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Altony Compagno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.08.24 17:28:29 -
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How does reinforcement work, exactly?
I saw a Mobile Depot floating in a belt where the career guy sent me to mine, and it had Russian writing so I decided to try to kill it. I went back to the space station, put guns on instead of miners, and went out to try my luck.
It took FOREVER. And then it didn't explode. I was close to killing the shields when it went invulnerable. A guy in local said that it was in reinforcement and I would have to wait until the timer ran out.
Will anyone else be able to kill it between now and then? What happens when it comes out of reinforced? Will it be open for anyone to kill it then, or just me, and how long does it stay vulnerable?
Thanks ahead of time. I am a handful of days into my trial and am having a good time, even though my first attempt at space piracy was a bust!
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Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
4251
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Posted - 2015.08.24 18:00:17 -
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The reinforcement timer depend son the structure. With starbases it's based on how much strontium fuel they have. With a depot I believe the time is 48 hours.
Once it's out of reinforced its goes back to being vulnerable for anyone else to kill.
During this time, however, the owner can come back and just scoop it back up. And if they're so inclined, could even redeploy it in the same spot and then leave it there with a new reinforce state like nothing ever happened.
I believe depots have a way to self-reset their reinforce state, but U forgot how long that is or what the criteria is. With starbases it was something like once the shield goes over 75% it can be reinforced again.
The Drake is a Lie
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Altony Compagno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.08.24 18:04:58 -
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So if the owner comes back they can negate all that time I spent trying to kill it?
How would someone ever get rid of one of these things? I can't read Russian so I am not sure what it says, but they are spammed all over in the belts that I mine in. I am guessing it is an ad or something.
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Sonya Corvinus
Chickenhawk.
123
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Posted - 2015.08.24 18:06:55 -
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What Xercodo said. Definitely bookmark the location and check back after 48 hrs on the off chance he hasn't checked and picked it up, but it becomes 100% invulnerable on reinforcement when it hits 25% shields.
What were you attacking with? I think they only have around 5,000 EHP or something like that |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11395
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Posted - 2015.08.24 18:08:38 -
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Altony Compagno wrote: it had Russian writing so I decided to try to kill it.
Hahaha
It was likely a recruitment mtu, if it was in a newbie system then I'd say it was with a fair bit of certainty.
Btw "Russian" written characters are called Cyrillic
Better the Devil you know.
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Altony Compagno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.08.24 18:10:49 -
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Thank you.
I only had one ship, the one they give you to start. I was doing the industrial agent guy's missions first so I have that and a Venture mining ship so far and that isn't for fighting, is it? I bought the best guns and ammo I could afford (I think) for that starting ship.
5,000 is a lot by 6-15s!
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Altony Compagno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.08.24 18:16:04 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Altony Compagno wrote: it had Russian writing so I decided to try to kill it.
Hahaha It was likely a recruitment mtu, if it was in a newbie system then I'd say it was with a fair bit of certainty. Btw "Russian" written characters are called Cyrillic
Thank you. Learn something new every day!
It was a newbie system, you are right, in Minmatar space with the career agents.
I guess I should try to kill something else next, eh? Maybe a new thread for that. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11399
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Posted - 2015.08.24 18:21:56 -
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Altony Compagno wrote:Thank you.
I only had one ship, the one they give you to start. I was doing the industrial agent guy's missions first so I have that and a Venture mining ship so far and that isn't for fighting, is it? I bought the best guns and ammo I could afford (I think) for that starting ship.
5,000 is a lot by 6-15s!
You're my new favourite nubie.
Couple of hours in and rearing to go, love it.
And people say newbies need protecting from PvP...
Keep up with the tutorials mate,
the particularly useful ones would be the combat and the exploration ones ( they're going to give you ships,skills and pointers on some useful skills)
afterwards look for the sisters of eve epic arc ( little research goes a long way here) and that should send you around the place a bit and set you up with a little bit of isk.
Better the Devil you know.
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Altony Compagno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.08.24 18:28:25 -
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Thanks for the tips. I did quit the industrial agent, so I will start the other paths tonight.
So much to learn. So little time. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11400
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Posted - 2015.08.24 18:45:18 -
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"The two most powerful warriors are patience and time"
Edit: they do if you kill it, don't think so otherwise but I could be wrong.
Better the Devil you know.
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Sonya Corvinus
Chickenhawk.
123
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Posted - 2015.08.24 19:05:39 -
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Kind of on topic, kind of off topic, but posting this in the hopes you keep shooting things.
Mobile Depots have a 2 day reinforcement timer, Mobile Tractor Units do not, so if you come across one of those, you will be able to blow it up immediately. They have more EHP (50k-ish) than depots, but those are the two most widely used mobile structures you will see right now. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11401
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Posted - 2015.08.24 19:20:32 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:Kind of on topic, kind of off topic, but posting this in the hopes you keep shooting things.
Mobile Depots have a 2 day reinforcement timer, Mobile Tractor Units do not, so if you come across one of those, you will be able to blow it up immediately. They have more EHP (50k-ish) than depots, but those are the two most widely used mobile structures you will see right now.
The good thing about mobile tractors is they're generally along side a pissedoff mission runner
Better the Devil you know.
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Altony Compagno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2015.08.24 19:54:29 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:Kind of on topic, kind of off topic, but posting this in the hopes you keep shooting things.
Mobile Depots have a 2 day reinforcement timer, Mobile Tractor Units do not, so if you come across one of those, you will be able to blow it up immediately. They have more EHP (50k-ish) than depots, but those are the two most widely used mobile structures you will see right now.
Thank you!
As I said up-thread, I had a hell of a time taking the shields (most of them, anyway) off of a depot. With 10x the HP I am guessing I'd run out of ammo about the same time I ran out of patience.
It was pretty scary as it was, going suspect in a system with 50+ people, in an asteroid field where there were three people mining and a guy in a slasher. I just KNEW at any moment I was going to die. Loved that rush.
Ha ha.
I will try the career missions that Ralph mentioned and see if I can't get a ship with a little better guns and damage before I try a tractor unit!
In the meantime, I will try to keep shooting things. I was tempted to try to gank a venture in my starter ship yesterday, but after the miserable damage I saw on the depot thing, I thought against it.
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Sonya Corvinus
Chickenhawk.
127
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Posted - 2015.08.24 20:36:12 -
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Altony Compagno wrote:
Thank you!
As I said up-thread, I had a hell of a time taking the shields (most of them, anyway) off of a depot. With 10x the HP I am guessing I'd run out of ammo about the same time I ran out of patience.
It was pretty scary as it was, going suspect in a system with 50+ people, in an asteroid field where there were three people mining and a guy in a slasher. I just KNEW at any moment I was going to die. Loved that rush.
Ha ha.
I will try the career missions that Ralph mentioned and see if I can't get a ship with a little better guns and damage before I try a tractor unit!
In the meantime, I will try to keep shooting things. I was tempted to try to gank a venture in my starter ship yesterday, but after the miserable damage I saw on the depot thing, I thought against it.
Do all the career missions, you will end up with a handful of decent ships.
Also, watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de1hwoFYA_k
It has a decent skill plan and fit for new PvP playing as minmatar.
The fit in that video (use T1 instead of T2 when needed) is a decent place as ever to start |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11405
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Posted - 2015.08.24 20:45:22 -
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Absolutely +1 for eveiseasy , fabulous work, well worth a sub.
Better the Devil you know.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
1470
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Posted - 2015.08.24 20:45:50 -
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Altony Compagno wrote:Thank you.
I only had one ship, the one they give you to start. I was doing the industrial agent guy's missions first so I have that and a Venture mining ship so far and that isn't for fighting, is it? I bought the best guns and ammo I could afford (I think) for that starting ship.
5,000 is a lot by 6-15s!
 I was reinforcing mobile depots in a 2x civ railgun Ibis a while back. Alcohol may have been involved. but yea it takes a while.
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Sonya Corvinus wrote:Kind of on topic, kind of off topic, but posting this in the hopes you keep shooting things.
Mobile Depots have a 2 day reinforcement timer, Mobile Tractor Units do not, so if you come across one of those, you will be able to blow it up immediately. They have more EHP (50k-ish) than depots, but those are the two most widely used mobile structures you will see right now. The good thing about mobile tractors is they're generally along side a pissedoff mission runner
the best thing about mobile tractors is when they are alongside an afk mission runners pod and their ship's loot is in the mtu
@ChainsawPlankto
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
24880
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Posted - 2015.08.24 23:02:07 -
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Altony Compagno wrote:Thanks for the tips. I did quit the industrial agent, so I will start the other paths tonight.
So much to learn. So little time. If you decide to go back and do it, or repeat any of them there's 3 sets of career agents for each race. You're not restricted as to which ones you can use but you can only get the missions once from each agent. IIRC there's a fairly good standings increase from the tutorial agents too.
Mobile Tractor Units make good bait too
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
1097
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Posted - 2015.08.25 01:03:13 -
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You have inadvertently taught yourself one of the most important lessons in EVE Online: Kill all things Russian.
Here's a +1 for being a quick learner. |
Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
259
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Posted - 2015.08.25 01:57:16 -
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Altony Compagno wrote:It was pretty scary as it was, going suspect in a system with 50+ people, in an asteroid field where there were three people mining and a guy in a slasher. I just KNEW at any moment I was going to die. Loved that rush.
Ha ha.
I will try the career missions that Ralph mentioned and see if I can't get a ship with a little better guns and damage before I try a tractor unit!
In the meantime, I will try to keep shooting things. I was tempted to try to gank a venture in my starter ship yesterday, but after the miserable damage I saw on the depot thing, I thought against it.
You are definitely going to fit in with this game. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
3085
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Posted - 2015.08.25 02:11:29 -
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As it is impossible to communicate with the Russians because of their strangely shaped letters coexistence is impossible. Blow up all of their things. |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11413
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Posted - 2015.08.25 02:29:55 -
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i have only seen the eve community agree on a handfull of things and those are,
the old moa was hidious
the new domi is gorgeous
shoot at the Russians
Better the Devil you know.
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Bellatrix Invicta
The Conference Elite
CODE.
252
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Posted - 2015.08.25 03:25:28 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:i have only seen the eve community agree on a handfull of things and those are,
the old moa was hidious
the new domi is gorgeous
shoot at the Russians
Even NRDS shoot Russians. Always shoot the Russians.
If you think you've won, think again.
The CODE always wins.
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Altony Compagno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2015.08.25 04:05:39 -
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Lessons learned during today's play:
*Like the Terminus signs in The Walking Dead, mobile depot spam will not lead you to the promise land.
*NPC convoy ships literally carry garbage. And milk. On the same ship. If you are lucky you will find spirits that can be sold for pitiful cash.
*It takes a LOT of bullets to kill an NPC hauler ship. So many that I ran out when it was almost dead.
*Asking a local to bring you ammo and dump it in space actually works. He tried to be tricksy and didn't abandon the ammo at first, but I am a noob, not a rube. Ha ha!
*It is not worth spending all of your ISK on ammo to blow up NPC Convoys unless you have a ship that can haul away the proceeds. Doh.
Ok.. back to the career guys I guess! |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
1291
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:51:31 -
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Hey, I never tried to kill an NPC hauler (outside mission), didn't know they have at least some loot ...
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
1212
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Posted - 2015.08.25 18:01:22 -
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You are going to do very well here. Don't hesitate to ask us anything, we want to see people like you stick around.
Adventures
New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: House Forelli
Titan's Lament
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Sonya Corvinus
Chickenhawk.
132
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Posted - 2015.08.25 18:09:23 -
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As I considered sending the OP some ISK to fund ships as a thank you for being the right kind of newbie, I immediately wondered if this is just a donation scam by a vet.
Look at how paranoid a few years around you people has made me. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11425
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Posted - 2015.08.25 18:38:38 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:As I considered sending the OP some ISK to fund ships as a thank you for being the right kind of newbie, I immediately wondered if this is just a donation scam by a vet.
Look at how paranoid a few years around you people has made me.
no need, i sent him a little (which he should spend on skill books,hint hint)
Better the Devil you know.
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Altony Compagno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2015.08.25 19:13:55 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Sonya Corvinus wrote:As I considered sending the OP some ISK to fund ships as a thank you for being the right kind of newbie, I immediately wondered if this is just a donation scam by a vet.
Look at how paranoid a few years around you people has made me. no need, i sent him a little (which he should spend on skill books,hint hint)
Thank you, publically, for that. I didn't know if you'd say anything here and didn't want to be the one to mention it.
As we discussed.. for all of the future employer lookey-loo's who see the donation on my record.. this is where/why/when!
As for you, Sonya, I am not looking for donations, just tips/tricks. I may be new, but I am equally paranoid about having strangers names in my financial history if it will scare away any future work.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11428
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Posted - 2015.08.25 21:45:50 -
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Oh no worries mate, I actually put more on your head than I gave you (to help with the reputation)
don't worry, bountys have no in game impact whatsoever beyond bragging rights.
But yeah as we discussed, skills would be a great investment at this point.
Better the Devil you know.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
1481
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Posted - 2015.08.25 23:21:25 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:As I considered sending the OP some ISK to fund ships as a thank you for being the right kind of newbie, I immediately wondered if this is just a donation scam by a vet.
Look at how paranoid a few years around you people has made me.
I killed a brand new character in lowsec the other day, I was worried about the same thing. oh well whats a few mil if it might help a new player stick around.
@ChainsawPlankto
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Altony Compagno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2015.08.26 21:32:29 -
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Lessons learned the last two days:
*Patience is not my strong suit, but I am learning. As I can't fit much in the way of armor, guns, or the other things referenced in the rifter video, I wait.
*Waiting doesn't have to entail sitting in station.
*If you make a Russian angry enough, they will try to kill you and are blown up by concord.
*You really have to be on the ball to kill someone in their pod after their ship blows up. Criminal status turns passers-by into gunslingers. I am looking at you, Seth Tonic.
*I now have a killright. I relish using it. A week in and I feel like I am developing an arch-nemesis relationship with the angry russian. So fun.
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Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
265
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Posted - 2015.08.26 21:54:30 -
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Best to sell the kill right. Make it publicly available, at a price that makes you money but is high enough that someone will want to spend on it.
Then, sometime in the next 30 days, you'll get a lovely evemail and some more padding to your wallet. |
Sonya Corvinus
Chickenhawk.
134
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Posted - 2015.08.26 22:25:53 -
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Altony Compagno wrote:
*If you make a Russian angry enough, they will try to kill you and are blown up by concord.
The next trophy you will get is your first hate mail written in Russian. My last one was 100% worth the time it took to use google translate and find out I'm apparently a **** |
Deuce McGuilicuddy
Fredegar Hohenstaufen Corporation
Holy Arumbian Empire
37
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Posted - 2015.08.27 09:29:51 -
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Can confirm, Russian hate mails are some of the funniest things one can experience. They either have some of the funniest insults on earth that I just don't get, or google translate borked their words into hilarity. Either way, never not shoot the Russians. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11456
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Posted - 2015.08.27 10:30:30 -
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dude would you do us a favour and pop your api into https://zkillboard.com or http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/ so we can monitor your adventures
Edit: and by that i mean kills and losses, much like the link in my sig
Better the Devil you know.
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Altony Compagno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2015.08.27 15:36:45 -
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I chose zkillboard.com. Is that one the preferred one to use?
Oh, and I have my first death up already. Go me.
I had found a glacial belt, when I came upon it I was in suspect status from earlier shenanigans, taking ore from a container that wasn't mine and looting wrecks and stuff.
There was a retriever ship there mining, and it had drones out and locked me up. This may or may not have been after I swooped around in some, locked up the drones, and generally tried to get him angry. Alas, he was French, and not Russian, so he wouldn't actually shoot.
Then came a german. I was not ready for that. Being in suspect status I knew I was fair game, but I guess I didnt understand cloaking very well because out of nowhere a guy in a Hound locked me up, scrambled me, and unleashed torpedos.
Of course, the Frenchman started to shoot at that point.
I was able to get out of their in my capsule to live another day. Unfortunately I didnt get a kill right on the german. Is that because I was in suspect status?
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Paranoid Loyd
6772
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Posted - 2015.08.27 15:53:10 -
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Yes to both questions.
Go Altony! More shenanigans!
"Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata
Fix the Prospect!
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
3115
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Posted - 2015.08.27 16:15:21 -
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Bombers don't do squat for damage agianst frigate hulls. If you had been fit properly you would have been able to win that fight.
You should pretty much always have a propulsion module fit and if you're doing suspect shenanigans in highsec your fit should generally emphasize tank.
Fit an afterburner and armor rigs and that kind of situation will work out a lot better. Also people who fly bombers in highsec are bad, you probably weren't even warp disrupted during that. |
Altony Compagno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2015.08.27 16:33:40 -
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Well it certainly did enough against a clueless noob in his first fight.
I had turned on my armor repairer, but I dont think I did so soon enough. I was so excited that I was shot at, thinking it was the retriever, then when I realized there was another ship there I didn't have long enough to figure out what was going on, unlock the retriever and drone, and lock the hound up or anything.
When I realized I was dying I tried to warp away and it was telling me something was preventing it. I assumed it was the hound.
I didnt have the skill trained for the warpdrive when I left the station earlier. I had planned to have one there. I will go with an afterburner instead, it may actually fit better. Thanks for the advice with the rig selection.
I'd watched a youtube video and built the ship exactly how they did. I just didnt fly it exactly how he did. Ha ha.
Now as I am thinking about it, I wonder if I actually agressed the retriever on accident when the hound started shooting at me. When I went back later concord was in the belt. It was like 25 minutes later, but they werent there earlier. If they showed up and disrupted me for aggressing (web and scrambled) the retriever at the same time as the hound was shooting at me, would they be on the killmail?
I will definitely be more prepared next time! Thank you. |
Azda Ja
Green Skull LLC
4315
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Posted - 2015.08.27 16:37:00 -
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I love it.
Go Altony go!
Because sometimes you die. And sometimes we are why. GSLLC is Recruiting.
Grrr I tell you. Grrr.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
3117
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Posted - 2015.08.27 16:42:02 -
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There's no CONCORD on your loss mail. It was all hound. So long as your safety is not set red you won't be able to do anything that causes a CONCORD response.
Ice belts very often have CONCORD ships in them because the barges there attract suicide gankers, which is probably what the houn was in the belt for (gankers attract anti-gankers who basically just shoot the ganker to get free killmails).
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Altony Compagno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2015.08.27 16:45:17 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:There's no CONCORD on your loss mail. It was all hound. So long as your safety is not set red you won't be able to do anything that causes a CONCORD response.
Ice belts very often have CONCORD ships in them because the barges there attract suicide gankers, which is probably what the houn was in the belt for (gankers attract anti-gankers who basically just shoot the ganker to get free killmails).
That makes sense. Looking at the German's zkill stuff it looks like he did just kill a ganker the other day, too.
Well crap. It feels good to have my first death out of the way, but I sure could use a kill.
On to the next! |
Sonya Corvinus
Chickenhawk.
137
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Posted - 2015.08.27 17:09:20 -
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EVE logs all combat automatically, it's in a menu on the left hand toolbar in game and saved to C:\Users\username\Documents\EVE\Logs out of game.
If you check out the logs from the fight, you can see when the hound first targeted you and how much time passed before you attacked back. It can be helpful to see how much damage you did/what your response time was/etc once the adrenaline wears off |
Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
1213
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Posted - 2015.08.27 17:42:26 -
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Altony Compagno wrote:Well crap. It feels good to have my first death out of the way, but I sure could use a kill.
On to the next!
I would say, add that hound to your watchlist and see if you can track him down and bait him out again. As Vimsy said, stealth bombers do not apply well to frigates at all, so with a complete fit and a little less nerves you can probably take him down. In general, frigates will tear apart a stealth bomber. Your DPS will be fairly low from skills so it may be a bit closer in your case but should still be manageable.
Protip: Moving helps mitigate damage from missiles (especially "large" class missiles like torpedoes from the Hound). Moving with an afterburner will mitigate even more damage (by increasing your speed but not your signature radius like an mwd).
And don't forget your rep! Your lossmail shows it was still full of paste so you didn't get to finish a cycle in that fight. Better plan on hitting it earlier next time.
Adventures
New player with questions? Join my public channel in game: House Forelli
Titan's Lament
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Sonya Corvinus
Chickenhawk.
139
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Posted - 2015.08.27 18:31:09 -
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One more general piece of advice that I wish someone game me when I first started is to set up the test server on your computer.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Singularity
It's a parallel server that devs use to test new content, but you can log in with your current player/current skills/etc. All items in the game are 100isk, and there are two combat 'arena' systems, so you can fit a rifter, call out in local asking someone in a hound to come attack you, and practice fights.
No losses show up on zkillboard, it has no effect on your actual character, but it is a great way to get better/test out fits/etc. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
3120
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Posted - 2015.08.27 19:04:32 -
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Flying around annoying people in an ice belt absolutely will result in you getting kills, however because you're entirely reliant on someone else shooting first, any anyone in the entire game can shoot you without penalty it requires quite a lot of care and attention. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
727
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Posted - 2015.08.27 19:35:34 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:As it is impossible to communicate with the Russians because of their strangely shaped letters coexistence is impossible. Blow up all of their things.
Babel Fish or google translate or a dozen other free apps makes it pretty easy. |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
727
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Posted - 2015.08.27 19:36:46 -
[48] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:i have only seen the eve community agree on a handfull of things and those are,
the old moa was hidious
the new domi is gorgeous
shoot at the Russians
I usually agree with you Ralph but I rather dislike the new domi. I want my old domi back |
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
728
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Posted - 2015.08.27 19:47:39 -
[49] - Quote
Altony Compagno wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:There's no CONCORD on your loss mail. It was all hound. So long as your safety is not set red you won't be able to do anything that causes a CONCORD response.
Ice belts very often have CONCORD ships in them because the barges there attract suicide gankers, which is probably what the houn was in the belt for (gankers attract anti-gankers who basically just shoot the ganker to get free killmails).
That makes sense. Looking at the German's zkill stuff it looks like he did just kill a ganker the other day, too. Well crap. It feels good to have my first death out of the way, but I sure could use a kill. On to the next!
you can search by system on zkillboard to sometimes help clear up questions like this.
Also with regards to figuring out what is going on I think you need to learn how to set up your overview |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11473
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Posted - 2015.08.27 19:56:05 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote: with regards to figuring out what is going on I think you need to learn how to set up your overview
Very true, op should read this
Better the Devil you know.
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Sonya Corvinus
Chickenhawk.
139
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Posted - 2015.08.27 20:23:35 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:
you can search by system on zkillboard to sometimes help clear up questions like this.
Also with regards to figuring out what is going on I think you need to learn how to set up your overview
What by chance is the phonetic pronunciation of your name? |
Azda Ja
Green Skull LLC
4319
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Posted - 2015.08.27 20:29:57 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:
you can search by system on zkillboard to sometimes help clear up questions like this.
Also with regards to figuring out what is going on I think you need to learn how to set up your overview
What by chance is the phonetic pronunciation of your name?
I imagine it's like saying "er muh gerd" with a full mouth.
Because sometimes you die. And sometimes we are why. GSLLC is Recruiting.
Grrr I tell you. Grrr.
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
730
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Posted - 2015.08.27 20:37:09 -
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Sonya Corvinus wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:
you can search by system on zkillboard to sometimes help clear up questions like this.
Also with regards to figuring out what is going on I think you need to learn how to set up your overview
What by chance is the phonetic pronunciation of your name?
I never intended this toon to become what it is. The name is just a keyboard mash. It took me 0.73179 seconds to type this name so that is how it got chosen. It was never meant to be used or pronounced. It's one of those things that seemed like a good idea at the time later on I wished I had done it differently. Like taken at least 4 or 5 seconds to think of a name. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11473
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Posted - 2015.08.27 20:42:16 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:Sonya Corvinus wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:
you can search by system on zkillboard to sometimes help clear up questions like this.
Also with regards to figuring out what is going on I think you need to learn how to set up your overview
What by chance is the phonetic pronunciation of your name? I never intended this toon to become what it is. The name is just a keyboard mash. It took me 0.73179 seconds to type this name so that is how it got chosen. It was never meant to be used or pronounced. It's one of those things that seemed like a good idea at the time later on I wished I had done it differently. Like taken at least 4 or 5 seconds to think of a name.
i had a feeling it was something like mashing your face off the keyboard...good to know i wasn't far off.
Which actually reminds me of more advice for the op : when making an alt for yourself (you will eventually i can tell) don't give it a name similar to your own, they have waaaaay more utility if they aren't obvious
Better the Devil you know.
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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
730
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Posted - 2015.08.27 20:59:38 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:Sonya Corvinus wrote:ergherhdfgh wrote:
you can search by system on zkillboard to sometimes help clear up questions like this.
Also with regards to figuring out what is going on I think you need to learn how to set up your overview
What by chance is the phonetic pronunciation of your name? I never intended this toon to become what it is. The name is just a keyboard mash. It took me 0.73179 seconds to type this name so that is how it got chosen. It was never meant to be used or pronounced. It's one of those things that seemed like a good idea at the time later on I wished I had done it differently. Like taken at least 4 or 5 seconds to think of a name. i had a feeling it was something like mashing your face off the keyboard...good to know i wasn't far off. Which actually reminds me of more advice for the op : when making an alt for yourself (you will eventually i can tell ) don't give it a name similar to your own, they have waaaaay more utility if they aren't obvious
Ya you nailed that one. I made this toon to scout out a low sec jump for me very early into my eve career. I was trying to avoid a situation like you pointed out where someone would see "Bob's scout alt" jump into system followed by "Bob" and then have people wondering what I was carrying that warranted a scout alt.
So yes your pirate spidey senses were right on there. Or maybe I should say your sith lord dark side powers. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11473
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Posted - 2015.08.27 21:36:33 -
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ergherhdfgh wrote:Or maybe I should say your sith lord dark side powers.
Good
Better the Devil you know.
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
3120
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Posted - 2015.08.27 23:35:57 -
[57] - Quote
Erg-Her-Hud-Fug |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
24907
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Posted - 2015.08.28 14:09:22 -
[58] - Quote
Vimsy Vortis wrote:Erg-Her-Hud-Fug If you really love me, you'll swallow that.
Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business.
Nil mortifi sine lucre.
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Altony Compagno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2015.08.28 20:55:33 -
[59] - Quote
Fewer lessons today as my play time was brief. I spent most of it trying my best to adjust my overview, move the window around, adjust the camera, etc.
I think I have a plan that may be delayed over the weekend, but in place next week. We will see. It will likely end in yet another death for me, or revenge.
Steadily training the skills recommended by the countless threads here, videos, and blog posts. Thank you all for your help. I think my goal will be to fly frigates and destroyers, minmatar and gallente, and try to do them very well before moving on to anything else. It seems like a long (and expensive) road.
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Niko Johnson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2015.08.28 21:50:58 -
[60] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Oh no worries mate, I actually put more on your head than I gave you (to help with the reputation ) don't worry, bountys have no in game impact whatsoever beyond bragging rights. But yeah as we discussed, skills would be a great investment at this point.
You sir are a genius! You make it seem like you just put a bounty on his head for fun. But in fact it's a cheap way to get automated updates (in the form of bounty payouts) on this adventure seeking newbro. A subscription to 'The glorious explosions of Altony Compagno' or just 'The early days' if you will. Pretty cheap entertainment if you ask me 
Here's a medal. This is EVE. |
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Altony Compagno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
27
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Posted - 2015.08.28 22:10:23 -
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So if you bounty someone, when it pays out yout get notified? It takes the money up front though, right?
I've only had one guy ask about the bounty so far, Seth Tonic, the guy that stole my pod kill. When I was telling him that he stole my first kill and that meant we had to go kill something together he said "First kill? Wait, you have a 20m bounty, what did you do?"
Ha ha. I told him I just make friends easily. |
Niko Johnson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2015.08.29 08:12:18 -
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Altony Compagno wrote:So if you bounty someone, when it pays out yout get notified? It takes the money up front though, right?
I've only had one guy ask about the bounty so far, Seth Tonic, the guy that stole my pod kill. When I was telling him that he stole my first kill and that meant we had to go kill something together he said "First kill? Wait, you have a 20m bounty, what did you do?"
Ha ha. I told him I just make friends easily.
Yes it takes all the money up front. And then when you get killed, the other player will get a bounty payout of 20% of the value of your ship until the bounty on your head is gone. So say you got a 50 mil isk bounty and you're flying 1 mil isk ships. If you get killed the other player receives 200K payout.
He's right though, a bounty does not really matter much because of how the payout system works. But like I said, it's an easy way to get updates on someone :) |
Altony Compagno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2015.08.29 18:07:09 -
[63] - Quote
Revenge has been had against the Russian.
He was only in a Venture, but he was carrying a Mobile Depot and had a decent load of ore, so I will happily take the kill.
I got his pod, too. I will keep that frozen corpse forever.
Question, however: It seems killing him, and attacking his pod the other day (without getting the kill myself) both took a hit to my standings with my career agents, and now I am at like -4 or something.
Any way of fixing that, or am I doomed to piracy now? |
Altony Compagno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2015.08.29 18:08:35 -
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Google translate couldnt help much. Anyone translate this?
-à-â-¦-+-+
-+-+-¦-Ç-+-+-¦ -ü-ü-â-¦-¦,-¦-+-+-â -é-¦-¦-¦ -+-+-Ç-¦-¦-é-î -â-¦-¦-¦-+ |
Tsukino Stareine
Sock Robbers Inc.
Low-Class
1357
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Posted - 2015.08.29 18:17:31 -
[65] - Quote
-4 is most likely your security status. There are multiple ways to fix this |
Altony Compagno
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2015.08.29 18:25:00 -
[66] - Quote
No it is the corporate standing with his cirp that he is in. It is the same as my career agents corp. |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
3143
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Posted - 2015.08.29 18:31:53 -
[67] - Quote
One of the joys of EVE being utterly ancient and incredibly badly designed is that you for some inexplicable reason lose standings with NPC corps you kill the player members of.
It's really not a big deal. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666
The Devil's Warrior Alliance
11505
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Posted - 2015.08.29 19:26:46 -
[68] - Quote
Altony Compagno wrote:I will keep that frozen corpse forever.
ahhhh, the feeling of the first corpse earned
we always end up fighting over them because we have 4 (including myself) "collectors" in the corp,
two of whom will dont care where they come from.
personally i don't like this, i don't take any auld thing off the side of the road,
i played a part in the stalking, catching and killing if every one of mine.
Better the Devil you know.
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