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Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:29:00 - [1] Hi all Due to Technical problems the server crashed. Please post all discussions / comments in this thread only. All other thread will be locked on this issue. More news will follow if / when it comes to light. - Thanks Hutch. ____ forum rules \| Email us They call me "Hutch" because my name is well... long

Brutor Shaun Minmatar Freelancers UK Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:30:00 - [2] First!!!!!!!!!! So, what happened???? Thanks for fixing it anyway.
Del369 Caldari Office linebackers Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:32:00 - [3] "Proxy not connected to sol servers" if it helps :) Originally by: Wrangler That is an outright lie! We don't want to discriminate anyone! We want both anti-social and social players to grief each other!
Tachy	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:34:00 - [4] Somehow ... well, did you just link an external smiley in your post, Hutch? tries to connect sol to the net again --==*-- The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait \| 2006.09.20
Max Hammer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:35:00 - [5] Right i am seriously getting ****ed off.. can we please get a write from Valar? PostKali - Gameplay lagged and broken First patch - Ok as far as i remember Second patch - 2 1/2 hours late uptime then still slow/buggy Downtime today - currently 1 1/2hours late without full gameplay.

Devil Hanzo Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:35:00 - [6] Anyone else notice how the santa is green? King of the Pink Sig - Karl Chroimcer Its red and very manly! - Devil Hanzo First sigjack by me ever. - Garthagk Violet is the manliest yet - Conuion Meow

Shino Tu Caldari Kaaii-Net Research Labs	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:36:00 - [7] Originally by: Max Hammer Right i am seriously getting ****ed off.. can we please get a write from Valar? PostKali - Gameplay lagged and broken First patch - Ok as far as i remember Second patch - 2 1/2 hours late uptime then still slow/buggy Downtime today - currently 1 1/2hours late without full gameplay. see sig... "Unhappy people expect the world to adapt to them and happy people adapt to the world."
Max Hammer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:40:00 - [8] I don't have a problem with the issue, it's the fact theres no written followup. And this is the first time i know about a VERY reduced lack of dev information.
MachineGunDave Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:42:00 - [9] Originally by: Shino Tu Originally by: Max Hammer Right i am seriously getting ****ed off.. can we please get a write from Valar? PostKali - Gameplay lagged and broken First patch - Ok as far as i remember Second patch - 2 1/2 hours late uptime then still slow/buggy Downtime today - currently 1 1/2hours late without full gameplay. see sig... Right, so you must enjoy getting walked all over. People shouldn't be talked down for expecting a service that they are paying for. Everyone here who pays for the game has a right to be critical of how poor the quality of service has been lately. Frankly with the number of players that have been in game the free 14 day trials should be suspended immediately. The games equipment is really starting to show some trouble with this many players and the people who aren't paying should be made to go.
MonsooN WinD Amarr	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:44:00 - [10] Originally by: MachineGunDave Originally by: Shino Tu Originally by: Max Hammer Right i am seriously getting ****ed off.. can we please get a write from Valar? PostKali - Gameplay lagged and broken First patch - Ok as far as i remember Second patch - 2 1/2 hours late uptime then still slow/buggy Downtime today - currently 1 1/2hours late without full gameplay. see sig... I Agree. Right, so you must enjoy getting walked all over. People shouldn't be talked down for expecting a service that they are paying for. Everyone here who pays for the game has a right to be critical of how poor the quality of service has been lately. Frankly with the number of players that have been in game the free 14 day trials should be suspended immediately. The games equipment is really starting to show some trouble with this many players and the people who aren't paying should be made to go.
Max Hammer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:44:00 - [11] Originally by: MachineGunDave Originally by: Shino Tu Originally by: Max Hammer Right i am seriously getting ****ed off.. can we please get a write from Valar? PostKali - Gameplay lagged and broken First patch - Ok as far as i remember Second patch - 2 1/2 hours late uptime then still slow/buggy Downtime today - currently 1 1/2hours late without full gameplay. see sig... Right, so you must enjoy getting walked all over. People shouldn't be talked down for expecting a service that they are paying for. Everyone here who pays for the game has a right to be critical of how poor the quality of service has been lately. Frankly with the number of players that have been in game the free 14 day trials should be suspended immediately. The games equipment is really starting to show some trouble with this many players and the people who aren't paying should be made to go. True but i have to disagree slightly.. the service.. is well.. you know but thats not why im vocalising my anger.. it's cause noone is telling us anything official.
Mini newswire	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:44:00 - [12] Please can we start donating isk to ccp to help buy server viagra it looks like they really need the blue pill to get it up.
Tachy	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:44:00 - [13] Originally by: Devil Hanzo Anyone else notice how the santa is green? That sounds a bit intollerant to me. How's the server now? --==*-- The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait \| 2006.09.20
Tellok	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:44:00 - [14] Edited by: Tellok on 14/12/2006 13:44:57 Originally by: MachineGunDave Originally by: Shino Tu Originally by: Max Hammer Right i am seriously getting ****ed off.. can we please get a write from Valar? PostKali - Gameplay lagged and broken First patch - Ok as far as i remember Second patch - 2 1/2 hours late uptime then still slow/buggy Downtime today - currently 1 1/2hours late without full gameplay. see sig... Right, so you must enjoy getting walked all over. People shouldn't be talked down for expecting a service that they are paying for. Everyone here who pays for the game has a right to be critical of how poor the quality of service has been lately. Frankly with the number of players that have been in game the free 14 day trials should be suspended immediately. The games equipment is really starting to show some trouble with this many players and the people who aren't paying should be made to go. "fanboi" yes server has been crap lately ok well for the last 4 months anyway but there fixing it Ö :)
Max Hammer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:45:00 - [15] Originally by: Tachy Originally by: Devil Hanzo Anyone else notice how the santa is green? That sounds a bit intollerant to me. How's the server now? Down.
Tachy	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:45:00 - [16] Originally by: Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Hi all Due to Technical problems [...] Imagine the server crashed for political or psychological reason ... ducks and runs --==*-- The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait \| 2006.09.20
Raijen Ar'Desh Gallente Interstellar Business Machines Corp. 9th Fleet	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:46:00 - [17] For me at least it went through the normal Startup in Xm XXs... then rolled over to 8 minutes again when it hit zero. I'll assume it's still broken.
Thaylon Sen The Rat Pack	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:47:00 - [18] Originally by: MachineGunDave Originally by: Shino Tu Originally by: Max Hammer Right i am seriously getting ****ed off.. can we please get a write from Valar? PostKali - Gameplay lagged and broken First patch - Ok as far as i remember Second patch - 2 1/2 hours late uptime then still slow/buggy Downtime today - currently 1 1/2hours late without full gameplay. see sig... Right, so you must enjoy getting walked all over. People shouldn't be talked down for expecting a service that they are paying for. Everyone here who pays for the game has a right to be critical of how poor the quality of service has been lately. Frankly with the number of players that have been in game the free 14 day trials should be suspended immediately. The games equipment is really starting to show some trouble with this many players and the people who aren't paying should be made to go. But at least he's happy
maarud Einherjar Incorporated Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:47:00 - [19] Edited by: maarud on 14/12/2006 13:47:12 Also waiting for the 2 dev blogs that were promised that were "already done" last week and neither of them were about EON. Communication gone down the drain again :( Merry xmas Maarud. Proudly a Ex-BYDI member
MachineGunDave Caldari	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:47:00 - [20] Originally by: Tellok Edited by: Tellok on 14/12/2006 13:44:57 Originally by: MachineGunDave Originally by: Shino Tu Originally by: Max Hammer Right i am seriously getting ****ed off.. can we please get a write from Valar? PostKali - Gameplay lagged and broken First patch - Ok as far as i remember Second patch - 2 1/2 hours late uptime then still slow/buggy Downtime today - currently 1 1/2hours late without full gameplay. see sig... Right, so you must enjoy getting walked all over. People shouldn't be talked down for expecting a service that they are paying for. Everyone here who pays for the game has a right to be critical of how poor the quality of service has been lately. Frankly with the number of players that have been in game the free 14 day trials should be suspended immediately. The games equipment is really starting to show some trouble with this many players and the people who aren't paying should be made to go. "fanboi" yes server has been crap lately ok well for the last 4 months anyway but there fixing it Ö :) Are people paying attention to who I was actually quoting there?
I Feelit2	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:48:00 - [21] Edited by: I Feelit2 on 14/12/2006 13:48:14 I request that you stop putting these up, they do no good, you delete posts which you deem to be negative and are either in jest or questioning... just post the comment and update otherwise lock it so no one posts ty
Zeonos Amarr venus divine brotherhood Dark Forces Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:48:00 - [22] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcLL3331lww 16min for the waiting time :) enjoy the movie :)
Major Stormer Caldari Red Storm Vendetta	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:48:00 - [23] Red Storm Corp Channel, incoming feed o/ Hi Stormer Whats up? Nothing much no wa......gahhhhhhhhhhh server dies Good luck to CCP, im sure you can get it going again :) Red Storm Vendetta is now recruiting! Click me for more info
Telemicus Thrace Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:48:00 - [24] Originally by: Max Hammer Right i am seriously getting **ed off.. can we please get a write from Valar? PostKali - Gameplay lagged and broken First patch - Ok as far as i remember Second patch - 2 1/2 hours late uptime then still slow/buggy Downtime today - currently 1 1/2hours late without full gameplay. Mate I feel your pain. For me I can only really get in game for an hour after DT during the week. Maybe an hour before if I'm lucky. Every time the server goes down for an hour or so after DT I effectively lose a day. Try doing skill changes and running a POS network when you can be denied access for a day at random on any given day. Fact is they will not move DT out of this time zone. They will not do maintenance in other time zones. We will never be reimbursed for lost time or lost ships and POSs due to this. Either accept that we get the **ty end of the Eve stick or take you money elsewhere, those are your only options. >> RECRUITING <<
Captain ratt	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:50:00 - [25] ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH
Gutsani The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:51:00 - [26] K, gutsani's back with server facts! During downtime, Oveur woke up to take a **. On his way to the toilet, he tripped over the CCP mainframe's (the one in iceland) router, resulting in the database going currupt. They called Kieron who was in london to drive over to the datacenter. Upon arriving there and entering the server room, his "CCP Bussiness Card" got sucked out of his pocket by the airco. It gotten stuck in the proxy server's fan resulting in the CPU melting. Currently IBM is at the spot to investigate what exactly happened, and to fix the database. Estimation on when the server is working again? 14 30 eve time. ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!**
Aphotic Raven Gallente WMD Special Forces Dark Forces Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:51:00 - [27] Originally by: MachineGunDave Originally by: Shino Tu Originally by: Max Hammer Right i am seriously getting **ed off.. can we please get a write from Valar? PostKali - Gameplay lagged and broken First patch - Ok as far as i remember Second patch - 2 1/2 hours late uptime then still slow/buggy Downtime today - currently 1 1/2hours late without full gameplay. see sig... Right, so you must enjoy getting walked all over. People shouldn't be talked down for expecting a service that they are paying for. Everyone here who pays for the game has a right to be critical of how poor the quality of service has been lately. Frankly with the number of players that have been in game the free 14 day trials should be suspended immediately. The games equipment is really starting to show some trouble with this many players and the people who aren't paying should be made to go. Yeah ban trials, CCP loves more cash but influx = bad... they are advertising all over the place FFS when the server gets pwned every weekend until it is unplayable. But then again i guess this is fine for CCP, as usual, majority rule. Majority of customers arent on at this time = Australians/NZ/asia gets the shaft. I see reimbursement for the bull happening in game.. what about when your server isnt up and we cant even get ** by your ty coding... Wheres the reimbursement for those who cant get on -_- Quote: Melicien Tetro: I tried to fight a shark with a pistol underwater once, and I'll be ed if he didn't laugh at me and eat me. Sharks need a ***** nerf. True story
Gary Payne	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:52:00 - [28] im so glad i put a long training skill on before i logged.. i had a feeling it wouldent come back after dt.. ANY chance up paying ppl can have some free days payment for all the DT we have had to put up with?
Will Fireblade Maza Nostra Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:52:00 - [29] FREEE HAMSTEEEERS FREEEE HAMSTEEERS
Max Hammer Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:52:00 - [30] Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Originally by: Max Hammer Right i am seriously getting **ed off.. can we please get a write from Valar? PostKali - Gameplay lagged and broken First patch - Ok as far as i remember Second patch - 2 1/2 hours late uptime then still slow/buggy Downtime today - currently 1 1/2hours late without full gameplay. Mate I feel your pain. For me I can only really get in game for an hour after DT during the week. Maybe an hour before if I'm lucky. Every time the server goes down for an hour or so after DT I effectively lose a day. Try doing skill changes and running a POS network when you can be denied access for a day at random on any given day. Fact is they will not move DT out of this time zone. They will not do maintenance in other time zones. We will never be reimbursed for lost time or lost ships and POSs due to this. Either accept that we get the **ty end of the Eve stick or take you money elsewhere, those are your only options. They could give us a nice long devblog peptalk to make us feel better
Gary Payne	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:53:00 - [31] i dont think hampsters are genna do any good.. they need them to power there servers,
Oku Kee'lus	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:54:00 - [32] "Database failover caused cluster to go down. Starting up now." There's your offical statement on the matter. It helps you how? The thread was started with a statement that the server was down due to technical reasons.
Sevvin	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:55:00 - [33] I understand that all games have their problems, but what irritates me is the number of trial accounts that are allowed on. It seems that the servers can barely handle the number of subscribers CCP has, yet they continue to allow more and more trial accounts. How about limiting them a little more until things are under control. The thought of waiting in a queue to log in, or waiting in jump queue because of "potential" customers really gets on my nerves.
Phaedruss	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:55:00 - [34] Originally by: Telemicus Thrace Mate I feel your pain. For me I can only really get in game for an hour after DT during the week. Maybe an hour before if I'm lucky. Every time the server goes down for an hour or so after DT I effectively lose a day. Try doing skill changes and running a POS network when you can be denied access for a day at random on any given day. Fact is they will not move DT out of this time zone. They will not do maintenance in other time zones. We will never be reimbursed for lost time or lost ships and POSs due to this. Either accept that we get the ****ty end of the Eve stick or take you money elsewhere, those are your only options. Exactly the same boat here. DT eats up a good part of my available time in game because of the time zone, and every time they screw up or decide on an extended DT it's effectively a 24 hour DT for me. I imagine it's the same for many on the West side of the Pacific. Spending the dollars elsewhere is looking more attractive all the time
Anthony Criss	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:56:00 - [35] You all act like this is something new I mean come one people when are you gonna relise that CCP has been blwoing smoke up your dresses and they could careless what happens they are in it for the money thats it. Its only a matter of time before thier new so called partners White Wolf relise just what they got thier self into and leave..you can take that to the bank
Gary Payne	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:56:00 - [36] i think maybe some of the hampsters spilled over into there database and ate some code. so they had to re-write the missing parts....
Hehulk Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:58:00 - [37] Originally by: Sevvin I understand that all games have their problems, but what irritates me is the number of trial accounts that are allowed on. It seems that the servers can barely handle the number of subscribers CCP has, yet they continue to allow more and more trial accounts. How about limiting them a little more until things are under control. The thought of waiting in a queue to log in, or waiting in jump queue because of "potential" customers really gets on my nerves. You do know there's a limit on the number of trial account that can log into TQ at any one time, right? Wouldn't want to go looking silly and ignorant ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it
Donmadefy	Posted - 2006.12.14 13:59:00 - [38] anyone having trouble with the markets?
Grez Minmatar The Raven Warriors	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:01:00 - [39] Originally by: Sevvin I understand that all games have their problems, but what irritates me is the number of trial accounts that are allowed on. It seems that the servers can barely handle the number of subscribers CCP has, yet they continue to allow more and more trial accounts. How about limiting them a little more until things are under control. The thought of waiting in a queue to log in, or waiting in jump queue because of "potential" customers really gets on my nerves. The number of trial accounts are limited, I think it's something like 2,500 trial accounts on at one time, no more. --- Cache Clearer Still waiting for a Wrangler-edit!
Aphotic Raven Gallente WMD Special Forces Dark Forces Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:01:00 - [40] Hmm i agree, the feedback via devblogs is pathetically low... im sure they're very busy though.. clearly to busy to fix drones... Still, Devblogs every day or 2 wouldnt kill them... all the dev blogs talk about up coming features and how awesome the games gonna be... to bad its ** at the moment... Also the last dev blog plugging their card game... thats a great help to the community. i know thats what i want for xmas. Does the card game lag/dc? and does it have bugs? will there be a patch pack? These questions relate to money.. maybe i'll get an answer. Offlines Where It's At. Truth? Quote: Melicien Tetro: I tried to fight a shark with a pistol underwater once, and I'll be ed if he didn't laugh at me and eat me. Sharks need a ***** nerf. True story
Hellspawn01 Amarr Storm Armada	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:01:00 - [41] Is this thread of any use? We just know the server crashed till a dev posts some infos. Ship lovers click here

Valar	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:02:00 - [42] Post mortem... At downtime today, I worked on restoring the wallet transaction logs we had to nerf a bit yesterday to get the patch done on time(I know it wasn't on time). This included running 3 giant insert statements, moving ca. 300mil rows from the archive table to the new table. After I started the server a bit after 12:00, I saw we had a problem. I was getting timeouts when I tried connecting to the database server and few minutes later it initiated a failover. Reading the logs for it shows that ALL its schedulers got deadlocked by what I can only assume is a bug in SQL Server 2005, because nothing we do should possibly deadlock the actual schedulers. Due to the large transactions I ran shortly before the crash, the recovery phase of the failover took an hour. Thats why it took so long to get the server back up. Thats all for now. I have to run off to a meeting. ------ Valar Database admin - Server operations team CCP Games How to write a good bugreport

Rendall Arc	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:05:00 - [43] Extensive hardware and software optimizations for both the server and game client, including performance gains, memory leak fixes and much more. perfomance like log in lag out count up to 120 waiting activates module wait on server crash allways nice to see how good and stables this server works fun for each player you should maybe reduce ppl in system to max 4 install in each sys free stations for all so noone have to think about to defend systems or hold sov . is ccp tell us much and i see nothing
PeveS The Edge Foundation	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:06:00 - [44] Originally by: Mini newswire Please can we start donating isk to ccp to help buy server viagra it looks like they really need the blue pill to get it up. How do you know its the blue pill they need?
Ryan Scouse'UK	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:08:00 - [45] Originally by: Valar Post mortem... At downtime today, I worked on restoring the wallet transaction logs we had to nerf a bit yesterday to get the patch done on time(I know it wasn't on time). This included running 3 giant insert statements, moving ca. 300mil rows from the archive table to the new table. After I started the server a bit after 12:00, I saw we had a problem. I was getting timeouts when I tried connecting to the database server and few minutes later it initiated a failover. Reading the logs for it shows that ALL its schedulers got deadlocked by what I can only assume is a bug in SQL Server 2005, because nothing we do should possibly deadlock the actual schedulers. Due to the large transactions I ran shortly before the crash, the recovery phase of the failover took an hour. Thats why it took so long to get the server back up. Thats all for now. I have to run off to a meeting. Cheers Val , we know you do ur best & the server is very hard to look after :) /me sends Crate of Xmas Beer
Tachy	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:08:00 - [46] Have a nice weekend Valar! Pilots already been asking where the player donation info in the journal has gone to. Good luck in finding the problems and getting them fixed ASAP! --==*-- The cause for this is not yet known, but we do have a possible fix in testing. by Sharkbait \| 2006.09.20
Sevvin	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:12:00 - [47] Edited by: Sevvin on 14/12/2006 14:20:44 Originally by: Hehulk Originally by: Sevvin I understand that all games have their problems, but what irritates me is the number of trial accounts that are allowed on. It seems that the servers can barely handle the number of subscribers CCP has, yet they continue to allow more and more trial accounts. How about limiting them a little more until things are under control. The thought of waiting in a queue to log in, or waiting in jump queue because of "potential" customers really gets on my nerves. You do know there's a limit on the number of trial account that can log into TQ at any one time, right? Wouldn't want to go looking silly and ignorant Nope, dont feel silly and/or ignorant. I'm aware that they limit the number of trial accounts. That's why i said "how about limiting them a little MORE" I personally think that trial accounts should be done away with until they can keep their current players online w/o jump queues and constant lag
maarud Einherjar Incorporated Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:13:00 - [48] Originally by: Valar Post mortem... At downtime today, I worked on restoring the wallet transaction logs we had to nerf a bit yesterday to get the patch done on time(I know it wasn't on time). This included running 3 giant insert statements, moving ca. 300mil rows from the archive table to the new table. After I started the server a bit after 12:00, I saw we had a problem. I was getting timeouts when I tried connecting to the database server and few minutes later it initiated a failover. Reading the logs for it shows that ALL its schedulers got deadlocked by what I can only assume is a bug in SQL Server 2005, because nothing we do should possibly deadlock the actual schedulers. Due to the large transactions I ran shortly before the crash, the recovery phase of the failover took an hour. Thats why it took so long to get the server back up. Thats all for now. I have to run off to a meeting. Thanks Valar, nice to get a diffrent reason than the usual "We had to roll back the DB" or some such responce. Good luck. Maarud. Proudly a Ex-BYDI member
Gutsani The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:19:00 - [49] Originally by: Valar ...300mil rows from the archive... thats where it went wrong :) every muppet knows you have to split SQL inserts in SMALLER pieces (unsure of how small, depends on server settings, i had em between 20k and 100k). ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!
Fortior STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:28:00 - [50] Originally by: Gutsani Originally by: Valar ...300mil rows from the archive... thats where it went wrong :) every muppet knows you have to split SQL inserts in SMALLER pieces (unsure of how small, depends on server settings, i had em between 20k and 100k). Yeah, everyone knows to only copy 5 bookmarks at a time
Baleorg Gallente Guys of Sarcasm	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:45:00 - [51] Edited by: Baleorg on 14/12/2006 14:47:17 Originally by: Del369 "Proxy not connected to aol servers" if it helps :) thats what i read :-/ p.s. god, i love valar/kieron/wrangler/ovour.. and well of course the others.. they tell us "yep we did somethign wrong, we did it, we suck[not really, you see my drift;)] and here is the explanation what we did and whats wrong: [long TECHNICAl babble sometimes,too, not the stupid "sorry for the inconvience" keep going ^^ --- BTW: A GOOD Cache-Cleaner
Major Shake Gallente BlizzCom	Posted - 2006.12.14 14:50:00 - [52] Edited by: Major Shake on 14/12/2006 14:50:14 Your have just cost me quite a few hours in skill time >_< if possilbe just give me training Presence IV since 7:42 am plz (technicaly I was going to switch it at 8 because i overslept)
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions	Posted - 2006.12.14 15:58:00 - [53] I wish I could say I'm shocked and disgusted, but I'm just disgusted. The server konks out for an hour or two and you all go ballistic, calling CCP bad people, money-grubbing vikingsÖ, generally uncaring individuals. Just... wow. Can CCP ban people for just being whiny, selfish little ingrates? ---------------------------- Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY WTB: Friggin' portrait
Alowishus Shadow Company Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.14 16:04:00 - [54] Originally by: MachineGunDave Originally by: Shino Tu Originally by: Max Hammer Right i am seriously getting ****ed off.. can we please get a write from Valar? PostKali - Gameplay lagged and broken First patch - Ok as far as i remember Second patch - 2 1/2 hours late uptime then still slow/buggy Downtime today - currently 1 1/2hours late without full gameplay. see sig... Right, so you must enjoy getting walked all over. People shouldn't be talked down for expecting a service that they are paying for. Everyone here who pays for the game has a right to be critical of how poor the quality of service has been lately. Frankly with the number of players that have been in game the free 14 day trials should be suspended immediately. The games equipment is really starting to show some trouble with this many players and the people who aren't paying should be made to go. Walked all over? Read the EULA. Performance issues are expected after a patch. You are paying for the game with the understanding that sometimes there will be performance issues after major upgrades. Don't think they're doing a good job? Start your own MMORPG and see if you can do better when 30,000 people are simultaniously logging in AND downloading a patch. You're not getting walked all over, you, like many other children in the world today, didn't read the fine print. P.S. The game was virtually unplayable for me last night. But I didn't complain because I understood the EULA and that a patch had been deployed. Also, other than after the three recent patches, I haven't had server issues in months.

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