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Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
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Posted - 2015.08.16 14:20:32 -
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Being excited is terribly exciting, and a great way to sell an idea.
But I just can't get excited about citadels.
For me to get aroused, these citadels, these little pieces of Eden, would need to have some sense of proprietorship, be our own little place in space.
Part of that would involve being able to be creative with it. Making a house a home, our citadel our cottage.
That's an emotional attachment I could be attracted to, rather than the fear that some numbies will come along and wreck everything while I'm offline.
And while fear is a powerful motivator, it's not one I enjoy having in games.
I understand that for many the new citadels will be wonderful, but I'm having trouble finding any emotional link.
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Lfod Shi
Lfod's Ratting and Salvage
278
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Posted - 2015.08.16 14:22:39 -
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I just want a medium place to call my own. No guests allowed! pffft!
GÖ¬ They'll always be bloodclaws to me GÖ½
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25658
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Posted - 2015.08.16 14:23:36 -
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The many threads that keep popping up on the same topic. That's always exciting.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
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Hir Miriel
Elves In Space
222
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Posted - 2015.08.16 14:33:44 -
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Tippia wrote:The many threads that keep popping up on the same topic. That's always exciting.
I'm not a fan of these forums, so I don't keep tabs on the niceties of post management here.
For issues like Citadels, which feel like a missed opportunity, then I think it's important to tell CCP what I think. As far as I know these forums are the way to do that. My apologies for being one of many people who post that way, I do try to be as unboring as possible.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6793
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Posted - 2015.08.16 14:57:54 -
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Hir Miriel wrote:That's an emotional attachment I could be attracted to, rather than the fear that some numbies will come along and wreck everything while I'm offline.
And while fear is a powerful motivator, it's not one I enjoy having in games. Sit in an NPC station and RP as an npc.
I hear that 5z has cheap shipping from highsec
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap, lasersov)) tears.
Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall. If only there was another coalition that existed to destroy them, or more legions to be paid off, or more ceptors.
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Mercur Fighter
Black Aces I N F A M O U S
1
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Posted - 2015.08.16 15:44:30 -
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Hir Miriel wrote:Being excited is terribly exciting, and a great way to sell an idea.
But I just can't get excited about citadels.
For me to get aroused, these citadels, these little pieces of Eden, would need to have some sense of proprietorship, be our own little place in space.
Part of that would involve being able to be creative with it. Making a house a home, our citadel our cottage.
That's an emotional attachment I could be attracted to, rather than the fear that some numbies will come along and wreck everything while I'm offline.
And while fear is a powerful motivator, it's not one I enjoy having in games.
I understand that for many the new citadels will be wonderful, but I'm having trouble finding any emotional link.
I think the new citadels are great, because right now structure bashing is one of the most boring aspects of Eve. It's worse than mining, ratting, or mission running.
With the new structure system, perhaps players will look forward to killing structures. Because they will be generating juicy kill mails, a pile of frozen corpses, and loot.
Perhaps now capitals and supercaps will be relevant again, and they will be used to generate structure kill mails.
It seems like killing the new XL Citadels will generate a kill mail that's equivalent to killing a Titan. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6793
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Posted - 2015.08.16 17:04:13 -
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Mercur Fighter wrote:It seems like killing the new XL Citadels will generate a kill mail that's equivalent to killing a Titan. Entosising current structures just makes them disappear, with no killmail.
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap, lasersov)) tears.
Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall. If only there was another coalition that existed to destroy them, or more legions to be paid off, or more ceptors.
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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
3562
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Posted - 2015.08.16 17:38:55 -
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PRO: A better POS system that removes a large number of headaches and allows docking.
CON: It uses the Entosis Link bullshittery that will almost certainly get me to give up on WH space if it remains in its same sorry state by the time citadels come around. |

Starbuck05
Scope Works
285
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Posted - 2015.08.16 17:50:17 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:PRO: A better POS system that removes a large number of headaches and allows docking.
CON: It uses the Entosis Link bullshittery that will almost certainly get me to give up on WH space if it remains in its same sorry state by the time citadels come around.
Pretty much what she said .
I mean it would be nice .. if you-re in w-space to live from a Citadel instead of a POS , just seems more comfortable ... but on the other hand .. constantly worrying about vulnerability timers and random wizzards coming along waving they-re wand at your Castle seems rather ... meh ...
-á- I am the commanding officer , u should adress me as sir !
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solrac lara
The Soul Society DeepSpace.
13
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Posted - 2015.08.16 18:03:19 -
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THEY ARE100 KM WIDE IMAGINE HAVING YOU OWN DEATH STAR !!!!!!1111 |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25667
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Posted - 2015.08.16 18:07:57 -
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solrac lara wrote:THEY ARE100 KM WIDE IMAGINE HAVING YOU OWN DEATH STAR !!!!!!1111 That's a very tiny Death StarGǪ
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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solrac lara
The Soul Society DeepSpace.
13
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Posted - 2015.08.16 18:10:14 -
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Tippia wrote:solrac lara wrote:THEY ARE100 KM WIDE IMAGINE HAVING YOU OWN DEATH STAR !!!!!!1111 That's a very tiny Death StarGǪ
If im not wrong the first deathstar was 120 kms wide while the second one was 160 kms not as big and there is also the fact that the deathstar is a sphere while the citadels are i dont know squares or something like that but its a start  |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
25667
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Posted - 2015.08.16 18:13:44 -
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solrac lara wrote:Tippia wrote:solrac lara wrote:THEY ARE100 KM WIDE IMAGINE HAVING YOU OWN DEATH STAR !!!!!!1111 That's a very tiny Death StarGǪ If im not wrong the first deathstar was 120 kms wide while the second one was 160 kms not as big but its a start  Wookiepedia quotes them at 160 and 900 km respectively, and as we all know, the internet is always right.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Eli Apol
Definitely a nullsec alt
464
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Posted - 2015.08.16 20:05:04 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Hir Miriel wrote:That's an emotional attachment I could be attracted to, rather than the fear that some numbies will come along and wreck everything while I'm offline.
And while fear is a powerful motivator, it's not one I enjoy having in games. Sit in an NPC station and RP as an npc. I hear that 5z has cheap shipping from highsec
"...existing NPC stations and outposts (before we nuke them that is)"
Love me a goon that doesn't read the devblogs and then spams the forums :)
but what would I know, I'm just a salvager
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6793
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Posted - 2015.08.16 20:15:34 -
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the npcs will get citadels but they won't be destoyable by us
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap, lasersov)) tears.
Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall. If only there was another coalition that existed to destroy them, or more legions to be paid off, or more ceptors.
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stoicfaux
6198
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Posted - 2015.08.16 20:30:22 -
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Tippia wrote:solrac lara wrote:Tippia wrote:solrac lara wrote:THEY ARE100 KM WIDE IMAGINE HAVING YOU OWN DEATH STAR !!!!!!1111 That's a very tiny Death StarGǪ If im not wrong the first deathstar was 120 kms wide while the second one was 160 kms not as big but its a start  Wookiepedia quotes them at 160 and 900 km respectively, and as we all know, the internet is always right. Let's see, we know how wide the Death Star trench is because we know the size of an X-Wing (Mark Hamill's size and the close up of Luke and X-Wing on Dagobah) and since we know the Death Star is a sphere, we can determine the radius/diameter of the Death star based on the size of the trench (i.e. how many trenches "tall" is the Death Star,) so that means...
/nerdgasm
Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6793
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Posted - 2015.08.17 03:03:14 -
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But really they're not that exciting, was that what you were fishing for, basically?
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap, lasersov)) tears.
Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall. If only there was another coalition that existed to destroy them, or more legions to be paid off, or more ceptors.
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Arthur Aihaken
Perkone Caldari State
4577
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Posted - 2015.08.17 03:12:12 -
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Entosis links. Can't you feel the excitement?
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
6995
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Posted - 2015.08.17 05:05:09 -
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Citadels man. Catapults and boiling oil and stuff.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
481
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Posted - 2015.08.17 06:48:17 -
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Tippia wrote:solrac lara wrote:THEY ARE100 KM WIDE IMAGINE HAVING YOU OWN DEATH STAR !!!!!!1111 That's a very tiny Death StarGǪ
That's no MoonGäó
it's the Pepsi One of death stars.
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
966
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Posted - 2015.08.17 07:12:32 -
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I just hope they plan to phase out a lot of the existing NPC stations, in all levels of space. Converting existing outposts into XLCs is also a good start.
Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.
I invented Tiericide
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6796
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Posted - 2015.08.17 07:15:04 -
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As long as they replace them with equally unentosisable NPC citadels.
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap, lasersov)) tears.
Every change leaves the badguys just about to fall. If only there was another coalition that existed to destroy them, or more legions to be paid off, or more ceptors.
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Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
966
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Posted - 2015.08.17 07:18:18 -
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NPCs control too much space, always have. 95% of EvE should be drone regions.
Star Jump Drive A new way to traverse the galaxy.
I invented Tiericide
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
913
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Posted - 2015.08.17 07:35:18 -
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solrac lara wrote:THEY ARE100 KM WIDE IMAGINE HAVING YOU OWN DEATH STAR !!!!!!1111 Well the Death Stars were also able to move around and, you know, alpha entire planets. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1443
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Posted - 2015.08.17 14:29:13 -
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solrac lara wrote:Tippia wrote:solrac lara wrote:THEY ARE100 KM WIDE IMAGINE HAVING YOU OWN DEATH STAR !!!!!!1111 That's a very tiny Death StarGǪ If im not wrong the first deathstar was 120 kms wide while the second one was 160 kms not as big and there is also the fact that the deathstar is a sphere while the citadels are i dont know squares or something like that but its a start 
So they are not Death Stars they are Borg Cubes ?
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SFM Hobb3s
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
347
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Posted - 2015.08.17 19:42:40 -
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Hoping the new citadels will be independently strong enough that there is no realistic way to entosis them other than with capital ships. Suddenly caps relevant. |

solrac lara
The Soul Society DeepSpace.
13
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Posted - 2015.08.17 20:17:29 -
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Primary This Rifter wrote:solrac lara wrote:THEY ARE100 KM WIDE IMAGINE HAVING YOU OWN DEATH STAR !!!!!!1111 Well the Death Stars were also able to move around and, you know, alpha entire planets.
That would make PI alot funnier
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Market McSelling Alt
Bernie Madoff Investment Services LLC
483
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Posted - 2015.08.17 20:48:43 -
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solrac lara wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:solrac lara wrote:THEY ARE100 KM WIDE IMAGINE HAVING YOU OWN DEATH STAR !!!!!!1111 Well the Death Stars were also able to move around and, you know, alpha entire planets. That would make PI alot funnier
Or Dust...
"Hey man, why are you hovering over our battlefield... Dude why are you powering up that thing..."
It is as if a million XBox Live accounts, suddenly cried out... 
Best description of Eve Online and why the community is the way it is
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Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
1132
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Posted - 2015.08.17 21:21:43 -
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SFM Hobb3s wrote:Hoping the new citadels will be independently strong enough that there is no realistic way to entosis them other than with capital ships. Suddenly caps relevant. I would be perfectly fine with that. However, I am sure some alliances would cry like hell, because carriers are expensive, or something. #thirdworldproblems |

Commander Spurty
Dimension Door We need wards.
1550
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Posted - 2015.08.18 03:43:07 -
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All this BS crying about wanting to shoot structures and yet, there's 30+ MTUs outside jita 4-4 untouched
Therefore, Even when there are structures to blow up, you moan like merry hell.
Give it a rest already. You're fooling no one and the price of salt is in free fall.
The citadels have multiple timers.
Do they even have targetable guns? It looks to me like the guns can't be destroyed. Could be wrong. I don't think interceptors will be much use if the guns start shooting
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