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SUNscatcher
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Posted - 2003.11.18 20:00:00 -
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Ok this isn't a lets discuss the merits thread but I was wondering, and maybe some others where too, which way would the player base go in the following situation.
""Lets assume"" that ccp really did just run a "live beta" test for the past 6 months and has gotten the game to where they feel its balanced and running the way they want it too.
CCP announces that when they begin the new marketing campaign in ernest they will be opening a new server to support this launch.
The new server will be exactly the same as the one we are currently playing on with the exception that the map has been changed and all new accounts will be playing there. Any current accounts switching over will be starting at ground zero.
The question is, How many players here would switch over to the new server for a fresh start and how many would never give up what they have already gained playing through a live beta experience or how many would buy another account and play both?
to sum up the logical choices:
A) switch to new server for a fresh start
B) never switch over
C) buy another account and play in both universes If you can catch me you can have me. |

Viceroy
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Posted - 2003.11.18 20:01:00 -
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I'd quit. EVE is good cause its one universe, one server. -
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Halo Jones
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Posted - 2003.11.18 20:07:00 -
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i'd quit too
Oberon Incorporated. |

Main
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Posted - 2003.11.18 20:10:00 -
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I'd quit too, 2 bad universes are twice as bad as 1. Main Everlasting Vendetta Veteran Member of the Stain Alliance |

Olag Gan
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Posted - 2003.11.18 20:17:00 -
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I'd quit. EVE is unique in MMORPG's in that we all play in the same game world. If it goes the way of a multi-shard game like UO, I'm outta here.
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Ana Khouri
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Posted - 2003.11.18 20:27:00 -
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I'd quit, too. Would be like a slap in the face.
free speech not allowed here |

Ganja
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Posted - 2003.11.18 20:29:00 -
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I'q quit too..
But your assumptions are null.. as you can tell this isn't a live beta test because they've been bringing in new content, story line, etc..
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2003.11.18 20:29:00 -
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Everyone who has been around a while would quit. However, ccp would never do somethign quite that daft. _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
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dethnel
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Posted - 2003.11.18 21:02:00 -
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i would wait until everyone else quit, then when i'm the last player standing i'd declare myself the winner! ...then i'd quit.
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Squirrel
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Posted - 2003.11.18 21:06:00 -
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Edited by: Squirrel on 18/11/2003 21:06:43 i would definately quit...
_______________________________________________ Carfax > guys, please dont pvp here, it messes up the avoid pd kill zones autopilot option |

Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2003.11.18 21:07:00 -
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Can I have your stuff?
(sorry, couldn't resist)
There's no meaning to life when you cling only to common sense |

Aethelgrin
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Posted - 2003.11.18 21:14:00 -
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EVE needs to be a one server system.
That said, your suggestion is a one server system, as all the new players would be forced to play on the new server. It's just the same as if they kept the existing server and did a playerwipe (which they would never do, so there's no way they'd do something that has exactly the same effect).
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Erai
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Posted - 2003.11.18 21:22:00 -
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I'd keep to this server for a while, then, after a couple of weeks, discover that Eve on two shards isn't half as much fun, and then quit. ------------------------------------------ My bio
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2003.11.18 21:23:00 -
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I would quit.
Unless i get to keep my char :)
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Rohann
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Posted - 2003.11.18 21:26:00 -
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Quote: i would wait until everyone else quit, then when i'm the last player standing i'd declare myself the winner! ...then i'd quit.
I would wait for me and her to be alone so i could keep podding her til she quit. Then I would quit.
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Cargo Container
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Posted - 2003.11.18 21:29:00 -
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Quote: i would wait until everyone else quit, then when i'm the last player standing i'd declare myself the winner! ...then i'd quit.
i bet you quit before me 
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alar1c
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Posted - 2003.11.18 21:43:00 -
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A) switch to new server for a fresh start
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Halseth Durn
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Posted - 2003.11.18 21:52:00 -
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Quit, then sue CCP for false advertising. 
Oberon-Inc FEAR MY EMOTICONS |

Gan Ning
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Posted - 2003.11.18 22:03:00 -
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OMG if EVE even began to smell anything like Earth and Beyond I'd quit and jump over a bridge. |

SUNscatcher
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Posted - 2003.11.18 22:44:00 -
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Interpreting "I QUIT" as meaning what? A hypothetical situation with three possible outcomes given and you select a fourth. Why not quit now since the chances of new players is none existant or haven't you been reading any of the recent reviews? Just because Hellmar is boasing about eve doesn't mean anyone else is.
This is a good example of the immaturity of eve players. Ask a simple question and instant the IF I can't have it my way crowd shows up and starts spouting bullsh*t.
If you have the ability to read the reread the post and you will see that I clearly stated this wasnt' a discussion thread. If you can catch me you can have me. |

Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.11.18 22:49:00 -
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Edited by: Jash Illian on 18/11/2003 22:50:33
Quote: Interpreting "I QUIT" as meaning what? A hypothetical situation with three possible outcomes given and you select a fourth. Why not quit now since the chances of new players is none existant or haven't you been reading any of the recent reviews? Just because Hellmar is boasing about eve doesn't mean anyone else is.
This is a good example of the immaturity of eve players. Ask a simple question and instant the IF I can't have it my way crowd shows up and starts spouting bullsh*t.
If you have the ability to read the reread the post and you will see that I clearly stated this wasnt' a discussion thread.
People have invested 6 months into the game. 6 months that they paid for. To arbitrarily nullify that investment, an investment they paid real money for the priviledge of investing real time, would be the most callous thing CCP could do.
You're batting a thousand on understanding the principles of investment today, SUNscatcher.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

SUNscatcher
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Posted - 2003.11.18 23:14:00 -
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Here you are once again jumping into a thread and spouting how you know it all. What does non discussion mean in your pea sized brain?
If you can catch me you can have me. |

Ganja
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Posted - 2003.11.18 23:23:00 -
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Quote: Interpreting "I QUIT" as meaning what? A hypothetical situation with three possible outcomes given and you select a fourth. Why not quit now since the chances of new players is none existant or haven't you been reading any of the recent reviews? Just because Hellmar is boasing about eve doesn't mean anyone else is.
This is a good example of the immaturity of eve players. Ask a simple question and instant the IF I can't have it my way crowd shows up and starts spouting bullsh*t.
If you have the ability to read the reread the post and you will see that I clearly stated this wasnt' a discussion thread.
Don't jump out of a plane without a parachute and expect to land on the ground without a scratch.
In other words, you can't post on such a topic and not expect people to voice their word.. but as far as I can see, your the only one getting mad, immature, and saying such foul things! (lol)..
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Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.11.18 23:30:00 -
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Edited by: Veruna Caseti on 18/11/2003 23:31:25
Quote: People have invested 6 months into the game. 6 months that they paid for. To arbitrarily nullify that investment, an investment they paid real money for the priviledge of investing real time, would be the most callous thing CCP could do.
Didn't you just get done arguing that you and a "lot of others" would risk the complete loss of all your skillpoints in a championship battle just for the chance at a blueprint or reward?
Didn't you also argue that it's "just a game" and that people would be perfectly willing to be newbies again because they understand how to have fun?
Now suddenly if CCP jeopardizes this 6 month investment it's the "most callous thing [they] could do?"
What happened to all your friends who would gladly be newbies again? They seem to have disappeared and been replaced with a very vocal "I would quit immediately" crowd. 
Granted, I don't think they should open a new server either but I find it humorous that you totally understate the importance of the "6 month investment" in one thread and in another say that to threaten it would be an unforgivable offense.
Veruna Caseti Ishukone |

VirusX
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Posted - 2003.11.18 23:36:00 -
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Edited by: VirusX on 18/11/2003 23:38:27
Quote: i would wait until everyone else quit, then when i'm the last player standing i'd declare myself the winner! ...then i'd quit.
You are the best! :)
[EDIT] However, I'd quit, unless CCP gives me 12 months of free playing (twice for the disturb) [/EDIT] ____________________________
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.11.18 23:38:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Veruna Caseti on 18/11/2003 23:31:25
Quote: People have invested 6 months into the game. 6 months that they paid for. To arbitrarily nullify that investment, an investment they paid real money for the priviledge of investing real time, would be the most callous thing CCP could do.
Didn't you just get done arguing that you and a "lot of others" would risk the complete loss of all your skillpoints in a championship battle just for the chance at a blueprint or reward?
Didn't you also argue that it's "just a game" and that people would be perfectly willing to be newbies again because they understand how to have fun?
Now suddenly if CCP jeopardizes this 6 month investment it's the "most callous thing [they] could do?"
What happened to all your friends who would gladly be newbies again? They seem to have disappeared and been replaced with a very vocal "I would quit immediately" crowd. 
Granted, I don't think they should open a new server either but I find it humorous that you totally understate the importance of the "6 month investment" in one thread and in another say that to threaten it would be an unforgivable offense.
Difference: Choice. I'd choose to enter the contest.
Now quit being a twip. Or are you really this stupid?
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |

Veruna Caseti
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Posted - 2003.11.19 00:07:00 -
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Quote: Or are you really this stupid?
If I were, would I know?
Choice or not, you're flaming SUNscatcher about "understanding the principles of investment" which is exactly what you claimed was not important when I brought it up in the other thread. I said "the risk of the investment would not be worth the reward" and you started in about that's because I'm too weak and stupid to fight, and that plenty of people would gladly give up their skillpoints for the chance at glory - but now we see how valuable people do actually find their skillpoints and I was right, most people would quit rather than face the prospect of being at 0SP again.
The fact that you chose to throw them all away isn't going to make a right lot of difference two weeks down the line when you're tooling around Todaki in your Probe pounding Veldspar with two Miner Is.
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In the interest of not ganking this thread lets just forget about it. I agree that opening a new server would be a huge mistake; the single world design is one of the many things that makes EVE unique in the MMOG genre, and I feel one of its greatest strengths. Now if we can only make it so people can't hide behind their alts we can truly have a universe where everyone is coexisting, working to build and maintain fame or infamy, and reaping the rewards or consequences for their actions.
Veruna Caseti Ishukone |

SUNscatcher
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Posted - 2003.11.19 00:29:00 -
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Quote: Ok this isn't a lets discuss the merits thread but I was wondering, and maybe some others where too, which way would the player base go in the following situation.
""Lets assume""
As in many threads that I have posted, when people aren't interested in the subject ... they just leave. I thought I made it clear that this was just a simple poll of a hypothetical situation and expected those that didn't think it would be fun to participate .... would just leave.
You know. My biggest complaint with eve is many of the people who just have to jump in and try and spoil other peoples fun. Granted this in my first MMO so I have never been in a game with a player base this large but it stinks that people have nothing better to do than try and spoil it for others. If you can catch me you can have me. |

Gan Howorth
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Posted - 2003.11.19 00:50:00 -
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Er... but even in a hypothetical scenario, you should at least give a realistic set of options. e.g. I would quit, being one of them.
If you insist on restricting the vote to unrealistic choices then l guess l go for: "None of the above"
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SUNscatcher
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Posted - 2003.11.19 01:12:00 -
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To be honest with you Gan "I would quit" was something that never occured to me and still makes no sense(as far as the hypothetical question posed goes). I would have to interpret it to mean that there are a large number of players who would leave eve if there came a time when no new players were coming into the game. Logically that is the only thing that makes sense givin the hypothetical situation I set up. We could very possibly be in that situation today. Americans as a group have not responded to this game as well as Europeans have. Who says asians will either. If you can catch me you can have me. |
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