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Bruminor III
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Posted - 2006.12.05 06:12:00 -
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I've read the armageddon setup thread, they are all terrible IMO.
I can fit an OK setup w/ Modulated turrets, but when I use T2 Dual Heavy's, I run into CPU problems.
Anyone have a good Armageddon setup w/ T2 Pulse. If it uses a co-processor, i dont see it being good :P
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Exiled One
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.12.05 06:23:00 -
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There's is an awesome dual heavy pulse II setup that fits without a coproc and is gank & tank at the same time. Try to figure out yourself. Fits with WU 5 and AWU4 (even thou you are left with 4k pg spare ) It's great being Amarr, aint it? |

Bruminor III
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Posted - 2006.12.05 06:35:00 -
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If I could figure it out, I'd have done it lol... been messing with this for a long time. I'm pretty picky tho, I will not put a cap charger/power relay, etc since they just arent that great in PVP, but I think I'll have to since any decent modules take 20+ CPU.
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Bruminor III
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Posted - 2006.12.05 06:37:00 -
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Also, my current setup is 7 turrets, 1 heavy nos for highs, lows are LAR, 3 N-type hardeners, then mix of EANMs/1600s/Heat sinks, and then i cant even fit 3 cap rechargers, let alone tackle or something good.
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Commander Thrawn
Tarnak inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.05 06:46:00 -
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Edited by: Commander Thrawn on 05/12/2006 06:46:22 most setups are gonna require co-processor
and im sorry but t2 dual heavy are just so much better then named with the specialization skills you really don't have a choise to fit them
7x t2 dual heavy pulse, e500nos sensor booster II, cap injector, scrambler lar II, 1600, 2 eamn II, dcu, 2xheatsink II, co-processor
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Aeaus
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.12.05 06:47:00 -
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7 x Dual Heavy Pulse II 1 x Medium Diminishing
1 x Electrochemical Cap Booster 2 x F-90 SB
2 x EANM II 2 x Accomadation LAR Is 1 x Internal Force Field Array 3 x N-Type Hardeners / Heat Sink IIs
Downgrade DC to worser named and you are forced to downgrade the nosferatu, otherwise use a 3% implant. The setup can get a tad bit expensive with those internal force fields. If you're using the implant you can ditch the nosferatu and upgrade to Tech II LARs.
All of five minutes in quickfit, if you want anything better you had better think of it yourself.
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Exiled One
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.12.05 06:51:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Thrawn Edited by: Commander Thrawn on 05/12/2006 06:46:22 most setups are gonna require co-processor
and im sorry but t2 dual heavy are just so much better then named with the specialization skills you really don't have a choise to fit them
7x t2 dual heavy pulse, e500nos sensor booster II, cap injector, scrambler lar II, 1600, 2 eamn II, dcu, 2xheatsink II, co-processor
You can fit that one w/out the coproc, stop and think about it for a second. No sacrifice to damage/tank.  It's great being Amarr, aint it? |

Bruminor III
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Posted - 2006.12.05 06:59:00 -
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Edited by: Bruminor III on 05/12/2006 07:03:31 I dont know how you came up with that setup, but it doesn't come hardly close to fitting. The CPU usage is far beyond whats available.
EDIT - btw, it would be a good setup, and yes the FF array makes it a bit pricey.
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Lord Infy
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.12.05 08:03:00 -
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What about instead of fitting boat load of armor hardeners one would fit plates, about 3-4 x 1600mm plates?
Teh following fitting is possible:
7 x Mega Pulse II
1 x j5 warp disruptor 1 x Sensor Booster II 1 x Cap Recharger I
1 x Medium Armor Repper 3 x Heat Sink II 3 x 1600mm plate 1 x EANM II
It does nt repair damage, it soaks it 'till it pops 
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Exiled One
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2006.12.05 08:10:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Infy What about instead of fitting boat load of armor hardeners one would fit plates, about 3-4 x 1600mm plates?
Teh following fitting is possible:
7 x Mega Pulse II
1 x j5 warp disruptor 1 x Sensor Booster II 1 x Cap Recharger I
1 x Medium Armor Repper 3 x Heat Sink II 3 x 1600mm plate 1 x EANM II
It does nt repair damage, it soaks it 'till it pops 
If you wish, but do replace the cap recharger with a web or a 2nd SB. Replacing the EANM with a best named DC is also an option. It's great being Amarr, aint it? |
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volly
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Posted - 2006.12.05 08:25:00 -
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7x Mega Pulse II
Sensor Booster, Webber, Scrambler
2x EANII, 1x Damage Control, 2x HSII, 3x 1600Plate
Tight on CPU but it fits with AWU 4.
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Aeaus
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.12.05 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Bruminor III Edited by: Bruminor III on 05/12/2006 07:03:31 I dont know how you came up with that setup, but it doesn't come hardly close to fitting. The CPU usage is far beyond whats available.
EDIT - btw, it would be a good setup, and yes the FF array makes it a bit pricey.
Electronics V, Weapons Upgrade V, might be a good idea. 
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mallina
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.05 14:58:00 -
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the key to good geddon setups is NOT TO USE ENERGIZED ANMS but passive ones, plus using every last bit of PG you can.
this is the best ive found thus far:
Mega Pulse II Mega Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Heavy Diminshing NOS
Fleeting Web Warp Disruptor Heavy Cap Injector
Large Armor Rep 1600mm Tungsten 1600mm Tungsten Dark Blood Adaptive Nano Plating Dark Blood Adaptive Nano Plating Internal Force Field Array Heat Sink II Heat Sink II
5 Berserkers
if you cant find/afford DB(or TS) adaptive nanos (they're about 15mil odd last i checked) use 'Refuge' ones (best named), they're still better than tech 1 EANMs (at 15.3% or so) but faction ones are far superior, at 17.5% ----------- Turbulance |

DarkElf
Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2006.12.05 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: mallina the key to good geddon setups is NOT TO USE ENERGIZED ANMS but passive ones, plus using every last bit of PG you can.
this is the best ive found thus far:
Mega Pulse II Mega Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Heavy Diminshing NOS
Fleeting Web Warp Disruptor Heavy Cap Injector
Large Armor Rep 1600mm Tungsten 1600mm Tungsten Dark Blood Adaptive Nano Plating Dark Blood Adaptive Nano Plating Internal Force Field Array Heat Sink II Heat Sink II
5 Berserkers
if you cant find/afford DB(or TS) adaptive nanos (they're about 15mil odd last i checked) use 'Refuge' ones (best named), they're still better than tech 1 EANMs (at 15.3% or so) but faction ones are far superior, at 17.5%
EANM's are passive muppet. passive means don't need cap and don't have to be activated.
DE
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mallina
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.05 15:08:00 -
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you know what i meant. EANM IIs use 30 cpu for 20% resists. DB Anms use ZERO cpu for 17.5% resists. The Geddon is a bit good with them. ----------- Turbulance |

DarkElf
Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2006.12.05 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: mallina you know what i meant. EANM IIs use 30 cpu for 20% resists. DB Anms use ZERO cpu for 17.5% resists. The Geddon is a bit good with them.
yeah i figured u meant that. and ur totally right. especially the DB and TS one's with comp skills are nearly as good as the EANM's but with awesome fittings. and they're quite cheap for faction. i'm using these on a few ships right now.
DE
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Aeaus
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.12.05 15:13:00 -
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Originally by: mallina you know what i meant. EANM IIs use 30 cpu for 20% resists. DB Anms use ZERO cpu for 17.5% resists. The Geddon is a bit good with them.
What if you used a 3% implant and sacrified some of your guns to the dual heavys?
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mallina
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.05 15:18:00 -
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Then you'd be wasting 2,000 powergrid or so ----------- Turbulance |

Viktor VonCarstein
Amarr Phoenix Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Viktor VonCarstein on 05/12/2006 16:19:31 Edited by: Viktor VonCarstein on 05/12/2006 16:18:02 I use
High
7 x Dual Heavy Pulse II 1 x Med Diminishing
Med
1 x Heavy Electrochemical Cap Booster (800) 1 x J5 whatever 20km Scram 1 x X5 Web
Low
1 x LAR II 1 x EANM II 1 x N-Type EANM 2 x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten 1 x Internal Force Field Array 2 x HS II
5 x Ogre II
Maxed fitting skills inc AWU 5 and 3% reduced turret cpu hardwiring very cheap.
I don't like to mix gun types personally i.e. the DHP and MP combination.
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Tisanta
Amarr Privateers
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: mallina the key to good geddon setups is NOT TO USE ENERGIZED ANMS but passive ones, plus using every last bit of PG you can.
this is the best ive found thus far:
Mega Pulse II Mega Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Heavy Diminshing NOS
Fleeting Web Warp Disruptor Heavy Cap Injector
Large Armor Rep 1600mm Tungsten 1600mm Tungsten Dark Blood Adaptive Nano Plating Dark Blood Adaptive Nano Plating Internal Force Field Array Heat Sink II Heat Sink II
5 Berserkers
if you cant find/afford DB(or TS) adaptive nanos (they're about 15mil odd last i checked) use 'Refuge' ones (best named), they're still better than tech 1 EANMs (at 15.3% or so) but faction ones are far superior, at 17.5%
by far the best fitting ive seen so far, has enough tank and dps to ruin even the best ships ---

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DarkElf
Caldari DJ's Exotic Dancers Escorts
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:21:00 -
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yeah i normally don't mix weapon types but thinking it would work fine with those. might have to try that setup. surprised it all fits. 
DE
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Tisanta
Amarr Privateers
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Posted - 2006.12.05 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: DarkElf yeah i normally don't mix weapon types but thinking it would work fine with those. might have to try that setup. surprised it all fits. 
DE
eeek you dont mix weapon types?
as long as they arnt long range and short range mixing the weapon types doesnt have much effect, in some cases it increases your ability to win. ---

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Bruminor III
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Posted - 2006.12.05 17:07:00 -
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I have Electronics 5 and WU 4, level 5 is a difference of about 10 extra CPU. AWU 4 doesnt do anything for CPU.
This is something I also saw on the geddon thread, SETUPS THAT DO NOT WORK. Maybe quickfit is working, but in game does not. If I had WU5, it would still not fit, not even close.
The only setup that I consider "good" (and it's very specialized) is the one with a MAR.
Lastly, STOP USING QUICKFIT; I DONT WHATS WRONG WITH IT, BUT IT DOESNT REALLY WORK. THAT PROGRAM SUCKS.
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Aeaus
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2006.12.05 18:16:00 -
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Geddon [20625] PW [562.5] CPU (Electronics V, Engineering V)
7 x Dual Heavy Pulse II [10395] [220.5] 1 x Medium Diminishing [175] [20]
1 x Electrochemical [1750] [40] 2 x F-90 SB [2] [16]
2 x EANM [2] [60] 2 x ACCOM [4000] [92] 1 x Internal Force [1] [17] 3 x N-Type [3] [96]
[16328] PW [561.5] CPU
I'm sorry, what does not fit? This was done manually and not with the help of quickfit.
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Omega Bloodstone
Battlestars Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.05 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Tisanta
Originally by: mallina the key to good geddon setups is NOT TO USE ENERGIZED ANMS but passive ones, plus using every last bit of PG you can.
this is the best ive found thus far:
Mega Pulse II Mega Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Dual Heavy Pulse II Heavy Diminshing NOS
Fleeting Web Warp Disruptor Heavy Cap Injector
Large Armor Rep 1600mm Tungsten 1600mm Tungsten Dark Blood Adaptive Nano Plating Dark Blood Adaptive Nano Plating Internal Force Field Array Heat Sink II Heat Sink II
5 Berserkers
if you cant find/afford DB(or TS) adaptive nanos (they're about 15mil odd last i checked) use 'Refuge' ones (best named), they're still better than tech 1 EANMs (at 15.3% or so) but faction ones are far superior, at 17.5%
by far the best fitting ive seen so far, has enough tank and dps to ruin even the best ships
I have to agree with this setup. And different weapon types are fine as long as you set the ammo up in the guns to have the same, or roughly the same considering falloff, optimal range. Its not like you going to get a different damage type based on ammo with Amarr except for drones which are nice to the Geddon. I tried this with my Amarr Alt. I recommend :P It pwned...
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Alowishus
Shadow Company Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2006.12.05 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Bruminor III Lastly, STOP USING QUICKFIT; I DONT WHATS WRONG WITH IT, BUT IT DOESNT REALLY WORK. THAT PROGRAM SUCKS.

You're an idiot.
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Alowishus
Shadow Company Alektorophobia
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Posted - 2006.12.05 20:24:00 -
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I've been having a lot of success on SiSi with a passive tank.
4x MP II (Conflagration) 3x DHP II (Conflagration) 1x HDNos
1x Faint Disruptor 2x Eutectic Cap Recharger
3x 1600mm Rolled Tungsten 3x HS II 1x IFFA I 1x EANM II
5x Ogre II
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mallina
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.06 18:02:00 -
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Mixing guns is fine provided they're the same type of gun.
You would mix MP with DHP, just as you would mix Ion Blaster with Neutron Blaster, or 800mm AC with 625mm AC. There is a slight difference in range and tracking between them ofc, but in 95% of situations its not going to make a difference.
the point of doing it is to get as much out of your ship as you possibly can. Those 2 MPs on my Geddon increase my total DPS by roughly 5% compared to if they were DHP. That's an extra level of Large Energy Turret for nothing. ----------- Turbulance |

Tostibakker
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Posted - 2006.12.06 22:49:00 -
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7x Mega Pulse II 1x Medium Dim NOS
1x Heavy Electrochem Cap Booster 1x Balmer Tracking Disruptor 1x Fleeting Web
2x Heat Sink II 1x Internal Force Field Array 2x Large Accom Reps 2x DB Adaptive Nano 1x RCU II
Fits with -5% turret CPU implant, 0.16 CPU left. Also AWU4 
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God forbid
Amarr Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.03.10 23:57:00 -
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Here is my New Armageddon Setup..
Armageddon
7 DPH T2
1 Heavy Capacitor Booster II 1 Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I/Sensor Booster T2 1 Faint Warp
2 Large Armor Repairer II 1 N-Type Explosive Hardener I/True Sansha 1 N-Type Kinetic Hardener I/True Sansha 1 Dark Blood Adaptive Nano Plating 1 Damage Control II 1 Heat Sink II 1 Heat Sink II
Rigs : Energy Collision Accelerator I \ Anti-Thermic Pump I \ Auxiliary Nano Pump I \
5 T2 Heavy
8301 armor, E/T/K/Ex=73/70/74/73 835.5 DPS
Quote: "Dont Be too Cool for your Mam"
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