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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.08.19 03:09:29 -
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MrQuisno wrote:they need to remove the x5 off the capitals.. why ? they can't get remote repairs and they are looking for a fight
So we could do all the entosising with titans and have remote-rep fleets available to jump in from a central location while they turn off their 2-minute cycling T2 link?
Really, the multiplier on caps is a good thing. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1081
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Posted - 2015.08.19 17:55:16 -
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Warmeister wrote:Skia Aumer wrote:
Diagnosis: OP. Treatment: on top of suggested MWD-jamming feature of enthosis, maybe reducing its cargo and increasing strontium consumption on enthosis would do a trick. Tackling interceptor - yes, shuttle - yes, cyno-shuttle - no, sov-shuttle - no.
it's only OP when no one shows up to defend. if someone did show up, all they need is an entosis module to successfully prevent ceptor from capturing sov.
Let's not be dumb here.
The first notification goes out when the 'warm-up' cycle finishes. The defender's entosis link doesn't actually start contesting the capture until its warm-up cycle has finished. So on a newly taken system, the defender will have...
4 minutes.
So you undock... and hope you don't tidi yourself... and now you've got 3 minutes, 40 seconds (just timed the undocking in a system w/no tidi and only 10 people).
warp time can be another minute.
2 minutes 40 seconds to react. Yeah. that's gonna promote fights.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1081
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Posted - 2015.08.19 17:58:14 -
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Querns wrote:A guy posting on a forum claims that he was part of "weaponized boredom" tactics and didn't get a fight. The Imperium is the most widely-known user of said tactics, and unless specifically qualified, the status quo demands that any mention of "weaponized boredom" automatically means "the Imperium." ?
Especially as the initial quote given was 'No Fun Allowed', which was used extensively - and almost exclusively on fleets - by Reagalan. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1081
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Posted - 2015.08.19 18:05:32 -
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Tallardar wrote:It's really sad that the built in spellcheck for the forums didn't even give you the indication that your grammar was atrocious.
Edit - I'll also point out that 1) MoA were part of those "blue blob" doughnut groups for a while, and 2) you can't put artificial limits on social dynamics in a game.
Dude, I so miss you sometimes. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1081
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Posted - 2015.08.19 18:21:35 -
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Tallardar wrote:Arrendis wrote:Dude, I so miss you sometimes. I don't miss you though.
You never shoot at me! |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1081
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Posted - 2015.08.19 18:24:01 -
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Robert Warner wrote:1. Uncontested sov falls back to original owner after a time lapse.
Build this into node decay: if a node decays, it counts as a defensive win. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1081
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Posted - 2015.08.19 18:33:19 -
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Tallardar wrote:Arrendis wrote:Tallardar wrote:Arrendis wrote:Dude, I so miss you sometimes. I don't miss you though. You never shoot at me! That would require undocking.
Wait... how can you dock, all you guys have are supercapitals!
WAITAMINNIT! When did you go PHorde? Yer ruinin' mah illusions here, man! |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1081
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Posted - 2015.08.19 19:22:20 -
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Awright, now, you stop making sense this instant! |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1081
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Posted - 2015.08.19 19:35:07 -
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Gella Delon wrote: Its like handicap-accessible pvp.
Hey, Gommel Nox comes out and does his part on Reaver ops. No lumping the handicapped in w/MOA.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1085
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Posted - 2015.08.19 20:05:14 -
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Icycle wrote:That rev was owner by a CFC guy. There was some dispute about who really owner it in the CFC. So they decided to blow it up but they did not wanted it in their killboard and thought if they join MOA it will look better. The same character rejoined CFC the day after.
Had nothing to do with our killboards. We just thought it'd look funnier on yours. |
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1087
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Posted - 2015.08.20 00:59:46 -
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Orca Platypus wrote:Gewns and UAxDEATH try being dominionfags and fail pathetically. Working as intended.
It's really kind of disingenuous to claim some minor hiccups during a sov transfer is 'fail pathetically'. Where are all the timers in Deklein? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1097
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Posted - 2015.08.20 16:30:07 -
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afkalt wrote:And I'm not talking about catching the inty. Go RF all their POS, hellcamp the place the call home. Go dish out some retribution.
POS's get RF'd (and killed) fairly regularly. As for hellcamping... how do you hellcamp interceptors again? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1097
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Posted - 2015.08.20 16:35:20 -
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Dracvlad wrote: You Goonies as the Imperium along with your NIP with PL and the affects of the Dominion system have destroyed the game, true you had big fleet battles, but 10% tidi for 20 hours, wow but no thanks.
First point: 23.5 hrs, thanks.
Quote: Some cretins on this thread, and I use that deliberately have said that people who do not hold sov at this point have no voice, I will tell you to F off, I have held sov in the past and intend to do so again, what I am waiting for is the Imperium and PL to crumble and people to start ignoring the poorer systems, once that happens I intend to move in.
Second point: OH MY GOD WHY IS THIS ONE SENTENCE?
Third point: It's not 'people who don't hold sov', but 'people who haven't and/or have no intention of holding sov'.
Fourth: Exactly what effect do you think any sov system will have on Pandemic Legion, when they typically never hold sov, they just come in and bust up yours?
Quote: And what MOA is doing in Pure Blind is harassment of an enemy who has already put off their much talked about invasion of Provi, because of what exactly? The feeling that they cannot allow MOA to take systems. I call that a big win for Eve.
So you're saying not having conflict is good for EVE? Interesting!
Quote:Stay strong CCP, I am having a ball at this moment.
Too late.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1098
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Posted - 2015.08.20 16:53:11 -
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Dersen Lowery wrote: In other words, Aegis sov, which all told is meant to spread the workload out, is fundamentally incompatible with this alliance structure.
Aegis sov, unfortunately, just isn't engaging at all. I've had FW people tell me 'that really sucks for you guys. Trust us, orbiting a button in space is a crap mechanic'. They keep doing it because the direct LP awards mean there's a chance they'll get a fight. The size limits on the node means there's even a reasonable chance it's going to be an almost fair fight*. It's not guaranteed - it's not even likely - but there's still a reasonable chance.
But it's still boring as heck gameplay, and other than watching d-scan for someone coming into their plex, yeah, they're basically afk'ing.
And that's what's getting expanded by orders of magnitude here. A boring mechanic that only works in FW because those guys have a (wait for it.... ) conflict driver in place beneath the mechanic: LP. And more, taking 1 or even 11 FW plexes won't flip a system. It's something like 50 of them to make the system assaultable, then they have to go and shoot the ihub.
You know, the thing we don't do anymore?
That doesn't mean the conceptual elements are bad - the ADMs are awesome. The idea of spreading the fight out over the constellation is wonderful. The execution of it - mimicking Faction Warfare's bad element without the counterbalancing good element - isn't.
* - Mind you, outside of (and even in them, really) those FW complexes, a 'fair fight' in EVE is generally either something pre-arranged... or someone screwing up. Not just in null, either. How many highsec wardec corps go for 'a fair fight'? How many lowsec groups say 'wait, they've only got three guys, you twenty wait here'?
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1103
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Posted - 2015.08.20 17:41:22 -
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Dracvlad wrote:Arrendis wrote:Dracvlad wrote:And what MOA is doing in Pure Blind is harassment of an enemy who has already put off their much talked about invasion of Provi, because of what exactly? The feeling that they cannot allow MOA to take systems. I call that a big win for Eve. So you're saying not having conflict is good for EVE? Interesting! Actually people are feeling out the new system, there are some major fights occurring, the Intiative vs Gentlemans Club is one such example. These bigger escalation will start happening more and more, because they can not be easily third partied and there are systems that will be more important for a full on fight
Except, as has been mentioned by those involved, that fight had nothing to do with Sov.
Just like my egg sandwich this morning isn't an indication that Aegis Sov is great because I had bacon. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1103
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Posted - 2015.08.20 17:53:30 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote: Bacon is always a good indicator.
Fair point. Lemme rephrase
Dracvlad wrote: Actually people are feeling out the new system, there are some major fights occurring, the Intiative vs Gentlemans Club is one such example. These bigger escalation will start happening more and more, because they can not be easily third partied and there are systems that will be more important for a full on fight
Hey, look! Some Imperium Alliances and some N3 Alliances shot one another! Clearly, WALKING IN STATIONS is a huge success! Who cares if the fight wasn't about the best way to play barbies, right? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1105
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Posted - 2015.08.20 19:11:16 -
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Icycle wrote:unlike your alliance right?
You know, not to defend PL or nothin', but when a single corp in an alliance can lose 3 trillion in a day and the corp and alliance recover w/in 9 months, you really can't say they're not doing something right.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1106
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Posted - 2015.08.20 21:38:49 -
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Icycle wrote:Arrendis wrote:Icycle wrote:unlike your alliance right? You know, not to defend PL or nothin', but when a single corp in an alliance can lose 3 trillion in a day and the corp and alliance recover w/in 9 months, you really can't say they're not doing something right. I am just simply saying the fact. I dont concider them PL. Yes they have some PL members and they maybe an extension of PL. But far from PL.
Right, but PHorde is a newbie-training alliance. So... what? You're gonna scoff at newbies for not having billions of ISK? Wow, sick burn. What's next, mocking CONDI for not dominating Faction Warfare? |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1107
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Posted - 2015.08.21 04:05:29 -
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Warmeister wrote:Querns wrote: You're still approaching this conversation with an Imperium-focused bent. Why?
because you are pretty much the only ones complaining in this thread
Other than the members of NCdot, BL, people in PL who aren't you, and others who've actually dealt with sov.
None of your arguments address the fact that 'orbit button in space' is boring as heck, non-engaging gameplay that makes up the other half of the complaints. |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1107
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Posted - 2015.08.21 04:09:25 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Harry Saq wrote:but what the hell do I know, I am just in one of those small alliances that has been actively participating in the new mechanics on a day to day basis... So you're a sovtroll? I can see why you might want to maintain that.
No, he's ex-LAWN, and he's apparently bitter that Blue-P didn't want to leave Fountain. |
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1110
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Posted - 2015.08.21 13:28:58 -
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FT Diomedes wrote:I'm still bitter about siegefleet. As a member of many a siegefleet, it was ******* horrible.
How can you be bitter about siegefleet? Siege & Sing w/Suas was where we first got to hear Boat's Oddity... live and unplugged, even! |
Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1110
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Posted - 2015.08.21 13:44:47 -
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baltec1 wrote:Lets be honest, the only competent gate camps in our space are run by hostiles.
Or Boat's inty-killing Levi.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1110
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Posted - 2015.08.21 13:55:59 -
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bigbillthaboss3 wrote:No, it is only 4 or so of us. It's not like we are burning Jita or something along those lines in protest.
Shockingly, it's more or less the exact same people who were saying 'yeah, trollceptors will be a thing' before the Entosis came out, and got told 'no no, of course they won't! look at everything we've done to prevent them'.
To which, of course, we responded with 'they'll ping the node, forcing form-ups, then run off to the next one', which, again, we were assured couldn't possibly be a thing.
So, you know, lemme know when our critics start having any track record of being right about anything.
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Arrendis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1113
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Posted - 2015.08.21 14:31:16 -
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afkalt wrote:e: I wager should you have bothered, you could have steamrollered provi in dominion sov a hell of a lot faster than you'll ever manage in Aegis.
Not possible. Simply not enough hours in the day to grind that many structures under Dominion in under 2 weeks. Remember, when PL/NCdot went on their massive 24-hr reconquista in the middle the of the Fountain war, that was due to sov drops. |
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