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Tsurako
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Posted - 2006.12.07 19:18:00 -
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Edited by: Tsurako on 07/12/2006 19:22:23 Found this on Digg
Quote: This is why you don't try to price gouge people who work for you. A particularly ambitious EvE Online player who was dissatisfied with the upper management of his corporation stole around 17 billion ISK worth of assets from his in-game employers, probably worth around $12,000 USD!
Ignoring the fact that Digg were a decimal point out ( ), this sounds like an interesting tale. Can anyone confirm or deny it?
Moved from General Discussion - Serathu ([email protected])
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Lisentia
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Posted - 2006.12.07 19:21:00 -
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Edited by: Lisentia on 07/12/2006 19:22:09 Here's some form of confirmation, it's the person who did it posting it on somethingawful's forums
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2211753&perpage=40&pagenumber=1
Edit: Oops, on alt, but it doesn't matter.
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Deitre Cibrus
Chickens with an Attitude
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Posted - 2006.12.07 19:21:00 -
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Doubtful there no big story behind it unlike GH-SC Impoc Scam or EIB(or w/e it was) scam -----------
Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread.
What is this sig missing? Pretty colours? -Conuion |

Deitre Cibrus
Chickens with an Attitude
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Posted - 2006.12.07 19:22:00 -
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Lisenta then posts a big story lol:P -----------
Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread.
What is this sig missing? Pretty colours? -Conuion |

Laythun
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.07 19:27:00 -
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Not a scam, just corp theft.
par for the course, nothing special.
CEI's own Undercover Brother It's great being Amarr, aint it?Ц |

Luigi Thirty
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.07 19:28:00 -
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I already tried getting money from him :( ---- DOMINIX IS INVINCIBLE:(((( |

Deitre Cibrus
Chickens with an Attitude
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Posted - 2006.12.07 19:29:00 -
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Aye unfortunately this is nothing special.. great in ISK value but it's just the run-of-the-mill kinda thing -----------
Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread.
What is this sig missing? Pretty colours? -Conuion |

Chronus26
Gallente Dark Blood Contracts
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Posted - 2006.12.07 19:39:00 -
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Heh, if the corp in question is really as evil and nasty as that guy says then I say good on him. -----
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.07 19:39:00 -
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Heh, I suppose that'll learn them not to **** of their corp members.......................
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Ralmondad
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Posted - 2006.12.07 19:40:00 -
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Aye, but if AAA can take advantage of it and put a dent into AXE... then this Corp theft would have had a real effect on balance of power. |

Skyrock
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Posted - 2006.12.07 19:42:00 -
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25b is nothing nowadays. There are tons of people who have twice that amount of cash tied up in personal assets alone.
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Nicocat
Caldari New Age Solutions
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Posted - 2006.12.07 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Skyrock 25b is nothing nowadays. There are tons of people who have twice that amount of cash tied up in personal assets alone.
Who wants 25b to throw around, hmm? *raises hand* *looks around* Yeah, I thought so. 25b is plenty. ----------------------------
Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY
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Deitre Cibrus
Chickens with an Attitude
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Posted - 2006.12.07 19:48:00 -
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Originally by: Nicocat
Originally by: Skyrock 25b is nothing nowadays. There are tons of people who have twice that amount of cash tied up in personal assets alone.
Who wants 25b to throw around, hmm? *raises hand* *looks around* Yeah, I thought so. 25b is plenty.
Agree'd -----------
Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread.
What is this sig missing? Pretty colours? -Conuion |

Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.07 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nicocat
Originally by: Skyrock 25b is nothing nowadays. There are tons of people who have twice that amount of cash tied up in personal assets alone.
Who wants 25b to throw around, hmm? *raises hand* *looks around* Yeah, I thought so. 25b is plenty.
Deffinatly. An Outpost (one of the biggest investments in the game) only comes to what, 30 bil or so? I can barely keep my budget above 50 mill................... -----------------------------------------------
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MysticNZ
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2006.12.07 19:52:00 -
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Good on him. I hate corps/alliances that try to control you. -=====-
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Chronus26
Gallente Dark Blood Contracts
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Posted - 2006.12.07 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Deitre Cibrus
Originally by: Nicocat
Originally by: Skyrock 25b is nothing nowadays. There are tons of people who have twice that amount of cash tied up in personal assets alone.
Who wants 25b to throw around, hmm? *raises hand* *looks around* Yeah, I thought so. 25b is plenty.
Agree'd
25 bil is enough to keep anyone living lavishley for a good while.
The wise among us would invest though. -----
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Aledor Lueltana
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Posted - 2006.12.07 20:15:00 -
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I was the guy who posted the digg. Sorry about getting the USD amount mixed up, but I don't think I can edit it at this point. 
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Klagan Cornaels
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Posted - 2006.12.07 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: Klagan Cornaels on 07/12/2006 20:20:50 The money wasnt the worst part.
SOLST was the production backbone of the AXE Alliance. By Crippling SOLST, he pretty much just doomed the alliance to death.
The corp has no bpos, no way to mine, no cash reserves, nothing. Its like taking out the bottom three floors of a eighty story building.
aAa and BoB immediately swarmed on SOLST terrority. SOLST had all of the Alliance POS fuel.
I think you can see where this is going.
This was probably the 2nd biggest scam besides the Bank when you consider the fallout and potential loss that these AXE corps are going to lose.
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Xei Dei
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Posted - 2006.12.07 20:29:00 -
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Classic!
I leave eve for a year+, and I see the same-ole, same-ole happens...
Sounds like the shyt that happpened to FA years ago, before POS's...
But let me get something straight?!
if they are putting a bounty on this guy ( only rumored, from the vine I hear there is one ), and they are out 25b isk. That equals How much?
Tactics: this could be a huge re positioning in controlled space, but I haven't seen much movement yet.
That is a Huge chunk of change for them to absorb. If they dont get hurt, and the isk flows like wine, perhaps he was right?
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Radeberger
Caldari Eye of God Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.07 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Klagan Cornaels Edited by: Klagan Cornaels on 07/12/2006 20:20:50 The money wasnt the worst part.
SOLST was the production backbone of the AXE Alliance. By Crippling SOLST, he pretty much just doomed the alliance to death.
The corp has no bpos, no way to mine, no cash reserves, nothing. Its like taking out the bottom three floors of a eighty story building.
aAa and BoB immediately swarmed on SOLST terrority. SOLST had all of the Alliance POS fuel.
I think you can see where this is going.
This was probably the 2nd biggest scam besides the Bank when you consider the fallout and potential loss that these AXE corps are going to lose.
dude what have you been smoking (because i'd like to get some of that), can i sell you a clue before you make a new post? Sure it sucked, but a big potential loss, hahahhahahahhaha
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Malius
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2006.12.07 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Klagan Cornaels Edited by: Klagan Cornaels on 07/12/2006 20:20:50 The money wasnt the worst part.
SOLST was the production backbone of the AXE Alliance. By Crippling SOLST, he pretty much just doomed the alliance to death.
The corp has no bpos, no way to mine, no cash reserves, nothing. Its like taking out the bottom three floors of a eighty story building.
aAa and BoB immediately swarmed on SOLST terrority. SOLST had all of the Alliance POS fuel.
I think you can see where this is going.
This was probably the 2nd biggest scam besides the Bank when you consider the fallout and potential loss that these AXE corps are going to lose.
Awww now, you may have hurt us but there's no need to spread lies :)
Each of the axe corps have their own industry, especially the big players like EOG and DDC.
You actually didn't get all the bpos ;)
We had our own fuel, the rest of the alliance has there's.
Plenty of cash too, and to top if off, it meant nothing to the aaa war .. since the towers were onlined before aaa even noticed, despite your warning.
So in the grand scheme of things, a greedy person got away with a pretty big haul, however the corp goes on and it wasn't even a ripple in the river that is the alliance.
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Klagan Cornaels
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Posted - 2006.12.07 21:30:00 -
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I wish it was me who had the 25b isk, but alas, I'm not that lucky.
However from the massive screenshots that have been posted around showing CEO/Director chats about how "We are totally ******" or "He got all the fuel" or my favorite, "I hope the server reverts". I highly doubt you guys would be going to such great lengths to make this seme like a minor incident if it really didn't bother the alliance.
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Malius
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2006.12.07 21:36:00 -
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Edited by: Malius on 07/12/2006 21:36:38
Originally by: Klagan Cornaels I wish it was me who had the 25b isk, but alas, I'm not that lucky.
However from the massive screenshots that have been posted around showing CEO/Director chats about how "We are totally ******" or "He got all the fuel" or my favorite, "I hope the server reverts". I highly doubt you guys would be going to such great lengths to make this seme like a minor incident if it really didn't bother the alliance.
Its not minor to us, but it is minor to the alliance. Why would you think we would hold the alliance fuels or materials? Don't you think that is kinda silly?
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Sadist
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.07 21:41:00 -
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/Applauds тттттттттттт
VIP member of the [23]
Quote: - Numbers alone do not win a battle - No, but I bet they help.
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Klagan Cornaels
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Posted - 2006.12.07 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Malius Edited by: Malius on 07/12/2006 21:36:38
Originally by: Klagan Cornaels I wish it was me who had the 25b isk, but alas, I'm not that lucky.
However from the massive screenshots that have been posted around showing CEO/Director chats about how "We are totally ******" or "He got all the fuel" or my favorite, "I hope the server reverts". I highly doubt you guys would be going to such great lengths to make this seme like a minor incident if it really didn't bother the alliance.
Its not minor to us, but it is minor to the alliance. Why would you think we would hold the alliance fuels or materials? Don't you think that is kinda silly?
Silly like giving some Ex-BoB guy access to your hangers? Silly like giving an ex-goon 6/7 access?

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Malius
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2006.12.07 21:51:00 -
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Yes, precisely. Happens, people are trusted for the wrong reasons sometimes. You did a good job on us no doubt, and I expect you to enjoy your conquest for sometime to come.
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Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2006.12.07 23:05:00 -
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Well the thief certainly does raise an interesting point in his description (regardless of whether or not it's true).. If a corp is having miners slave away for them, shouldn't those miners get something in return?.. If a corp doesn't take care of it's employees can you really be shocked or surprised when they turn on you?..
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.07 23:07:00 -
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I would care...but I dont know anyone affected by this...so meh. *returns to his normal salesman duties*
Providence/Charon Freighters
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Shinjuro
Solidline Enterprise Kith of Venal
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Posted - 2006.12.07 23:19:00 -
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I lol'd at that chat with the AXE empire guy when he was finally uncovered.
/me is very impressed.
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von Rothschild
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Posted - 2006.12.07 23:25:00 -
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Edited by: von Rothschild on 07/12/2006 23:27:38 argh.. used alt.
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Gama24
Gallente No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.07 23:27:00 -
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Edited by: Gama24 on 07/12/2006 23:28:37
A thief, even glorified, is merely a thief.
Some people pirate and work for it, others infiltrate enemy corps and alliances and raise hell for a cause. He got ****ed and showed his true colors.
Somehow I can't feel sympathetic with a carebear who flown his own carrier in PS, has 3 EVE accounts and stabbed his fellow corpmates in the back.

I am however sad, that someday, one of this stories will end very badly, when this bad blood spills into real life and ends in tragedy. Then authorities will have to legislate and ruin a game that I enjoy playing.
By condoning this course of action, CCP is playing with fire.
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Alaph Force
Gallente Es and Whizz
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Posted - 2006.12.08 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Gama24 Edited by: Gama24 on 07/12/2006 23:28:37
... and ruin a game that I enjoy playing.
By condoning this course of action, CCP is playing with fire.
And yet the catch 22 is that if CCP did anything to dissuade this type of thing then you wouldn't be playing THIS game you love, instead you would be playing WoW in space.  One Tired EvE Pilot |

Grim Starwind
Exotic Dancers Club
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Posted - 2006.12.08 00:21:00 -
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just read the post on digg. hehehe, I think that's so funny. Good to him if that's exactly the way it went down. Shame if certain people lost their stuff that was against the leaders too. But hey, I wish I had that amount of isk 
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Apollyon X
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.08 04:46:00 -
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Sounds like the theif had a beef with the HC of his corp. Instead of just dealing with them, he hurt the entire alliance. Personally I would do anything for my corp and alliance mates. If I was in SOLST and saw that he was mad about being gouged, I would have talked to HC or even given the theif money to help pay for stuff because I like to help people out. Its so much more fun for me to take care of my friends then have lots of isk.
The saddest part is that I know for a fact that there are many people like me in AXE that he just stabbed in the back for no reason and thats the real tragedy about this event 
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arkarsk
Provenance.
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Posted - 2006.12.08 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Apollyon X Sounds like the theif had a beef with the HC of his corp. Instead of just dealing with them, he hurt the entire alliance.
Apparently he did speak with the HC, and was pretty much told to go screw himself. That's just what i gathered from his post(s) though. ----------------- http://www.eve-provenance.com |

Kesslan Osefice
Panther's Paw Industries Ltd
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Posted - 2006.12.08 07:13:00 -
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Yeah its stuff like this that makes me constantly remind my guys that. Hey yeah there are times i"m not online alot, but we do have a corp BBOard, you do have Evemail if you have an issue with the way things are in the corp. -Say something about it!-
Not many people do even then. And I certainly do my best to try to make sure everyone is treated evenly. Making guys work for you for hours on end, not paying them a dime and them price gouging them (if this is actually what happened) is only asking for trouble. ___ This space for rent! ___ Yay we finally have a forum: http://pantherspaw.freehostia.com/ |

Heikki
Gallente Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated
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Posted - 2006.12.08 07:51:00 -
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Originally by: arkarsk he did speak with the HC, and was pretty much told to go screw himself
Based on his words, he was annoyed when corp HC was selling new Kali ships to anyone at market prices, and members had to wait couple weeks to get them at production cost.
Or in variation of his words: life was good and ISK rolling, but then the war started and ruined the life.
Hardly anyone wants to feel he is evil; much easier to explain your own actions with excuses. Both to public and to yourself.
-Lasse "but she wanted it"
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Kesslan Osefice
Panther's Paw Industries Ltd
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Posted - 2006.12.08 07:59:00 -
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Yeah, going over the logs more indepth it doesnt look -at all- like he really tried dealing with the issue, just got mad and started looting. And at one point he claims it was a 'heat of the moment' thing, the other he says he planned it out for two weeks ahead of time.
Now if it was 'really' a sort of robin hood type deal where he looted crap then gave a ton to all the other hardworking members I -might- give him a tiny degree of respect. But he's just comming across to me as some one else who got greedy and hurt alot of other players who did him no wrong for no reason beyond self satisfaction and getting rich. ___ This space for rent! ___ Yay we finally have a forum: http://pantherspaw.freehostia.com/ |

Smokemon
Amarr No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.08 08:30:00 -
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This guy doesn't deserve any of your respect, he got to make millions mining in LX5 when the alliance is based in, gasp, impass. Its unfortunate that this greedy person got away with this, but my sadness isn't as strong since SOLST ripped off alliance mates :/
300mil for a Rohk? NOQ (which doesn't have anywhere near the income SOLST does) is already providing them for corp members for free. Not to mention our corp wallet is a fraction of yours. Ripping off alliance mates is unacceptable no matter what. How much money does your corp make from moon mining? How many billions a month? You can't sell BSes at cost to alliance mates? Somethings wrong there...and if my memory is right there were other price gouging problems too :/
SOLST you're a good corp with some not so nice practices, I hope you guys learned something from this as corp thiefts are NEVER good no matter who it happens to.
P.S. AXE keep up the good fight. ---------------------------------------- -Proud member of No Quarter
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Royaldo
Old Farts
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Smokemon This guy doesn't deserve any of your respect, he got to make millions mining in LX5 when the alliance is based in, gasp, impass. Its unfortunate that this greedy person got away with this, but my sadness isn't as strong since SOLST ripped off alliance mates :/
300mil for a Rohk? NOQ (which doesn't have anywhere near the income SOLST does) is already providing them for corp members for free. Not to mention our corp wallet is a fraction of yours. Ripping off alliance mates is unacceptable no matter what. How much money does your corp make from moon mining? How many billions a month? You can't sell BSes at cost to alliance mates? Somethings wrong there...and if my memory is right there were other price gouging problems too :/
SOLST you're a good corp with some not so nice practices, I hope you guys learned something from this as corp thiefts are NEVER good no matter who it happens to.
P.S. AXE keep up the good fight.
free rokh? how?
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Malius
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2006.12.08 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Smokemon 300mil for a Rohk? SOLST you're a good corp with some not so nice practices, I hope you guys learned something from this as corp thiefts are NEVER good no matter who it happens to.
P.S. AXE keep up the good fight.
We never sold Rohk's for 300m. I didn't see a screenshot in those posts that showed market orders for 300m. Again your taking the word of a very deranged, greedy individual. Not that I'm asking you to take my word either, but really, he's gonna beef his story up as much as possible to get 'sympathy' for being nothing but a thief, and maybe a good one. Just keep in mind that maybe what he posted wasn't the complete truth...
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Doppleganger
Minmatar Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.08 14:33:00 -
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Sounds like a childish act for childish reasons.
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Hermithoth
AirHawk Alliance Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.08 15:15:00 -
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Always look out for sociopaths..
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Mactire
No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.08 15:34:00 -
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Edited by: Mactire on 08/12/2006 15:34:57 Well best of luck to you mate. You made the choice of friends or isk. Good luck in making true friends in the game ever again. Remember, anyone you get friends with will be after your isk....
Friendship > isk
Mac
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Lacero Callrisian
Minmatar Solar Storm Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.08 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Malius
Originally by: Smokemon 300mil for a Rohk? SOLST you're a good corp with some not so nice practices, I hope you guys learned something from this as corp thiefts are NEVER good no matter who it happens to.
P.S. AXE keep up the good fight.
We never sold Rohk's for 300m. I didn't see a screenshot in those posts that showed market orders for 300m. Again your taking the word of a very deranged, greedy individual. Not that I'm asking you to take my word either, but really, he's gonna beef his story up as much as possible to get 'sympathy' for being nothing but a thief, and maybe a good one. Just keep in mind that maybe what he posted wasn't the complete truth...
thanks mal. I'll let members defend the corp management if they want to, but some facts people may want to consider:
We borrowed isk from corp members to afford the new bpos, we wanted to pay them back as soon as possible. We had limited minerals to build them with, and couldn't have built everyone a rokh for a few weeks. The hangers he had access to were explicitly for him to get fuel from to keep his carrier running etc. Two of the hangers he looted contained cruisers, frigs and mods free to all members. We replace battleships lost during combat ops in wartime for insurance payout minus insurance cost. ie. free We made a mistake...
Lacero Finance Director Solar Storm and glorified *******
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Tadamitsu
Solar Storm Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.08 20:51:00 -
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Thank you Lacero.
I admit I made one mistake. I gave Kalgan a chance cause he lied and said the goons where just a try out and he hated it. He also lied and said Kalgan was his main account. it is not. he claimed to have purchased a carrier pilot for ISK, another lie, just a loaner toon, from his BOB friend. See a trend yet?
I never did any of the stuff he claims, I had already sold a rohk and two drakes for minerals cost! Yes 4 day old BPO for mineral cost, we are 40 jumps out into 0.0, so how many corps are doing that in empire right now? He is just posturing in an attempt to gain some sympathy for acting like a sociopath and deviant.
Also someone who claims to have problems with HC as a manager within the corp he had a responsibility to bring it up to HC, and work through it, he made no attempts to contact me or any other dir. more lies.
He is just a lier and a thief, if Solar Storm had the issues he claims we would be fracturing but we are not we are drawing even tighter by the day. He planned this for days or weeks, lied to Solar storm for months and executed a planned heist.
All he accomplished is to reforge, refocus, and anger the membership of the corp. Hulks, can be replaced, minerals, can be mined. Our people are what make us great. guess he didn't measure up.
Now for the funny part. He was a SOLST manager. Not High command cause he missed about 10b worth of bpo's and about 7b worth of T2 and capships, and about 10b worth of POS gear. guess you did not know as much as you thought huh?
his true character now shows through.
I will reiterate the important points. Axe is strong. Solar Storm is already on the road to recovery. You will be hunted.
Tadamitsu CEO Solar Storm Axiom Empire HC
SOLST please stay out of this thread. we are done here this is the past. We look to the future, my friends.
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Haffrage
Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.08 22:41:00 -
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Edited by: Haffrage on 08/12/2006 22:42:18 I can back up Tada, he's a good guy. He wouldn't gouge or anything like that. I was in axe's high command for a little while.
...Which, tbfh, is why I'm laughing so god damned hard 
Oh and SOLST isn't even close to Axe's industry backbone. At least not while I was there. I wonder who built two of the three outposts Axe has up?  -----
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.08 22:43:00 -
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Edited by: DarknessInc on 08/12/2006 22:44:40 how many corps actually hunt down the person
like I said before, this hasnt affected anyone I know, or actively know about, unless it was an Ex-Huzzah member who fought during our downfall, but the fact is, he probably will be selling his carrier account, using that ISK to buy a new name with an alt, and he will carry on through EVE with his ISK and pride of what he accomplished
PS: <3 NoQ
<.< Ohhh how I remember those Ventrillo convos on what the name the megacorporation. 'Snakes on a Gate" and such. Hahaha good times.....R.I.P HUZZAH FEDERATION
Providence/Charon Freighters
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Ho1iday
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Posted - 2006.12.09 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Heikki
Originally by: arkarsk he did speak with the HC, and was pretty much told to go screw himself
Based on his words, he was annoyed when corp HC was selling new Kali ships to anyone at market prices, and members had to wait couple weeks to get them at production cost.
Or in variation of his words: life was good and ISK rolling, but then the war started and ruined the life.
Hardly anyone wants to feel he is evil; much easier to explain your own actions with excuses. Both to public and to yourself.
-Lasse "but she wanted it"
QFT! Just lame excuses for not being up to scratch himself. Corp theft is just the lowest thing you can do in EVE, its basically f****** over people that trust you. Which is the lamest and worst thing you can do, both in game and in RL. But atleast in RL you can f*** someone back!
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Matrix Aran
Legio Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.09 18:48:00 -
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To be honest, its funny reading this thread. Everyone involved is practicaly lying. The guy who pulled this off got really ****ed and really greedy and did what I believe to be a beautiful job of looting a very dumb corp that gave a "deranged individual" 6 corp hanger access rights and permision to access POS systems. He's lying when he says he's doing it for the beterment of the corp. You've got the corp lying throught its teeth towing the party line and saying oh this didn't hurt us at all. Anyone who has ever run a corporation knows two things here: 1) That hurt like a kick to the nuts and also hurt the alliance because one corp now either has nothing left to keep up its war efforts and must divert thier own reserves towards helping them, or the corp itself must pull back from warfare and rebuild. 2) The majority of the members posting here are people who are 'allowed' to post here, and are only doing so to tow the party line.
In any case, beautiful theft, dumb corp, lots of fun watching the wreckage. ----
Originally by: Oveur on rigs Sure, np, it's only like ... the 6th time I say this here 
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Salvia Devine
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Posted - 2006.12.10 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tadamitsu Thank you Lacero.
I admit I made one mistake. I gave Kalgan a chance cause he lied and said the goons where just a try out and he hated it. He also lied and said Kalgan was his main account. it is not. he claimed to have purchased a carrier pilot for ISK, another lie, just a loaner toon, from his BOB friend. See a trend yet?
I never did any of the stuff he claims, I had already sold a rohk and two drakes for minerals cost! Yes 4 day old BPO for mineral cost, we are 40 jumps out into 0.0, so how many corps are doing that in empire right now? He is just posturing in an attempt to gain some sympathy for acting like a sociopath and deviant.
Also someone who claims to have problems with HC as a manager within the corp he had a responsibility to bring it up to HC, and work through it, he made no attempts to contact me or any other dir. more lies.
He is just a lier and a thief, if Solar Storm had the issues he claims we would be fracturing but we are not we are drawing even tighter by the day. He planned this for days or weeks, lied to Solar storm for months and executed a planned heist.
All he accomplished is to reforge, refocus, and anger the membership of the corp. Hulks, can be replaced, minerals, can be mined. Our people are what make us great. guess he didn't measure up.
Now for the funny part. He was a SOLST manager. Not High command cause he missed about 10b worth of bpo's and about 7b worth of T2 and capships, and about 10b worth of POS gear. guess you did not know as much as you thought huh?
his true character now shows through.
I will reiterate the important points. Axe is strong. Solar Storm is already on the road to recovery. You will be hunted.
Wow, this is pretty pathetic sounding. 'Lier' and a thief? His true character? Are you talking about his character, or his avatar's character? What is the point of whining that he lied? That was the point! This here is a role-playing game, and Kalgan played his part brilliantly. I think anybody watching has to congratulate him. Chastising him for stealing all that stuff is like condemning Johnny Damon for stealing second base! I mean, if you were a professional boxer, would you announce how your opponent was a sociopath or a deviant because he punched you repeatedly during the match?
And we all know you made way more than one mistake. This is a competitive, multi-player game. Piracy and theft are built into the game. You aren't supposed to trust anyone. Especially not with the keys to your space stations. It doesn't matter why he did it- you were a fool for giving him a chance! You can talk about hunting him down all you want- how exactly do you do that? He transfers the money to a new character, or sells it for cash, and starts anew. Heck, maybe he'll just decide to quit playing EVE now that he's pretty much beaten the game. No really, what are you going to do, pod him?
Of course, it is possible that that rant of yours is 'in-character'. I suppose that would make more sense- but If you are going to roleplay the leader of a powerful space-company you would come across better without all the immature sounding bitterness. Maybe a vow to have his family sent to be slaves on a desolate moon, or a promise to keel-haul him through an asteroid belt. Or perhaps just a congratulations for a heist well done.
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Na'Kunni
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2006.12.20 17:48:00 -
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lol, i wish i have that kind of money *Dibbles*....  
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Metalworks THE INTERSTELLAR FOUNDRY
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Posted - 2006.12.20 18:03:00 -
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omfg. dont necro the freshly dead. Let them stay dead and get some age. NO NECROING!!!!! 
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