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Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.06 12:50:00 - [1] Originally by: ifeelit2 and if this were a PvP only game the devs would have not put in the mission running system... so get off your PvP or get out of EVE 'Bull' if the Devs wanted you for their marketing dept they would pay you This is a PvP game. There are lots of PvE activities, but these all occur in a PvP universe. If people "grief" your hi-sec missions, the solution is war-dec them. If you can't because they are in a NPC corp (or you are), then maybe that is actually the issue that needs to be looked in to? The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.06 12:59:00 - [2] Originally by: ifeelit2 then tell me... why is there concord and why are they set to react the way they do in sectors higher than .4... you are incorrect that this is a PvE in a PvP game... it is a PvE game with PvP opportunities... otherwise all rules would in 1.0 and .9 systems... the rest would be 0.0... get off of it... your post does not hold water sorry You are wrong. If it was a PvE game then Concord would prevent PvP in Hi-Sec space. Do they? No. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.06 13:04:00 - [3] Edited by: Avon on 06/12/2006 13:04:06 Yes I will be Concordokken'd, but you will be dead. Will Concord have prevented the PvP? No, absolutely not. In a PvE game I wouldn't even be able to shoot at you in the first place. You are allowed to PvP anywhere in Eve, you just have to be willing to accept the consequences. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.06 13:12:00 - [4] I don't even think taking "mission critical" loot is griefing, more a marketing opportunity. If I was doing this stuff you would certainly expect to see those "mission critical" drops on escrow, priced to compensate me for the time and effort I had put in to assisting with the mission. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.06 14:22:00 - [5] Originally by: Sendraks Originally by: Avon I don't even think taking "mission critical" loot is griefing, more a marketing opportunity. No it is griefing as there is no way to stop you from taking the loot. You're really not very quick at picking this point up are you. But then, you don't appear to be well equipped to actually listen to reason or accept valid arguments when hurled repeatedly at you. Do you have tech 2 argument resists fitted that prevent any sense from penetrating your thick ego? Do I need some sort of Tech 2 Sense Busting torpedo to get through to you? Or will you just continue to post in the manner of "lalalala not listening!" ? Thanks for the personal attack, I'm glad you think I'm worth the time. And you can stop someone taking the loot, but you choose not to because of the consequences. Those consequences are your choice because you picked the security level of the system you choose to mission in. Stop blaming other players for your failings. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.06 14:35:00 - [6] Edited by: Avon on 06/12/2006 14:38:38 Originally by: Eve-Online website frontpage Aug 2000 But EVE is more than just dealing with the Empires; they're just the top of the iceberg. Underneath it all, at the core of the game, players are dealing with one another. Good or bad relations, nice or nasty - it doesn't matter. The fact that you're competing and cooperating with thousands of other like-minded players, makes EVE more than a game; it's an experience; an alternative reality where you pit your alter-ego against real people all over the world. Bold added. Eve is unusual in that player may choose to be "the bad guys" in a way that actually affects other players. It is one of the very basic elements on which Eve is built. Now, some people do not like that, they don't want other people to be able to interfere with their gameplay without their prior consent. They think it "unfair" or "low", and dislike those players (and as we have seen, not just the characters, but they actually extrapolate their views to the people behind them) Well, you are not supposed to like the "bad guys". Seek your revenge, or turn tail and run, whatever you want. It is this interaction that makes Eve interesting. So long as players stay within the game rules, then "illegal" actions are all part of the game. If you object, go something about it IN GAME. If you want to be a "good guy", act like one. Eve is a game. It contains a wide variety of characters and playstyle - and they often come in to conflict. This is good. Play the game. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.06 15:03:00 - [7] Originally by: Lord Frost I think Avon means, just yell at the guy in game local and he'll stop. Well, that might work, but I wouldn't pin my hopes on it. (Still worth a try). Warp out, let him deal with the NPC's War dec his corp. (And if he is in an NPC corp, that is a whole different issue which DOES need addressing). Gank him, and use an alt to get your goodies back (hell, they do it afterall, right?) Just because you can't stop him taking loot from NPC's which he has gone to the effort of killing, does not mean you can not get even. Ultimately, however, he is protected by Concord because you want to work somewhere where you are protected by Concord. As already mentioned elsewhere, it is a double edged sword. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.06 15:09:00 - [8] Originally by: Lord Frost Having an alt is not an acceptable counter... LOL. I agree. I think you are reading the words but not actually grasping the meaning. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Avon Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.06 15:16:00 - [9] Originally by: ifeelit2 first off they usually have the PvP experience, the ship equiped for PvP and a better ship... usually T2 ships. Sorry, let me get this straight. If the other guy is better than you, CCP should step in to help? The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur

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