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Esnaelc Sin'led
AdAstra. Beach Club
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Posted - 2015.09.05 15:50:52 -
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Hi o7
I'm sure i'm not the only one coming up with this idea. Please erase if it's redundant.
My "idea" : -Make a Pilot's Service just like [Multiple Pilot Training Certificate] or [Pilot's Body Resculpt Certificate] to let player change the name of their toons. [Name Change Certificate] - Make a [Name History] just like the [Employment History]. - Make an option while searching a toon name in [People & Places] to display result by actual name or concidering name history. - Toon will still appear on watchlist even after a name change (make labels !).
Advantages : - More money to CCP ! - No toon disapearing from contact. - Can still find someone with name 'A' if he change to 'B'. |

Zeus Cronus
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.09.05 16:03:37 -
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+1 |

Mag's
the united
20185
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Posted - 2015.09.05 16:40:06 -
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When Eve has 'Toons', I'll think about it and let you know my stance.
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Thirsty ben Lucky
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2015.09.05 16:55:02 -
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Awesome! Because i find this toon's name so very dumb. (i made it while drunk) |

Vortexo VonBrenner
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2137
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Posted - 2015.09.05 18:04:31 -
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I like this idea. The idea of being able to change CHARACTER (no "toons" in EvE, please, have mercy and edit your title / OP...it hurts) names has, however, been discussed a lot since the beginning of EvE. CCP doesn't want to do that
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Esnaelc Sin'led
AdAstra. Beach Club
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Posted - 2015.09.05 18:15:23 -
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Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:I like this idea. The idea of being able to change CHARACTER (no "toons" in EvE, please, have mercy and edit your title / OP...it hurts) names has, however, been discussed a lot since the beginning of EvE. CCP doesn't want to do that
Changed toon for character. I don't see where is the issue with toon, but whatever.
I know CCP don't want to change characters' name cause of history / reputations thingy, but hey, they've changed so many principles the last year that i'm hopping to see this coming one day. (clones loss / clone reputation / jump fatigue / Null Sec revamp) |

Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
484
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Posted - 2015.09.05 21:49:40 -
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Esnaelc Sin'led wrote:Vortexo VonBrenner wrote:I like this idea. The idea of being able to change CHARACTER (no "toons" in EvE, please, have mercy and edit your title / OP...it hurts) names has, however, been discussed a lot since the beginning of EvE. CCP doesn't want to do that Changed toon for character. I don't see where is the issue with toon, but whatever. I know CCP don't want to change characters' name cause of history / reputations thingy, but hey, they've changed so many principles the last year that i'm hopping to see this coming one day. (clones loss / clone reputation / jump fatigue / Null Sec revamp) Don't count on it, and I would not expect it. The whole clone loss thing was essentially a worthless situation since it never really had any impact on game play. Jump fatigue and the nul sec revamp were required because those aspects of the game were poison to the game as a whole. Poor choice of character name on the other hand really only affects the player that started the character but not the game as a whole. |

Rita Jita
Rita Jita Universal
1966
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Posted - 2015.09.05 23:01:34 -
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As i understand it the reason behind not being able to change names is due to security.
at least this was the petition response some many years ago, doubt they would have changed their stance on the matter.
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Tyranis Marcus
Bloody Heathens
1447
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Posted - 2015.09.06 04:06:10 -
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Donnachadh wrote: The whole clone loss thing was essentially a worthless situation since it never really had any impact on game play.
Even worse. It had a lot of impact by discouraging high-skillpoint players from participating in pvp. I remember when losing a rifter and pod would cost me a few mil for the rifter and mods plus 20 mil for a clone, and older players had it a lot worse. It really needed to go for the health of the game. Of course in bigger more expensive ships it was a less extreme percentage of the loss, but it still sucked.
It also had an impact when somebody screwed up and forgot to update their clone and then died, lol. A friend of mine lost his Caldari BS V right after getting his Golem. That had to suck major ass.
Personally, I'm glad those days are over.
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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
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Posted - 2015.09.06 04:14:27 -
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Well, for one thing, let me thank you for not being one of those usual vultures who just simply ask for name changes without any consideration or thought into why it hasn't been done yet. To the contrary, you have actually listed a series of acceptable trades and restrictions for said service in an attempt to answer most if not all of the issues regarding this idea's history, so again thanks for at least showing an obvious effort to accept a compromise to make this a more reasonable request. I applaud your work, good sir, and offer my +1 that this is not just another "GIMME, GIMME" thread.
Again, you have my +1, as long as it's done similar to what you have here, I'm game.
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Esnaelc Sin'led
AdAstra. Beach Club
19
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Posted - 2015.09.06 07:29:42 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:Well, for one thing, let me thank you for not being one of those usual vultures who just simply ask for name changes without any consideration or thought into why it hasn't been done yet. To the contrary, you have actually listed a series of acceptable trades and restrictions for said service in an attempt to answer most if not all of the issues regarding this idea's history, so again thanks for at least showing an obvious effort to accept a compromise to make this a more reasonable request. I applaud your work, good sir, and offer my +1 that this is not just another "GIMME, GIMME" thread.
Again, you have my +1, as long as it's done similar to what you have here, I'm game.
Thanks a lot for noticing it. :) GÖÑ |

Renfus
Vaults of Valhalla
7
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Posted - 2015.09.06 16:55:48 -
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Rita Jita wrote:As i understand it the reason behind not being able to change names is due to security.
at least this was the petition response some many years ago, doubt they would have changed their stance on the matter.
Well if that's the case they can create a name change history log like they do for Corp history.. I mean what if the character was bought or traded?? Then the name means nothing security wise.. |

Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
467
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Posted - 2015.09.07 00:00:32 -
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Why would you need to change your original name? Your name is your reputation. That's about it, why should it be so critical to change e.g. John vs J0hn ? You've been playing with "John Wick"and now wanna be "datbigscarryboat".
Hey i remember there was a guy a trusted 3rd party "darknesss" or either "darkne$$$".  |

Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
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Posted - 2015.09.07 01:04:15 -
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Renfus wrote: Well if that's the case they can create a name change history log like they do for Corp history.. I mean what if the character was bought or traded?? Then the name means nothing security wise..
Because when looking at a list of names in local you do not have time to look at all 100 for a name change history to see if they might be 'x' who is known for awoxing fellow militia members. Just to give you exactly one example.
Sure a character can be sold, but they still come with history and build on that. Buy a known awox character and see how many people believe you that it's been sold for example. |

Esnaelc Sin'led
AdAstra. Beach Club
19
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Posted - 2015.09.07 08:05:42 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Renfus wrote: Well if that's the case they can create a name change history log like they do for Corp history.. I mean what if the character was bought or traded?? Then the name means nothing security wise..
Because when looking at a list of names in local you do not have time to look at all 100 for a name change history to see if they might be 'x' who is known for awoxing fellow militia members. Just to give you exactly one example. Sure a character can be sold, but they still come with history and build on that. Buy a known awox character and see how many people believe you that it's been sold for example.
As long as everything going around a character is not affected by a name change, that means, reputation -5 -10, notes you put on his character, labels you put on him in your whatchlist, if you chose to see him logging off and logging out, once you figure out that John became Peter, it's done.
I really cannot see the issue, that's just pure ''conservativ" spirit. |

Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1456
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Posted - 2015.09.07 09:34:32 -
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+1
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
469
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Posted - 2015.09.07 09:38:46 -
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The issue is - why the hell should i look through the name history of every character just to make sure i had a righ sticker on that individual?
Hey Man soz, i was Johnny now call me Peter plz. Why ? cause i want CCP earn more money. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.07 09:48:59 -
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+1, yeah yeah Consistences an all that but i don't see this as an issue if the character is shown up on a search for either name.
Better the Devil you know.
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Esnaelc Sin'led
AdAstra. Beach Club
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Posted - 2015.09.07 10:25:41 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:The issue is - why the hell should i look through the name history of every character just to make sure i had a righ sticker on that individual?
Hey Man soz, i was Johnny now call me Peter plz. Why ? cause i want CCP earn more money.
Why the hell would you look at a character bio ? Employment History ? Why the hell would you put any reputation at all to an individual ? Why would you care at all about what he did in the pass ? |

Lan Wang
V I R I I Ineluctable.
1457
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Posted - 2015.09.07 10:27:52 -
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i dont see any reason to troll through bio's and history unless you are recruiting, then the api will tell everything
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Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
469
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Posted - 2015.09.07 11:22:21 -
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what is the whole point of changing your original name? |

Renfus
Vaults of Valhalla
7
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Posted - 2015.09.07 11:34:43 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:what is the whole point of changing your original name? Well what if you buy a character for its abilities but it's name it's horrible... That's why.. You're a different owner.. So that characters past is irrelevant the second it changes hands.. If not I'll buy Chirrabas character and everyone can start giving me billions of risk because you all trust that name right??? Because it's got nothing to do with the owner.. lol |

Tabyll Altol
Breaking.Bad Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2015.09.07 11:53:17 -
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Esnaelc Sin'led wrote:Hi o7
I'm sure i'm not the only one coming up with this idea. Please erase if it's redundant.
My "idea" : -Make a Pilot's Service just like [Multiple Pilot Training Certificate] or [Pilot's Body Resculpt Certificate] to let player change the name of a character. [Name Change Certificate] - Make a [Name History] just like the [Employment History]. - Make an option while searching a character name in [People & Places] to display result by actual name or concidering name history. - Character will still appear on watchlist even after a name change (make labels !). [edit] : - Make it usable only once every 6 months or 3 or 1 year, whatever, to avoid abusive use of that (unless CCP wants moar money :p)
Advantages : - More money to CCP ! - No character disapearing from contact. - Can still find someone with name 'A' if he change to 'B'.
Use the search funktion, and still NO !
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Esnaelc Sin'led
AdAstra. Beach Club
21
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Posted - 2015.09.07 12:29:00 -
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Tabyll Altol wrote:Use the search funktion, and still NO ! -1 Thanks for your participation to the thread. Your argument is valuable and will be concidered.
Tiddle Jr wrote:what is the whole point of changing your original name? - Your name don't reflect anymore what you are InGame. - You made a mistake at creation cause you thought you won't love the game. - You want to RP with another player and marry ? :D - You bought a character and want to rename it. - Whatever else reasons.
And even if it's because you scam people, or want to spy, i think that's really inrteresting to imagine what would come up with such a new "feature". Like a "namehunter" or an "anti-spy" new profession, i do'nt know. |

Tiddle Jr
Galvanized Inc.
469
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Posted - 2015.09.07 19:31:55 -
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Esnaelc Sin'led wrote:Tiddle Jr wrote:what is the whole point of changing your original name? - Your name don't reflect anymore what you are InGame. - You made a mistake at creation cause you thought you won't love the game. - You want to RP with another player and marry ? :D - You bought a character and want to rename it. - Whatever else reasons.
lol what? name doesn't reflect what you've been doing in game? i like it ;) 5 yrs of active pvp under the "bone crusher" & and then decided to be an industrial toon "rock eater", right?
if you were drunk or damn high while creating your character and made a shamfull mistake in the name that's your problem which you could fix by deleting "wrongly' named character and making new one.
if you are serious enough and want to marry and mecame Mr and Mrs feel free to submit a ticket with your lovely story and let's DEV's fix that for you
why have you bought a character with "wrong" name ? |

Renfus
Vaults of Valhalla
10
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Posted - 2015.09.08 12:17:15 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:Esnaelc Sin'led wrote:Tiddle Jr wrote:what is the whole point of changing your original name? - Your name don't reflect anymore what you are InGame. - You made a mistake at creation cause you thought you won't love the game. - You want to RP with another player and marry ? :D - You bought a character and want to rename it. - Whatever else reasons. lol what? name doesn't reflect what you've been doing in game? i like it ;) 5 yrs of active pvp under the "bone crusher" & and then decided to be an industrial toon "rock eater", right? if you were drunk or damn high while creating your character and made a shamfull mistake in the name that's your problem which you could fix by deleting "wrongly' named character and making new one. if you are serious enough and want to marry and mecame Mr and Mrs feel free to submit a ticket with your lovely story and let's DEV's fix that for you why have you bought a character with "wrong" name ?
I agree .. if you have created the character and jacked up its name that's your own fault... BUT The main reason for a name change is mainly if the character is sold / traded... You normally buy a character for its skills/abilities... not its name .. that's why you end up buying a character with a jacked up name..
A character is just a tool.. Once a character changes hands that characters history is irrelevant... (it has a new owner) ((( You can not hold the new owner responsible for the old owners actions...)))
like i said before.. do you think if i buy Chribbas character people should automatically trust me and send me billions if isk??? Hell no!!! ( the reason a name change should be mandatory when characters are traded) there should be a character transfer log and name change log..
if that character is in someones contact list, it should change accordingly and a notification sent ...
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
438
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Posted - 2015.09.08 12:31:55 -
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I am going to say no, as ones name in this game is a huge part of ones identity... also corporate espionage would be at a all time high |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
14858
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Posted - 2015.09.08 12:32:30 -
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Renfus wrote:the reason a name change should be mandatory when characters are traded) there should be a character transfer log and name change log..
if that character is in someones contact list, it should change accordingly Mandatory change is actually a pretty smart idea (and at least would cost someone two plex to change the name to try cover their tracks) - renaming in remote contact lists is already happening 
But overall, I'm not in favor for name changes.
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Renfus
Vaults of Valhalla
10
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Posted - 2015.09.08 12:38:12 -
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Celthric Kanerian wrote:I am going to say no, as ones name in this game is a huge part of ones identity... also corporate espionage would be at a all time high
Not if there are logs.. Transfer and name change logs... the corp history will always be there too...
So i don't see the problem |

Esnaelc Sin'led
AdAstra. Beach Club
22
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Posted - 2015.09.08 15:01:39 -
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Renfus wrote:if that character is in someones contact list, it should change accordingly and a notification sent ...
I thought about a notification to anyone who had "John" in his contact list when he change to "Peter", but i thought it was "easying" the awareness all players should have in Eve Online when it comes to "Diplomacy" (contact/standings/etc). But, yeah, that's a good idea.
Celthric Kanerian wrote:I am going to say no, as ones name in this game is a huge part of ones identity... also corporate espionage would be at a all time high
As mentionned in my first message, Name history list, just like Emplyment history list, should prevent that, more if you had a notification to the player who put that character changing name in their contact. |
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