Don't know about faction navy mechanics eh?

navy police can be tanked in a proper ship


there's also away to avoid them but can't remember 100% how .. .prolly much like concord .. ge them to spawn somewhere else in same system then warp back ... rinse and repeat .. again not 100% sure as i've never done the elite high sec hub camping .. thing..

To avoid the somehow high dps and being jammed I think they tank the navy with a drone being repped or like I saw in Hek with an alt in a very tanky ship to take aggro. Dunno.

1 they use a rattlesnake with a single drone somewhere in space. Most of the time at dock range of an other station or inside a pos force field while drones are outside.

2 the rattlesnake pilot uses his drone to attack the navy spaw, that spawn start shooting the drone.

3 Some neutral bs then start remote rep, shield, structure the drone and NOT the rattlesnake ... worst ... they are not flagged. The drone has heavy tank because of rattlesnake bonus

4 the single drone can tank the faction police.

5 others gallente militia come near the rattlesnake with their own faction spawn.

6 faction spawn switch target to the rattlesnake, if needed the ratllesnake pilot engage each spawn to gain full aggro.

7 others militia pilots are no immune to faction spaw and can now shot every one at undock, they even can afford to use a frigate which one would be insta poped without that exploit

8 you can add more gallente pilots as long as you add neutral bs to increase the amount of dmg taken by the sentry drone

http://i.imgur.com/kvW8Gki.png

you can see the imperial navy curator taking damage / Faceless Parmala is the rattlesnake pilot / all others bs pilots are neutral

Reported to ccp from months, seems they don't care or should be considered as a valid tactic
Still waiting an official answer !!!

This is clearly an exploit, is obviously stupid and needs to be fixed.

Why would you even have faction police in the game if they aren't going to do anything? Just delete them if that is the case, they are cluttering up my screen with their false presence.

get a alt in a super cheap but super fast frig...
enter enemy system with alt... warp 100 to random planet and start burning...
enemy NPC's will try (and fail to catch up) with your fast alt..
Now your main does not need to worry about NPC's as they are all busy trying to catch the first fast frig..

As if we can't tell the difference between aggression and harmlessly floating around that gate, FFS Crosi you are the most unreasonable person I've ever seen on these forums. These cruisers were sitting right on the gate they didn't warp in and I held my cloak for nearly the full duration while I watched them float around unharmed. If you don't know what's going on then don't comment about it honestly.

And newsflash, ccp didn't invent the word exploit. Lol. What are you like 13 years old? Just because ccp doesn't declare something an exploit in their game rules doesn't mean the normal usage of the word exploit doesn't apply.

Honestly you have some serious growing up to do, you are like a two year old child trying to always get his way.

Excuse me if i dont believe you are competent enough to recognise what was going on. Specially with how wrong and ill informed you have been over a multitude of eve related subjects. And then how you glossed over every single example as though you knew it all along lol.

While i dont scorn you for this, eve is a complex game after all, but the sheer bold faced ignorance you display does get tiring.

I have camped the same gate, with the same people and find it highly unlikely that they are abusing some unknown mechanic because its simply easy enough to do it without.

Until CCP rules on an abuse of mechanics it is not an exploit. If any abuse of mechanics is kept secret from CCP that is banable.
I believe CCP is already aware of all abuse of NPC mechanics and everything is currently ok to use as they have not declared them an exploit.

Feel free to go on about what exploit means in different contexts, im not sure how productive that will be since we are talking about EVE and CCP are perfectly clear on how they use the word.

Oh yes, because your own knowledge and skills have demonstrated your intellectual abilities and how superior they are to my own. Quality posts from you such as "you can't build a titan out of incursion loot" and "I'm going to have my dog pilot my links".

The only ability I've seen from you so far is your ability to pay ccp more money for in game advantages.

The word exploit means what it means. CCP decides what you get banned for in eve online, not the definition of the word exploit. This is a stupid deflection on the issue.

My suggestion to you is to refrain from the smart ass comments while posting stuff like this. But you're free to make yourself look however you want.

My suggestion to you is to refrain from the smart ass comments while posting stuff like this. But you're free to make yourself look however you want.

As i have already said, your use of the word exploit was misplaced since the activities listed are not considered exploiting by CCP. If CCP declared these actions exploitation, using them would be banable.

In all these cases you argue with me as a proxy for CCP. Im just telling you how it is, if you have a problem with that you had best speak with CCP themselves.

I know you are fighting hard to remain ignorant. Im just trying to help you adhere to correct terminology so you dont get confused and can better articulate your constant whining.

I can demonstrate superior knowledge than your own if you wish.

A long long time ago in a faction warfare that was but weeks old....you could still fly into high sec hostile space and gank players. I myself dual accounted a destroyer and frigate to Amarr Prime and killed a few pilots, they were quite surprised. The navies chased you around constantly so you had to kill something in a few seconds and warp.

The important part of this story is that back in those days, this was ONLY possible with frigs and destroyers, because each person that entered hostile space spawned an NPC Navy fleet for EACH player. I told a Minnie FC of my antics in high sec and (for science) we took a 70 man fleet of various ships into amarr high sec to begin an assault. Every single one of our ships died, a Navy was spawned for EACH person in the fleet. Much amusement was had at our massacre.

Sometime after this CCP changed the mechanics, so that players could indeed enter hostile high sec space, but at great risk to themselves, but there wouldn't be a navy spawning for each player. The current mechanics are intended and rewards those players that can tank and/or distract the now limited naval fleets of npc hostile space. Not only has this made FW more fun, it's more realistic than seeing several hundred NPC's spawn to deal with a fleet.

I haven't been in FW for sometime, but it sounds like those changes are still current and they are intended. This isn't an exploit, you just clearly aren't old enough to remember when and why these changes were introduced. I don't know if they made changes to this again in that time, but from what I have read in the thread they still seem to be in force.

So do us a favour eh? Stop assuming and making an ass out of u and not me.

So his contribution was a well informed comment on why the mechanics are like they are, and your contribution to the topic was to call something an exploit that by CCPs own definition is not an exploit.

As for the definition itself. Its often useful to recognise the context in which words are used. For example, the word 'theory' has a much different meaning in day to day vernacular than it does in a scientific context. By the same token, the implications of calling something an exploit in EVE as apposed to its dictionary definition of ' to make use of meanly or unfairly for one's own advantage' have different connotations.

In eve, an exploit will get you banned, but ' to make use of meanly or unfairly for one's own advantage' is the name of the game. So as you can see, the straight-up dictionary definition is less than useless here.

I know eve is a hard game to walk into, but your attitude of not wanting to learn or improve your understanding will get you nowhere. If you want everything to be fair and rainbow coloured, theres other games out there for you.