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Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2006.12.09 11:03:00 - [31] Originally by: Exiled One Originally by: Leverton Is this a real thread? It's a response thread to the idiots that started the 'CCP are anti-social griefers' thread. No it's not a response. Is an attempt to get people to read this thread instead of the other one. In the other one, people have already posted real valid argument for both sides (plus a lot of nonsense). In the other one, nonsense arguments have been pwened. So the OP created this one, knowing many people won't repost the whole thing cuz they are tired of saying the same thing again and again. And as an added strategy, the OP tries to exagerate the issues by saying that whole thing about belts, when the initial issue was missioning and PvE.
Mnengli Noiliffe	Posted - 2006.12.09 11:03:00 - [32] Originally by: Nicholai Pestot Originally by: Mnengli Noiliffe Edited by: Mnengli Noiliffe on 09/12/2006 10:35:04 Originally by: Nicholai Pestot Originally by: Reiisha A really good argument for at least giving mission runners some protection is this one: Why should any idiot with a scanner be able to access content a mission runner worked 2-3-4 weeks to get? Why should any idiot capable of grinding repetative, easy missions for 2-3-4 weeks be allowed access to content that is only available elsewhere through months or years of teamwork and risk? because 2-3-4 teamworkers need to get the isk to replace their pvp losses somewhere. They wouldn't sell their uber team content to ugly mission runners otherwise wouldn't they. they don't want to mine and run missions themselves right? so should ccp just place mins and isk into their pockets for pvp events they prefer to participate in? like, 1 killed noob mining in 0.2 = 1k zyd + 1 mil isk, or such .. would be cool eh? Yeah, great, an nice big isk fountain into eve that makes any material value of 0.0 territorial agression pointless. Dont worry fellers, we lost 50% of our regions, but thanks to easy hi-sec missions our economy is still running at 100%. sure in the fair world we should have sucked it up and quit playing as we lose in eve by losing 50% our regions. in the end the winning alliance would run missions and mine and sing carebear songs while paying 100x the original $15 fees each to CCP as they alone would have to support all their running costs.
Miss Overlord Gallente Ferrum Pugnus New Eve Order	Posted - 2006.12.09 11:05:00 - [33] Originally by: Miss Overlord CCP lets do away with this intergrated universe to many solo players thinking they are playing some solo player PC space game like elite or x2 or x3. Lets just have a PVE harvesting forum where u cant PVP at all u can harvest missions resources etc in 100% saftey and then Lets have a PVP server ( could just make it SISI) where everything is 100 ISK ships and all and ppl can just bore themselves to death playing PVP with no PVE at all we could call this a fun game where carebears have a server and hardcore PVPers can blow each other up with our limited attention spans no need for probes or anything else then Whos with me my original post was full of sarcasim These posts represent my personal views and not those of my corp or alliance. These do not reflect offical alliance or corp views This is a disclaimer
Jane Spondogolo	Posted - 2006.12.09 11:42:00 - [34] Originally by: Merdaneth Originally by: NocturnalDeath its way out of hand, I don' have time to deal with this on a regular basis, I play for fun, not to be griefed out of asteroid belts. You have the analogy wrong. If CCP enabled everyone to destroy roids with weapons fire, and ppl jumped into your belt and started blowing up all the roids, then your analogy would be somewhat correct. This would be the greatest thing ever. Also, it'd be damn funny if miners could start mining holes in ganker ships with mining lasers. "Woo. that caracal has some nice zyd in it. let me at it!" But yeah, It'd be great to be able to just smack missiles into roids and blow bits off them, and generally run havoc in a macrominers roid field. Or get some bumper domis. and start playing roid soccer.
Zelea Zinc	Posted - 2006.12.09 11:56:00 - [35] Originally by: Jane Spondogolo This would be the greatest thing ever. Also, it'd be damn funny if miners could start mining holes in ganker ships with mining lasers. "Woo. that caracal has some nice zyd in it. let me at it!" That's a brilliant idea. The lasers should go straight to structure too. Maybe they wouldn't be able to whine so much about gankage in the belts.
Isyel Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.12.09 12:11:00 - [36] I wholeheartedly agree! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Originally by: Wrangler We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want both anti-social and social players to grief each other!
Xaildaine	Posted - 2006.12.09 14:07:00 - [37] Leik OMG lolzor yew Caerbare Nub.. Minerz are like in the game for to be Ganked lolz and dis is da PvP game and you need to go play wow and just bring 2 m8s in frigs to escort and ues your T2 drones to PWn the Pirates BS and Nerf the isks you make mining and you should just go to Lowsec so you can fight back and fit ECM and lern to watch local and use your scanner ,... and .. and.. im sorry ..even typeing that in jest just made me die alittle inside
NocturnalDeath Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.09 19:49:00 - [38] Originally by: Shameless Avenger Originally by: Exiled One Originally by: Leverton Is this a real thread? It's a response thread to the idiots that started the 'CCP are anti-social griefers' thread. No it's not a response. Is an attempt to get people to read this thread instead of the other one. In the other one, people have already posted real valid argument for both sides (plus a lot of nonsense). In the other one, nonsense arguments have been pwened. So the OP created this one, knowing many people won't repost the whole thing cuz they are tired of saying the same thing again and again. And as an added strategy, the OP tries to exagerate the issues by saying that whole thing about belts, when the initial issue was missioning and PvE. You're joking right? This thread was created to point out the hypocrisy and imbalance that missions were so difficult to scan in the first place. FFS I AM A MISSION RUNNER! As a MISSION RUNNER I am saying that it is STILL MUCH more difficult to be scanned out than a miner/ratter/trader/hauler/etc.. Hypocrisy and whiney carebares ruining the game.
Breed Love FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.09 19:50:00 - [39] /signed ffs ccp do soemthink or ima quite eve !!1 Originally by: Wrangler We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want both anti-social and social players to grief each other!
Leandro Salazar Aeon Industries Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2006.12.09 20:11:00 - [40] Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 09/12/2006 20:13:47 Originally by: NocturnalDeath As a MISSION RUNNER I am saying that it is STILL MUCH more difficult to be scanned out than a miner/ratter/trader/hauler/etc.. Right now it is maybe slightly more difficult to probe out a mission than to be found in a belt. In a system with many belts I wager that it is actually esier to find a mission runner than a belt guy (or just as easy coz you would probe for both). And if you really were a full-time mission runner (which I somewhat doubt seeing the alliance you come from) you would know that being probed out in a mission has immensly worse consequences than being found in a belt. Not to mention that you can just leave a belt whenever a hostile shows his head in local and come back with next to no penalty, which is not nearly as viable in a mission. So while I agree that you should be accessible to others in a mission at any time, it also must be a lot harder than finding people in belts, and give attentive people enough clue to avoid mishap while causing the careless to get ganked. Old system without the disc issue and using just one probe would be fine. Current system is not. --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
NocturnalDeath Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.09 20:28:00 - [41] Edited by: NocturnalDeath on 09/12/2006 20:28:58 Originally by: Leandro Salazar Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 09/12/2006 20:13:47 Originally by: NocturnalDeath As a MISSION RUNNER I am saying that it is STILL MUCH more difficult to be scanned out than a miner/ratter/trader/hauler/etc.. Right now it is maybe slightly more difficult to probe out a mission than to be found in a belt. In a system with many belts I wager that it is actually esier to find a mission runner than a belt guy (or just as easy coz you would probe for both). And if you really were a full-time mission runner (which I somewhat doubt seeing the alliance you come from) you would know that being probed out in a mission has immensly worse consequences than being found in a belt. Not to mention that you can just leave a belt whenever a hostile shows his head in local and come back with next to no penalty, which is not nearly as viable in a mission. So while I agree that you should be accessible to others in a mission at any time, it also must be a lot harder than finding people in belts, and give attentive people enough clue to avoid mishap while causing the careless to get ganked. Old system without the disc issue and using just one probe would be fine. Current system is not. Yes I run lvl 4 missions, do a show info on me and you will see the corp. Its True Power, I have 9.99 standing. True Power is in 0.0. Use your locator agent to find me, I could use some more exciting targets. I have been scanned out multiple times in the last week, I've only lost one ship. I have scanned out others multiple times in the last week, I've only gotten one kill (so far). The new system still isn't as EASY AS IT SHOULD BE. Try to catch a HAC running lvl 3's for example, by the time the scan is done, he's has finished the mission.
Synapse Archae Amarr Solarflare Heavy Industries	Posted - 2006.12.09 20:32:00 - [42] Funny, but belts != missions. - - - These elite slaves are exceptionally well suited for physical labor.
Leandro Salazar Aeon Industries Confederation of Independent Corporations	Posted - 2006.12.09 20:54:00 - [43] Originally by: NocturnalDeath Edited by: NocturnalDeath on 09/12/2006 20:28:58 Originally by: Leandro Salazar Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 09/12/2006 20:13:47 Originally by: NocturnalDeath As a MISSION RUNNER I am saying that it is STILL MUCH more difficult to be scanned out than a miner/ratter/trader/hauler/etc.. Right now it is maybe slightly more difficult to probe out a mission than to be found in a belt. In a system with many belts I wager that it is actually esier to find a mission runner than a belt guy (or just as easy coz you would probe for both). And if you really were a full-time mission runner (which I somewhat doubt seeing the alliance you come from) you would know that being probed out in a mission has immensly worse consequences than being found in a belt. Not to mention that you can just leave a belt whenever a hostile shows his head in local and come back with next to no penalty, which is not nearly as viable in a mission. So while I agree that you should be accessible to others in a mission at any time, it also must be a lot harder than finding people in belts, and give attentive people enough clue to avoid mishap while causing the careless to get ganked. Old system without the disc issue and using just one probe would be fine. Current system is not. Yes I run lvl 4 missions, do a show info on me and you will see the corp. Its True Power, I have 9.99 standing. True Power is in 0.0. Use your locator agent to find me, I could use some more exciting targets. I have been scanned out multiple times in the last week, I've only lost one ship. I have scanned out others multiple times in the last week, I've only gotten one kill (so far). The new system still isn't as EASY AS IT SHOULD BE. Try to catch a HAC running lvl 3's for example, by the time the scan is done, he's has finished the mission. So you are seriously comparing your occasional 0.0 elite mission running with the lowsec running that is the fulltime occupation for many players? Great. Seems you really are just another of those 'my way or the high way' type gankbears that just want maximum profit for minimum risk from mission runners without even trying to see the whole picture. I have scanned out some 8 of my fellow runners so far in like 6 scans, and each and every one of them would have been dead if I had been the prober for a pirate gang with absolutely nothing they could have done about it (except maybe scanning for probes every 5 secs, but some of them were pinpointed from 17+ AU so even that would not have helped). If you are as unsuccessful as you say you must be doing something wrong... You got a point about the HACs though, part of the problem is that the vast majority of people has to use battleships for lvl4s which are so easy to probe out that it isn't funny. Ah well, lets see what CCP does about it. If it is not good enough you will just get even more deserted lowsec, which in turn will cause a ton of whining again... --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
Brolly Caldari The Department of Justice	Posted - 2006.12.09 21:07:00 - [44] Great post From one side you have piracy is dead, from the other piracy is infesting every apsect of eve. There is a large difference between mission runners and miners/ratters/haulers. Also, by looking at evil local you can pretty much stay out of the way of danger. I have been floating about low sec ratting and have had absolutely no problem. Another thing CCP has given empire dwellers is a symbol which shows you if bad people are in local. It's pretty damn good. On another note, exploration gave the general idea that you could find roid belys away from non-explorers, unfortunately this got ballsed yp. I need a smoke, feel dizzy If I had ú1 for every intelligent comment posted in general discussion, I'd be hideously in debt
NocturnalDeath Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.09 21:09:00 - [45] Eve is about FACTIONAL WARFARE from Jita to Motsu, from Egglehende to the deepest 0.0. Eve is NOT a mission simulator. Full time mission runners do not live in a bubble, they are part fo the factional warfare that is Eve, whether they beleive that or not.
Coerzium	Posted - 2006.12.10 02:57:00 - [46] Was it around 2000 when all the miners and dungeon grinders were demanding to be able to play away from griefers? When they thought they should be able to make massive amounts of money, in a pvp-heavy word, at no risk? And didn't they get Trammel? Isn't that exactly what a lot of the vocal mission runners here are asking for? And are they going to get it? Find out next content patch
Shemar Gallente Photesthetics Glamour Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 03:06:00 - [47] Not even worth reading this thread, just skimming, but just to show how wrong some people are: Miner + high-sec + NPC corp + secure cans = 0% chance of interferance by others. ________________ Enhanced eye sight does not make up for the lack of vision
Coerzium	Posted - 2006.12.10 03:31:00 - [48] Originally by: Shemar Not even worth reading this thread, Apparently this time, it was.
DaveW Caldari South Park Development	Posted - 2006.12.10 04:33:00 - [49] OK, so for a few days the 'Bottom Fish' of EVE get to swim to the top. It will all be over shortly so just let them enjoy it while it lasts. --------------------------------------------------- "If you can't stand the heat..., stay out of the Kitchen."

kieron	Posted - 2006.12.10 05:38:00 - [50] Locked. Whatever you had to say was just invalidated with the acronym in your subject. If you can't take the time to come up with a reasonable subject, then it is hard to justify the time to read the content of your post. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online


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