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Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.14 19:02:00 - [1] (Views are my own, not my alliance or corp's) Is there any possibility of getting a few of the larger alliances to agree on a nuetral outpost in the new region ? If, in theory, I could **** out a Minmatar Refining Outpost in a central spot in the new area, does anyone here think its possible to get a flag of no agression there? You could fight in the system, you could camp the station. You may have to fight to get your haulers in there. You may not succeed, but nobody attacks the station. Sometimes gate camps would have to be smashed, sometimes people who fight for who controlled the system, but the station would allways be open for anyone. I thought about throwing down 5 bill on MC for a short time, but it just doesnt seem like it falls in their pervue and I couldnt afford them forever. I would think that it would be very exciting. Imagine sitting there with your corp saying "We have to get these three haulers through - no matter what, so protect the haulers! And then diving into a hostile camp head first! I can think of tons of fun possibilites, but it would be very hard if I was constantly fueling and defending POS's. What do you guys think ? Is there room in Eve, on the frontier for somthing like this ? A place where anyone can dock, and you may well meat your hated enemy in the station's bar.
Taizu Lilith Minmatar Counterglow Kancho Unlimited	Posted - 2006.12.14 19:05:00 - [2] You mean how ISS should have been?
Rod Blaine Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 19:06:00 - [3] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 14/12/2006 19:06:15 You migth get them to agree by making ti be in their interest to. That's what ISS tried, along with counting on some regular goodwill. It worked decently so far, altho their road has been bumpy now and then. If there is however no reason for anyone to not attack you, chances are you'll be attacked at some point. Old blog
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 19:06:00 - [4] Edited by: DB Preacher on 14/12/2006 19:06:20 Sure, come speak to us about placing an outpost in our land :P Might cost you a bit though ;) dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.12.14 19:09:00 - [5] Or how about the big alliances stick to their space? ~Thor Xian, Chief Administrator "For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One." Corp/Alliance Services
Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.14 19:11:00 - [6] The general thought would be that you wouldnt want to attack because you would need the outpost. It only works in the new regions (Sorry DB, besides, your regions are nice arleady) because there would be no other place to refine / buy / sell. You'd really NEED it. Right now getting booted from ISS isnt much, there are stations all over. The sheer deterant of getting booted from there would discourage attacks. And with 4 or 5 Large Death-Star POS's it would take a fleet to knock them offline. If agreement could be made amongst the large players, it could probably work.
Astasia Orian Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 19:14:00 - [7] Quote: Or how about the big alliances stick to their space? It's all our space :)
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.14 19:27:00 - [8] Tbh the large alliances aren't your concern, its the smaller alliances which haven't invested billions into infrastructure in their current space who are most likely to try and take over the outpost. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Hoshi DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.14 19:29:00 - [9] Originally by: Montaire The sheer deterant of getting booted from there would discourage attacks. And with 4 or 5 Large Death-Star POS's it would take a fleet to knock them offline. If agreement could be made amongst the large players, it could probably work. The problems is there are lots of alliances with fleets large enough to do it, some might even do it just for fun. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.14 19:38:00 - [10] Originally by: Hoshi The problems is there are lots of alliances with fleets large enough to do it, some might even do it just for fun. Yup. RAZOR is one of the larger regional powers up there if my reserach is correct. What if I got set up with one alliance or another ? The more I hear the more discourged I get that the idea cant fly. If some large, territorial power were to claim a region, then I could put it up there and sync with their standings. I can see that working. Any "Large Territorial Powers" up for it ? Seems the consensus is that this wont work though. Which is sad, would be a crap ton of fun.
Thor Xian Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2006.12.14 19:50:00 - [11] Originally by: Astasia Orian Quote: Or how about the big alliances stick to their space? It's all our space :) And CCP has done nothing but promote that mentality. Between the crappy way sovereignty works and instas/wtz, controlling the galaxy is entirely within the realm of possibility. ~Thor Xian, Chief Administrator "For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One." Corp/Alliance Services
Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.14 19:57:00 - [12] Anyone that wants to knows where BoB lives, and can go try and take their regions. Now is in fact a good time as they are moderatly occupied. But thats not the subject of this thread :~) Frack. I wanted to put up an outpost out there. Originally by: Thor Xian Originally by: Astasia Orian Quote: Or how about the big alliances stick to their space? It's all our space :) And CCP has done nothing but promote that mentality. Between the crappy way sovereignty works and instas/wtz, controlling the galaxy is entirely within the realm of possibility.
MaidMarion FarCry Inc Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.14 20:14:00 - [13] Originally by: Astasia Orian Quote: Or how about the big alliances stick to their space? It's all our space :) LOL - knew that was comming.
jernej Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 20:25:00 - [14] Originally by: MaidMarion Originally by: Astasia Orian Quote: Or how about the big alliances stick to their space? It's all our space :) LOL - knew that was comming. afaik we even own the servers
wierchas noobhunter Caldari Kemono.	Posted - 2006.12.14 20:51:00 - [15] Edited by: wierchas noobhunter on 14/12/2006 20:50:59 Originally by: jernej Originally by: MaidMarion Originally by: Astasia Orian Quote: Or how about the big alliances stick to their space? It's all our space :) LOL - knew that was comming. afaik we even own the servers bob has even bigger ego then mine i am WIERCHAS i am like UBER and stuff
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2006.12.14 21:57:00 - [16] Originally by: Montaire Frack. I wanted to put up an outpost out there. This is territory even ISS won't tread it seems. I could actually imagine the major alliances agreeing to it, but you'll never get the pirates to agree, and that will be the problem. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic
Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.14 22:03:00 - [17] Yup. A while back the idea of a pirate group with enough dreads seemed slim. That time seems to have passed, if not its passing soon. CCP should just put up 3 Conquerable outposts there. Then remove all the moons from that system. No Sov for anyone. Now that would rock. Originally by: Verite Rendition Originally by: Montaire Frack. I wanted to put up an outpost out there. This is territory even ISS won't tread it seems. I could actually imagine the major alliances agreeing to it, but you'll never get the pirates to agree, and that will be the problem.
Ather Ialeas Amarr Karjala Inc. Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.14 22:04:00 - [18] Get good friends, build your own, make it public (with docking fees and all that stuff ISS does too) and defend it with your friends. No, ex-NFC can't considered as good friends. You are #27 in queue to see this signature.
Montaire Lacedaemon. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.14 22:12:00 - [19] Originally by: Ather Ialeas Get good friends, build your own, make it public (with docking fees and all that stuff ISS does too) and defend it with your friends. No, ex-NFC can't considered as good friends. Remember I cant speak for my alliance or corp. I have friends, no worries there. But without regional backing it would never happen. Just really a pipe dream anyway.
Ather Ialeas Amarr Karjala Inc. Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.14 22:13:00 - [20] Well look around, we're not alone here in North. You are #27 in queue to see this signature.
Namelesz Dismemberment	Posted - 2006.12.14 22:25:00 - [21] Originally by: Montaire CCP should just put up 3 Conquerable outposts there. Then remove all the moons from that system. No Sov for anyone. Now that would rock. now THAT would be really funny and interesting. and FUN!
Dr Einkeisel Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 22:41:00 - [22] how would it be fun, we've been in that situation before and it was iratating to say the least.
Tozmeister Caldari Digital Fury Corporation	Posted - 2006.12.14 22:59:00 - [23] You couldn't get the big alliances to agree to buy a pencil case, let alone an outpost. --------------------------------------------------- The Braying sheep on my TV screen Make this boy shout, make this boy scream - The Jam (1980)
Hoshi DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.14 23:36:00 - [24] Originally by: Montaire Originally by: Hoshi The problems is there are lots of alliances with fleets large enough to do it, some might even do it just for fun. Yup. RAZOR is one of the larger regional powers up there if my reserach is correct. We do live next door to the new regions but I was not really talking about razor here, doubt we would take a neutral station just for fun. But I am not part of the razor command structure so I wouldn't really know. But just take a look at what happened in providence where a pirate coalition attacked an outpost there just for fun. If they did it again in the new regions far from friendly support they might actually succeed. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
mallina Caldari Cure.	Posted - 2006.12.15 05:37:00 - [25] its far too risky atm unless you have a LOT of military backing and a LOT of friends right now, out there, you have neither hiring mercs does nothing really but delay the inevitable remember: its much cheaper to take a station than it is to build one (unless you somehow lose your entire capital fleet in the process, like ERA) ----------- Turbulance
Arthur DaKine Gallente 808 Enterprises	Posted - 2006.12.15 05:41:00 - [26] Originally by: Taizu Lilith You mean how ISS should have been? qft _ _ CEO 808 Enterprises Freighter Service Available Officiall not a bob alt corp :)
Corey Grim FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.15 08:53:00 - [27] the problem is that it would be like npc station in 0.0 and npc stations in 0.0 are bad mmm¦kay. okay agreed i like the idea (kinda) and its good that ppl come up with new approaches to game but this particular objective would only be achievable if the system has no moons as you said, now i think the only possible way to do something similiar is to plant "pirate outpost" in there, u pay for the docking ( this goes to pos fuel) and it allows only small alliances and corporations to dock in it, anyone expect the major alliances (lets say have to be under 300 members) allow corporations who are not in alliance to dock in there also and create contacts so u can get those 50 small corps and alliances to help defend the place if need be, ofc this also might fail and ofc there is a change someone will look there and say " nice outpost, we take it."........
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.12.15 09:56:00 - [28] My money is on ISS. I guess they have just got to find a decent spot to put it. What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!

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