Originally by: Extreme

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Originally by: spiralJunkie

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Originally by: Razor Jaxx

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While posting with a "public" figure was a bad move (i.e. the "spiralJunkie" persona, as an EvE-TV host, needs to remain unbiased), the ASCN reaction is turning into a witch hunt, and spiral is turning into a convenient goat.

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/me bleats

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You said on as host EVE TV that you didn't like CYVOK ("i don't like him" with a disgrunted face.)

You were bleating there too ?

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Originally by: Ztang Canary

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Originally by: Blacklight

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Who'd of guessed there are so many drama queens playing eve.

Great scandal on the forums this week it's been brilliant.

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You Bobbits are too caught up in defending what is clearly an act of spite, too see the real issues.
You have succeeded in taking a game past the game, and turning it into personal attacks, and ridicule.
I, for one, actually thought better of you. I had thought you at least had some shred of decency, and ability to separate a game from reality.
Im sad for Eve, and Im sad for CCP that cannot seem to do the right thing, and realise that Eve is not BoB.

These forums resemble to me nothing but a kindergarten sandbox, in which it seems certain entities think "cool" equates "evil", and measure their credibility and integrity by how low they can sink by hurting others.
You call yourself grown-ups....my god it does not reflect in your posts.

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Originally by: Mud Pandemonium

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Originally by: Toranya Faidutti

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Edited by: Toranya Faidutti on 13/12/2006 13:12:35

Originally by: Mud Pandemonium

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Originally by: Toranya Faidutti

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Originally by: Mud Pandemonium

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Well, you were a snake for wanting post that as an alt, a little girl for being afraid to post it as your main. You are however a man for admitting your mistake.

I salute you ManSnakeGirl.

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I'm sure you think this was clever, but the implication that cowardice is feminine is highly insulting. I'm more offended by your statement than I was the original SJ behavior. I don't suddenly grow male genitalia when I admit my mistakes, so keep your chauvinistic B.S. to yourself next time.

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Hardly clever, but hardly anything that would warrant such a response.
While I can understand you might not see that I was trying to bring some humour into this thread in my own little way, I cannot begin to fathom where you developed the idea that I intended to purposely offend a gender or species.

It was hardly chauvinistic and I meant everything I said in jest. I do apologize if you've gone through some experiences in your life that have left you unable to process even the lowest forms of humour. If you're offended by my statement I'll ask that you simply ignore it and get on with life.

I'll ask you to kindly spare me the cry of the righteous as I can safely assume you're no saint yourself. I request that you please step down from the high horse you've placed yourself on and get down with the rest of us in the dirt. Lighten up, don't take life so seriously, you'll never get out alive.

If however you stand by your statement and continue to believe I should "keep my chauvinistic B.S. to myself" I'll kindly ask you to keep your self-righteous holier-than-thou asinine attitude to yourself.

I await your eloquently written retort on why I'm wrong.

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There isn't enough to say to do so eloquently, sorry.

1) Just because you think something is funny doesn't make it so, nor does it make someone who points out that it wasn't funny "holier than thou".

2) If you weren't attempting to imply cowardice as a feminine trait you would have called him a little boy, not a little girl.

QED.

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Now why would I have called him a little boy to imply cowardice? Are you saying that little girls aren't equally capable of acts of cowardice? So, by your logic it would be okay if I implied that cowardice is a male trait, but not a feminine one? Excuse me while I stand in awe of your asinine double standard.

Either way you slice this you're simply using me and my statements as a ground to voice your self-righteous politically correct agenda.

Shall I call potholes asphalt-deficiencies now? Perhaps I have to refer to a manhole as a "personhole" now? Oh please.

If you weren't being so incredibly biased about this you'd also be defending snakes because of my implied notions of trickery and deceit. That would be the logical thing to do. No, you're simply using me as a sacrificial lamb at the moment. Attacking what I said to satisfy your own ego. Perhaps you have some inane inward self-hatred that requires you to fill the void with powertrips and ego boosts, who knows for certain.

Either way, I stand by my statement, if you don't like it, ignore it.

Now lets end this silly threadjack.

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Originally by: Wrangler

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That is an outright lie! We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want *both* anti-social *and* social players to grief each other!

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Originally by: spiralJunkie

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I'm flying home today. On Monday, if people still give a ****, i'll see if someone wants to host a vent/ts thing with me, then i can chat to people who think i deserve to be attacked by angry bees.

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Originally by: Mud Pandemonium

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You're implying that I knew spiralJunkie was male, please don't jump to assumptions.

End of threadjack, if you've still got further asinine arguments to throw at me, do it in game please.

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Originally by: spiralJunkie

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I posted a thread last night which linked to an image from a private forum. I shouldn't have done so, but I did.

I selected the wrong character. I wanted to do it with a different one, but forgot to select the right one. I'm sure we've all done it, but this doesn't excuse the action, just brings it more to the public eye.

I made a mistake by posting it, I simply didn't think it through, didn't think about the ramifications, or that I would be associated with one side or another. Whatever my feelings may be, spiralJunkie is no longer just my face, he's in the public domain, and I should have thought about that.

As for CYVOK himself, or ASCN, I'm sure enough that I've made it clear over the last six weeks that I bear no ill feelings towards them.

Again, apologies for not stopping and thinking.

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Originally by: Extreme

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Edited by: Extreme on 13/12/2006 13:38:11

Originally by: spiralJunkie

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I'm flying home today. On Monday, if people still give a ****, i'll see if someone wants to host a vent/ts thing with me, then i can chat to people who think i deserve to be attacked by angry bees.

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I worked for TV Workshop / Veronica Television Netherlands as an editor. I've seen enough arrogant assheads thinking "they are the man" because they were hosts on television.
As an advise try not to become arrogant towards the public and get your feet back on the ground.

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Originally by: Wrangler

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That is an outright lie! We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want *both* anti-social *and* social players to grief each other!

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Originally by: Ztrain

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Not a problem you just made it quite obvious that many of us suspected. Things how the sovernty rules got "fixed" right as BoB secured a space to make it harder to take it back. CCP and it's employee's have no impartiality. I guess that's just another problem with a game developed in Iceland. Their coders by looking at the game suck and it would seem their busness practices and fair play do as well. Perhaps they need more education over there /shrug. Just because you did it with the wrong character does not forgive you back door practices. I do think it's funny though that the biggest ship in the game was not killed by skill full tactics or cunning game play. The first of the biggest ships in the game worth a net value of $16,000 US on ebay was killed by buggy code and a login que. A login que that now that the ship is gone the dev's are misteriously removing from the game..........

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Originally by: Wrangler

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That is an outright lie! We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want *both* anti-social *and* social players to grief each other!

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Originally by: Patch86

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I'm dissapointed with Spiral- it was spiteful thing to do, and he shouldn't have done it.

What I really don't care about, though, is him using his EveTV account for it, though. Ultimately, RL TV presenters are not unbiased, they arn't pillars of neutrality and even handedness; they're opinionated, involved advocates of whatever the hell they want to be. Spiral has made an ass of himself doing something so mean, but I don't think it's a scandal that an "EveTV presenter" is involved with an alliance. Thats just life.

I hope this doesn't stop him being involved with EveTV in the future, as he is a good presenter and makes EveTV enjoyable to watch. But he still*****ed up.

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Originally by: Stamm

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Hopefully now the witch hunt can end. I don't fancy another 6 page thread full of "OMG I feel way more violated by SpiralJunkie than you".

Also, since it entered the public domain, anybody got the link? Hate not knowing what everybody else does.

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Originally by: Ztrain

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The first of the biggest ships in the game worth a net value of $16,000 US on ebay was killed by buggy code and a login que. A login que that now that the ship is gone the dev's are misteriously removing from the game..........

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Originally by: Toranya Faidutti

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Uh, no. spiralJunkie is male. If spiralJunkie was female, then it would have made sense to use little girl / woman instead of little boy/male. You changed his gender to make the cowardice point.

I'm truly amazed that you are not making this connection, and it is not inappropriate to point out when someone says something insensitive, be it a racial slur, homophobic nonsense, or in this case gender insensitivity.

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Originally by: Kuolematon

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Yet it still dosen't remove fact that as a game EVE promotes
grief play and smacktalk.

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Originally by: SamuraiJack

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/signed.

I feel for the new players who are starting out anew.

Pirates used to be honerable. Go into low sec at your own risk. That was acceptable.

Now its Suicide gankers, probed out and griefed in missions. Macro miners, spammers, expoiters.

Welcome to the new player experience.

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Originally by: Ztang Canary

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Originally by: Blacklight

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Who'd of guessed there are so many drama queens playing eve.

Great scandal on the forums this week it's been brilliant.

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You Bobbits are too caught up in defending what is clearly an act of spite, too see the real issues.
You have succeeded in taking a game past the game, and turning it into personal attacks, and ridicule.
I, for one, actually thought better of you. I had thought you at least had some shred of decency, and ability to separate a game from reality.
Im sad for Eve, and Im sad for CCP that cannot seem to do the right thing, and realise that Eve is not BoB.

These forums resemble to me nothing but a kindergarten sandbox, in which it seems certain entities think "cool" equates "evil", and measure their credibility and integrity by how low they can sink by hurting others.
You call yourself grown-ups....my god it does not reflect in your posts.

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Originally by: Acama Asante

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It's all about power and dominance, which go together with culture. As long as people recognise and check their own behaviour, it isn't the end of the world. If they don't... *gestures around at forums*

Having said that, you dudes are shooting neutrals in Fountain... along with everyone else

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Originally by: spiralJunkie

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Originally by: Razor Jaxx

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While posting with a "public" figure was a bad move (i.e. the "spiralJunkie" persona, as an EvE-TV host, needs to remain unbiased), the ASCN reaction is turning into a witch hunt, and spiral is turning into a convenient goat.

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/me bleats

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