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Hangman69
Horny AngryBear Lovers
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Posted - 2006.12.12 23:22:00 -
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Childs Play is a charity where gamers help children in hospitals afflicted with terrible diseases by giving games and systems to help them pass the time. Keeping the kids thoughts off the diseases they have is a worthwhile goal and should be commended. I thank CCP for being willing to put the link up, even though I am not affilated with childsplay or penny-arcade.com.
Just remember when you're thinking of what you want to get for the holidays theres kids worse off looking for something to pass the time as well. They would truly appreciate whatever they get. We gamers are truly an awesome force when we band together for cause.
http://www.childsplaycharity.org/
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Waxau
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2006.12.12 23:32:00 -
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Signed - I suggest folks check it out ^^ Damn good cause
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Hadean Drive Yards
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Posted - 2006.12.12 23:34:00 -
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Because Childs play is an awsome charity run by awsome people.
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Calderio
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.12 23:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Waxau
Signed - I suggest folks check it out ^^ Damn good cause
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Duff Man
Caldari
ANZAC ALLIANCE
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.12 23:53:00 -
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/signed
Worthy Cause.
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:03:00 -
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/Not Signed.
Just remember when deciding where to buy your conscience this Christmas, there are kids out there who have more grave concerns than getting an xbox to play with, and that would envy the plentiful food, medicines and clean sheets kids get at hospitals in the USA and Canada.
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Nir
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:10:00 -
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Originally by: James Snowscoran
/Not Signed.
Just remember when deciding where to buy your conscience this Christmas, there are kids out there who have more grave concerns than getting an xbox to play with, and that would envy the plentiful food, medicines and clean sheets kids get at hospitals in the USA and Canada.
Call me a cynic but I agree with this guy..
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Darion Kell
Placid Reborn
Placid Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:13:00 -
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If you actually read the website you'll see that they donate more than just games.
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Colonel K0rn
Caldari
Freedom-Technologies
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Nir
Originally by: James Snowscoran
/Not Signed.
Just remember when deciding where to buy your conscience this Christmas, there are kids out there who have more grave concerns than getting an xbox to play with, and that would envy the plentiful food, medicines and clean sheets kids get at hospitals in the USA and Canada.
Call me a cynic but I agree with this guy..
When you get children of your own that have spent as much time in the hospital as my own (and have enjoyed being able to play on hospital supplied consoles and games), you might fathom some sort of inkling of how any sort of creature comfort will provide a necessary distraction from the bleached and often mechanical workings of the Medical industry.
A very worthy cause, in my opinion. Not going to flame, because I'd hope that if you chose not to donate to this charity, you donate to another. You never know when you might be in need of assistance from others, and the kindess of those of us who DO donate might ease your troubles one day.
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:30:00 -
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Edited by: James Snowscoran on 13/12/2006 00:31:10
Originally by: Darion Kell
If you actually read the website you'll see that they donate more than just games.
Yeah, there's also toys. What's your point?
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Trollin
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Posted - 2006.12.13 00:40:00 -
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Edited by: Trollin on 13/12/2006 00:41:23
Originally by: James Snowscoran
Edited by: James Snowscoran on 13/12/2006 00:31:10
Originally by: Darion Kell
If you actually read the website you'll see that they donate more than just games.
Yeah, there's also toys. What's your point?
whats your's?
oh, yeah.. you don't really have one.. other than to be a ****.
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Trollin
Edited by: Trollin on 13/12/2006 00:43:09
Donation made.
feel free to donate meds to little african orphans on your own time James.
Every month for the past 3 years 
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Madcat Adams
Mission Runners Anonymous Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.12.13 01:40:00 -
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/sighned
Just because there are other worthy causes as well does not mean that this cause should be ignored. Also, giving food alone is not enough in places where it is not available. Some of that money should go to helping insure they will have food in the future, such as education and tools to help their communities become self sufficent.
Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and feed him for a lifetime.
It's great being Amarr, ain't it?
Aimez- "oh ****, this is empire......."
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Patric Murphy
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.13 01:45:00 -
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Edited by: Patric Murphy on 13/12/2006 01:46:23
Originally by: James Snowscoran
/Not Signed.
Just remember when deciding where to buy your conscience this Christmas, there are kids out there who have more grave concerns than getting an xbox to play with, and that would envy the plentiful food, medicines and clean sheets kids get at hospitals in the USA and Canada.
Well sorry if we greedy Americans want to help out our own children first. And before you keep bashing the fact that the foucus of the drive is to donate games, relize that those list of games and toys are submited by the hospitals. Tehy recognize that having those typs of comforts and moral booters are an important setp to getting healthy.
edit:typos
No, i cant spell,
Yes, i have an education.
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Caledric
Amarr
Spectral Armada
Eternal Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.13 01:58:00 -
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James obviously didn't read the site... the hospitals make up a list of what they want and people can either donate money or buy the toys on the list through amazon.com Also it is more then just US hospitals, Child's Play works with hospitals all over the world and is always looking to add more to its list.
I personally donate at least 500 dollars to this (which generally means I don't buy anything for myself and nothing expensive for my family) each year because of the fact that if it were not for Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh (who isn't a participant yet) I would not have a brother today. I remember the first time I went to visit my brother in the hospital. I brought him my NES because they didn't have one there for the kids to play with... I also remember how great it made him feel to have something to do and share with the other kids there. So while it may seem stupid and trivial to you, it means alot to the families and kids who have these diseases.
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Shevaresh
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Posted - 2006.12.13 02:02:00 -
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As someone who was quite sick as a child - I nearly died 4 times before I turned 18 - I would have loved having these kinds of things. As for other more important worthy causes - yes, those could be considered more important. And I do support those as well (monetarily).
But I find that helping out people that were in the same position as I was - that is, bedridden in massive pain for a few weeks while recovering from major surgery(s) - to be just as worthwhile, and we here are gamers.
There are groups that give books to kids, groups that give computers to schools, etc... let those of us that game give games to kids.
As a side note, Penny Arcade (whose creators also started Child's Play) is a fairly good comic most days. Of course, my sense of humor tends to be rather dark.
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Voodoosuicide
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Posted - 2006.12.13 02:06:00 -
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do they hand out chucky dolls?
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 02:16:00 -
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Wow.
11 million kids die each year before they reach the age of five, most of them by easily preventable diseases. Speaking metaphorically, the kids in American, European or Australian hospitals won the jackpot. They're getting medical treatment that most people can only dream about, and as such I think it's pretty damn redundant to do fundraising to solve what is, frankly, a very very minor issue in the world of 2006, namely the lack of video games and entertainment equipment in (predominantly) American hospitals.
Child's play was created to show the public that gamers can do great things when they band together. To me, it shows more than anything that gamers are maybe incapable of looking past their own noses when it comes to spotting the real issues that needs to be adressed in today's world.
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Thews Mortaza
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.12.13 02:58:00 -
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You forgot to add the "Bah, Humbug!".
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Miss Overlord
Gallente
Ferrum Pugnus
New Eve Order
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Posted - 2006.12.13 03:03:00 -
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worthwhile chartities always get my attention and some $$$ this is one of em
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Rustimon
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Posted - 2006.12.13 03:04:00 -
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Leave each one his touch of folly; it helps to lighten life's burden which, if he could see himself as he is, might be too heavy to carry.
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Rshu Jhorlk
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Posted - 2006.12.13 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: James Snowscoran
Wow.
11 million kids die each year before they reach the age of five, most of them by easily preventable diseases. Speaking metaphorically, the kids in American, European or Australian hospitals won the jackpot. They're getting medical treatment that most people can only dream about, and as such I think it's pretty damn redundant to do fundraising to solve what is, frankly, a very very minor issue in the world of 2006, namely the lack of video games and entertainment equipment in (predominantly) American hospitals.
Child's play was created to show the public that gamers can do great things when they band together. To me, it shows more than anything that gamers are maybe incapable of looking past their own noses when it comes to spotting the real issues that needs to be adressed in today's world.
 You forgot gravity. Everyone on Earth should be thankful for that. Bunch of insensitive clods if you ask me.
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2006.12.13 03:45:00 -
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/signed
Making a kid smile whilst he's mending in a hospital bed says it all. I know, my cousin went through a lengthy (2-3 year) hospital stay due to cancer, missing out on some great years he would have had in grade school.
James, everyone's got their causes, and whilst Child's Play may look to you like a gimmick, or worse, pointless, I assure you, the smile on a child's face, who may be terminally ill, when he/she finally gets something a little better this Xmas, will say volumes otherwise.
You dont see anyone else questioning your cause now, right? Please, let us do what we think is right and leave it be.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.13 03:45:00 -
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Originally by: James Snowscoran
Wow.
11 million kids die each year before they reach the age of five, most of them by easily preventable diseases.
If they were easily preventable, they wouldn't die.
There are billions spent every year by countless charities on this problem. Its not "easy," and saying so is an insult to all those who devote their life to it.
The existence of one cause does not deny the importance of any other.
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Fokus
Gallente
Powernaut
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Posted - 2006.12.13 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: James Snowscoran
Wow.
11 million kids die each year before they reach the age of five, most of them by easily preventable diseases. Speaking metaphorically, the kids in American, European or Australian hospitals won the jackpot. They're getting medical treatment that most people can only dream about, and as such I think it's pretty damn redundant to do fundraising to solve what is, frankly, a very very minor issue in the world of 2006, namely the lack of video games and entertainment equipment in (predominantly) American hospitals.
Child's play was created to show the public that gamers can do great things when they band together. To me, it shows more than anything that gamers are maybe incapable of looking past their own noses when it comes to spotting the real issues that needs to be adressed in today's world.
You should let people donate where they want to. You can donate every month for three years but you are still putting playing eve before the 'real problem' by paying your $14 a month which could be going to kids who are starving in Africa. Its..important up until the money I donate interferes with my ability to play Eve. Or live the life that I want to live. And you know, thats how it is for everyone, obviously we arent going to drop everything and send every dime we get to helping a cause that we have a hard time associating with. I dont think there is anything wrong with people wanting to donate their money to a cause that they feel somewhat connected to.
Donating to a charity like Child's Play is a great thing, so go home. Don't try to make people feel bad about the good things that they do. And honestly, I havent donated to Child's Play. I should have, but I haven't. This is not something I am writing just to defend where I put my money. Indeed, nobody should have to. None of us are Saints here I am sure.
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Mitten
Caldari
Gloves
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Posted - 2006.12.13 04:33:00 -
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Originally by: James Snowscoran
Wow.
11 million kids die each year before they reach the age of five, most of them by easily preventable diseases. Speaking metaphorically, the kids in American, European or Australian hospitals won the jackpot. They're getting medical treatment that most people can only dream about, and as such I think it's pretty damn redundant to do fundraising to solve what is, frankly, a very very minor issue in the world of 2006, namely the lack of video games and entertainment equipment in (predominantly) American hospitals.
Child's play was created to show the public that gamers can do great things when they band together. To me, it shows more than anything that gamers are maybe incapable of looking past their own noses when it comes to spotting the real issues that needs to be adressed in today's world.
TBH dont try and fking compare charities. There are also charities out there for abused children, are you going to go shut them down because theres better ways to spend that money then to make the abused children feel better about what happend, I mean what happend to them is already over its not like you can go back and take it away... so might as well just tell them to get over it and give the money to a different charity right?
How about giving it to... what? how do you prioritize such things?
Don't prioritize such things
ps. I'd like to note, alot of medical supplies and money thats donated to african countries, just an example, is stolen by that countries government and rebels... so yea some of our kids won the lottery, but not everyone even in US, UK, etc are lottery winners, theres kids being born with disabilities here too, theres kids being born to parents that cant/wont take care of their kids and even in the us/uk theres kids that are starving.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2006.12.13 06:03:00 -
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As a father of 2, I sign this.
Kids are kids, they don't care what country they were born or what other problems the world face. They just want to have fun and be happy. |
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Posted - 2006.12.13 06:08:00 -
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Thanks for putting up a link, I almost forgot to donate this year. Much props to Gabe and Tycho for this awesome charity.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2006.12.13 06:22:00 -
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I think there are two things when it comes to charities. First is that everyone who can should contribute to one or more, though not being involved doesn't make you a bad person. Second is to contribute to the charity you choose you feel strongly about. We support child's play partly because we're all gamers and this is gaming related. If you think another charity is better for you to support, then go support it! Send them money! And if this charity inspires you to go search for something else that you prefer, then we're still happy.
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Endlos Null
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.12.13 06:29:00 -
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To be honest, I think all the Child's Play bashing should just stop now. It's a charity for people to donate, not some competing organization for your money. Charities should be respected, not scorned at.
I personally donated out of my meager student wallet because I know that I could have simply just spent my money in unproductive ways (alcohol), and I know I made someone else happy.
Are there other charities that use money to help others? Yes.
Do I feel that my money could have been spent in a better way? No.
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Angelis666
Amarr
Atomic Heroes
Forces of Freedom
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Posted - 2006.12.13 08:03:00 -
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If it worked proberly it should be my sig now, I just hope it doesnt violate any rules on the forum
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Tharim
Code-Blue
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Posted - 2006.12.13 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: James Snowscoran
Wow.
11 million kids die each year before they reach the age of five, most of them by easily preventable diseases.
If they were easily preventable, they wouldn't die.
There are billions spent every year by countless charities on this problem. Its not "easy," and saying so is an insult to all those who devote their life to it.
The existence of one cause does not deny the importance of any other.
Diareah...Its hard to prevent isnt it. I cant help but agreeing with James. Its hard to justify bying toys to american kids when People die from..Diareah..
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Gone'Postal
Minmatar
LuthorCorp Combat Division
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Posted - 2006.12.13 12:07:00 -
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\Signed.. My childhood was spend in hospitals. (Must admit I never knew what was going on at that age the only thing I can remember is the hospital and the NES system I had to play on)
Good cause..
The man without a face...
The company without a clue.
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: James Snowscoran
Wow.
11 million kids die each year before they reach the age of five, most of them by easily preventable diseases.
If they were easily preventable, they wouldn't die.
There are billions spent every year by countless charities on this problem. Its not "easy," and saying so is an insult to all those who devote their life to it.
Easily preventable is just a common way of speech, that describes the difficulty in curing the disease. For example, diarrhea is an easily preventable disease, because it can be prevented in almost all cases by basic sanitation and access to clean drinking water, and it is also pretty simple and inexpensive to cure (a mixture of water, salt and sugar will do the trick in most cases iirc). The fact that the diseases are easy to deal with individually doesn't make the problem easy to deal with on a larger scale, however.
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The existence of one cause does not deny the importance of any other.
I agree. I just don't think Child's Play is a particularly important cause to put the efforts of a charity into. I was also hospitalized for extended periods as a kid, and I can't really say that the lack of xboxes made it unbearable. It was tough, sure, but in the end you look back and realize you were extremely fortunate to have medical institutions around that could actually give you the treatment you needed. I can sympathize with any kids that are inhospitalized, it's tough, sure, but you're given medical treatment the rest of the world could only dream of and for that you should be profoundly grateful. Noone chooses where they get born, after all.
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Kids are kids, they don't care what country they were born or what other problems the world face. They just want to have fun and be happy.
Heh. Lots of kids just want warm clothes, a hot meal, a roof over their heads, clean drinking water or a school they can attend. It all depends on your perspective I guess.
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Grez
Minmatar
The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2006.12.13 12:57:00 -
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Edited by: Grez on 13/12/2006 12:59:27
Originally by: Angelis666
If it worked proberly it should be my sig now, I just hope it doesnt violate any rules on the forum
It's a little big, but I doubt they'll mind in this case (you never know) :).
It's a charity aimed at helping people. Some charities aren't aimed at helping the sick, but rather not making their experience a completly horrible one.
Not to mention it's actualy proven that kids in high spirits (happy) generaly have a greater chance of surviving a child with the same illness, who is not.
I spent quite a few weeks of my childhood in hospital due to something I don't really like to talk about, and I still visit there every once in a while. It's a horrible site seeing children lying in bed, not doing anything, and books just don't cut it sometimes. This gives them something that they're able to enjoy, possibly more-so than books.
At the end of the day, if it helps just one child forget about their illness for a few hours, then I'm all for it.
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I just don't think Child's Play is a particularly important cause to put the efforts of a charity into. I was also hospitalized for extended periods as a kid, and I can't really say that the lack of xboxes made it unbearable. It was tough, sure......
That's exactly that they're trying to doing. Make it less tough on kids with illnesses.
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Northern Intelligence
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.13 13:13:00 -
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Heh, reading from the site I imagine something stupid like this:
You > "Hey Timmy. I got some good news and bad news."
Timmy > "Okay..."
You > "I am sorry to inform you that you only have 5 days left. But look at the bright side, we were so lucky and got a donation, and we manage to buy Nintendo Wii.."
You > "Now you can Wii your life out for the next 5 days."
TIMMY HAPPY? NO I DO NOT THINK SO!
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Jeanpierre Duvall
Caldari
Spectral Armada
Eternal Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.13 13:20:00 -
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Edited by: Jeanpierre Duvall on 13/12/2006 13:23:12
Well. I've gotta agree with James on this. But then making sure that kids in the industrial world have toys to play with is also a good cause. Making sure they have a X-box is just lame IMHO.
There are several very important things to make sure there is money to build a better world. Food for the starving, Meds for the sick, Research to bring new meds for incurable deceases, tools and machinery to make ppl independant. But also enviromental causes and research.
But what you donate money to is and always will be your own choise and is very colored by your experience. I donate money to the ones I deem Important.
On a slight side note. Why just not sign up as a volunteer and read stories to the children. A grownup keeping them company is surely better then a X-box.  One hour per week is more then enough.
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Oh. And also One thing don't exclude the next thing.
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Gunstar Zero
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.13 13:32:00 -
[38]
Originally by: James Snowscoran
Wow.
11 million kids die each year before they reach the age of five, most of them by easily preventable diseases. Speaking metaphorically, the kids in American, European or Australian hospitals won the jackpot. They're getting medical treatment that most people can only dream about, and as such I think it's pretty damn redundant to do fundraising to solve what is, frankly, a very very minor issue in the world of 2006, namely the lack of video games and entertainment equipment in (predominantly) American hospitals.
Child's play was created to show the public that gamers can do great things when they band together. To me, it shows more than anything that gamers are maybe incapable of looking past their own noses when it comes to spotting the real issues that needs to be adressed in today's world.
Dude
Different charities for different things.
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Rehmes
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Posted - 2006.12.13 13:33:00 -
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Being an International Relations major has allowed me to see what some of these less fortunate countries are like, a meeting with the South African Ambassador (though her country isnt as bad as others ofc) was an eye opener in itself.
I think as indviduals we feel strongly about different causes and i sometimes find myself divided because there seems like so much has to be done yet so little is being done.
Whatever cause you feel strongly for please do your best to encourage the cause and increase aweareness about it. I think the more people realize how fortunate we all are to be able to afford to play a videogame the more they realize that they are capable of doing a little bit more.
Any little bit helps and even if you never meet the people you are helping i am sure they will be grateful for your aid. As for childplay i will support it. Many kids in those hospitals have been there for many months and some have terminal diseases. We sometimes play EvE to relax and get away from RL and it is no different to these kids hooked up to all sorts of machines.
Please donate w/e you can to w/e cause you feel strongly about its a season of giving and im sure many of us could at least spare a dollar or two to these foundations.
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Ethidium Bromide
ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.13 13:36:00 -
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gus, honestly stop the ethics discussions!
help if you want to!
help where you think it's right!
as this is a gamer community this is where one can propse helping via supporting that chisld's play thingy.
Originally by: George Petsch
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rig0r
Arcane Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.13 14:26:00 -
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I wonder what's wrong with the EVE community lately that we're now debating charities.
Get a fricking life. Donate if you want, don't if you do not.
Enough of the stupid whining  Not EVERYTHING needs to be discussed.
Creator of eve-killboard.net. Get the killboard here.
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Spix 'UK
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Posted - 2006.12.13 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: Spix ''UK on 13/12/2006 14:37:09
Originally by: Trollin
Edited by: Trollin on 13/12/2006 00:43:09
Donation made.
feel free to donate meds to little african orphans on your own time James.
I dont agree with sending money to Afican orphans .. if there county cant help there own.. then its tuff really we should look after are own... & sure like the OP sending money for kids to play games while there layin on there death beds is a good idea.. as they prob dont have what ever other kids have.. the freedom to go outside & play with others etc so they should at least have some fun :) as for things like sending money to 3rd world places.. I totally disagree with it... why are they having more kids.. etc etc. when they have no food or running water, there bein stupid... why reproduce & spread AIDS etc. etc.. just wrong...they should learn to adapt & work it out for them selfs.. & if they cant perhaps.. its GODS way ( joke about the god lark.. but if ya belive in that ur choice ) of saying they should not bring any more into this world..
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Kerc Kasha
Caldari
Tsunami Syndicate
Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.13 14:37:00 -
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Dear god James, why not get off your ass and ship yourself to africa if it means that much to you that you put down another charity. The whole point of child's play is to make life for children that have to LIVE in a hospital the SLIGHEST bit more enjoyable. There is no such thing as an "more important charity" its all on personal opinion, so don't put down other people's opinions and then expect everyone to accept yours. Thats just sheer ignorance at its best.
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
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Posted - 2006.12.13 14:38:00 -
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I think this is great. Its great for CCP to put it up on their forums and give the charity a little free exposure to help out the kids.
Xornicon Altair of my corp put a link on our corp forums to the charity last week, and even sent out a mail to our corp asking folks if they could to help them out. That was kinda neat :)
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Posted - 2006.12.13 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: James Snowscoran
/Not Signed.
Just remember when deciding where to buy your conscience this Christmas, there are kids out there who have more grave concerns than getting an xbox to play with, and that would envy the plentiful food, medicines and clean sheets kids get at hospitals in the USA and Canada.
... and this comment puts food into how many kids' mouthes? Let alone X-box'es in the beds of how many terminally ill children?
Not signing up is one thing and a fair deal, but demeaning the efforts of other with smart@ss remarks about conscience consumption is, in my opinion, extremely bad taste...
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Altaree
Gallente
Red Frog Investments
Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 14:45:00 -
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Just found them using GuideStar. Guidestar Link
They are legit as far as the IRS is concerned. Donate with an unconcerned mind. They are still too young for their financial information to have made it through the IRS and back to the web.
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Spix 'UK
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Posted - 2006.12.13 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: Spix ''UK on 13/12/2006 15:05:49
Originally by: James Snowscoran
Wow.
11 million kids die each year before they reach the age of five, most of them by easily preventable diseases. Speaking metaphorically, the kids in American, European or Australian hospitals won the jackpot. They're getting medical treatment that most people can only dream about, and as such I think it's pretty damn redundant to do fundraising to solve what is, frankly, a very very minor issue in the world of 2006, namely the lack of video games and entertainment equipment in (predominantly) American hospitals.
Child's play was created to show the public that gamers can do great things when they band together. To me, it shows more than anything that gamers are maybe incapable of looking past their own noses when it comes to spotting the real issues that needs to be adressed in today's world.
11 million you say ? ... well perhaps they can lower that them selfs.. if they stop bein like little rabbits.. they are never goin to amount to anything.. nor will they ever be of any use to this world.. its all about balance... & it shows.. that perhaps they are just not ment to be... you should stop worrying about some 3rd world country & perhaps look at helping things like Cancer or sumthing in the world that can help everyone... not some people who dont even have running water or care about anyone else..
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Caldari
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Posted - 2006.12.13 14:51:00 -
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I support an Ex Forces charity, Why ? because I am Ex -Forces and have a link to what they do
I support a charity for transport Industry workers, Why? because I spent 20+ years in the transport and have a link to what they do.
I will support this charity, Why? because I get a lot of enjoyment from gaming, and that gives me a link to what they do.
Everyone is free to follow their own conscience and beliefs when giving to charity (or not), and I think with the plethora of charities out there it is human nature to look for one that you have an affinity too.
I dont believe that one charity is more valuable, or important than another, they just do different things and meet different needs.
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Caldari
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2006.12.13 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: merc999 on 13/12/2006 15:05:29
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Bael'Zhaeron
Minmatar
Crabbs
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Posted - 2006.12.13 15:07:00 -
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Im sorry james if you feel your cause is more worthy then others, for me helping is helping.
And if i can do that just by sending a game or buying a kid a book that he wanted, im not gonna feel shamed todo so.
Seeing that i rather start giving back to my community may it be helping a homeless or giving blood, rather then sending cash or clothes that "most" of the times get stopped and robbed by rebels and/or greedy politicans.
What im trying to say is every cause is a good cause but it's hard to give when you are homeless or bankrupt even if you live in the richest country in the world.
Ask yourself what you can do for youre community.
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Posted - 2006.12.13 15:11:00 -
[51]
Edited by: Atreides Horza on 13/12/2006 15:11:41
Originally by: Spix 'UK
Edited by: Spix ''UK on 13/12/2006 15:05:49
11 million you say ? ... well perhaps they can lower that them selfs.. if they stop bein like little rabbits.. they are never goin to amount to anything.. nor will they ever be of any use to this world.. its all about balance... & it shows.. that perhaps they are just not ment to be... you should stop worrying about some 3rd world country & perhaps look at helping things like Cancer or sumthing in the world that can help everyone... not some people who dont even have running water or care about anyone else..
I wonder if that little number in brackets to the right of the posting date is the actual post number or your IQ... 
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Posted - 2006.12.13 15:17:00 -
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Quote:
11 million you say ? ... well perhaps they can lower that them selfs.. if they stop bein like little rabbits.. they are never goin to amount to anything..
If they dont get your attitude , they will have already become a better human being than you will ever be
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Spix 'UK
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Posted - 2006.12.13 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kalahari Wayrest
It's difficult to say who I disagree with more...
James the self righteous **** who thinks the only worthwhile charity is his charity
or Spix'UK (I hope UK doesn't mean my country is responsible for this  ) who's blatantly racist and mind bogglingly ignorant...
James, I think I at least get what you're saying. But you can have both? And it's good that there's both. It's good that simpler things like giving happiness to kids stuck in hospitals isn't overlooked by charities. I think your heart is in the right place, but can we not just say, while not equally, they are both important causes and having one doesn't devalue another?
Spix...I can't understand where you're coming from at all. I can't even begin to point out what's wrong with you or your thinking. Just please, seek help. It's extremely ironic that you link 'not having running water' with 'not caring about anyone else' when it seems obvious that you do have running water and you don't care about anyone else.
Why the hell are both of you *****ing about charities for gods sake. There are better things to ***** about. Like you two 
Please dont even bring race into this... as people have said throwing 500million at this problem would not fix it... nothing will.. so am saying its a much better idea.. to send money to things like Cancer.. or things like "childs play " etc etc threw out the world then direct the money to other places were its not goin to make any impact at all that could effect anyone in the long run.. "big picture"
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Posted - 2006.12.13 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Victor Kruger on 13/12/2006 16:23:44
My funds for this year have already been invested in a Mahagony Heartwood computer mouse. The material was very hard to aquire and required the relocation of an entire Pigmy tribe to gain access to the trees. Also, a very rare leopard subspecies got extinct in the process.
I'll make sure to polish the mouse daily with a seal skin though, so the effort was worth it.
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Posted - 2006.12.13 16:55:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Kruger
Edited by: Victor Kruger on 13/12/2006 16:23:44
My funds for this year have already been invested in a Mahagony Heartwood computer mouse. The material was very hard to aquire and required the relocation of an entire Pigmy tribe to gain access to the trees. Also, a very rare leopard subspecies got extinct in the process.
I'll make sure to polish the mouse daily with a seal skin though, so the effort was worth it.
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Kastar
Chronodynamics
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Spix 'UK
Originally by: Kalahari Wayrest
It's difficult to say who I disagree with more...
James the self righteous **** who thinks the only worthwhile charity is his charity
or Spix'UK (I hope UK doesn't mean my country is responsible for this ) who's blatantly racist and mind bogglingly ignorant...
James, I think I at least get what you're saying. But you can have both? And it's good that there's both. It's good that simpler things like giving happiness to kids stuck in hospitals isn't overlooked by charities. I think your heart is in the right place, but can we not just say, while not equally, they are both important causes and having one doesn't devalue another?
Spix...I can't understand where you're coming from at all. I can't even begin to point out what's wrong with you or your thinking. Just please, seek help. It's extremely ironic that you link 'not having running water' with 'not caring about anyone else' when it seems obvious that you do have running water and you don't care about anyone else.
Why the hell are both of you *****ing about charities for gods sake. There are better things to ***** about. Like you two
Please dont even bring race into this... as people have said throwing 500million at this problem would not fix it... nothing will.. so am saying its a much better idea.. to send money to things like Cancer.. or things like "childs play " etc etc threw out the world then direct the money to other places were its not goin to make any impact at all that could effect anyone in the long run.. "big picture"
We need free choice of opinions Sir, we need all alternatives we can get. Don't abuse my comment about the 500 M. all problems have a solution. Please just relativate and put everything in it's contest.
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
...We support child's play partly because we're all gamers and this is gaming related...
I too was wondering what this thread was all about, so I read the entire thing. I very nearly quoted several posters who have issues with Child's Play as a specific cause. Some to agree wholeheartedly with, and others to disagree with.
Then I went back and remembered the post [partially] quoted above.
And that is it really. I can see the gaming connection.
Nicola and I have three little girls and I/we empathise with ANY child 's parent/s or guardian/s who have to watch their little ones suffer.
Just because that child was born into the West, doesn't make there plight any less important. Yes, there is without a shadow of a doubt, many more children who if there ever was a scale, would be higher up. Such as those without the absolute basics who despite being born healthy, will die purely based on where they were born.
But like I said, a child is a child. If the poster who objected to an xBox being donated to an US hospital [the US btw, has one of the worst records on child poverty per capita in the entire world] could give a piece of bread to a child that will be dead in one week anyway or to a child who would survive with that piece fo bread, what would he do? You break up the bread and give it to both. That's what you do.
Yes, charities are massively guilty of disproportionate prioritising - especially in the West, but like that dev said, this is simply a charity that is relevant to gamers, and I, for one applaud it. Nicola and I won't be donating because I/we have other causes we prefer to assist with our meagre income. But that is not to say that we turn up our noses at this particular charity.
Well done CCP, well done.
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:24:00 -
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Oh, and that Spix guy? Seriously mate, if you would care to go and do your research thoroughly about the part that the UK played in what Africa is today and then come back here and type what you did, I am certain that your tune would have changed.
It is not a crime to put across your views, but it is foolish and unwise to soapbox without the least modicum of background knowledge and information relevant to the topic upon which you are preaching.
The history of our Empire is quite frankly littered with some of the worst atrocities forced upon the world in our name. Do not compound our historical crimes by condemning those who we dispossessed and disenfranchised for our own greed for now being poor and in abject despair in current times.
I wonder quite what you would do should someone knock on your door right now, you open it and they hand you a malnourished African child who has less than ten minutes to live. Would you comfort the child or leave her in the corner to die alone?
I know you must have more compassion in your heart than your keyboard.
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:26:00 -
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I'm not posting here any more as this isn't what the thread was all about.
Well done to those who chose to donate, and well done to those who choose to donate to other causes.
Makes you feel a bit humble for a while doesn't it? Certainly stopped me from posting in the other forums about stuff that really isn't important, like if I can get into the game or not.
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Professional Troll
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:37:00 -
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Donating money toward the impoverished children in third world nations is certainly much more noble that donating money toward toys for sick children, but donating money ttoward toys for sick children will have a greater impact that donatin money toward the impoverished children of third world nations.
For every $50 donated toward impoverished children in third world nations, the impoverished children in third world nations will likely see less than $10 of it, and less than $1 will make a difference tomorrow.
For Every $50 donated toward toys for sick children, the sick children will likely see around $40 of it, and around $25 will make a difference twenty years from now.
Until the charities helping impoverished children in third world nations can actually get most of my money to where it's supposed to be going, I'm going to choose a charity that can.
Your toys suck!
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: Professional Troll
Donating money toward the impoverished children in third world nations is certainly much more noble that donating money toward toys for sick children, but donating money ttoward toys for sick children will have a greater impact that donatin money toward the impoverished children of third world nations.
For every $50 donated toward impoverished children in third world nations, the impoverished children in third world nations will likely see less than $10 of it, and less than $1 will make a difference tomorrow.
For Every $50 donated toward toys for sick children, the sick children will likely see around $40 of it, and around $25 will make a difference twenty years from now.
Until the charities helping impoverished children in third world nations can actually get most of my money to where it's supposed to be going, I'm going to choose a charity that can.
86% of statistics are made up on the spot
You just pulled those numbers out of your ass, didn't you?
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Posted - 2006.12.13 17:59:00 -
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Edited by: TheFirstInquisitor on 13/12/2006 17:59:04
Originally by: Spix 'UK
Edited by: Spix ''UK on 13/12/2006 14:37:09
Originally by: Trollin
Edited by: Trollin on 13/12/2006 00:43:09
Donation made.
feel free to donate meds to little african orphans on your own time James.
I dont agree with sending money to Afican orphans .. if there county cant help there own.. then its tuff really we should look after are own... & sure like the OP sending money for kids to play games while there layin on there death beds is a good idea.. as they prob dont have what ever other kids have.. the freedom to go outside & play with others etc so they should at least have some fun :) as for things like sending money to 3rd world places.. I totally disagree with it... why are they having more kids.. etc etc. when they have no food or running water, there bein stupid... why reproduce & spread AIDS etc. etc.. just wrong...they should learn to adapt & work it out for them selfs.. & if they cant perhaps.. its GODS way ( joke about the god lark.. but if ya belive in that ur choice ) of saying they should not bring any more into this world..
You need to look at your history.
Europe invaded Africa centuries ago, enslaving many in exchange for firearms, to tribal people. Europeans also took the resources and effectively treated the natives like filth, before dismantlying their empires over the last 2 world wars. I am studying the effect of AIDS in Africa myself, and if my lecturers information is accurate, there are areas in sub-sahara Africa where they beleive that having sex with an infant cures AIDS.
The problem is not that of ignorance, but that of lack of understanding of how it travels.
Thinking about it from someones perspective living in Africa, there are no pensions, so who will provide for you when you are older? Your offspring. Many will die and many will be needed to support you, so you have many children. Even we in industrialised countries were in the same position centuries ago, its called the demographic transition.
My aplogies if this is addressed earlier, but i felt quite angry by his statement, and didnt read on after this.
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:04:00 -
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Edited by: TheFirstInquisitor on 13/12/2006 18:04:13
After reading the rest of your post`s Spix, i am truely disgusted.
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sci0gon
Tech 2 Ammo Holdings Limited
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Voodoosuicide
do they hand out chucky dolls?
rofl
Originally by: Wrangler
I think there are two things when it comes to charities. First is that everyone who can should contribute to one or more, though not being involved doesn't make you a bad person. Second is to contribute to the charity you choose you feel strongly about. We support child's play partly because we're all gamers and this is gaming related. If you think another charity is better for you to support, then go support it! Send them money! And if this charity inspires you to go search for something else that you prefer, then we're still happy.
agreed, ever since i was young i was in and out of hospital for several years but you know what, it didnt bother me i had other things that needed more attention then myself so i learned to cope. ever since then my family and i have always donated to local charities to help those who are less fortunate. especially to the likes of "Mencap" and "cancer research" charities
for one thing, take a look around your room or at old toys / clothing you guys throw away
"your rubbish is another mans treasure"
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Ragewaar
Viziam
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Posted - 2006.12.13 18:30:00 -
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I never heard of childs play untill i saw that link today, but wow it certainly educated me! Brilliant idea whoever put it there!
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation
Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:08:00 -
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Please remember that discussing politics will get the thread locked.
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Agrias Hellion
Diligentia Sodalitas
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:18:00 -
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Edited by: Agrias Hellion on 13/12/2006 19:23:59
Just out of interest did CCP donate money to the charity?
To be perfectly honest I'm pretty sick of charities, there advertisements try to emotionally blackmail (good thing I am emotionally retarded)and when you don't donate you are judged on the spot as being a bad man, a person of no conscience or morality.
Especially annoying when my tax money is already handed out to pay for the elderly, the disabled, the sick, the psychopaths, the unemployed, the lazy etc etc.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.13 19:38:00 -
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Childs play is a worthy cause. So are a lot of other charities. I don't want to throw stones at _anyone_ wanting to donate this christmas.
If Childs Play is not to your taste, then find one that is. http://www.charitychoice.co.uk/ is a possible place to start.
Charities can _always_ use more money, so whatever you donate, be it a fiver on behalf of someone, or perhaps even a monthly subscription (most charities can reclaim tax on donations too) will make a difference to that charity.
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