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Altony Compagno Republic University Minmatar Republic 15	Posted - 2015.08.26 21:32:29 - [31] - Quote Lessons learned the last two days: Patience is not my strong suit, but I am learning. As I can't fit much in the way of armor, guns, or the other things referenced in the rifter video, I wait. Waiting doesn't have to entail sitting in station. If you make a Russian angry enough, they will try to kill you and are blown up by concord. You really have to be on the ball to kill someone in their pod after their ship blows up. Criminal status turns passers-by into gunslingers. I am looking at you, Seth Tonic. *I now have a killright. I relish using it. A week in and I feel like I am developing an arch-nemesis relationship with the angry russian. So fun.
Rawketsled Generic Corp Name 265	Posted - 2015.08.26 21:54:30 - [32] - Quote Best to sell the kill right. Make it publicly available, at a price that makes you money but is high enough that someone will want to spend on it. Then, sometime in the next 30 days, you'll get a lovely evemail and some more padding to your wallet.
Sonya Corvinus Chickenhawk. 134	Posted - 2015.08.26 22:25:53 - [33] - Quote Altony Compagno wrote: If you make a Russian angry enough, they will try to kill you and are blown up by concord. The next trophy you will get is your first hate mail written in Russian. My last one was 100% worth the time it took to use google translate and find out I'm apparently a ***
Deuce McGuilicuddy Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation Holy Arumbian Empire 37	Posted - 2015.08.27 09:29:51 - [34] - Quote Can confirm, Russian hate mails are some of the funniest things one can experience. They either have some of the funniest insults on earth that I just don't get, or google translate borked their words into hilarity. Either way, never not shoot the Russians.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 11456	Posted - 2015.08.27 10:30:30 - [35] - Quote dude would you do us a favour and pop your api into https://zkillboard.com or http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/ so we can monitor your adventures Edit: and by that i mean kills and losses, much like the link in my sig Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Altony Compagno Republic University Minmatar Republic 19	Posted - 2015.08.27 15:36:45 - [36] - Quote I chose zkillboard.com. Is that one the preferred one to use? Oh, and I have my first death up already. Go me. I had found a glacial belt, when I came upon it I was in suspect status from earlier shenanigans, taking ore from a container that wasn't mine and looting wrecks and stuff. There was a retriever ship there mining, and it had drones out and locked me up. This may or may not have been after I swooped around in some, locked up the drones, and generally tried to get him angry. Alas, he was French, and not Russian, so he wouldn't actually shoot. Then came a german. I was not ready for that. Being in suspect status I knew I was fair game, but I guess I didnt understand cloaking very well because out of nowhere a guy in a Hound locked me up, scrambled me, and unleashed torpedos. Of course, the Frenchman started to shoot at that point. I was able to get out of their in my capsule to live another day. Unfortunately I didnt get a kill right on the german. Is that because I was in suspect status?
Paranoid Loyd 6772	Posted - 2015.08.27 15:53:10 - [37] - Quote Yes to both questions. Go Altony! More shenanigans! "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3115	Posted - 2015.08.27 16:15:21 - [38] - Quote Bombers don't do squat for damage agianst frigate hulls. If you had been fit properly you would have been able to win that fight. You should pretty much always have a propulsion module fit and if you're doing suspect shenanigans in highsec your fit should generally emphasize tank. Fit an afterburner and armor rigs and that kind of situation will work out a lot better. Also people who fly bombers in highsec are bad, you probably weren't even warp disrupted during that.
Altony Compagno Republic University Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2015.08.27 16:33:40 - [39] - Quote Well it certainly did enough against a clueless noob in his first fight. I had turned on my armor repairer, but I dont think I did so soon enough. I was so excited that I was shot at, thinking it was the retriever, then when I realized there was another ship there I didn't have long enough to figure out what was going on, unlock the retriever and drone, and lock the hound up or anything. When I realized I was dying I tried to warp away and it was telling me something was preventing it. I assumed it was the hound. I didnt have the skill trained for the warpdrive when I left the station earlier. I had planned to have one there. I will go with an afterburner instead, it may actually fit better. Thanks for the advice with the rig selection. I'd watched a youtube video and built the ship exactly how they did. I just didnt fly it exactly how he did. Ha ha. Now as I am thinking about it, I wonder if I actually agressed the retriever on accident when the hound started shooting at me. When I went back later concord was in the belt. It was like 25 minutes later, but they werent there earlier. If they showed up and disrupted me for aggressing (web and scrambled) the retriever at the same time as the hound was shooting at me, would they be on the killmail? I will definitely be more prepared next time! Thank you.
Azda Ja Green Skull LLC 4315	Posted - 2015.08.27 16:37:00 - [40] - Quote I love it. Go Altony go! Because sometimes you die. And sometimes we are why. GSLLC is Recruiting. Grrr I tell you. Grrr.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3117	Posted - 2015.08.27 16:42:02 - [41] - Quote There's no CONCORD on your loss mail. It was all hound. So long as your safety is not set red you won't be able to do anything that causes a CONCORD response. Ice belts very often have CONCORD ships in them because the barges there attract suicide gankers, which is probably what the houn was in the belt for (gankers attract anti-gankers who basically just shoot the ganker to get free killmails).
Altony Compagno Republic University Minmatar Republic 22	Posted - 2015.08.27 16:45:17 - [42] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: There's no CONCORD on your loss mail. It was all hound. So long as your safety is not set red you won't be able to do anything that causes a CONCORD response. Ice belts very often have CONCORD ships in them because the barges there attract suicide gankers, which is probably what the houn was in the belt for (gankers attract anti-gankers who basically just shoot the ganker to get free killmails). That makes sense. Looking at the German's zkill stuff it looks like he did just kill a ganker the other day, too. Well crap. It feels good to have my first death out of the way, but I sure could use a kill. On to the next!
Sonya Corvinus Chickenhawk. 137	Posted - 2015.08.27 17:09:20 - [43] - Quote EVE logs all combat automatically, it's in a menu on the left hand toolbar in game and saved to C:\Users\username\Documents\EVE\Logs out of game. If you check out the logs from the fight, you can see when the hound first targeted you and how much time passed before you attacked back. It can be helpful to see how much damage you did/what your response time was/etc once the adrenaline wears off
Cara Forelli Green Skull LLC 1213	Posted - 2015.08.27 17:42:26 - [44] - Quote Altony Compagno wrote: Well crap. It feels good to have my first death out of the way, but I sure could use a kill. On to the next! I would say, add that hound to your watchlist and see if you can track him down and bait him out again. As Vimsy said, stealth bombers do not apply well to frigates at all, so with a complete fit and a little less nerves you can probably take him down. In general, frigates will tear apart a stealth bomber. Your DPS will be fairly low from skills so it may be a bit closer in your case but should still be manageable. Protip: Moving helps mitigate damage from missiles (especially "large" class missiles like torpedoes from the Hound). Moving with an afterburner will mitigate even more damage (by increasing your speed but not your signature radius like an mwd). And don't forget your rep! Your lossmail shows it was still full of paste so you didn't get to finish a cycle in that fight. Better plan on hitting it earlier next time. Adventures New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: *House Forelli* Titan's Lament
Sonya Corvinus Chickenhawk. 139	Posted - 2015.08.27 18:31:09 - [45] - Quote One more general piece of advice that I wish someone game me when I first started is to set up the test server on your computer. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Singularity It's a parallel server that devs use to test new content, but you can log in with your current player/current skills/etc. All items in the game are 100isk, and there are two combat 'arena' systems, so you can fit a rifter, call out in local asking someone in a hound to come attack you, and practice fights. No losses show up on zkillboard, it has no effect on your actual character, but it is a great way to get better/test out fits/etc.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3120	Posted - 2015.08.27 19:04:32 - [46] - Quote Flying around annoying people in an ice belt absolutely will result in you getting kills, however because you're entirely reliant on someone else shooting first, any anyone in the entire game can shoot you without penalty it requires quite a lot of care and attention.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 727	Posted - 2015.08.27 19:35:34 - [47] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: As it is impossible to communicate with the Russians because of their strangely shaped letters coexistence is impossible. Blow up all of their things. Babel Fish or google translate or a dozen other free apps makes it pretty easy.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 727	Posted - 2015.08.27 19:36:46 - [48] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: i have only seen the eve community agree on a handfull of things and those are, the old moa was hidious the new domi is gorgeous shoot at the Russians I usually agree with you Ralph but I rather dislike the new domi. I want my old domi back
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 728	Posted - 2015.08.27 19:47:39 - [49] - Quote Altony Compagno wrote: Vimsy Vortis wrote: There's no CONCORD on your loss mail. It was all hound. So long as your safety is not set red you won't be able to do anything that causes a CONCORD response. Ice belts very often have CONCORD ships in them because the barges there attract suicide gankers, which is probably what the houn was in the belt for (gankers attract anti-gankers who basically just shoot the ganker to get free killmails). That makes sense. Looking at the German's zkill stuff it looks like he did just kill a ganker the other day, too. Well crap. It feels good to have my first death out of the way, but I sure could use a kill. On to the next! you can search by system on zkillboard to sometimes help clear up questions like this. Also with regards to figuring out what is going on I think you need to learn how to set up your overview
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 11473	Posted - 2015.08.27 19:56:05 - [50] - Quote ergherhdfgh wrote: with regards to figuring out what is going on I think you need to learn how to set up your overview Very true, op should read this Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Sonya Corvinus Chickenhawk. 139	Posted - 2015.08.27 20:23:35 - [51] - Quote ergherhdfgh wrote: you can search by system on zkillboard to sometimes help clear up questions like this. Also with regards to figuring out what is going on I think you need to learn how to set up your overview What by chance is the phonetic pronunciation of your name?
Azda Ja Green Skull LLC 4319	Posted - 2015.08.27 20:29:57 - [52] - Quote Sonya Corvinus wrote: ergherhdfgh wrote: you can search by system on zkillboard to sometimes help clear up questions like this. Also with regards to figuring out what is going on I think you need to learn how to set up your overview What by chance is the phonetic pronunciation of your name? I imagine it's like saying "er muh gerd" with a full mouth. Because sometimes you die. And sometimes we are why. GSLLC is Recruiting. Grrr I tell you. Grrr.
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 730	Posted - 2015.08.27 20:37:09 - [53] - Quote Sonya Corvinus wrote: ergherhdfgh wrote: you can search by system on zkillboard to sometimes help clear up questions like this. Also with regards to figuring out what is going on I think you need to learn how to set up your overview What by chance is the phonetic pronunciation of your name? I never intended this toon to become what it is. The name is just a keyboard mash. It took me 0.73179 seconds to type this name so that is how it got chosen. It was never meant to be used or pronounced. It's one of those things that seemed like a good idea at the time later on I wished I had done it differently. Like taken at least 4 or 5 seconds to think of a name.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 11473	Posted - 2015.08.27 20:42:16 - [54] - Quote ergherhdfgh wrote: Sonya Corvinus wrote: ergherhdfgh wrote: you can search by system on zkillboard to sometimes help clear up questions like this. Also with regards to figuring out what is going on I think you need to learn how to set up your overview What by chance is the phonetic pronunciation of your name? I never intended this toon to become what it is. The name is just a keyboard mash. It took me 0.73179 seconds to type this name so that is how it got chosen. It was never meant to be used or pronounced. It's one of those things that seemed like a good idea at the time later on I wished I had done it differently. Like taken at least 4 or 5 seconds to think of a name. i had a feeling it was something like mashing your face off the keyboard...good to know i wasn't far off. Which actually reminds me of more advice for the op : when making an alt for yourself (you will eventually i can tell) don't give it a name similar to your own, they have waaaaay more utility if they aren't obvious Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 730	Posted - 2015.08.27 20:59:38 - [55] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: ergherhdfgh wrote: Sonya Corvinus wrote: ergherhdfgh wrote: you can search by system on zkillboard to sometimes help clear up questions like this. Also with regards to figuring out what is going on I think you need to learn how to set up your overview What by chance is the phonetic pronunciation of your name? I never intended this toon to become what it is. The name is just a keyboard mash. It took me 0.73179 seconds to type this name so that is how it got chosen. It was never meant to be used or pronounced. It's one of those things that seemed like a good idea at the time later on I wished I had done it differently. Like taken at least 4 or 5 seconds to think of a name. i had a feeling it was something like mashing your face off the keyboard...good to know i wasn't far off. Which actually reminds me of more advice for the op : when making an alt for yourself (you will eventually i can tell) don't give it a name similar to your own, they have waaaaay more utility if they aren't obvious Ya you nailed that one. I made this toon to scout out a low sec jump for me very early into my eve career. I was trying to avoid a situation like you pointed out where someone would see "Bob's scout alt" jump into system followed by "Bob" and then have people wondering what I was carrying that warranted a scout alt. So yes your pirate spidey senses were right on there. Or maybe I should say your sith lord dark side powers.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 11473	Posted - 2015.08.27 21:36:33 - [56] - Quote ergherhdfgh wrote: Or maybe I should say your sith lord dark side powers. Good Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3120	Posted - 2015.08.27 23:35:57 - [57] - Quote Erg-Her-Hud-Fug
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 24907	Posted - 2015.08.28 14:09:22 - [58] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: Erg-Her-Hud-Fug If you really love me, you'll swallow that. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Altony Compagno Republic University Minmatar Republic 23	Posted - 2015.08.28 20:55:33 - [59] - Quote Fewer lessons today as my play time was brief. I spent most of it trying my best to adjust my overview, move the window around, adjust the camera, etc. I think I have a plan that may be delayed over the weekend, but in place next week. We will see. It will likely end in yet another death for me, or revenge. Steadily training the skills recommended by the countless threads here, videos, and blog posts. Thank you all for your help. I think my goal will be to fly frigates and destroyers, minmatar and gallente, and try to do them very well before moving on to anything else. It seems like a long (and expensive) road.
Niko Johnson Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 4	Posted - 2015.08.28 21:50:58 - [60] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: Oh no worries mate, I actually put more on your head than I gave you (to help with the reputation) don't worry, bountys have no in game impact whatsoever beyond bragging rights. But yeah as we discussed, skills would be a great investment at this point. You sir are a genius! You make it seem like you just put a bounty on his head for fun. But in fact it's a cheap way to get automated updates (in the form of bounty payouts) on this adventure seeking newbro. A subscription to 'The glorious explosions of Altony Compagno' or just 'The early days' if you will. Pretty cheap entertainment if you ask me Here's a medal. This is EVE.

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