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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3170
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Posted - 2015.09.04 23:04:43 -
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See, we told you that you could do it.
Also you're currently isk efficient. |
Don Purple
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
1310
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Posted - 2015.09.05 12:18:18 -
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Tisiphone Dira wrote:Is there a reason that you always want the lights turned off when we snuggles? It's more fun when its a suprise!
I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
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Bellatrix Invicta
New Order Logistics CODE.
512
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Posted - 2015.09.05 18:01:22 -
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Altony Compagno wrote:My feelings of inadequacy were assuaged by a couple kills later today. I grabbed a pod that was in criminal status, and dueled a condor that was watching me on the pod and took it too.
At the suggestion of a CODE rep I also tried a bit of ice theft today for quick and easy cash. If I had set myself up better I think I could have taken a Hulk in the ice anomaly. As it was, I was stealing in a Venture and had 10 minutes of suspect left when he aggressed me for peeking in a container, giving me the engagement timer. I didn't have a ship there and staged to go back and get him with it. IF I had a decent ship, and IF I would have timed it better for the engagement timer to overlap my suspect timer by a bit, I could have flown back in and fought him without worrying about the 35 other drones in the belt, right?
Lessons learned.
I giggled like a schoolgirl when you convo'd me and told me about that adventure. You've got what it takes.
If you think you've won, think again.
The CODE always wins.
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Morgan Agrivar
Yamaguchi Holding LLC
61
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Posted - 2015.09.05 19:09:07 -
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Altony Compagno wrote:My feelings of inadequacy were assuaged by a couple kills later today. I grabbed a pod that was in criminal status, and dueled a condor that was watching me on the pod and took it too.
At the suggestion of a CODE rep I also tried a bit of ice theft today for quick and easy cash. If I had set myself up better I think I could have taken a Hulk in the ice anomaly. As it was, I was stealing in a Venture and had 10 minutes of suspect left when he aggressed me for peeking in a container, giving me the engagement timer. I didn't have a ship there and staged to go back and get him with it. IF I had a decent ship, and IF I would have timed it better for the engagement timer to overlap my suspect timer by a bit, I could have flown back in and fought him without worrying about the 35 other drones in the belt, right?
Lessons learned.
Don't get discouraged. Like she said above, you got what it takes to succeed in this game because you understand the basic mechanics of it. You understand that this game is PvP with mining and missions thrown in. Seriously, ask CODE if you can go fly in a few systems with them and see what it is like. The exhiliration of taking down a multibillion freighter was nothing like I could imagine and enjoyed the whole day doing it.
Now I have horrible PvP skills, which is why I don't gank or represent CODE, even though I have over 34m sp and have great gunnery skills. Speaking of CODE, I need to get a mining permit for my 3 week newbro that I am helping. Don't want him to get ganked in his Venture trying to get some isk.
I think you will do just fine in this game.
"Out of all the people who have tried to kill me, you are my favorite."
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Morgan Agrivar
Yamaguchi Holding LLC
61
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Posted - 2015.09.05 19:12:20 -
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Cidanel Afuran wrote:Morgan Agrivar wrote: The nos will help when fighting a frigate or destroyer but might not really help against a cruiser or higher since their capacitor is a lot bigger and can handle a small nos. I would go with a rocket launcher in the 4th slot if you are up close or a light missile launcher if you are a kiter. 75 dps isnt much and most cruiser tanks can easily handle that. It would depend on his fit if he was ASB fit, or had to inject cap to keep everything going.
If the drones took him out, you need to learn how to switch and lock drones and shoot them. If he has no drones to take the Rifter out, then it is a matter of who runs out of support first. Your Rifter ammo or his tank.
I was mainly thinking its better to specialize in gunnery and skip missile skills for now. IMO that's a quicker way to be effective aas a new player. Long term cross train missiles, but I generally tell people to pick one weapons system and get good with it before going to the next
I agree. But it would take about a week or two to get basically competent in rockets and light missiles. I still really haven't trained missiles yet but I will be here in about 2.5 weeks. It would be just a bit more dps and be more effective than a NOS that won't have any effect on a cruiser capacitor.
Sorry if I wasn't any clearer.
"Out of all the people who have tried to kill me, you are my favorite."
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Altony Compagno
Republic University Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2015.09.05 19:15:21 -
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Wouldnt it help MY cap issues though? Even if it didnt drain their cap to the point of affecting them, could it keep my web/scram/afterburner/dc/armor repper going a few seconds more? |
Morgan Agrivar
Yamaguchi Holding LLC
61
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Posted - 2015.09.05 19:58:43 -
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Altony Compagno wrote:Wouldnt it help MY cap issues though? Even if it didnt drain their cap to the point of affecting them, could it keep my web/scram/afterburner/dc/armor repper going a few seconds more?
If I remember correctly, a NOS negates a part of their capacitor and has no effect on yours. A vampire takes part of their capacitor and gives it to you, up to a limit. If you are going to put something there that has to deal with capacitor, go for a vampire. But in terms of affecting their cap, the NOS affects their capacitor more than a vampire does.
"Out of all the people who have tried to kill me, you are my favorite."
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3174
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Posted - 2015.09.05 21:21:47 -
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You're using terminology wrong. Nos is short for Nosferatu, meaning vampire. What you're actually meaning to say is Neut, short for Neutralizer. Subsequently it's as confusing as hell.
Nosferatus (AKA Energy Vampires or Nos ) reduce the target's capacitor level by a certain amount and give that same amount to you, however they don't work if the targets capacitor level is lower than your own (in percent).
Neutralizers (AKA Energy Destabilizes or Neuts ) remove a much larger amount of the target's capacitor and always work, however they don't give you anything back. |
Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1406
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Posted - 2015.09.06 04:21:26 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:You're using terminology wrong. Nos is short for Nosferatu, meaning vampire. What you're actually meaning to say is Neut, short for Neutralizer. Subsequently it's as confusing as hell.
Nosferatus (AKA Energy Vampires or Nos ) reduce the target's capacitor level by a certain amount and give that same amount to you, however they don't work if the targets capacitor level is lower than your own (in percent).
Neutralizers (AKA Energy Destabilizes or Neuts ) remove a much larger amount of the target's capacitor and always work, however they don't give you anything back.
Flying a frigate fighting something bigger than you (subsequently with a more powerful capacitor) a nos is generally preferable because it allows you to exploit their superior capacitor capabilities to power your own modules. The longer you can keep your rep running and afterburner burning the better.
Just a small clarification......vampires don't go on percentages anymore...if your capacitor pool is smaller than the targets (in actual points) the vamp sucks cap from target...if not, has no effect. However, vamps use no capacitor when in use.
Where as neuts always burn enemy cap.....but also take cap to run, as well.
Also, any skill that increases powergrid, cap, armor/hull/shield capacity, and cpu is useful. Tons of skill guides for PVP newbro's out there, check em out.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1406
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Posted - 2015.09.06 04:24:42 -
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Morgan Agrivar wrote:LOL. You nailed Johan Force. This guy would sit in rookie systems and let them shoot at him. Then he would reship and blow them up. Too bad you didn't get the pod.
+1 to you, sir.
Nice. I know that guy........he's a punk, only gets in fights with newbro's cuz they the only one's he can kill.
Go kill him some more.
Bring friends.
I'm sure Vimsy would love to give him some hot Vindy loving..:)
Or just gank his bait boats......:)
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg.
Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
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Morgan Agrivar
Yamaguchi Holding LLC
62
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Posted - 2015.09.06 07:38:07 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:You're using terminology wrong. Nos is short for Nosferatu, meaning vampire. What you're actually meaning to say is Neut, short for Neutralizer. Subsequently it's as confusing as hell.
Nosferatus (AKA Energy Vampires or Nos ) reduce the target's capacitor level by a certain amount and give that same amount to you, however they don't work if the targets capacitor level is lower than your own (in percent).
Neutralizers (AKA Energy Destabilizes or Neuts ) remove a much larger amount of the target's capacitor and always work, however they don't give you anything back.
Flying a frigate fighting something bigger than you (subsequently with a more powerful capacitor) a nos is generally preferable because it allows you to exploit their superior capacitor capabilities to power your own modules. The longer you can keep your rep running and afterburner burning the better.
Thanks for pointing that out, Vimsy. Like I said, I am horrible at pvp. Never really used either one. Others in my old corp loved the vampires though.
"Out of all the people who have tried to kill me, you are my favorite."
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Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
3175
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Posted - 2015.09.06 14:40:55 -
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Mike Adoulin wrote:I'm sure Vimsy would love to give him some hot Vindy loving..:) I actually just finished training large hybrid turrets! |
Demerius Xenocratus
Rapid Withdrawal
631
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Posted - 2015.09.08 06:41:28 -
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Morgan Agrivar wrote:Cidanel Afuran wrote:+1 for the snowball launcher. I'd drop it and add a nos though. This was my general setup when I first started https://zkillboard.com/kill/40773127/ And by far cap skills/engineering skills are incredibly important. It's not a waste of time by any means to get those up quickly. Those are the general support skills that will translate to a benefit to any ship you fly. By far the best advice I can give is to roam around with a few more people. Going at it solo is an uphill battle when you are just starting out. If we have a WH open near your system I can give you a shout in game and we can kill people. I'm not the best PvP-er myself by any means, but I've finally ground enough ISK/SPs with this account that I want to turn him more PvP. The nos will help when fighting a frigate or destroyer but might not really help against a cruiser or higher since their capacitor is a lot bigger and can handle a small nos. I would go with a rocket launcher in the 4th slot if you are up close or a light missile launcher if you are a kiter. 75 dps isnt much and most cruiser tanks can easily handle that. It would depend on his fit if he was ASB fit, or had to inject cap to keep everything going. If the drones took him out, you need to learn how to switch and lock drones and shoot them. If he has no drones to take the Rifter out, then it is a matter of who runs out of support first. Your Rifter ammo or his tank.
Get out of the Minmatar line if you want to engage in this playstyle. Go Gallente. Minmatar frigates don't get enough DPS to break big targets and they're more about speed than tank. Learn the way of the dual-rep incursus, round out your frigate support skills, armor and blasters, then work on drones, assault frigates and eventually cruisers.
You want to be able to use the incursus and the Fed Navy Comet, then the Ishkur and Enyo, a quick detour into destroyers for the gankalyst, and work on skilling for a Vexor; a dual rep vexor with good drone and gun skills is a monster for a T1 cruiser and will segue right into Navy Vexors and Ishtars, which are also devastatingly effective for solo and small gang work.
When it comes to baiting and killing big stupid things in highsec, you want something small enough to get under their guns, with enough tank to absorb drone damage while you eliminate the pests and enough dps to burn through your target's tank.
Active repped gallente ships with blasters and drones, are your weapon of choice.
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Altony Compagno
Republic University Minmatar Republic
43
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Posted - 2015.09.08 21:02:06 -
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^Thanks for the perspective^
I enjoy my Rifter so far and have been using it primarily as I work through the pvp jitters, skill up my guns and support skills, and learn the controls a bit.
I took a few days off but I've gathered a handful of kills so far and am eager for more. None of them are terribly exciting.
A gank on a venture with a meta catalyst fit (I am still working toward thermodynamics and my gunnery skills weren't enough to let me get anything bigger) was a fun side-step with a CODE agent (thank you sir).
Suspect baited a frigate in a belt. That was very fulfilling if not terribly exciting. It was over quick, and they didn't even respond to my taunts.
A few duels. Maybe 3-4. I think there is only one that accepted that had a logically fit ship, but I applauded them all for either challenging or accepting mine.
I should be ok with an incursus and will try to fit one out tonight to see how I like it. I think I'd like a few more kills under my belt before I try rolling with experienced vets. I still get a little anxious and click happy and I want to cool that down a bit before I try anything harder that crap-fit fellow rookies. I was so excited that the gank went well that I didn't get his pod fast enough, those kinds of mistakes I'd rather not do in front of too many.
Thanks again to those of you that have taken time to send messages with fits, tips, and advice. It has been greatly appreciated and very empowering.
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