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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.08.25 10:15:15 -
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Jita Jitara wrote:I think the following might increase interest:
1) add more regions - more space needed, at least another 5000+ systems for the taking 2) limit corps to 75-100 members and alliances to 50 corporations, coalitions would be created, coalitions will dissolve, backstabs will occur. Everyone will have a fighting chance. 3) kill titans or make them stationary so that they serve a purpose of being a system defense structure rather then to move them about and use them in fleets. 4) eliminate jump bridges 5) 0.8-1.0 systems: no pirates/gankers allowed at all, 0.5-07 business as usual. 6) moon minerals should deplete on moons and respawn on different moons, which would encourage conquest. Each moon gives a random amount according moon size. Small moon = small amounts vs big moon = big amounts. 7) 30 day timecodes at 750m a pop would be nice to have :) equivalent to currency. 8) mining boats need a stronger tank so that they can withstand the pirate ganks in 0.5-0.7 systems. 9) old school sov wars where you popped towers was a nice thing, dunno if it can be brought back into life. but thats just me. Node wars did spread out the fights to several different systems, so I did not see any massive lags yet. 10) increase number of wormholes and add more WH bonus types 11) Drones should drop loot, same as other npc factions 12) risk vs reward, more challenging anomalies and signatures
also I heard about EVE from a mate who heard from a mate who heard from a priest etc... So maybe more marketing would not hurt the CCP wallets. ****'s sale, World of Tanks has a better ad on TV then WoW. And if WoT can fight for their fanbase, dont see why CCP cant do it themselves as well.
Ah a homogeneous blend of exaggeration and truth. my favorite flavor of post. Top shelf.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.08.25 10:42:26 -
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Webvan wrote:Bob Maths wrote:Perhaps CCP needs to adapt to the modern market and stop trying to peddle a product that is quite niche. We're not here to play a modern market game. Games that change to get a different type of player, fail. I was thinking there's some validity to that statement. I made a suggestion about offering a real money prize for the Alliance Tournament, funded by vanity or special edition item sales. I agree with the statement about mainstream appeal because current tournament prizes are in-game items which to an outsider are unappealing for being part of a closed system. Offering real money is superior because real world currency is something everyone can relate to. EVE could stand to be more relevant, and a great way to do that is offer tournament prizes that outside gamers and non-gamers can understand.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.08.25 11:27:00 -
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Holy hell lookat those prices.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.08.26 02:38:34 -
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Don't wait too long, there might be another accidental Amazon 90% off sale.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.08.26 09:59:37 -
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Patch hype. It's as if the normal bumps in price due to patch interest don't have quite enough time to reset in six weeks
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.08.28 00:52:22 -
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Webvan wrote:Rain6637 wrote:Webvan wrote:Bob Maths wrote:Perhaps CCP needs to adapt to the modern market and stop trying to peddle a product that is quite niche. We're not here to play a modern market game. Games that change to get a different type of player, fail. I was thinking there's some validity to that statement about wider appeal. I made a suggestion about offering a real money prize for the Alliance Tournament, funded by vanity or special edition item sales. I agree with the statement about mainstream appeal because current tournament prizes are in-game items which to an outsider are unappealing for being part of a closed system. Offering real money is superior because real world currency is something everyone can relate to. EVE could stand to be more relevant, and a great way to do that is offer tournament prizes that outside gamers and non-gamers can understand. But you gotta think who does it appeal to. You have a target audiance and need a way to reach them with a message you bait the hook with. I think CCP kind of understands this, and the difficulty with putting the right message in the right places for the right people. Probably the best thing they have going right now besides word of mouth by vets is being visible on Steam. A lot of us didn't know we were uber EVE nerds until we started playing.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.08.28 19:31:44 -
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Nerdy is fashionable nowadays. I think there's an opportunity to benefit from EVE's reputation as a uber nerd game.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.08.29 04:58:03 -
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No. To provide hipsters a game they can claim to play that is not mainstream.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.08.29 20:57:29 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Rain6637 wrote:No. To provide hipsters a game they can claim to play that is not mainstream. Ironically, WiS would have achieved that perfectly Hipsters engaged in furious fashion PvP at space station coffeeshops, sipping Quafe, while skilling up "social", browsing tumblr, and occassionally streaming some LoL/Minecraft for gamer legitimacy. I respectfully disagree. The more clunky and unenjoyable the game, the more niche it will remain. The desired response is "how do you play that game? It's so confusing."
Nevermind it all though. Hipsters can just lie about having an account.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.08.29 21:22:58 -
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People in EVE get served all the time.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.08.30 17:32:27 -
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There are so many better things to do with ISK than sitting on high value per unit items like PLEX. Even if it goes to 2.2 Bil that's a 100% return but EVE will also be dead.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.08.30 18:34:29 -
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Whitehound wrote:Rain6637 wrote:There are so many better things to do with ISK than sitting on high value per unit items like PLEX. Even if it goes to 2.2 Bil that's a 100% return but EVE will also be dead. We all try to kill EVE by what we do. And owning something others need is always great. You are a Goon. You should understand this. I mean the return is low and the holding period long.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.08.31 02:08:30 -
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Kraxalious wrote:Plex could be also rising because of the new SKINs. Since you can convert plex to AUR, this might be one avenue people are using to get them and helping drive up the price. If this is the case I find it amusing how averse people are to paying real money for SKINs.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.08.31 02:21:03 -
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I think clothing should be bound to a character like SKINs. I also think apparel and SKINs shouldn't have market item entries. They should exist in account management only. That is, if it comes from the NES.
It's a problem to move over, because there are stockpiles of apparel and SKINs. I suppose they can only be refunded for their AUR value to make it clean.
There's then the issue of AT and special event prizes that are coveted for their resale value. I will go back to my suggestion about shifting that paradigm to a general sale strategy. Instead of giving out limited edition vanity items and SKINs to a select few, offer those assets for real money to the general playerbase, and use the proceeds for prizes instead. Money has more appeal, which reaches out to players outside EVE.
The NES and its items have the consistent trait of sabotaging their own values by existing on the in-game market. If they'r affecting PLEX as well, perhaps it's time to do something about a cycle that harms the game through its suboptimal implementation.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.08.31 07:05:31 -
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Jill Xelitras wrote:Rain6637 wrote:I think clothing should be bound to a character like SKINs. I also think apparel and SKINs shouldn't have market item entries. They should exist in account management only. That is, if it comes from the NES.
The move could be messy because there are stockpiles of apparel and SKINs. NES items could be refunded for their AUR value to keep the transition clean.
There's then the issue of AT and special event prizes that are coveted for their resale value. I will go back to my suggestion about shifting that paradigm to a general sale strategy. Instead of giving out limited edition vanity items and SKINs to a select few, offer those assets for real money to the general playerbase, and use the proceeds as prizes instead. Money has more appeal, to players outside EVE.
The NES and its items have the consistent trait of sabotaging their own values by existing on the in-game market. If they're affecting PLEX as well, perhaps it's time to do something about a system that harms the game with its life cycle.
There are items without AUR values that would be impractical to have several copies on one account. Phancas, for example, and promotional SKINs. Those would need to be reabsorbed into the redeeming system and treated like GTCs (I suppose), and traded on the forums.
Finally, remove the PLEX-> AUR conversion option since letting it stay leaves this hole in the **** wide open. Reverse it, even, allowing AUR to be redeemed for PLEX. Maybe even stop offering direct PLEX sales, straightening the flow of value to: Real Money -> AUR -> PLEX.
The only route to obtaining ISK for real money would be PLEX, like it used to be.
//this sounds crazy now that I've said it. I am assuming that AUR is affecting PLEX prices, and that it is harmful to the game. If those assumptions are wrong, my suggestion is excessive if not invalid. How about : RM -> AUR RM -> PLEX ISK convertible via CCP into AUR (ISK sink combating inflation) PLEX tradeable on market as it is now (player trade), but not convertible into AUR AUR not tradeable or convertible, could only be used for Skins and apparel ... Not that I like your idea (cheap clothing is what I like) ... but your idea makes too much sense to be ignored. So I added a little spin to it that would create an ISK sink. There is just the problem of LP shops offering clothing, which already is a small ISK sink, as you're paying with LP + ISK, which than both leave the game forever. The next question would be: at what rate should ISK be converted to AUR ? If it's not a fixed rate, what determines the rate ? Overall it is likely that this idea of mine is bad, because it's not a reliable ISK sink. It's more like a pressure valve: if ingame prices for PLEX go up, it's cheap to get ISK which some may choose to convert into AUR to get Skins and apparel. That removes ISK from the game and thereby increases ISK value again. I have to ponder this a little more ... Hey Rain, we should get ourselves hired as game designers by CCP . What would be your dev name ? I could be CCP X if it's not taken already. CCP Sucks or CCP Blows. I took a good long look at the games industry being an artist interested in 3D art and animation. Researched it for a solid six months. I've decided to pursue advertising as an artist rather than games.
Fixed rate of AUR cost in ISK is a good question. I'll need time with that one too.
LP availability isn't a problem, I don't think. Bind it to account or generate a redeeming code. Dunno.
ISK to AUR makes sense as a sink, as long as the AUR items remain off market.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.08.31 07:17:23 -
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ISK-> AUR rate could be a variable rate based on the market price of PLEX the previous day. AUR and PLEX both have real money prices. The only thing I feel strongly about is the rate not being fixed.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.08.31 09:59:20 -
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Avvy, one of the first lines in my effortpost was about making clothing bound to the character and consumed like SKINs
PLEX may have been removed from secondary purposes, except they can still be redeemed for AUR. That's appealing even if a player isn't particularly spacerich if, for example, they sub annually and simply want to grind the ISK for a PLEX for AUR. I have to disagree with Terminus' statement that PLEX has been isolated. Perhaps the subtext is that pressure on PLEX due to AUR conversion is negligible.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.08.31 16:26:30 -
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After a housing market analogy derail, this thread will be foreclosed before I get home to reply using a keyboard.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.09.01 17:58:23 -
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I think loading times are good enough reason for a period of invulnerability upon undock. My computer is fast, but when I undock (or log in from space, for that matter) I have several seconds of a completely black screen.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.09.01 21:02:23 -
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Tau Cabalander wrote:Just cancelled an account due for renewal in less than two weeks.
Will pay $60 to transfer the characters to active accounts. Ouch,
Won't affect the CUC at all. This strikes me as interesting since the $20 option is now better than the 2 PLEX option.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.09.02 06:41:12 -
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I'm curious if rising PLEX prices will mean fewer casual sub-with-PLEX players and more casual sub-with-money players.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.09.02 07:28:02 -
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Casuals who buy PLEX would stay, what are you talking about.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.09.02 07:39:32 -
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What if I have the skill and SP to grind tens of billions a month, but buy PLEX because EVE is torture?
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.09.02 12:22:00 -
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The VC's wrote:This thread is embarrassing for us.
Please lock it. Freddie Mercury has spoken
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.09.02 16:27:02 -
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Chickenbutt.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.09.04 12:11:49 -
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It hasn't been locked because more than ever, EVE is dying and it's important we brainstorm.
This thread is a meeting of the minds.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.09.04 20:35:16 -
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Kiandoshia wrote:Quote:I know why, it's because nobody including myself is generally willing to even remotely back down from their side of a debate. They get more and more dead set that they are right and other people are wrong that they won't budge. Worse, it's not even good enough if the other person walks away, they need to feel like they've defeated their opponent. Welcome to any internet forum argument in any internet forum ever.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.09.08 06:20:15 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:
Now the meta is all about things like interceptors, T3 destoyers (kiting), uncatchable T3 cruisers (kiting) and so on
It's certainly not sitting in slow battleships with huge sigs. Thinking about how badly battleships need and deserve aggressive EHP buffs makes me sad.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.09.08 07:07:03 -
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We get nice clothes now. Stop bringing up the expansion that shall not be named.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.09.08 11:59:51 -
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Market McSelling Alt wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:Honestly... the numbers do look like they've stabilized in the past three months. So maybe the situation isn't quite so dire. It's certainly not past salvaging. CCP just needs to be very careful about what they do. Not even close. We have lost 15% in the last three months from an already decimated player average. The decline looks smaller on a graph based on zero because we are now looking at a 0-70k graph with only data in the low 20's. Redraw the graph as a 0-25k and you will see we are still in a steady decline with a small dead-cat bounce at patch day. Skew that redrawn graph vertically and it will look even scarier. You should try it and post again to tell us how much scarier the figures look that way.
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Rain6637
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Posted - 2015.09.25 03:17:14 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:baltec1 wrote:Markus Reese wrote:What can they do? Say F you vets and focus on people who are not playing eve first. The existing player basd will decline no matter how solid it is. MUST get new players in and wanting to stay. As much as many people seem to believe, tears are not a valid currency to pay the bills. It should be just as difficult to be a bully as it is to be a carebear. Everything should require risk and be a struggle to be on top. The bigger the ship, the more special, not standard, it should be in a combat situation. ******* over vets and going for the mythical new players is what SWG did. The game flat lined in a month and never recovered. More specifically, deliberately pissing off your core playerbase in order to chase purely theoretical subscribers is the kind of folly normally only seen in things like New Coke. Who's mad about the new Coke?
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Posted - 2015.12.30 05:11:02 -
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and this one
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Posted - 2015.12.30 05:23:38 -
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yuh-huh.
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