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Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 24983	Posted - 2015.09.02 21:12:52 - [1] - Quote Cross-posting is bad I know. I came across this in the newbie forums, can anybody oblige this guy? Altony Compagno wrote: Ok, so I started off pretty gung-ho but I am starting to falter a bit and wondering what I am missing. Hoping you fine folks here will help me out as much as you did the first go round. I am having a hard time finding fights. How should I go about doing that as a low-skilled character? My gut is telling me to either join a corp or join FW, but I am not certain that is right. What I would love is a "Rookie Help" chat for those looking for the darker side of Eve Online. Coaching on suspect baiting, can flipping, ganking, espionage, awoxing, and all of these other cool things I read about and only have a marginal understanding of mechanically. I don't enjoy missioning or mining really. I think I would really like high sec warfare, but how do I go about this early on? I have half a mind to form my own corp, sell a plex for cash, and start warring on corps solo. I would surely lose a lot of ships, but it would be exciting! The only thing stopping me so far is the cash it would take (is it 50m to war?) with no guarantee that people would fight me. I suppose I could always just join other wars and hope for the best, but it seems like the big war corps are flying ships that would smoke my 75dps Rifter in a heartbeat. I need a career agent for the darkside. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Bellatrix Invicta New Order Logistics CODE. 471	Posted - 2015.09.02 21:32:10 - [2] - Quote Working on getting in touch with him in-game. Can get him into teaching chat channels at any rate. If you think you've won, think again. The CODE always wins.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3161	Posted - 2015.09.02 21:44:25 - [3] - Quote I also mailed him, so he has decent options if he wants to go with either the Mercenary route or the Ganking route.
Cidanel Afuran Chickenhawk. 149	Posted - 2015.09.02 21:44:37 - [4] - Quote I saw that post too. Looking through his posting history, I found this one also https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=442273 Altony Compagno wrote: How does reinforcement work, exactly? I saw a Mobile Depot floating in a belt where the career guy sent me to mine, and it had Russian writing so I decided to try to kill it. I went back to the space station, put guns on instead of miners, and went out to try my luck. It took FOREVER. And then it didn't explode. I was close to killing the shields when it went invulnerable. A guy in local said that it was in reinforcement and I would have to wait until the timer ran out. Will anyone else be able to kill it between now and then? What happens when it comes out of reinforced? Will it be open for anyone to kill it then, or just me, and how long does it stay vulnerable? Thanks ahead of time. I am a handful of days into my trial and am having a good time, even though my first attempt at space piracy was a bust! So he apparently skipped the career agents to try and blow people up sooner. I'm almost never in HS or I would help, but looks like he will fit in fine around here.
Moon Moon Burdy Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 42	Posted - 2015.09.02 23:29:55 - [5] - Quote There really needs to be a career agent for emergent play. But, would that make it non-emergent if there was? Things that went boom Mostly Clueless Newbro, Education Appreciated.
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 11580	Posted - 2015.09.03 01:03:30 - [6] - Quote Moon Moon Burdy wrote: There really needs to be a career agent for emergent play. But, would that make it non-emergent if there was? Someone's been reading Joseph Heller Better the Devil you know. =]\|[=
Don Purple KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1300	Posted - 2015.09.03 06:34:37 - [7] - Quote I am a career agent for the dark side. I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
Saeger1737 Bite the pillow 1124	Posted - 2015.09.03 07:15:02 - [8] - Quote Don Purple wrote: I am a career agent for the dark side. If that side is a snuggle bunny you'd qualify
Don Purple KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1302	Posted - 2015.09.03 07:55:09 - [9] - Quote Saeger1737 wrote: Don Purple wrote: I am a career agent for the dark side. If that side is a snuggle bunny you'd qualify :D dark snuggles! I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
Tisiphone Dira New Order Logistics CODE. 279	Posted - 2015.09.03 10:53:03 - [10] - Quote Is there a reason that you always want the lights turned off when we snuggles?

Nat Silverguard Aideron Robotics 196	Posted - 2015.09.03 12:29:51 - [11] - Quote Don Purple wrote: I am a career agent for the dark side. while i'm for the dork side. yeah, i'll let myself out. Just Add Water
Lan Wang V I R I I Ineluctable. 1429	Posted - 2015.09.03 13:10:11 - [12] - Quote everyone knows Curse is the "real" darkside EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding \| Digital Design
Avvy Republic University Minmatar Republic 154	Posted - 2015.09.03 16:15:10 - [13] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: everyone knows Curse is the "real" darkside I thought it was all unicorns and rose petals.
Bronson Hughes The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration 2390	Posted - 2015.09.03 16:27:08 - [14] - Quote Tisiphone Dira wrote: Is there a reason that you always want the lights turned off when we snuggles? ... Dat neck.... Relatively Notorious By Association My Many Misadventures A brief history of C&P Thunderdome
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 24993	Posted - 2015.09.03 16:39:56 - [15] - Quote Bronson Hughes wrote: Tisiphone Dira wrote: Is there a reason that you always want the lights turned off when we snuggles? ... Dat neck.... Every time I see it I expect it move. Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.
Saeger1737 Bite the pillow 1126	Posted - 2015.09.03 17:27:23 - [16] - Quote Don Purple wrote: Saeger1737 wrote: Don Purple wrote: I am a career agent for the dark side. If that side is a snuggle bunny you'd qualify :D dark snuggles! This sir has been deemed "Darth Snuggle Bun Bun Purple the 1st" for posterity reasons.
Altony Compagno Republic University Minmatar Republic 30	Posted - 2015.09.03 17:52:29 - [17] - Quote I upgraded my account, so here I am. Thanks Jonah for the cross-post and thanks to those of you that have extended offers to help show me the underbelly of the Eve universe. I look forward to exploding dangerously in the name of education.
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1403	Posted - 2015.09.03 22:17:01 - [18] - Quote Welcome to the big leagues, kid. Now go out there and make the carebears cry . Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Don Purple KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1310	Posted - 2015.09.03 22:18:20 - [19] - Quote Saeger1737 wrote: Don Purple wrote: Saeger1737 wrote: Don Purple wrote: I am a career agent for the dark side. If that side is a snuggle bunny you'd qualify :D dark snuggles! This sir has been deemed "Darth Snuggle Bun Bun Purple the 1st" for posterity reasons. Love it... I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
Jonah Gravenstein Machiavellian Space Bastards 24996	Posted - 2015.09.03 22:50:59 - [20] - Quote Don Purple wrote: Saeger1737 wrote: Don Purple wrote: Saeger1737 wrote: Don Purple wrote: I am a career agent for the dark side. If that side is a snuggle bunny you'd qualify :D dark snuggles! This sir has been deemed "Darth Snuggle Bun Bun Purple the 1st" for posterity reasons. Love it... I do hope that it's this kind of Bun Bun Civilized behaviour is knowing that violence is barbaric, but paying other people to do it is business. Nil mortifi sine lucre.

Moon Moon Burdy Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 49	Posted - 2015.09.03 23:01:50 - [21] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: I do hope that it's this kind of Bun Bun Is there any other kind? Sluggy Freelance 4 LYF!! Things that went boom Mostly Clueless Newbro, Education Appreciated.
Altony Compagno Republic University Minmatar Republic 34	Posted - 2015.09.04 04:41:51 - [22] - Quote It was a quick night, but not a night without a little fun. https://zkillboard.com/character/95817841/ I think I am going to like it here. Can't wait to learn wtf I am doing with a little guidance.
Morgan Agrivar Yamaguchi Holding LLC Dread Pirate Syndicate 58	Posted - 2015.09.04 07:28:08 - [23] - Quote LOL. You nailed Johan Force. This guy would sit in rookie systems and let them shoot at him. Then he would reship and blow them up. Too bad you didn't get the pod. +1 to you, sir. "Out of all the people who have tried to kill me, you are my favorite."
Altony Compagno Republic University Minmatar Republic 37	Posted - 2015.09.04 13:16:41 - [24] - Quote It wasn't from lack of trying. I almost had a lock when he warped off. What is funny is that he did come back in a Legion to try to kill me but I was long gone bouncing between safe spots.
Altony Compagno Republic University Minmatar Republic 37	Posted - 2015.09.04 16:54:37 - [25] - Quote Morgan Agrivar wrote: LOL. You nailed Johan Force. This guy would sit in rookie systems and let them shoot at him. Then he would reship and blow them up. Too bad you didn't get the pod. +1 to you, sir. He got me back. -1 to me, ma'am. I saw him undock in a Moa and head to an anomaly site so I went after him, took from a wreck to give him cause, and then tried to orbit tight and see what would happen. Two things happened. * I was doing ok but noticed his shield rep was holding up too well against my pathetic 75dps. My cap ran dry while running my web/scram and afterburner. I have neglected those skills trying to increase dps but I will be going back to those. Ok, well three things happened. He blew me to smithereens once my capacitor died and armor repairer quit working. Any comments or suggestions? A rifter vs a dual-rep Moa (he said), is there a chance in the hands of a newb? P.S. - no laughing at the festival launcher/snowball in the high slot. I read a funny story on minerbumping, alright? Didnt really work out for me.
Cidanel Afuran Chickenhawk. 167	Posted - 2015.09.04 17:27:40 - [26] - Quote +1 for the snowball launcher. I'd drop it and add a nos though. This was my general setup when I first started https://zkillboard.com/kill/40773127/ And by far cap skills/engineering skills are incredibly important. It's not a waste of time by any means to get those up quickly. Those are the general support skills that will translate to a benefit to any ship you fly.
Morgan Agrivar Yamaguchi Holding LLC 61	Posted - 2015.09.04 21:22:11 - [27] - Quote Cidanel Afuran wrote: +1 for the snowball launcher. I'd drop it and add a nos though. This was my general setup when I first started https://zkillboard.com/kill/40773127/ And by far cap skills/engineering skills are incredibly important. It's not a waste of time by any means to get those up quickly. Those are the general support skills that will translate to a benefit to any ship you fly. By far the best advice I can give is to roam around with a few more people. Going at it solo is an uphill battle when you are just starting out. If we have a WH open near your system I can give you a shout in game and we can kill people. I'm not the best PvP-er myself by any means, but I've finally ground enough ISK/SPs with this account that I want to turn him more PvP. The nos will help when fighting a frigate or destroyer but might not really help against a cruiser or higher since their capacitor is a lot bigger and can handle a small nos. I would go with a rocket launcher in the 4th slot if you are up close or a light missile launcher if you are a kiter. 75 dps isnt much and most cruiser tanks can easily handle that. It would depend on his fit if he was ASB fit, or had to inject cap to keep everything going. If the drones took him out, you need to learn how to switch and lock drones and shoot them. If he has no drones to take the Rifter out, then it is a matter of who runs out of support first. Your Rifter ammo or his tank. "Out of all the people who have tried to kill me, you are my favorite."
Morgan Agrivar Yamaguchi Holding LLC 61	Posted - 2015.09.04 21:24:33 - [28] - Quote Altony Compagno wrote: Morgan Agrivar wrote: LOL. You nailed Johan Force. This guy would sit in rookie systems and let them shoot at him. Then he would reship and blow them up. Too bad you didn't get the pod. +1 to you, sir. He got me back. -1 to me, ma'am. I saw him undock in a Moa and head to an anomaly site so I went after him, took from a wreck to give him cause, and then tried to orbit tight and see what would happen. Two things happened. * I was doing ok but noticed his shield rep was holding up too well against my pathetic 75dps. My cap ran dry while running my web/scram and afterburner. I have neglected those skills trying to increase dps but I will be going back to those. Ok, well three things happened. He blew me to smithereens once my capacitor died and armor repairer quit working. Any comments or suggestions? A rifter vs a dual-rep Moa (he said), is there a chance in the hands of a newb? Scratch that, he said it was no dual-repped. He was referring to another ship. P.S. - no laughing at the festival launcher/snowball in the high slot. I read a funny story on minerbumping, alright? Didnt really work out for me. No, you won. He enjoys baiting newbros, getting them to think they have the advantage and then come back in something blappy and humiliates the newbro. I think he gets off on it honestly. Dude creeped me out so I took him off of my contact list. "Out of all the people who have tried to kill me, you are my favorite."
Altony Compagno Republic University Minmatar Republic 37	Posted - 2015.09.04 21:32:06 - [29] - Quote My feelings of inadequacy were assuaged by a couple kills later today. I grabbed a pod that was in criminal status, and dueled a condor that was watching me on the pod and took it too. At the suggestion of a CODE rep I also tried a bit of ice theft today for quick and easy cash. If I had set myself up better I think I could have taken a Hulk in the ice anomaly. As it was, I was stealing in a Venture and had 10 minutes of suspect left when he aggressed me for peeking in a container, giving me the engagement timer. I didn't have a ship there and staged to go back and get him with it. IF I had a decent ship, and IF I would have timed it better for the engagement timer to overlap my suspect timer by a bit, I could have flown back in and fought him without worrying about the 35 other drones in the belt, right? Lessons learned.
Cidanel Afuran Chickenhawk. 168	Posted - 2015.09.04 21:59:46 - [30] - Quote Morgan Agrivar wrote: The nos will help when fighting a frigate or destroyer but might not really help against a cruiser or higher since their capacitor is a lot bigger and can handle a small nos. I would go with a rocket launcher in the 4th slot if you are up close or a light missile launcher if you are a kiter. 75 dps isnt much and most cruiser tanks can easily handle that. It would depend on his fit if he was ASB fit, or had to inject cap to keep everything going. If the drones took him out, you need to learn how to switch and lock drones and shoot them. If he has no drones to take the Rifter out, then it is a matter of who runs out of support first. Your Rifter ammo or his tank. I was mainly thinking its better to specialize in gunnery and skip missile skills for now. IMO that's a quicker way to be effective aas a new player. Long term cross train missiles, but I generally tell people to pick one weapons system and get good with it before going to the next

Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3170	Posted - 2015.09.04 23:04:43 - [31] - Quote See, we told you that you could do it. Also you're currently isk efficient.
Don Purple KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation 1310	Posted - 2015.09.05 12:18:18 - [32] - Quote Tisiphone Dira wrote: Is there a reason that you always want the lights turned off when we snuggles? It's more fun when its a suprise! I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
Bellatrix Invicta New Order Logistics CODE. 512	Posted - 2015.09.05 18:01:22 - [33] - Quote Altony Compagno wrote: My feelings of inadequacy were assuaged by a couple kills later today. I grabbed a pod that was in criminal status, and dueled a condor that was watching me on the pod and took it too. At the suggestion of a CODE rep I also tried a bit of ice theft today for quick and easy cash. If I had set myself up better I think I could have taken a Hulk in the ice anomaly. As it was, I was stealing in a Venture and had 10 minutes of suspect left when he aggressed me for peeking in a container, giving me the engagement timer. I didn't have a ship there and staged to go back and get him with it. IF I had a decent ship, and IF I would have timed it better for the engagement timer to overlap my suspect timer by a bit, I could have flown back in and fought him without worrying about the 35 other drones in the belt, right? Lessons learned. I giggled like a schoolgirl when you convo'd me and told me about that adventure. You've got what it takes. If you think you've won, think again. The CODE always wins.
Morgan Agrivar Yamaguchi Holding LLC 61	Posted - 2015.09.05 19:09:07 - [34] - Quote Altony Compagno wrote: My feelings of inadequacy were assuaged by a couple kills later today. I grabbed a pod that was in criminal status, and dueled a condor that was watching me on the pod and took it too. At the suggestion of a CODE rep I also tried a bit of ice theft today for quick and easy cash. If I had set myself up better I think I could have taken a Hulk in the ice anomaly. As it was, I was stealing in a Venture and had 10 minutes of suspect left when he aggressed me for peeking in a container, giving me the engagement timer. I didn't have a ship there and staged to go back and get him with it. IF I had a decent ship, and IF I would have timed it better for the engagement timer to overlap my suspect timer by a bit, I could have flown back in and fought him without worrying about the 35 other drones in the belt, right? Lessons learned. Don't get discouraged. Like she said above, you got what it takes to succeed in this game because you understand the basic mechanics of it. You understand that this game is PvP with mining and missions thrown in. Seriously, ask CODE if you can go fly in a few systems with them and see what it is like. The exhiliration of taking down a multibillion freighter was nothing like I could imagine and enjoyed the whole day doing it. Now I have horrible PvP skills, which is why I don't gank or represent CODE, even though I have over 34m sp and have great gunnery skills. Speaking of CODE, I need to get a mining permit for my 3 week newbro that I am helping. Don't want him to get ganked in his Venture trying to get some isk. I think you will do just fine in this game. "Out of all the people who have tried to kill me, you are my favorite."
Morgan Agrivar Yamaguchi Holding LLC 61	Posted - 2015.09.05 19:12:20 - [35] - Quote Cidanel Afuran wrote: Morgan Agrivar wrote: The nos will help when fighting a frigate or destroyer but might not really help against a cruiser or higher since their capacitor is a lot bigger and can handle a small nos. I would go with a rocket launcher in the 4th slot if you are up close or a light missile launcher if you are a kiter. 75 dps isnt much and most cruiser tanks can easily handle that. It would depend on his fit if he was ASB fit, or had to inject cap to keep everything going. If the drones took him out, you need to learn how to switch and lock drones and shoot them. If he has no drones to take the Rifter out, then it is a matter of who runs out of support first. Your Rifter ammo or his tank. I was mainly thinking its better to specialize in gunnery and skip missile skills for now. IMO that's a quicker way to be effective aas a new player. Long term cross train missiles, but I generally tell people to pick one weapons system and get good with it before going to the next I agree. But it would take about a week or two to get basically competent in rockets and light missiles. I still really haven't trained missiles yet but I will be here in about 2.5 weeks. It would be just a bit more dps and be more effective than a NOS that won't have any effect on a cruiser capacitor. Sorry if I wasn't any clearer. "Out of all the people who have tried to kill me, you are my favorite."
Altony Compagno Republic University Minmatar Republic 41	Posted - 2015.09.05 19:15:21 - [36] - Quote Wouldnt it help MY cap issues though? Even if it didnt drain their cap to the point of affecting them, could it keep my web/scram/afterburner/dc/armor repper going a few seconds more?
Morgan Agrivar Yamaguchi Holding LLC 61	Posted - 2015.09.05 19:58:43 - [37] - Quote Altony Compagno wrote: Wouldnt it help MY cap issues though? Even if it didnt drain their cap to the point of affecting them, could it keep my web/scram/afterburner/dc/armor repper going a few seconds more? If I remember correctly, a NOS negates a part of their capacitor and has no effect on yours. A vampire takes part of their capacitor and gives it to you, up to a limit. If you are going to put something there that has to deal with capacitor, go for a vampire. But in terms of affecting their cap, the NOS affects their capacitor more than a vampire does. "Out of all the people who have tried to kill me, you are my favorite."
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3174	Posted - 2015.09.05 21:21:47 - [38] - Quote You're using terminology wrong. Nos is short for Nosferatu, meaning vampire. What you're actually meaning to say is Neut, short for Neutralizer. Subsequently it's as confusing as hell. Nosferatus (AKA Energy Vampires or Nos ) reduce the target's capacitor level by a certain amount and give that same amount to you, however they don't work if the targets capacitor level is lower than your own (in percent). Neutralizers (AKA Energy Destabilizes or Neuts ) remove a much larger amount of the target's capacitor and always work, however they don't give you anything back.
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1406	Posted - 2015.09.06 04:21:26 - [39] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: You're using terminology wrong. Nos is short for Nosferatu, meaning vampire. What you're actually meaning to say is Neut, short for Neutralizer. Subsequently it's as confusing as hell. Nosferatus (AKA Energy Vampires or Nos ) reduce the target's capacitor level by a certain amount and give that same amount to you, however they don't work if the targets capacitor level is lower than your own (in percent). Neutralizers (AKA Energy Destabilizes or Neuts ) remove a much larger amount of the target's capacitor and always work, however they don't give you anything back. Flying a frigate fighting something bigger than you (subsequently with a more powerful capacitor) a nos is generally preferable because it allows you to exploit their superior capacitor capabilities to power your own modules. The longer you can keep your rep running and afterburner burning the better. Just a small clarification......vampires don't go on percentages anymore...if your capacitor pool is smaller than the targets (in actual points) the vamp sucks cap from target...if not, has no effect. However, vamps use no capacitor when in use. Where as neuts always burn enemy cap.....but also take cap to run, as well. Also, any skill that increases powergrid, cap, armor/hull/shield capacity, and cpu is useful. Tons of skill guides for PVP newbro's out there, check em out. Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.
Mike Adoulin Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters 1406	Posted - 2015.09.06 04:24:42 - [40] - Quote Morgan Agrivar wrote: LOL. You nailed Johan Force. This guy would sit in rookie systems and let them shoot at him. Then he would reship and blow them up. Too bad you didn't get the pod. +1 to you, sir. Nice. I know that guy........he's a punk, only gets in fights with newbro's cuz they the only one's he can kill. Go kill him some more. Bring friends. I'm sure Vimsy would love to give him some hot Vindy loving..:) Or just gank his bait boats......:) Everything in EVE is a trap. And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:) You want to know what immorality in EVE Online looks like? Look no further than Ripard "Jester" Teg. Chribba is the Chuck Norris of EVE.

Morgan Agrivar Yamaguchi Holding LLC 62	Posted - 2015.09.06 07:38:07 - [41] - Quote Vimsy Vortis wrote: You're using terminology wrong. Nos is short for Nosferatu, meaning vampire. What you're actually meaning to say is Neut, short for Neutralizer. Subsequently it's as confusing as hell. Nosferatus (AKA Energy Vampires or Nos ) reduce the target's capacitor level by a certain amount and give that same amount to you, however they don't work if the targets capacitor level is lower than your own (in percent). Neutralizers (AKA Energy Destabilizes or Neuts ) remove a much larger amount of the target's capacitor and always work, however they don't give you anything back. Flying a frigate fighting something bigger than you (subsequently with a more powerful capacitor) a nos is generally preferable because it allows you to exploit their superior capacitor capabilities to power your own modules. The longer you can keep your rep running and afterburner burning the better. Thanks for pointing that out, Vimsy. Like I said, I am horrible at pvp. Never really used either one. Others in my old corp loved the vampires though. "Out of all the people who have tried to kill me, you are my favorite."
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 3175	Posted - 2015.09.06 14:40:55 - [42] - Quote Mike Adoulin wrote: I'm sure Vimsy would love to give him some hot Vindy loving..:) I actually just finished training large hybrid turrets!
Demerius Xenocratus Rapid Withdrawal 631	Posted - 2015.09.08 06:41:28 - [43] - Quote Morgan Agrivar wrote: Cidanel Afuran wrote: +1 for the snowball launcher. I'd drop it and add a nos though. This was my general setup when I first started https://zkillboard.com/kill/40773127/ And by far cap skills/engineering skills are incredibly important. It's not a waste of time by any means to get those up quickly. Those are the general support skills that will translate to a benefit to any ship you fly. By far the best advice I can give is to roam around with a few more people. Going at it solo is an uphill battle when you are just starting out. If we have a WH open near your system I can give you a shout in game and we can kill people. I'm not the best PvP-er myself by any means, but I've finally ground enough ISK/SPs with this account that I want to turn him more PvP. The nos will help when fighting a frigate or destroyer but might not really help against a cruiser or higher since their capacitor is a lot bigger and can handle a small nos. I would go with a rocket launcher in the 4th slot if you are up close or a light missile launcher if you are a kiter. 75 dps isnt much and most cruiser tanks can easily handle that. It would depend on his fit if he was ASB fit, or had to inject cap to keep everything going. If the drones took him out, you need to learn how to switch and lock drones and shoot them. If he has no drones to take the Rifter out, then it is a matter of who runs out of support first. Your Rifter ammo or his tank. Get out of the Minmatar line if you want to engage in this playstyle. Go Gallente. Minmatar frigates don't get enough DPS to break big targets and they're more about speed than tank. Learn the way of the dual-rep incursus, round out your frigate support skills, armor and blasters, then work on drones, assault frigates and eventually cruisers. You want to be able to use the incursus and the Fed Navy Comet, then the Ishkur and Enyo, a quick detour into destroyers for the gankalyst, and work on skilling for a Vexor; a dual rep vexor with good drone and gun skills is a monster for a T1 cruiser and will segue right into Navy Vexors and Ishtars, which are also devastatingly effective for solo and small gang work. When it comes to baiting and killing big stupid things in highsec, you want something small enough to get under their guns, with enough tank to absorb drone damage while you eliminate the pests and enough dps to burn through your target's tank. Active repped gallente ships with blasters and drones, are your weapon of choice.
Altony Compagno Republic University Minmatar Republic 43	Posted - 2015.09.08 21:02:06 - [44] - Quote ^Thanks for the perspective^ I enjoy my Rifter so far and have been using it primarily as I work through the pvp jitters, skill up my guns and support skills, and learn the controls a bit. I took a few days off but I've gathered a handful of kills so far and am eager for more. None of them are terribly exciting. A gank on a venture with a meta catalyst fit (I am still working toward thermodynamics and my gunnery skills weren't enough to let me get anything bigger) was a fun side-step with a CODE agent (thank you sir). Suspect baited a frigate in a belt. That was very fulfilling if not terribly exciting. It was over quick, and they didn't even respond to my taunts. A few duels. Maybe 3-4. I think there is only one that accepted that had a logically fit ship, but I applauded them all for either challenging or accepting mine. I should be ok with an incursus and will try to fit one out tonight to see how I like it. I think I'd like a few more kills under my belt before I try rolling with experienced vets. I still get a little anxious and click happy and I want to cool that down a bit before I try anything harder that crap-fit fellow rookies. I was so excited that the gank went well that I didn't get his pod fast enough, those kinds of mistakes I'd rather not do in front of too many. Thanks again to those of you that have taken time to send messages with fits, tips, and advice. It has been greatly appreciated and very empowering.


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