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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2015.08.11 08:35:28 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Honestly, I'm shocked by the response in this thread. I thought we tried to have a welcoming community here.
yeah thats what i thought, guy is only a trial account, could have potential to be a good pvp pilot but instead of advice he gets flamed from post #1 not really a good impression
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation
1897
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Posted - 2015.08.11 08:42:03 -
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Lan Wang wrote:BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Honestly, I'm shocked by the response in this thread. I thought we tried to have a welcoming community here. yeah thats what i thought, guy is only a trial account, could have potential to be a good pvp pilot but instead of advice he gets flamed from post #1 not really a good impression Yeah, I realized something was wrong when Sabriz had the most welcoming post on the front page of a "GRR CODE" thread.
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
1530
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Posted - 2015.08.11 09:16:11 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Lan Wang wrote:BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Honestly, I'm shocked by the response in this thread. I thought we tried to have a welcoming community here. yeah thats what i thought, guy is only a trial account, could have potential to be a good pvp pilot but instead of advice he gets flamed from post #1 not really a good impression Yeah, I realized something was wrong when Sabriz had the most welcoming post on the front page of a "GRR CODE" thread.
This was my first thought as well.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So, why do I post here?
I'm stubborn.
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2015.08.11 09:20:28 -
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Sadly I think that's actually more common than we think here in NQ&A.
But people will always do what they're allowed to get away with.
I used to enjoy posting help in this subsection a bit, but would often find myself too distracted by the flamey or arrogant responses from some vets and ultimately just end up in arguments with them myself more than actually making helpful posts. That's not fun or helpful so I just gave up posting in the end, unless I see a question that's directly related to what I enjoy in EVE so I can contribute something useful.
Not that I've contributed anything useful at all in this one ... but I've just been in a spammy mood today.
It just happens.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11217
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Posted - 2015.08.11 09:27:31 -
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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Lan Wang wrote:BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie wrote:Honestly, I'm shocked by the response in this thread. I thought we tried to have a welcoming community here. yeah thats what i thought, guy is only a trial account, could have potential to be a good pvp pilot but instead of advice he gets flamed from post #1 not really a good impression Yeah, I realized something was wrong when Sabriz had the most welcoming post on the front page of a "GRR CODE" thread. Hay, I gave him genuine advice (admittedly in a whimsical fashion but still!).
They're not all that hard to avoid and ****ing with CODE. Is great fun .
Candi LeMew wrote:Sadly I think that's actually more common than we think here in NQ&A. But people will always do what they're allowed to get away with. I used to enjoy posting help in this subsection a bit, but would often find myself too distracted by the flamey or arrogant responses from some vets and ultimately just end up in arguments with them myself more than actually making helpful posts. That's not fun or helpful so I just gave up posting in the end, unless I see a question that's directly related to what I enjoy in EVE so I can contribute something useful. Not that I've contributed anything useful at all in this one ... but I've just been in a spammy mood today. It just happens. Hmmm in my experience here it's generally only the most obnoxiously entitled ones who get flamed in here, usually it's fairly straightforward advice, answering questions and generally divulging information.
That said this one turned ugly (for ncq&a) quickly but I think that's to do with the abnormal amount of "grrrr CODE." Threads at the moment, still no excuse and I'll apologies if I contributed in a less than constructive manor.
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Haruchai Khan
Metropolitan Police Service
130
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Posted - 2015.08.11 10:27:52 -
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If you do all the Career Missions at the start, you get given two Ventures (one from the Business agent, one from the Industry)
I thought this was duplication, but then considered that right away, one has a back-up if your mining gets interrupted by PvP. I'd like to think that this was by design, so new players experimenting with mining can lose a ship with no penalty whatsoever (aside from the psychological blow/learning experience).
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Livonia Velorea
The Fiendish Pixies
49
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Posted - 2015.08.11 10:42:30 -
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I'm intrigued as to what you all might think of this...
EvE Forum
Steam Forum
It certainly sparks my curiosity.
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Giaus Felix
Hedion University Amarr Empire
46
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Posted - 2015.08.11 12:19:13 -
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^^ I caught that myself about 10 minutes ago, I'm going for troll and have posted as much over on steam |
Vendraen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.08.11 12:21:16 -
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Internet detectives FTW? :D
Have to give the OP credit though, for a troll, they did fairly well at concealing their trollyness.
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
1321
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Posted - 2015.08.11 12:30:51 -
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Vendraen wrote:Internet detectives FTW? :D
Have to give the OP credit though, for a troll, they did fairly well at concealing their trollyness.
Ah, the carebear troll got me. And I thought my view of the carebear could not get any lower, yet here we are.
Shame on you OP. Wasting the time of the good people of this forum just to promote your change-Eve-to-be-what-I-want-it-to-be agenda by pretending to be a new player. Take that stuff to the F&I where it can be properly debunked or ridiculed as the case may be.
Here is the full link to the steam thread: https://steamcommunity.com/app/8500/discussions/0/541907867788061137/ |
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Alaric Faelen
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
332
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Posted - 2015.08.11 12:34:35 -
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I've spent years coming to this forum offering advice and encouragement to players with a genuine desire to get better at Eve. This is not one of those cases. This is just another rant about how after a couple days of playing Eve, someone with an over-inflated sense of entitlement has decided that he knows how to 'fix' Eve....fix rules that have existed the entire time Eve has been in existence.
Nonsense like 'open PvP is okay....but' should be called out and mocked. Basically saying- 'the rules everyone has played by for 12 years are fine...as long as they don't apply to me'. I have no tolerance for that. We all came to the same game, with the same rules. If you don't like those rules then don't play the game.
It's not an insult to suggest this isn't the game for some people. If you can't survive a trial account without taking to the forums soaking in tears, then clearly Eve is the wrong choice of games. Thats why they offer a trial account. It's only going to get worse once you have something valuable to lose. It's not my fault if that honest appraisal hurts some gamer's ego too much to admit that maybe another game is more your style than Eve is. Nor is it the responsibility of the devs to alter a game from it's very core mechanics simply because some people cannot go a couple days without crying like a school girl with a skinned knee over the same mechanics that tens of thousands of other players managed to survive for over a decade. Eve is easier now than it ever has been...and still it's not enough dumbing down and hand holding for some.
Being extorted, scammed, or blown up is not unique to any one player- yet tens of thousands of us manage to play Eve without having to cry to the devs when someone actually engages in multiplayer online gaming..in a multiplayer online game. Don't cry when someone role plays, in a role playing game. Even if the role they choose is 'bad guy'.
What is insulting is the notion that difficulty and adversity is a 'problem' with Eve. For many players it is exactly this concept that attracted us to Eve in the first place. For many of the longest term and most dedicated players- Eve is a destination. It's where we came to when we got tired of swimming in the shallow end of gaming with kiddie games like WoW. If that's the type of game you want- there are lots out there to choose from. But there is only one game like Eve Online. If you don't like the game that Eve is...fine... but don't assume that your inability to handle the rules and mechanics is universal. Way too many of us managed to survive and prosper under those same (or harsher) rules for over a decade. It's not the game...it's YOU.
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Vendraen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.08.11 12:36:30 -
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Black Pedro wrote:to promote your change-Eve-to-be-what-I-want-it-to-be agenda
This is perhaps the biggest problem in MMO gaming today. People need to stop trying to "force" games to be molded in their personal image. It made more sense back over a decade ago when there were so few choices.
Back then, there may have been nothing that met your needs - so trying to encourage devs to mold things around your ideas made some sense. Now? Pfffft, how many games do we have to choose from? I can't count them.
(And note, I am someone that still loves "traditional MMOs!")
Having so many choices and so many styles and flavors is a wonderful thing! (Except for time and money allocation, since so many can be tempting.)
EVE is way, way outside my usual comfort zone. I'm trying to make an honest go of it. If the OP were a real poster, I'd be trying to encourage them to see things this way.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1341
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Posted - 2015.08.11 12:50:19 -
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Alaric Faelen wrote:I've spent years coming to this forum offering advice and encouragement to players with a genuine desire to get better at Eve. This is not one of those cases. This is just another rant about how after a couple days of playing Eve, someone with an over-inflated sense of entitlement has decided that he knows how to 'fix' Eve....fix rules that have existed the entire time Eve has been in existence.
Nonsense like 'open PvP is okay....but' should be called out and mocked. Basically saying- 'the rules everyone has played by for 12 years are fine...as long as they don't apply to me'. I have no tolerance for that. We all came to the same game, with the same rules. If you don't like those rules then don't play the game.
It's not an insult to suggest this isn't the game for some people. If you can't survive a trial account without taking to the forums soaking in tears, then clearly Eve is the wrong choice of games. Thats why they offer a trial account. It's only going to get worse once you have something valuable to lose. It's not my fault if that honest appraisal hurts some gamer's ego too much to admit that maybe another game is more your style than Eve is. Nor is it the responsibility of the devs to alter a game from it's very core mechanics simply because some people cannot go a couple days without crying like a school girl with a skinned knee over the same mechanics that tens of thousands of other players managed to survive for over a decade. Eve is easier now than it ever has been...and still it's not enough dumbing down and hand holding for some.
Being extorted, scammed, or blown up is not unique to any one player- yet tens of thousands of us manage to play Eve without having to cry to the devs when someone actually engages in multiplayer online gaming..in a multiplayer online game. Don't cry when someone role plays, in a role playing game. Even if the role they choose is 'bad guy'.
What is insulting is the notion that difficulty and adversity is a 'problem' with Eve. For many players it is exactly this concept that attracted us to Eve in the first place. For many of the longest term and most dedicated players- Eve is a destination. It's where we came to when we got tired of swimming in the shallow end of gaming with kiddie games like WoW. If that's the type of game you want- there are lots out there to choose from. But there is only one game like Eve Online. If you don't like the game that Eve is...fine... but don't assume that your inability to handle the rules and mechanics is universal. Way too many of us managed to survive and prosper under those same (or harsher) rules for over a decade. It's not the game...it's YOU.
he said he was in a rookie system and if he is being extorted in rookie systems then its against the rules. im all for eve but punching puppies is a bit a d!ck move, doesnt matter how you paint it, the most self-entitled people in eve are code.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
24582
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Posted - 2015.08.11 12:58:18 -
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Lan Wang wrote:he said he was in a rookie system and if he is being extorted in rookie systems then its against the rules. im all for eve but punching puppies is a bit a d!ck move, doesnt matter how you paint it, the most self-entitled people in eve are code. It's only against the rules if he's a newbie, and given the very similar thread over on steam it's extremely debatable as to whether he is or not.
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
84
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Posted - 2015.08.11 15:33:42 -
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Lan Wang wrote:
he said he was in a rookie system and if he is being extorted in rookie systems then its against the rules. im all for eve but punching puppies is a bit a d!ck move, doesnt matter how you paint it, the most self-entitled people in eve are code.
Doesn't sound like he was in a rookie system to me, he says he was in an 0.8 system.
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Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1342
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Posted - 2015.08.11 15:48:06 -
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Avvy wrote:Lan Wang wrote:
he said he was in a rookie system and if he is being extorted in rookie systems then its against the rules. im all for eve but punching puppies is a bit a d!ck move, doesnt matter how you paint it, the most self-entitled people in eve are code.
Doesn't sound like he was in a rookie system to me, he says he was in an 0.8 system. Tarrum Tivianne wrote:
I am in .8 space, academy, Clellinon, local chat: Codebandit to Cusin Boneless "10 mill to mine", "prmise i wont pew ya"....
Its still not allowed as its a career system
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
84
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Posted - 2015.08.11 15:55:08 -
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Lan Wang wrote:Avvy wrote:Lan Wang wrote:
he said he was in a rookie system and if he is being extorted in rookie systems then its against the rules. im all for eve but punching puppies is a bit a d!ck move, doesnt matter how you paint it, the most self-entitled people in eve are code.
Doesn't sound like he was in a rookie system to me, he says he was in an 0.8 system. Tarrum Tivianne wrote:
I am in .8 space, academy, Clellinon, local chat: Codebandit to Cusin Boneless "10 mill to mine", "prmise i wont pew ya"....
Its still not allowed as its a career system
Didn't know there were any 0.8 career systems.
This also goes back to the discussion about the SoE arc, how do you know who is actually doing career missions or the SoE arc if they're not in a specific system. Only option would be to not interact with any account less than 31 days old.
Seems to me nothing actually happened to the op other than that message which obviously when the op thought about it and its implications he decided he didn't like the game as it was or at least the dark side of the game. Or did I miss something? |
Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1342
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Posted - 2015.08.11 15:58:42 -
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i dunno probably just another propaganda post from a code alt, i just like creating conflict
List of systems CODE. should avoid
I dont think it matters what they are doing in the system, they are not allowed to do it at all
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Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
1169
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Posted - 2015.08.11 16:00:52 -
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Candi LeMew wrote:Also is it bad that I've a funny feeling this thread is a troll? Those instincts.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
2984
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Posted - 2015.08.11 16:01:40 -
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Sabriz Adoudel wrote:Possibly, or it could just be someone that came here with their only gaming experience being in games where setbacks are relatively minor ('restart this level, kiddo') and only inflicted by poor AI high stat opponents. I personally consider myself a poor AI, high stat opponent.
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Rebecca Cailin
Gambling Angels
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Posted - 2015.08.11 18:52:15 -
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Tarrum Tivianne wrote:
I am in .8 space, academy, Clellinon
Well that's a huge nono to do that in a rookie spawn system or a career location...
Amarr Empire: (Conoban System - Hedion University) 0.905248800027831 (Deepari System - Imperial Academy) 0.914172634878232 (Pasha System - Royal Amarr Institute) 0.914349195494101
Caldari State: (Akiainavas System - School of Applied Knowledge) 0.745254943318089 (Jouvulen System - Science and Trade Institute) 0.889762851761055 (Uitra System - State War Academy) 0.924096002964332
Gallente Federation: (Clellinon System - Center for Advanced Studies) 0.848465929327211 (Couster System - Federal Navy Academy) 0.902460888451989 (Trossere System - University of Caille) 0.914410272591836
Minmatar Republic: (Embod System - Pator Tech School) 0.960749400265842 (Hadaugago System - Republic Military School) 0.948771964644125 (Malukker System - Republic University) 0.988011674540224
Has anyone checked killmail to see if this has actually happened?
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Lan Wang wrote:i dunno probably just another propaganda post from a code alt, i just like creating conflict List of systems CODE. should avoidI dont think it matters what they are doing in the system, they are not allowed to do it at all Nice link. |
Valerian STA
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2015.08.11 23:04:20 -
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I don't care if the OP is for real or not. If he isn't, many other new players will read this thread, feeling the same problems, I suppose.
What I have to say to him, as someone that is not an expert or a total newbie, it's that life in Eve will be always like what you've just experienced. Difference being you'll lose much more.
Eve it's much more about our own will against adversity than about protection, fairness or any other good feeling. You like challenge, you'll keep on playing.
There are many players on Eve willing to help newbies. That's the better part this game can ever have.
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
691
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Posted - 2015.08.12 00:50:53 -
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Webvan wrote:Sabriz Adoudel wrote:I'm not going to tell the OP to go away. I gotta agree, player has only been in EVE three days. If he's gone, he's gone, his loss. But I'm not going to push him out the door so quickly, certainly not from NCQA. EVE is unlike anything on the market right now for the most part. There were some like EVE but they're gone, mostly (mixed pvp/pve openworld). Most mmo players now a days only know games like WoW, which is sad since that's all they know. Most of those I doubt can adapt, or even want to, or would not even try a game like EVE. Been playing graphical muds... er mmo's for 20 years, and I know three days to adapt is just not possible in any game, especially in EVE. Even years of playing EVE, from my first login in 2004, to today where I'm committed (there were other games like EVE back then), I still have difficulty adapting to certain changes. In fact I'm still pretty angry with the mini-game junk added to exploration, and I refuse to adapt, but just do something else. Should I ragequit? Nope. Everyone here has likely been through something that made them pretty friggen angry, even if for a little while, if having been here any time at all. You said all kinds of crap whatever, to whoever, no one cares. Thing is eventually you picked up your weapon and got even, and that's what counts. Someone screwed with you and you screwed them back, that's EVE, maybe they think twice next time at least with you. In other games players hide behind the system and grief you, you can't do much of anything back. Here, you can put your time in and then hunt CODE. until you are good and satisfied if that's your prerogative. Ain't no BS here. I agree with Webvan here. I came from WoW and other games like. I stuck with Eve because it was the only game that was different than everything. I feel like I understand the "bad habits" that I feel games like that program us into. I fee like I understand them because I had a hard time letting go of them so my stubbornness caused me to experience the downside of them long after anyone with half a brain would have learned his or her lesson.
Because of that I do my best to help people that I see coming to this game with the same misconceptions that I had. I also try to identify the ones that I don't think will get past it and save them the trouble.
Am I trying to make the OP go away? No I don't believe I am. I feel like I am just letting him know that if he is looking for CCP to change Eve and make it a "fair" game and put soft fluffy pads on everything so that you don't hurt yourself then he is not going to win that fight and honestly would be better off playing a different game because he is not CCP's target audience.
Also if CCP were to listen to him Eve would become just like every other WoW clone out there and there would be nowhere left for me to go. If the OP wants Eve to play like WoW then maybe he should just go play WoW or the thousand other games that are just like it. I'm not trying to chase him off just be honest. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.12 00:59:48 -
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Once you leave your rookie system as a new player you're fair game (also some SoE systems).
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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
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Posted - 2015.08.12 01:46:58 -
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Shifted on my lazy butt and did some checking. It's not CODE. (as some implied originally) It's just a player named Codebandit with another corp/alliance. This didn't happen in the system the OP said here, happened in Luse (twice 30m apart) to a character named Cuzin Boneless not Cusin Boneless. OP, if this is your character that got ganked, how come you dudn't know how to spell it's name? ...nor know the correct system? erm...
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Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2083
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Posted - 2015.08.12 02:09:02 -
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Webvan wrote:entitled carebear and waaaah etc etc? Did I just step into GD? Get to know the game a little before uninstalling. Lucks.
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
92
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Posted - 2015.08.12 05:43:37 -
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Webvan wrote:Shifted on my lazy butt and did some checking. It's not CODE. (as some implied originally based on "code bandit") It's just a player named Codebandit with another corp/alliance. This didn't happen in the system the OP said here, happened in Luse (twice 30m apart) to a character named Cuzin Boneless not Cusin Boneless. OP, this isn't your character that got ganked, you dudn't even know how to spell it's name ...nor know the correct system? erm... edit: and I'm not saying he's a troll or not, just that his story doesn't fully check out. Easy mistake by a newbie, or intended oversight by a troll. But where it happens is important in this game, regardless if the person attacked was a newbie or not. It's also to note in case anyone got the impression, this did not happen to the OP. Nor was CODE involved. Nor happened in a protected system. Also note, OP, the player got right back up and went out again, to the same place. You can search his name on google to zkillboard. To go right back again, seems the player really didn't have any serious issue with it.
Easy mistake to make with the 'S' and the 'Z', but the system that's another story.
OP is just trying to cause trouble (troll) by the sound of it and either trying to put people off of the game and/or get the game changed. Why else would there also be a thread on Steam. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Black Hydra Consortium. CODE.
5247
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Posted - 2015.08.12 05:46:54 -
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Avvy wrote:Lan Wang wrote:Avvy wrote:Lan Wang wrote:
he said he was in a rookie system and if he is being extorted in rookie systems then its against the rules. im all for eve but punching puppies is a bit a d!ck move, doesnt matter how you paint it, the most self-entitled people in eve are code.
Doesn't sound like he was in a rookie system to me, he says he was in an 0.8 system. Tarrum Tivianne wrote:
I am in .8 space, academy, Clellinon, local chat: Codebandit to Cusin Boneless "10 mill to mine", "prmise i wont pew ya"....
Its still not allowed as its a career system Didn't know there were any 0.8 career systems. Seems to me nothing actually happened to the op other than that message which obviously when the op thought about it and its implications he decided he didn't like the game as it was or at least the dark side of the game. Or did I miss something? Edit: So I did miss something. Clellinon 0.8 system Akiainavas 0.7 system Both with career agents. That surprises me if they originally started out that way.
Those systems should have their sec status changed.
I only check against the rookie system list if I'm in a 1.0 or 0.9 system.
IMHO rookie systems should be changed to all be 1.0, and non-rookie systems that are presently 1.0 should be changed to 0.9, then the rules should simply state "non-consentual starship combat PVP against <30day old characters in 1.0 systems is not allowed".
I often advise newbies wanting to experience EVE's darker side to take an Atron or Catalyst and go gank a Venture somewhere but to avoid 1.0 systems due to fast CONCORD and the possibility of rookie system rules coming up. I've never thought to say to them 'check rookie system rules even if it's 0.8 or 0.7'.
Shoot everyone. Let the Saviour sort it out.
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
1025
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Posted - 2015.08.12 09:01:31 -
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They can put a little "RS" graphic at the top-left when you enter a rookie system. When you hover over it with your mouse a message appears concisely explaining the restrictions. Taking it one step further by default your safety in these systems could behave as if it's green (even if it's set otherwise). You would have to manually enable "aggression" in Rookie Systems similar to how you have to change your safety to red to begin with. Upon doing so it presents a message concisely explaining the restrictions and what the "RS" means at the top-left.
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
35403
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Posted - 2015.08.12 11:29:44 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:Candi LeMew wrote:Also is it bad that I've a funny feeling this thread is a troll? Those instincts. I've got a lot of Banana instincts. Animalistic, sometimes savage and always primal, Ms Forelli ...
But yeah. In anycase, troll or not, doesn't appear like he's going to post or respond again, so RIP. But for any legitimately new pilots reading this there's already been a ton of fantastic advice posted too, so it's all good. And now here we all are together ... so who wants a taco?
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