blacklight Stuff It is with great pleasure that EVETV would like to announce our new PR Director, Blacklight omg a BoB PR director. The Eve-TV forums are now going to explode. Well it is something we've been proven to be good at, everyone certainly knows who we are Blog
Troubadour Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.12.06 20:20:00 - [76] here at EM, we love to be hated, so it's no big deal. We caught the comment about us "roleplaying heterosexuals" and found it humorous. And anyway, the tournament really is more of a test of how well you can do in the tournament, not a test of how good you are at the game. On the same day we lost our match we went out and inflicted 6 billion worth of damage in ships alone and took out some clowns' pos. The tournament is fun, and it's nice to win, but it doesn't mean anything.
Magorath KR0M The Red Skull	Posted - 2006.12.06 21:41:00 - [77] TBH more ****ing on Trevedian for not keeping his monkies supplied with bananas for the first fight. IT'S ALL YOUR FAUALT.
Lonak Silu	Posted - 2006.12.06 22:19:00 - [78] Originally by: Ginger. I WILL DESTROY YOU PREPARE TO BE BUFFERIZED !
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.12.08 11:24:00 - [79] Originally by: Blacklight Originally by: Eldo Davip Originally by: spiralJunkie Originally by: Blacklight Stuff It is with great pleasure that EVETV would like to announce our new PR Director, Blacklight omg a BoB PR director. The Eve-TV forums are now going to explode. Well it is something we've been proven to be good at, everyone certainly knows who we are I CATEGORICALLY DISAGREE WITH THIS STATEMENT. omgroflbobhaxsploitdev ... ... Edit: crap, wrong forum, sorry. --P
Kobanashi Laro Die Apokalyptischen Reiter Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.10 12:05:00 - [80] You guys from EveTv do a fantatic job. Keep on doing it this way.
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.12.13 16:44:00 - [81] Edited by: FireFoxx80 on 13/12/2006 16:44:15 Whatever happens, 'neutral' entities in the game, will always be attacked by other groups for not being neutral enough. Whether it be on the forums or in-game. Just look at TRUST, ISS, Eve Tribune, and now EveTV. They have all at some point or another been accused of being pro-x or anti-y. My only* grief relating to EveTV has been related to their recent Flash-based stream, which at the end of the day was the fault of the 3rd party company involved. Personally I despise X's. Man, they really *** me off Edit: tidied up code. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
DriveCrash The Graduates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.13 17:12:00 - [82] Originally by: SATAN From Burn Eden's point of view the EvE tv comentators are nothing more than clueless mental midgets, with big mouths so we really dont care what you have to say about us. There is nothing we can do to you, since you hide who you are in game, and we cant be bothered to track you down. But your comments being light hearted is a total farce. Just yesterday one of you said "why would anyone hire these guys if they come out with setups like this" being aimed at MC. I dont see this as a joke or a witty remark, its slander and ignorant slander at best. Take my coments as light heartedly as you want, but they are still fact. /QFT Comments are one thing, as a person holding a "public position" these are not light hearted comments you make but out right slander. So, please for the sake of everyone, shut up. -DCO
Tsurako	Posted - 2006.12.13 19:26:00 - [83] Anyone else think that this thread is thrown into a new light now that EVE-TV has been shown to be a PR-puppet mouthpiece for BoB to hound their enemies out of the game?
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.12.13 19:43:00 - [84] The first alliance tournament had no evetv. All we could do was listen to it on eve radio or read about it on the forums. Not really that great. As soon as you get a better way of showing it, you ge people complaining. Now, I understand that some reputations were verbally abused live in front of thousands of people. Anyone who is smart enough to care about, knows opinions are always biased. Anyone who isn't smart enough and believes everything they see on TV doesn't matter. I therefore fail to see what the problem is? Did EVE TV not verbally abuse us all equally? I remember Molle being given a very hard time on SiRadio for example. So its far from a BOB propaganda machine and the fact that the only BOB guy on there was about as far from a propaganda monkey as you can get speaks volumes. I'm kinda shocked so many people have so much to say, now I understand what TV networks have to deal with!
Tsurako	Posted - 2006.12.13 20:20:00 - [85] Shin Ra, did you miss the part where spiralJunkie posted a thread laughing at CYV0K for quitting EVE by leaking screenshots from the ASCN member-only forum?
Shin Ra BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.12.13 20:39:00 - [86] Originally by: Tsurako Shin Ra, did you miss the part where spiralJunkie posted a thread laughing at CYV0K for quitting EVE by leaking screenshots from the ASCN member-only forum? So? They only thing I don't like about that is he apologised for it.
dantes inferno Caldari Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:43:00 - [87] yay for biast tv!!!! no matter how good of a presenter junkie is but after posting the private forums of ascn on eve o and the " i apologise for using the wrong char, but not for doing it(oh and btw im not really sorry this is just damage control)"thread, i wonder how much people will not bother watching again?? quite a few from the posts been made. RAM is recruiting

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