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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
6031

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Posted - 2015.08.25 10:16:06 -
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Galatea has been successfully deployed o August 25 during an regular downtime.
With Galatea we see an iteration on sovereignty capture mechanics, new Designer SKINs, improved visual effects of utility modules, a new Dominix model, UI improvements and more. The full details of all changes and improvements are available in the Galatea patch notes.
Please post general feedback and discussions in this thread.
Report issues with the release on the PC in the Galatea issues thread. For Mac users, there is, as always, a thread on the Macintosh forums for discussion of this release here.
CCP Phantom - Senior Community Developer - Volunteer Manager
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swaatymec baaaatch
Viziam Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2015.08.25 12:01:01 -
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but but but I liked the way the old dami looked you know like a huge space turd ....... ty for update :) |

Jevatoxa
Amandla Legion
14
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Posted - 2015.08.25 12:10:33 -
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I'll miss the ASCII art easter egg on the old domi (the smily-faced man with his hands on his hips), but you've done a good job at rejigging one of my favourite ships in the game.
PS as a fan of 80s electro/synth music, I'm loving the loading screen tunes you guys keep putting out. |

Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
563
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Posted - 2015.08.25 12:15:45 -
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The checkmarks...the blue is real!
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Spc One
The Chodak Void Alliance
292
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Posted - 2015.08.25 12:23:35 -
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What does that mean exactly ?
Missions & NPCs:
The Drifter armada has arrived and the time has come to step up and join the Navy Fleet in their battle to defend the Throne Worlds from this hostile attack.
We can join amarr kill drifters and get some rewards ?
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Anubis Amarian
Tillistrian Enterprises Stella Nova
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 12:25:46 -
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I see on the patch notes that the Imp and Fiend have been added. When can we expect to see these on the market? Are the blueprints seeded so that we can build them? |

Steijn
Quay Industries
1007
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Posted - 2015.08.25 12:28:54 -
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Anubis Amarian wrote:I see on the patch notes that the Imp and Fiend have been added. When can we expect to see these on the market? Are the blueprints seeded so that we can build them?
they are AT prize ships, there wont be BPCs. |

Jevatoxa
Amandla Legion
15
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Posted - 2015.08.25 12:28:57 -
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Anubis Amarian wrote:I see on the patch notes that the Imp and Fiend have been added. When can we expect to see these on the market? Are the blueprints seeded so that we can build them?
I thought they were special edition AT reward ships? |

Thonys Visser
Green Visstick High
8
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Posted - 2015.08.25 12:30:06 -
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Hi, im not sure what s going on, but the update bar remains grey ?
problem : solved by closing the launcher,... and restarted it again.... |

Anubis Amarian
Tillistrian Enterprises Stella Nova
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 12:32:02 -
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You guys are right of course. I forgot the special edition ships don't have prints. Thanks for the correction. |

Mark Zachary
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.08.25 12:41:20 -
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Hey, not sure whether this is the right place to say this, but every time I try and download the update the game (via the launcher), it gets stuck at Creating Patch 0.0%.
Any ideas on what I can do to fix this?
Thanks |

Bellasarius Baxter
Zilog Enterprises
46
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Posted - 2015.08.25 12:42:33 -
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I recently switched to windows 10, and I have noticed that the progress bar is not updated unless 1) The launcher is NOT the window which has focus 2) OR(!) if the launcher window has focus I have to move my mouse around inside the window to get it to update the display.
Perhaps this is what is going on with some of the players. |

Arylna
University of Caille Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2015.08.25 12:50:03 -
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yep, having patch problems too. bar keeps freezing. download stalls. never finishes. |

Pikatti Tawate
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 12:50:23 -
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Anyone else having severe issues downloading the update? Mine has gotten stuck at different points each time. Creating patch 0.0 2x's. Downloading Patch @ roughly 82%, 55%, 71%, we will see about this one. Each time I wait for about 5 minutes before taking action to try and fix it. Even tried to repair the game in between downloads. |

Anna Tomy
Caille University Art Faculty
8
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Posted - 2015.08.25 12:51:10 -
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Bellasarius Baxter wrote:I recently switched to windows 10, and I have noticed that the progress bar is not updated unless 1) The launcher is NOT the window which has focus 2) OR(!) if the launcher window has focus I have to move my mouse around inside the window to get it to update the display.
Perhaps this is what is going on with some of the players.
I can confirm this. It is not only true for the progress bar, but for the server status text, too. (at least it seems so to me) |

Knight Kado
The Muppet's Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2015.08.25 12:55:13 -
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Yep.... CCP forgot to charge up the mice it seems in the rush of completion during DT.
Download speed...0%. progress bar 0.0% |

Laktion
Hooded Underworld Guys Northern Coalition.
18
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Posted - 2015.08.25 12:56:15 -
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Confirmed, I'm having issues with the launcher freezing up to, won't go past "Creating patch 0.0%" then freezes up.
Task managers shows it as "Not Responding"
Up to my 5th attempt
#AnotherCCPSuccessStorySarcasm |

Nankeen Heron
Jim's Mowing
18
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Posted - 2015.08.25 12:58:01 -
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Pikatti Tawate wrote:Anyone else having severe issues downloading the update? Mine has gotten stuck at different points each time. Creating patch 0.0 2x's. Downloading Patch @ roughly 82%, 55%, 71%, we will see about this one. Each time I wait for about 5 minutes before taking action to try and fix it. Even tried to repair the game in between downloads.
* Stuck at "Creating patch 0.0%"; restarting the launcher doesn't help. No CPU or disk activity to speak of. * Repair Tool (after update) fails with "Data Package Unavailable." * "launcher.exe is not responding" (Close the program.)
Quote:[...] successfully deployed.
You keep using that word; I do not think it means what you think it means. |

Knight Kado
The Muppet's Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2015.08.25 12:58:43 -
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Can someone explain why we pay when we can't play?
Come on CCP.... how long have you been in this game?? |

Dekoda1
Australian Ratting and Mining Division The Cool Kids Club
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:00:42 -
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Yep Stuck at 0% also cant download patch :((
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Shetani Kami
Blood Eagle Mercenaries
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:02:31 -
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Nankeen Heron wrote:Pikatti Tawate wrote:Anyone else having severe issues downloading the update? Mine has gotten stuck at different points each time. Creating patch 0.0 2x's. Downloading Patch @ roughly 82%, 55%, 71%, we will see about this one. Each time I wait for about 5 minutes before taking action to try and fix it. Even tried to repair the game in between downloads. Stuck at "Creating patch 0.0%"; restarting the launcher doesn't help. No CPU or disk activity to speak of.
same issue here. mine gets to 60%. restarting does not help. |

MC Asm0
Can't Touch This
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:03:21 -
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There seems to be a problem with large collidable objects on the overview, they don't always appear and/or leave gaps in the overview list. |

Zearkcees
Space And Astrogeological Research Foundation Violent Declaration
2
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:03:56 -
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Patch failed..
Launcher Froze and now not responding
Repair tool failed
Tick Tock...
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Amarisen Gream
Divine Demise Apocalypse Now.
107
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:04:20 -
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CCP, we love you. . .
BUT. . . it seems each patch of late has gotten worse and worse and worse...
for patching and such. . . and working right after wards.
xoxo
Amarisen Gream
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Chey Chey Ransom
Somewhat Loving Unbelievably Tyrannical Soldiers Somewhat Evil Xenophobic YOLOers
4
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:05:00 -
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mine is still stuck on 0.0% I don't know what to do. I tried restarting the launcher several times, I restarted my PC, I tried waiting a long time, I even kicked the cat, (That helped a little for my frustration but damn that thing is fast. I kept missing and I swear she laughed at me. I need my Eve man...You don't understand I need it. Give it to me, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Come on man!!! ......oh wait it now says client is ready. YAYYYYYY OK time to get my daily eve fix....but first I need to say I'm sorry to Princess Fluffums. |

EscobarRN
Burning Skies Apocalypse Now.
3
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:06:26 -
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and you already announced how successful this deployment is........................................
you guys need a dictionary
this is anything but successful, crippling your own **** and leaving your paying clients stuck out in the cold
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Zearkcees
Space And Astrogeological Research Foundation Violent Declaration
2
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:06:33 -
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Let it sit...
Mines just burst into life          |

Wade Barrett
Shaolin Legacy Preatoriani
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:06:42 -
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Stuck at 0.0% if i run the repair tool boots up it freezes. Getting realy tired of this ****. Then, if we would send in a support ticket we would have to wait 2 weeks until we get a response. |

Hrate Skjem
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:08:15 -
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Same problem. had to close/reopen launcher a couple of times. moved mouse around inside launcher window and patch downloaded. if i moved the mouse outside the launcher window it paused. |

Cleai Eomira
Pro Spectre
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:09:06 -
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thanks on upgrading my domi! |

Mark Zachary
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
2
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:09:10 -
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Was having problems with launcher earlier, stuck at 0.0%, seems to be fixed now for me. |

Knight Kado
The Muppet's Enterprises
1
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:11:32 -
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Not in Queensland, Australia it isn't
Getting frustrating |

Shetani Kami
Blood Eagle Mercenaries
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:12:50 -
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Shetani Kami wrote:Nankeen Heron wrote:Pikatti Tawate wrote:Anyone else having severe issues downloading the update? Mine has gotten stuck at different points each time. Creating patch 0.0 2x's. Downloading Patch @ roughly 82%, 55%, 71%, we will see about this one. Each time I wait for about 5 minutes before taking action to try and fix it. Even tried to repair the game in between downloads. Stuck at "Creating patch 0.0%"; restarting the launcher doesn't help. No CPU or disk activity to speak of. same issue here. mine gets to 60%. restarting does not help.
patience solved my problem  |

Aareya
TNT Logistics and SRP Tactical Narcotics Team
40
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:14:06 -
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Exception during UpdaterModule.Update Traceback (most recent call last): File "lib\update.pyo", line 116, in run File "lib\update.pyo", line 380, in _Update File "lib\update.pyo", line 266, in ApplyPatch File "lib\steps\applyHttpPatch.pyo", line 43, in Run File "zsync\zsync.pyo", line 708, in ApplyPatch File "zsync\zsync.pyo", line 708, in ApplyPatch File "zsync\zsync.pyo", line 661, in PatchFile File "zsync\zsync.pyo", line 653, in PatchFile File "zsync\fileSync.pyo", line 382, in GetBlock KeyError: (931562017, 'h\x8b\xc3\x9c\xa1^\xc0\xae\x02\xac\x162\xcei\xda\x8a') Locals by frame, innermost last: Frame __bootstrap in threading.pyo at line 524: ... ... ...
Twitter:-á-á @AareyaEVE
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corebloodbrothers
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
1246
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:15:09 -
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stuck at 0 procent, rebooted, ran from bin, exe, all not working, windows 7, hury have a region to defend from the horrible goons |

Rath Valent
Lonestar Distribution Inc. Waterboard Comedy Tour
4
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:15:38 -
[36] - Quote
Mark Zachary wrote:Hey, not sure whether this is the right place to say this, but every time I try and download the update the game (via the launcher), it gets stuck at Creating Patch 0.0%.
Any ideas on what I can do to fix this?
Thanks
I have the same issue on both a Windows 8.1 and a Windows 10 machine. It seems that the launcher is starved for cycles unless the mouse is moving over it.
I think the underlying UI (Flash?) for the launcher needs a revamp so that it runs at full speed even when it doesn't have focus.
RV |

Holven Castano
Astapor Training Services
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:16:35 -
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Had the same issues, got stuck at 60 %, then i opened Sysinternals Process Monitor to see whats going on and suddenly it was working. Also the Launcher is doing a horrible amount of registry queries everytime before it checks a file just to ask where the cachefolder is. Also Windows 10 here. |

BigNarna
Bent Yellow
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:16:35 -
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Just adding my voice to the 'broken patch' noise.
Yes the progress bar does not change unless moving the mouse over the screen. Progress is VERY slow - did someone break the link to Australia?
And it does not finish giving an error:
Exception during UpdaterModule.Update . . . KeyError: (1702266107, '\x1c\xa8?o\xf4\x9f\xbd:\xa9\x82;LA\xbf\x04[')
Yes I have relaunched the loader and tried again.
Very sad, I needed some pirate killing therapy today, not more angst. 
Please fix quickly, I promise to keep buying plex, honest.
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Tedanyaki
The Replicators Kadeshians
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:19:38 -
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Launcher stuck at Creating patch 0.0%..
Relaunched, nothing.
Tried repair tool - failed.
Relaunched launcher, nothing.
Windows 10 |

Pikatti Tawate
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:19:45 -
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Shetani Kami wrote:Nankeen Heron wrote:Pikatti Tawate wrote:Anyone else having severe issues downloading the update? Mine has gotten stuck at different points each time. Creating patch 0.0 2x's. Downloading Patch @ roughly 82%, 55%, 71%, we will see about this one. Each time I wait for about 5 minutes before taking action to try and fix it. Even tried to repair the game in between downloads. Stuck at "Creating patch 0.0%"; restarting the launcher doesn't help. No CPU or disk activity to speak of. same issue here. mine gets to 60%. restarting does not help.
It finally works! Took my computer to work after it froze at 74% for 15minutes. Thankfully the boss is not here so I can get my fix before starting work. 
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Aareya
TNT Logistics and SRP Tactical Narcotics Team
40
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:27:11 -
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Aareya wrote:Exception during UpdaterModule.Update Traceback (most recent call last): File "lib\update.pyo", line 116, in run File "lib\update.pyo", line 380, in _Update File "lib\update.pyo", line 266, in ApplyPatch File "lib\steps\applyHttpPatch.pyo", line 43, in Run File "zsync\zsync.pyo", line 708, in ApplyPatch File "zsync\zsync.pyo", line 708, in ApplyPatch File "zsync\zsync.pyo", line 661, in PatchFile File "zsync\zsync.pyo", line 653, in PatchFile File "zsync\fileSync.pyo", line 382, in GetBlock KeyError: (931562017, 'h\x8b\xc3\x9c\xa1^\xc0\xae\x02\xac\x162\xcei\xda\x8a') Locals by frame, innermost last: Frame __bootstrap in threading.pyo at line 524: ... ... ...
After repeated failures with the same message, I walked away from the PC for a few minutes, then tried it again. No more error.
Sometimes you just need to get a cup of coffee for things to work right :)
Twitter:-á-á @AareyaEVE
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Meow Meow
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:38:38 -
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Several attempts in.
Restarted computer once. Restarted launcher (lost count). Waited, hovering mouse over for 5+ minutes (twice). Tried the other "fixes" suggested here.
Bored...
Don't make me go talk to my girlfriend!!!!  |

Kabberwocky
Tri-Star Enterprise
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:51:33 -
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Having Same Issues
Windows 8 updated fine but Windows 10 is having the issues
CCP we need some guidance |

Steijn
Quay Industries
1007
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:53:01 -
[44] - Quote
CCP posted this in the other thread |

Loosei Pares
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:54:54 -
[45] - Quote
well cant log in patch wont update ,( ccp |

Myvatn
Froosh INC. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 13:55:15 -
[46] - Quote
Same problem here.
Launchers starts up, Login in and then stops responding. The patch bar remains grey and need to close the launcher by using the task manager.
I am using Windows 10. |

Loosei Pares
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:03:12 -
[47] - Quote
ive tryed every thing even repairing the lurncher nuthing is working for me atm |

Chey Chey Ransom
Somewhat Loving Unbelievably Tyrannical Soldiers Somewhat Evil Xenophobic YOLOers
4
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:07:22 -
[48] - Quote
Meow Meow wrote:Several attempts in. Restarted computer once. Restarted launcher (lost count). Waited, hovering mouse over for 5+ minutes (twice). Tried the other "fixes" suggested here. Bored... Don't make me go talk to my girlfriend!!!! 
At least you have a girlfriend to talk to. I have to leave my basement to talk to me mom and the light is so bright up there....SO BRIGHT!!!!! |

Meesohorny Ishikela
Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:10:39 -
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Stuck @ 0.0% & bored ....help!!!
...Drop Acid & Bombs...
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Colman Dietmar
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
56
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:26:00 -
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In the "sovereignty" tab in solar system info clicking sovereign alliance's icon does nothing. I'm pretty sure it should lead to the alliance's info page, just like it does if you click TCU/IHub owners icon just below. |

Malcolm Erkkinen
Malkys INC. Empire Services
7
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:31:14 -
[51] - Quote
Hardly a "successful" update - I'm using Windows 8.1 and the game refuses to update. I'm therefore unable to play....that is not my definition of "successful! |

Elizabeth Salisbury
The Congregation No Handlebars.
6
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:35:24 -
[52] - Quote
Well mine worked perfectly, and I got windows 10, so nothing to do with the OS  |

Kroaky Oke
Old Spot PissPots Inc
6
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:36:28 -
[53] - Quote
successfully deployed !! ?? what a joke .... i been trying for 2 1/2 hrs to update ... launcher sticks on 0% update , repair tool doesnt work , tried clearing cache , restarted computer ... total bullshit |

Jack Starkillar
SpielsuchtselbstHilfeGruppe W.A.S. Alliance - Weapons Armor or Shield
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:38:33 -
[54] - Quote
o7
got this Graphic Bug which i had several months ago, too.. but not at the last time.. after Galatea i had this again.. 
WTF....  
i can turn Camera and it-¦s stays the same.. it comes and disappears..
hope CCP Fix this again... -.- |

m dowe10
The Scope Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:39:49 -
[55] - Quote
Stuck @ 0.0% & bored ....help!!! and i am not even using a mac |

Borg Stoneson
SWARTA SWARTA.
48
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:47:37 -
[56] - Quote
Anything in this patch for the endless socket disconnects? |

Arias Seven Seven
Stark's Kerbside Hauler Universal Logistics
1
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:55:31 -
[57] - Quote
After all the Windows 10 comments, I'm glad to be on Windows 7. BTW, why did we skip windows 9? |

Max Kolonko
WATAHA. Unseen Wolves
545
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:55:58 -
[58] - Quote
Spc One wrote:What does that mean exactly ? Missions & NPCs: The Drifter armada has arrived and the time has come to step up and join the Navy Fleet in their battle to defend the Throne Worlds from this hostile attack. We can join amarr kill drifters and get some rewards / Loyalty points ? 
open journal, go to incursions, You will notice drifter incursion are now a thing. Get 24 other bodies and go farm drifters with all the cool kids.
Read and support:
Don't mess with OUR WH's
What is Your stance on WH stuff?
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CCP Lebowski
C C P C C P Alliance
634

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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:58:24 -
[59] - Quote
Colman Dietmar wrote:In the "sovereignty" tab in solar system info clicking sovereign alliance's icon does nothing. I'm pretty sure it should lead to the alliance's info page, just like it does if you click TCU/IHub owners icon just below. CCP Punkturis fixed this recently, it will be out in the next patch. 
CCP Lebowski | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Five-0
@CCP_Lebowski
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tgl3
Wormhole Engineers Greater Realms
543
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Posted - 2015.08.25 14:59:24 -
[60] - Quote
Incursion UI is not correct. Shows Sansha flagship information for Drifter incursion - https://i.imgur.com/nOtWhNF.png
Twitter - TG_3
Ex EVE Blogger - posts still available at Through Newb Eyes
Chat channels in-game; "RvB Spooning R US", "RvB Ganked", "Basket"
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Yukimisama
Deviant Dollyz
23
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Posted - 2015.08.25 15:03:45 -
[61] - Quote
Downloading updates 173kb/38.27 MB 0.0%.... been stuck there after launcher restarts/computer restarts/network restarts since I got up 2 hours ago... this is alot of fun.
In My World...
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CCP RedDawn
C C P C C P Alliance
639

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Posted - 2015.08.25 15:07:23 -
[62] - Quote
We have a defect for this, thanks for shining some light on it.
Team Space Glitter
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Loosei Pares
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 15:14:39 -
[63] - Quote
still canot login to eve patch will not start or even run this is realy f--ked
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Knight Kado
The Muppet's Enterprises
2
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Posted - 2015.08.25 15:27:06 -
[64] - Quote
CCP should kick all the idiots involved in deploying and designing this patch into the snow...
CCP Phantom.. do you know what a 'successful patch deployment' means???.
It means that your customers can use the program their subscribed too without issue...... |

Tingeling Arjar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 15:29:12 -
[65] - Quote
Can I download the latest patch somewhere? The launcher seems broken for me, and I have limited bandwith so I am not that keen on constantly downloading the entire game..
EDIT: NVM.. I can see I am not the only one.. I havent used the launcher for a while since it really never worked for me. So I guess the questions still stands anyway. |

Ero Adalwulf
Wormhole Mining Minions
10
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Posted - 2015.08.25 15:35:16 -
[66] - Quote
Bellasarius Baxter wrote:I recently switched to windows 10, and I have noticed that the progress bar is not updated unless 1) The launcher is NOT the window which has focus 2) OR(!) if the launcher window has focus I have to move my mouse around inside the window to get it to update the display.
Perhaps this is what is going on with some of the players.
It's been like that for awhile for some of the people that use WINE instead of MS Windows. I had just commented that it had seemed to have gone away....... guess Win10 found it. 
If it's the same, wiggle mouse 'til you see bar moving, then leave mouse pointer on the progress bar (if afk).
Ero
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Dario Kaelenter
ACME HARDWARE
5
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Posted - 2015.08.25 15:37:35 -
[67] - Quote
If you're still unable to get it to patch then try importing the patch as per this thread :
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5991729#post5991729 |

Renegade Heart
Elite PvP Corp
522
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Posted - 2015.08.25 15:44:18 -
[68] - Quote
Patch downloaded fine for me, nice and quick. Worked first time. GJ CCP! |

Ero Adalwulf
Wormhole Mining Minions
10
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Posted - 2015.08.25 15:47:40 -
[69] - Quote
Aareya wrote: After repeated failures with the same message, I walked away from the PC for a few minutes, then tried it again. No more error.
Sometimes you just need to get a cup of coffee for things to work right :)
All bow to the benevolent Bean that makes the world bearable! Feel the joy of java. |

Loosei Pares
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.08.25 15:52:30 -
[70] - Quote
i got eve working bye uninstalling the hole game and redownloading it  |

Ero Adalwulf
Wormhole Mining Minions
10
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Posted - 2015.08.25 15:57:51 -
[71] - Quote
Arias Seven Seven wrote:After all the Windows 10 comments, I'm glad to be on Windows 7. BTW, why did we skip windows 9?
Guess they're trying to distance the new version from the old code. Ironically, it's just a name not a version......
Win 8.1 is version 6.3 Win 10 is version 6.4
But the true answer might be because there are 10 types of people in the world... Those that use MS Windows, and those that don't. 
or maybe...
"Windows 10, because 7 8 9." |

Ero Adalwulf
Wormhole Mining Minions
10
|
Posted - 2015.08.25 16:07:06 -
[72] - Quote
On serious note, all 12 clients here at work updated first time.
Mix of WINE, Mac and a Win7.
Wish those stuck, the best of luck. See you in space.
Ero |

Tillblik Mangeiri
Major League Infidels Size Really Doesn't Matter
4
|
Posted - 2015.08.25 16:09:54 -
[73] - Quote
Eve wouldn't patch when I woke up3 hours ago. But patched mormally this time. |

Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
919
|
Posted - 2015.08.25 16:21:00 -
[74] - Quote
There's no capital rebalance. No serious iteration on sov. None has even been formally announced. Do you even ******* care that your game is in decline, CCP? |

Clyde en Marland
Raised By Wolves Inc Nerfed Alliance Go Away
6
|
Posted - 2015.08.25 16:33:05 -
[75] - Quote
Ero Adalwulf wrote:Arias Seven Seven wrote:After all the Windows 10 comments, I'm glad to be on Windows 7. BTW, why did we skip windows 9? Guess they're trying to distance the new version from the old code. Ironically, it's just a name not a version...... Win 8.1 is version 6.3 Win 10 is version 6.4 But the true answer might be because there are 10 types of people in the world... Those that use MS Windows, and those that don't.  or maybe... "Windows 10, because 7 8 9."
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2690724/why-windows-10-isnt-named-9-windows-95-legacy-code.html
tl;dr Lazy devs checking to see if the OS name matched "Windows 9*" (95 or 98)
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Kass Boor
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
11
|
Posted - 2015.08.25 16:45:39 -
[76] - Quote
In the last paragraph of the patch not the following point is made:
- Cancelling capital change from No capital now works as expected
What does that mean?
Do I need to go worry about my caps-lock key?
Arias Seven Seven wrote:After all the Windows 10 comments, I'm glad to be on Windows 7. BTW, why did we skip windows 9? That's because there are still programs written ages ago who will check for: Windows 95 and 98, and because the programmers were clueless they just check for: "Windows 9*". And then that program running on windows 9 would tell you your version is too old and not compatible. |
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CCP Turtlepower
C C P C C P Alliance
253

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Posted - 2015.08.25 17:01:07 -
[77] - Quote
Kass Boor wrote:In the last paragraph of the patch not the following point is made:
- Cancelling capital change from No capital now works as expected
What does that mean? No, this is referring to Alliance capital changes. |
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Galdon Patrouette
Urkrathos Corp LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
2
|
Posted - 2015.08.25 18:19:32 -
[78] - Quote
spent over an hour trying to get it to run. update downloaded, click on play. sits there, rolls to launching, sorta, then rolls back to Play, sits there , Launching appears half way, etc. cleared cache, tried all the above again, repaired, same thing, what the heck. missing all day so far. need some reimbursement and or skill points for the lost time
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TETAH 4
Nomen-illis-Legio Legion of xXDEATHXx
0
|
Posted - 2015.08.25 19:31:27 -
[79] - Quote
Server works fine  |

Kuja Armitage
Rogue Drones Dancing Tango
0
|
Posted - 2015.08.25 19:31:40 -
[80] - Quote
Quote:Skill check icon has been changed to blue.
Why this change? For some reason this blue bothers me like hell  |

Desra Mascani
Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords
30
|
Posted - 2015.08.25 21:39:16 -
[81] - Quote
Oh, you bastards!
Why did you destroy one of the Eve icons? The new Domi is horrible. It looks absolutely generic, like some instantly forgettable American hotrod car (they all look the same).
I did not mind the Mega, the Caracal, the Moa (good riddance) but why the Potato? Sacrilege! On a pirate's island, the designer would get the black spot, probably directly from the Bible's page with Ezekiel 25:17
Phew! |

Skalle Pande
Teknisk Forlag
91
|
Posted - 2015.08.25 21:42:02 -
[82] - Quote
Ero Adalwulf wrote:On serious note, all 12 clients here at work updated first time.
Mix of WINE, Mac and a Win7.
Wish those stuck, the best of luck. See you in space.
Ero Same here - flawless updating, even with me playing on a Win10 laptop and WiFi connection. I am not quite certain that CCP is to blame for all that is not well in this world...
Hopefully things get sorted out eventually for all of you :-) |

Ziranda Hakuli
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
160
|
Posted - 2015.08.25 21:48:14 -
[83] - Quote
Interesting patch. been away for a long time thought i come and check the new toys out and wonder why everyone is having issues with the patch.
do not forget to update your drivers |

Zayne Neilson
Dead Men of Dunharrow
2
|
Posted - 2015.08.25 21:57:56 -
[84] - Quote
Nice shiny chrome on the new Domi, but I noticed that even though the Sin uses the new model it's ISIS icon is still the old model. Then when I switched to High-Q shaders to fully appreciate it and I changed back to Med-Q shaders while the preview window was open the game crashed. |

Helene Fidard
CTRL-Q
25
|
Posted - 2015.08.25 22:31:34 -
[85] - Quote
rip dominix
G£¥ G£¥ G£¥
(although the navy issue looks pretty cool GÇô you win this time ccp) |

Rusky Dimpleskins
Industrialists Never Die Aureus Alae
10
|
Posted - 2015.08.25 23:23:44 -
[86] - Quote
I had to manually inject the patch into the launcher to get the game working. Prior to this, the repair tool did not fix the issue and leaving the launcher sit for a few hours didn't help.
Every time the launcher was opened it just sat at 0.0% and if you tried to close the launcher it would crash/not respond. |

Gil Wallace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
15
|
Posted - 2015.08.25 23:53:49 -
[87] - Quote
Again Tranquility becomes the mass test server because CCP fails in doing real mass testing and is just in this new were gonna push an update no matter what. Who ever is making these decisions is CCP worst enemy. Makes ya wonder if they were hired by some competitor to help ruin the game.
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Violent Grey
Heaven's Edge
3
|
Posted - 2015.08.26 00:03:23 -
[88] - Quote
sweet, cant wait to check them out. |

Knight Kado
The Muppet's Enterprises
2
|
Posted - 2015.08.26 00:06:17 -
[89] - Quote
Wonder what the code changes were to get this patch to work properly.... finally
Obviously it wasn't tested enough if at all in the rush to deploy it...... that's good business... |

Hal Morsh
Delusions of Granduer
382
|
Posted - 2015.08.26 00:28:51 -
[90] - Quote
Mon Calamari potato ready.
Dun'Gal > Hal is simply an imperfect ai, though if drunkeness ever gets programmed into ai's I foresee both a hilarious and tragic end to humanity.
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Jeven HouseBenyo
Baron and Serpent Productions
210
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Posted - 2015.08.26 01:03:49 -
[91] - Quote
General feedback huh?
A few suggestions.
1. Quit using TQ as your mass test server. That's Sisi's job.
2. Fix the Launcher to work reliably, correctly, without Grey Bar of EverWait, wiggle the mouse to get your update, or scrap it and find another way to login AND update. (client.exe doesn't update, only play game)
3. Learn the actual definition of 'successful' and operate your Icelandic to unwashed masses Dictionary from that fresh start.
4. Fix bugs sitting on the list for months (if not years) to earn some cute credits from your paying customer base.
5. Moar shiny ship SKINs are nice, but not a failsafe to cover neglected promises to your paying customer base. (bannable offense glitch exploit list in one easy to find place, customized icons, open the door alright already or put a wall over it, expanding on racial missions and lore, putting back in the Region 'color text' descriptions that were accidentally removed (Ha! thought it was forgotten and you slipped by!) cleaning up the anti-user-friendly Corporation window, same for Planetary Interaction, etc.)
6. Slow the FRAK down on this fast track release cycle when what is coming out is so full of bugs it's a chigger convention.
7. The reason for a change, 'cuz reasons, is not a reason for change. Change should be for the good, not just because shiny.
8. Better response time to issues that are popping up, in a tone that's at least polite to your paying customers. I get that Eve is a harsh cruel place of Everyone Hates Me. But that might not be the best method to use Out Of Game for customer service. Hate on me (and others) ingame, not as a company interacting with their paying playing base.
I'm one of the lucky ones, managed to download update and login without threatening bodily harm to the Launcher. That's not a promising thing, when the squeaky wheel is the one getting to eat rocks and blast rats. Seriously, CCP you have a problem. Whatever is going on in your Icelandic minds, might want to do a rescache.exe on your planning and 'Vision!' and clean out some seriously corrupted files inbound on your future.
>Jeven
Minny boat flyer, when all else doesn't work, smack the control panel.
Snark at 11 24/7/365.25.
You're not rid of me yet..... Erzulie help you.
No you can't has my stuffs!
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loquacious7
String Theory For. U The Obsidian Front
21
|
Posted - 2015.08.26 01:09:00 -
[92] - Quote
Zearkcees wrote:Patch failed..
Launcher Froze and now not responding
Repair tool failed
Tick Tock...
Can we get a patch to patch the launcher patch. I will help pay for a meta 9 version :p thanks for getting this worked out. |

Quadima
Steam Powered Spaceships
144
|
Posted - 2015.08.26 01:55:42 -
[93] - Quote
The new incursions...
Well, awesome to have another "enemy" and some new PVE content but... really ?
On SISI: - 200k ehp battleship enters site - gets locked - drifters fire twice ( not DD, just normal guns ), ~10 seconds BOOM.
If I do the same in a Sansha HQ site, it takes a while to die... they don't instalock and instapop...
-- Variant 2: - Significant remote rep fleet enters site - Ships start popping nevertheless - Everyone dies - Nice display of 30-40 battleship wrecks
- Variant 3: MJD - Pointless, they hit perfectly at any range Speed tank - Pointless, their guns don't miss Attempting to neut them - No effect Jamming - No effect Damping - Completely pointless, drifters still have instalock and infinite range
-- Doesn't anyone in CCP think that it's just a bit too extreme ??
Even if there's some kind of a "trick" which we still have to discover, there's no chance of applying the trick if you die as soon as you exit warp. And people thought that the occasional 2 BS's on a gate were "tough"... right. |

Sylveria Relden
94
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Posted - 2015.08.26 03:15:25 -
[94] - Quote
Thank you so much for redesigning the eyesore formerly known as the space potato! Looks so much better now :)
I'm sure there's going to be a lot of haters, but there's also a lot more who love the new redesign. Awesome work, and it even has a visible drone bay this time, too. :)
TL;DR If you didn't read the entire post perhaps you're probably ADHD. (seek help)
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Arduin Agalder
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2015.08.26 03:33:32 -
[95] - Quote
Is it just me, or are the new Moire effects on PI annoying? It may improve visibility of the heat map (not sure, it may be a little better), but it is very distracting. |

Severastis
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2015.08.26 06:57:50 -
[96] - Quote
Steijn wrote:CCP posted this in the other thread
Are we supposed to download a multy-GB game EVERY SINGLE PATCH?!
Because EVER PATCH has this exact same problem with the patcher.
Drop flash, and write a proper patcher that can do it's job without needing you to hover your mouse over it, or needing to restart it 10x, repair 3x, and eventually stop out of frustration because the problem is the servers not having upload capacity, but the patcher is too stupid to handle the exception.
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subject 001
Aperture Science inc.
0
|
Posted - 2015.08.26 08:43:06 -
[97] - Quote
FC my launcher patched correctly 1st time no issues (you just have to be patient, if it seems stuck on creating patch 0% or downloading updates 100% you just have to wait... don't be impatient it will finish correctly if you just give it some time).
Also, biggest change: "Ships fitted with an Entosis Link can no longer accelerate beyond 4000 m/s."
GODDAMMIT CCP, you nerfed my >9.000m/s kiting entosis navy omen! |

Madbuster73
C.Q.B Snuffed Out
140
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Posted - 2015.08.26 11:44:17 -
[98] - Quote
I am running windows 10 and yesterday it patched just fine, I even played the game for a while. Today I try to start the game but it is stuck at "Initializing..." for 15 minutes now. I tried to restart 3 times and even rebooted my PC.
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Narabri Beerbaum
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2015.08.26 11:44:50 -
[99] - Quote
Also stuck at 0%. Nothing happens... |

Marley Jr Gong
0
|
Posted - 2015.08.26 11:49:43 -
[100] - Quote
was all fine yesterday, until today downtime. Now the launcher is stuck at "Creating Patch 0,0%" and nothing happens :(
YARRRRRR
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Picah Ascending
Miners League of Exploration Coalition Requiem Eternal
1
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Posted - 2015.08.26 11:53:50 -
[101] - Quote
At least ya'll got past 'Initializing......' |

MajorQueros
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
0
|
Posted - 2015.08.26 11:54:05 -
[102] - Quote
Installed the update yesterday and worked fine. After today's downtime it's stuck at initializing on my desktop, while I have no problems on my laptop. |

Nong Hoi NguoiDep
Nguoi Dep Logistics Loving Incs
0
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Posted - 2015.08.26 11:55:43 -
[103] - Quote
Hello, omg are you kidding with launcher bs again wth up with this game launcher bs . ccp need to do something about this bs ever since this resource on demand bs game getting worse,. do something or eve is a gonner. Hello wake up.
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Urgg Boolean
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
402
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Posted - 2015.08.26 11:57:53 -
[104] - Quote
Reinforce the message of "stuck at initialize". I guess the small brained mammals are running things again...
Honest to God, I left this game for an extended hiatus. At that time, there were 55-60K online at peak times. Came back when scholl was done. Now 25-30K at peaks. Is it any wonder with this type of frustrating situation over and over again? The root cause is small brained mammals.
So CODE ensures noobs rage quit. And small brained mammals running the patching tasks ensure the vets are frustrated and leave. Sounds like a solid business model. |

Ion Blacknight
The Graduates Get Off My Lawn
30
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Posted - 2015.08.26 12:00:23 -
[105] - Quote
Initializing...
War reports: Blacknight active
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Thane Kuvora
Lex Solutus Dramatic Exit.
6
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Posted - 2015.08.26 12:00:42 -
[106] - Quote
Since DT now i'm not getting Creating patch 0.0% Now im getting stuck on Initializing.
I have not played the game in 24 hours because of this nonsense!!! I have a corp to run...fix this already CCP. |

Joost Gallente
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2015.08.26 12:03:08 -
[107] - Quote
launcher won't start the update
good times, getting jealous of all my friends who already quit eve |

Grythome DrakeAmour
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
12
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Posted - 2015.08.26 12:10:26 -
[108] - Quote
Stuck at initializing on the launcher today after a successful patch yesterday
(after multiple restarts on the launcher, I see the number of concurrent pilots jump from 7410 to more than 8000, and now the patch/launcher is running) |

Shing Thsu
hirr Northern Coalition.
4
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Posted - 2015.08.26 12:22:34 -
[109] - Quote
WHY THE FACK I WASNT ABLE TO LOOT WRECK AFTER MY ALT KILLED SHIP IN 0.0 SPACE, WHAT A FACKING **** IS THIS WITH GREEN WRECKS IN 0.0 ? AND WHICH ****** CAME WITH THIS ******** IDEA ?
FACK OFF CCP AND YO ******** IDEAS !!
For all grammar n.a.z.i and likes n.a.z.i one word: nasra+Ñ !
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Spyra Gryra
Tash-Murkon Scrap and Salvage
14
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Posted - 2015.08.26 12:35:59 -
[110] - Quote
Marley Jr Gong wrote:was all fine yesterday, until today downtime. Now the launcher is stuck at "Creating Patch 0,0%" and nothing happens :(
In the same boat. Oh dear.
EDIT: It just started working all of a sudden. I literally did nothing. |

Tireinn
Society of the Endless Circle-Of-Two
0
|
Posted - 2015.08.26 15:31:03 -
[111] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Galatea has been successfully deployed o August 25 during an regular downtime. With Galatea we see an iteration on sovereignty capture mechanics, new Designer SKINs, improved visual effects of utility modules, a new Dominix model, UI improvements and more. The full details of all changes and improvements are available in the Galatea patch notes. Please post general feedback and discussions in this thread.Report issues with the release on the PC in the Galatea issues thread. For Mac users, there is, as always, a thread on the Macintosh forums for discussion of this release here.
Initializing ...
... you broke it! :( |

Mr Scofflaw
Just a Ride
0
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Posted - 2015.08.26 17:20:39 -
[112] - Quote
HAHAHAHA, I missed the patch fiasco for once, yay for me :)
swaatymec baaaatch wrote:but but but I liked the way the old dami looked you know like a huge space turd ....... ty for update :)
Yeah, nothing like a Gallente npc scratching his Domi backside on a gate, but who ever was so "imaginative" to make a giant vexorish shaped hull out of the thing, stop it. What's next, the Obelisk?
P.S. : the spell check in this game should have native words to Eve added, no?
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Vila eNorvic
63
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Posted - 2015.08.26 19:18:13 -
[113] - Quote
At last I have my new Dominix!!!
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
The potato has been peeled and I can now fly a Domi without embarrassment. |

Thonys Visser
Green Visstick High
9
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Posted - 2015.08.26 22:14:32 -
[114] - Quote
Borg Stoneson wrote:Anything in this patch for the endless socket disconnects?
I had the same thing twice today SOCKET LOSS (but i didnt loose any socks off my feet :) -just restart the game - but its annoying for sure
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
8708
|
Posted - 2015.08.27 06:13:44 -
[115] - Quote
Warp scrambling effect looks like from some disney cartoon, imagine princess warp scrambling his prince in a colorful and cartoony way.
Custom ship skins | Since 2014 | Character creator style "repaint" | Bring back the dream
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Cat silth
ASH TO DUST Obsidian Descendants
44
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Posted - 2015.08.27 12:21:42 -
[116] - Quote
Unable to patch - stuck on 0% patiton sent |

ms subdamage
Dark Delusions Violent Declaration
0
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Posted - 2015.08.27 12:33:01 -
[117] - Quote
Unable to patch - stuck on 0% |

Tiana Makarov
UNITAS. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2015.08.27 12:53:43 -
[118] - Quote
Unable to patch stuck at 0.0% ..... CCPLEASE FIX |

Jonas Hakaari
The Warp Core Stabilizers Tactical Narcotics Team
0
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Posted - 2015.08.27 13:08:31 -
[119] - Quote
Client stuck at 0.0%, what gives ?? Have tried various "fixes" but still no luck |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1450
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Posted - 2015.08.27 13:53:28 -
[120] - Quote
I do like the moving parts on the Dominix, makes the weird round bit finally have a purpose. |

Musico
House Of Troy
0
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Posted - 2015.08.27 13:59:22 -
[121] - Quote
cant get past 'creating patch', tried everything suggested in these posts, nothing seems to work.
Come on CCP get your act together and get this sorted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Running windows 10 |

Wut Maschine
Apple Inc. People Who Annoy You
4
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Posted - 2015.08.27 14:14:10 -
[122] - Quote
Still can't find the Hello Kitty skin in the New Eden store. Where do I report this bug? |

Vol Arm'OOO
Bagel and Lox
732
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Posted - 2015.08.27 15:16:44 -
[123] - Quote
Icons still terrible and difficult to see.
I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
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Orm Magnustat
Red Serpent Industries
151
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Posted - 2015.08.27 17:56:32 -
[124] - Quote
Vila eNorvic wrote:At last I have my new Dominix!!!
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
The potato has been peeled and I can now fly a Domi without embarrassment. lucky you ... you have at least one thing you like about the update.
Unfortunately for me I liked the old Domi design way more. :-(
Can i perhaps have the old Domi look in form of a skin or sthg? |

Zane Patrouette
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2015.08.27 23:42:15 -
[125] - Quote
Spc One wrote:What does that mean exactly ? Missions & NPCs: The Drifter armada has arrived and the time has come to step up and join the Navy Fleet in their battle to defend the Throne Worlds from this hostile attack. We can join amarr kill drifters and get some rewards / Loyalty points ? 
That's not a bad idea getting loyalty points with the Amarr. But I think the whole thing with the Drifters points to a rogue military faction in the Gallente Federation, who wants to destroy the Amarr so Gallente will be free to re-conquer the Caldari. So these short sighted war hawks have done a deal with the space devil to split EVE with the drifters.  |

Sky Marshal
Core Industry. Circle-Of-Two
86
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Posted - 2015.08.28 21:39:28 -
[126] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:UI improvements and more.
I hoped it would be something like good old RGB sliders, and of course it wasn't :/ still with the same broken and too dark UI then... |

BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
461
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Posted - 2015.08.29 00:11:33 -
[127] - Quote
This is the worst patch I've ever seen. Nothing but trouble and.... oh wait, I haven't downloaded it yet. Never mind... |

Rivr Luzade
Exclusion Cartel The Kadeshi
1837
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Posted - 2015.08.30 08:17:34 -
[128] - Quote
I trust CCP J+¦rg is working on a proper replacement for the Rouge Drone Dominix.
Station Tab :: UI Improvement Collective
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OldWolf69
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
192
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Posted - 2015.08.31 03:36:05 -
[129] - Quote
...the worst patch i've never seen. |

Masao Kurata
Perkone Caldari State
269
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Posted - 2015.08.31 16:57:07 -
[130] - Quote
The multiple character training overlay is even more annoying than the popup, just let us switch which characters are training without relogging for five minutes already rather than coding this crap. I know about multiple character training, you don't have to push it any harder than you already are, just give us a way to pause other characters' queues on the same account without relogging. |

marly cortez
Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance
92
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Posted - 2015.09.16 06:58:03 -
[131] - Quote
Character training and tracking has always been a problem in EVE, Should be a separate utility that can once accessed give players access to ALL there characters on all accounts and the ability to make changes without logging in every account to do it.
Own nothing, Build nothing, Plan nothing, Just blow it all up, you know it makes perfect sense, Fozzie says so.
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Shukan 02
MINING CASTE OF GOR
0
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Posted - 2015.09.18 13:50:40 -
[132] - Quote
GIVE ME A HIGH SEC USE FOR THE RORQUAL!
Or I move this court for a vote of no confidence. 
Veni, vidi, vici
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Freelancer117
So you want to be a Hero
345
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Posted - 2015.09.24 22:05:38 -
[133] - Quote
CCP games no love for the Vanguard patch 
where is the dedicated thread for general feedback and issues for the Vanguard patch ?
Regards, a Freelancer
PS: All new characters will now start with approximately 400,000 skillpoints rather than 50,000
This is a good start but should be worked out better and only apply to one character for every new account
source: http://crossingzebras.com/the-gorski-csm-report-2/
The players will make a better version of the game, then CCP initially plans.
http://eve-radio.com//images/photos/3419/223/34afa0d7998f0a9a86f737d6.jpg
The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?
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