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Harisdrop Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.07 13:25:00 - [1] I think we have a solution to keeping noobs safe and letting them learn about EVE. With the new Wrecks and great missions we have we can now let noobs get standings to start thier progression into the PVP of EVE. No more will there be griefers that would want to be in Noob corps. No more will players feel they can be safe and rich in Noob corps. This need to be done immediately. Sooner the better. NOW ------------------------------------- If shares where items the stock market would occur in EVE instantly. Starbase Charters Gallente
Genericforumalt Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2006.12.07 13:26:00 - [2] right, good luck with that then
Nero Scuro Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.12.07 13:28:00 - [3] Erm, a 100% might be a little extreme. Maybe 50%. You can still remain safe behind the newb corp but you'll be shooting yourself in the foot financially, but the newbs still have an opportunity to earn a little ISK before heading out into that big corporate world. ___ The world isn't going to end; we're not that lucky...
Harisdrop Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.07 13:37:00 - [4] Edited by: Harisdrop on 07/12/2006 13:38:43 Originally by: Nero Scuro Erm, a 100% might be a little extreme. Maybe 50%. You can still remain safe behind the newb corp but you'll be shooting yourself in the foot financially, but the newbs still have an opportunity to earn a little ISK before heading out into that big corporate world. Why would you do anything but 100% they can earn more mining than doing missions. You dont want them there to live safe and free. Remember these guys are one month old and we want them to enjoy EVE. Isk making does not occur until you find your own way away from the mother EMPIRE corporations and go off on your own.I think our main problem is that we have players getting a free ride that are not noobs. I think its time to let the EMPIRE pay for the concord protection. They have Concord and Navy protection they should pay for it. ------------------------------------- If shares where items the stock market would occur in EVE instantly. Starbase Charters Gallente
Vasiliyan PAX Interstellar Services Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.12.07 14:02:00 - [5] 100% is ludicrous. 10% is reasonable. Note that 100% tax won't stop the griefers, they earn their money elsewhere. It won't touch macrominers either.
Harisdrop Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.07 14:05:00 - [6] Originally by: Vasiliyan 100% is ludicrous. 10% is reasonable. Note that 100% tax won't stop the griefers, they earn their money elsewhere. It won't touch macrominers either. I am not solving the whole problem only the Mission Runner whine problem. I think they need to do one thing at a time. Start with mission runners. ------------------------------------- If shares where items the stock market would occur in EVE instantly. Starbase Charters Gallente
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.07 14:06:00 - [7] I would be all for a 10% or 15% tax on NPC corps. Its pretty much the standard of all corps in EVE- if you want to avoid the tax, you can always make your own corp. I always did wonder why the NPC corps would miss this trick- every government in the world in RL has a tax of some sort to raise money from their inhabitants- why not EVE governments? -----------------------------------------------
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.12.07 14:11:00 - [8] The only problem with it is corp hopping. They'll make a one man corp and with every new war dec a new one. In the end we have 1-man corps with names like 'fgfgfdgf', 'shdgkehwui' etc. lool. CTD/con-loss vs. log-out. A proposal for a fix.
Kuriatai Gallente	Posted - 2006.12.07 14:13:00 - [9] Oh yay, the same old tired crap of forcing others to play the game your way. Enough already. Commander USS Turtle U-1 Unknown, unauthorized, and first of that class
Harisdrop Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.07 14:14:00 - [10] I wonder how many NPC corporation players will want anything higher than 0%. I sure like to put that to a vote!!! Hey think of this a 1k bounty rate at 10% is 100 isk. The noobs wont care about that. Heck a 100% on 1000 isk rat is not even worth the items that are in the can and the wreck. They should be happy they get cans and wrecks with no risk of being shot. ------------------------------------- If shares where items the stock market would occur in EVE instantly. Starbase Charters Gallente
Harisdrop Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.07 14:16:00 - [11] Originally by: Plutoinum The only problem with it is corp hopping. They'll make a one man corp and with every new war dec a new one. In the end we have 1-man corps with names like 'fgfgfdgf', 'shdgkehwui' etc. lool. Cant stop that until CCP decides that NPC corporations are not for players that are not doing the tutorial. Maybe they tie you to the tutorial if your in a NPC corporation. Once you click finish on the tutorial you are placed in the economy of 100% tax on bounties and mission isk. ------------------------------------- New NPC
nickky01 Viziam	Posted - 2006.12.07 14:17:00 - [12] Originally by: Harisdrop I think we have a solution to keeping noobs safe and letting them learn about EVE. With the new Wrecks and great missions we have we can now let noobs get standings to start thier progression into the PVP of EVE. No more will there be griefers that would want to be in Noob corps. No more will players feel they can be safe and rich in Noob corps. This need to be done immediately. Sooner the better. NOW as the self appointed leader of viziam, i hereby announce that we are coming for D2 after we take over the south. -------------------------- this is my main :(
Harisdrop Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.07 14:19:00 - [13] You have to get thru TOXIN first and good luck on that. ------------------------------------- New NPC
Zebler Four Horsemen	Posted - 2006.12.07 14:22:00 - [14] When you have had a bad idea, and people have explained why......its just time to let it go

wystler Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.12.07 14:59:00 - [15] Your idea would have no effect on a player who is hiding in a NPC corp just hauling etc, as they will just trade it back to their main in a corp, since direct trades are not taxed. This doesn't even cover new players who mine for skill books and ships to learn the game, and get taxed 100%! How are they ever to learn if they like the game and what kind of game play they want if they have zero money to do it? eve-crc.net \| forum rules \| [email protected] Official keeper of the smilie. Yarr!

Snarls McGee	Posted - 2006.12.07 15:15:00 - [16] Just when I think I've seen the dumbest post ever, the OP types again..
Karunel Princeps Corp	Posted - 2006.12.07 15:18:00 - [17] Waste of DB space. Originally by: elbenito The problem with large fleet engagements is that the hamsters stop to watch.
Harisdrop Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.07 15:32:00 - [18] Edited by: Harisdrop on 07/12/2006 15:37:28 Originally by: wystler Your idea would have no effect on a player who is hiding in a NPC corp just hauling etc, as they will just trade it back to their main in a corp, since direct trades are not taxed. This doesn't even cover new players who mine for skill books and ships to learn the game, and get taxed 100%! How are they ever to learn if they like the game and what kind of game play they want if they have zero money to do it? I try to think that mission runners hiding in NPC corps is worse. I think i said directly its Mission rewards and bounties. I hope noobs are mining thier hearts out. ------------------------------------- New NPC
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2006.12.07 15:37:00 - [19] Edited by: Akita T on 07/12/2006 15:38:52 Remember, nothing below 50k ISK gets taxed, so from a 45,000 ISK bounty player still gets 45,000 ISK. Only when bounty or mission reward goes to or above 50,000 does the tax rate sring in. Also, time bonus rewards didn't use to get taxed, and even if most (if not all) bonus rewards are ISK instead of items, I think they're still not taxed. So all in all, a 5% to 20% tax on NPC corps would be a good thing. The more players in a NPC corp, the HIGHER the tax rate (to promote people moving out at least once, after they start "feeling" the tax rate, and that would only be when they start running L3 missions, or even only L4s). BUT WHAT THE HECK TO DO WITH THOSE SIPHONED ISK IN THE FIRST PLACE ? Now, if NPC corp shares would become "publicly traded", and players could purchase them, getting monthly dividends from the tax rate... now, THAT would be something. /me wants to play the stockmarket ! _____ -sig- This is my only char. These are my skills Always question everything, including yourself
JeanPierre Gallente Acheron Vanguard Armada The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.12.07 15:40:00 - [20] Why not refrain from trying to social engineer the actions you dislike others peacefully taking? ------------------------------ Ever notice that people who spend money on beer, cigarettes, and lottery tickets are always complaining about being broke and not feeling well?
Patch86 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.07 15:44:00 - [21] Originally by: Harisdrop I wonder how many NPC corporation players will want anything higher than 0%. I sure like to put that to a vote!!! Hey think of this a 1k bounty rate at 10% is 100 isk. The noobs wont care about that. Heck a 100% on 1000 isk rat is not even worth the items that are in the can and the wreck. They should be happy they get cans and wrecks with no risk of being shot. Well the taxes don't even get applied to any bounties smaller than about 35k isk anyway. -----------------------------------------------
Harisdrop Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.07 15:44:00 - [22] Originally by: JeanPierre Why not refrain from trying to social engineer the actions you dislike others peacefully taking? I guess if your asking. If mission runners can make scan probes harder I might have a chance. ------------------------------------- New NPC
Harisdrop Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.07 15:45:00 - [23] Originally by: Patch86 Originally by: Harisdrop I wonder how many NPC corporation players will want anything higher than 0%. I sure like to put that to a vote!!! Hey think of this a 1k bounty rate at 10% is 100 isk. The noobs wont care about that. Heck a 100% on 1000 isk rat is not even worth the items that are in the can and the wreck. They should be happy they get cans and wrecks with no risk of being shot. Well the taxes don't even get applied to any bounties smaller than about 35k isk anyway. I had forgotten I normally dont look at the wallet anymore. ------------------------------------- New NPC
Radioactive Babe	Posted - 2006.12.07 15:48:00 - [24] Originally by: Harisdrop absolute and complete ******s aaaaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa big breath* aaaaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaa you know what, I really did laugh hard at the sheer stupidity displayed in that post and subsequent ones endorsing it ... you people are funny ... but hey guys, come back to the other thread, your weak witted and pointless posts and trolling has let that flamesfest degrade into a discussion alas, poor risk vs reward, I knew you well
Rhorx Minmatar Black Thorne Corporation	Posted - 2006.12.07 16:03:00 - [25] As a quite recent n00b I thought I'd chip in my 2 isk. I started this character with no desire to mine minerals and made my way through EvE as a fighter based pilot. I took my time looking for a good player corp (and found one) so in that whole time I shouldn't have been allowed to make money other than shooting rocks?
Kaathar Rielspar Minmatar	Posted - 2006.12.07 16:06:00 - [26] are mission runners the new group to hate or something? ____________________ Originally by: Jerick Ludhowe Originally by: Eximius Josari If BS Sized HACs would be overpowered, what are HACs? Overpriced Nos victims.
Harisdrop Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.07 17:01:00 - [27] Originally by: Rhorx As a quite recent n00b I thought I'd chip in my 2 isk. I started this character with no desire to mine minerals and made my way through EvE as a fighter based pilot. I took my time looking for a good player corp (and found one) so in that whole time I shouldn't have been allowed to make money other than shooting rocks? Its been noted that rats less than 35k are exempt. Thats level 2 rats. You could do level 2 missions till you found a good corp and you would get your isk tax free. Also most of your skills are less than a million. There will be a time when you need to really get into the rest of the game. ------------------------------------- New NPC
opie2	Posted - 2006.12.07 17:12:00 - [28] WHY dont you go play your game huh? and let people who want to play there game play theres. They pay just as much as anyone else to be in there npc corps MIND YOUR OWN BUSSINESS.
Arcticblue2 Gallente Nordic Freelancers inc	Posted - 2006.12.07 17:21:00 - [29] Originally by: Harisdrop I am not solving the whole problem only the Mission Runner whine problem. I think they need to do one thing at a time. Start with mission runners. I think you have misunderstood something ... it is not missionrunners how whine... but pirates. The pirates have whined because there is less targets in low sec!!! in other word, missionrunners adapted to the changes, pirates did not. Do you want to tax 100% on piracy now too maybe ? ---------------------------------------------- "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things." 1 cor.
The Enslaver Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.07 17:28:00 - [30] Nah, no tax. At least, not at the beginning. Have NPC corp tax change based on how long you have spent in an NPC corp. 0% for the first week, increasing by 10% per week, with it remembering how long you have spent in NPC corps in total in your time playing, so you can't just leave and rejoin. That would work tbh. --------

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