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Widow77 State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.09.05 16:45:41 - [1] - Quote Will we be having a collection for the Syrian refugees driven out of thier homes, en masse, by ISIS forces? This is probably the largest humanitarian crisis europe has faced scince World war 2.
Salvos Rhoska 1350	Posted - 2015.09.05 17:33:09 - [2] - Quote Syria was embroiled, as it is now, in civil war well before ISIS even became a thing. The humanitarian crisis certainaly is huge, but the largest historically was Finlands diaspora out of Karelia, to which no nation responded or cared, and which most people today are unaware of. How and where exactly do you expect Plex for Good to affect the people fleeing Syria? ------------
Primary This Rifter 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 939	Posted - 2015.09.05 17:33:15 - [3] - Quote No.
Widow77 State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.09.05 17:45:35 - [4] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Syria was embroiled, as it is now, in civil war well before ISIS even became a thing. The humanitarian crisis certainaly is huge, but the largest historically was Finlands diaspora out of Karelia, and Soviet conwuest territories in WWII, to which no nation responded or cared, and which most people today are unaware of. How and where exactly do you expect Plex for Good to affect the people fleeing Syria? In Iceland alone, 11,000 people have offered their home as a place to stay for refugees, despite the governments 50 limit. In Finland the prime minister has offered up his own home. I was just thinking we could collect some money to help pay for some basic provisions for the people that need shelter.
Salvos Rhoska 1353	Posted - 2015.09.05 18:13:27 - [5] - Quote Widow77 wrote: I was just thinking we could collect some money to help pay for some basic provisions for the people that need shelter. Feel free to donate to the charity/organisation of your choice. ------------
Widow77 State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2015.09.05 18:23:48 - [6] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Widow77 wrote: I was just thinking we could collect some money to help pay for some basic provisions for the people that need shelter. Feel free to donate to the charity/organisation of your choice. I had a dream last night actually about winning the lottery. God told me he would help me win the lottery but i have to build some accomodation for refugees out of it. He told me if i do this i will prosper after the crisis has abated. (sorry for the spelling)
Salvos Rhoska 1353	Posted - 2015.09.05 18:44:30 - [7] - Quote Widow77 wrote: I had a dream... God told me he would help me win the lottery... Ok man. Guess you better buy a lottery ticket quick. ------------
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 8414	Posted - 2015.09.05 18:51:58 - [8] - Quote While it's true that the Syrian crisis - as well as attendant developments in the region, and unrelated woes throughout Africa - has caused the single largest movement of population since the post-war European upheaval, there are already several well-established grassroots aid initiatives in progress throughout Europe. Your money would be much better spent on helping fund one of these ventures: Cal Aid, for instance. So, basically, a 'no' to your proposal. [b]---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.[/b]
Cancel Align NOW Maas Industries 584	Posted - 2015.09.05 19:46:44 - [9] - Quote The problem with PLEX for good for Syrian refugees is that is a PVP problem. Other instances of Plex for good are PVE occurances.
Estevan Valladares WorldTradersGuild.Com 8	Posted - 2015.09.05 19:56:56 - [10] - Quote Cancel Align NOW wrote: The problem with PLEX for good for Syrian refugees is that is a PVP problem. Other instances of Plex for good are PVE occurances. Specially when you know Caldari States only help the struggle in between factions sending money to its own corporations to do things the said factions are all rookies who have no money or ability to enjoy them, ending up being Caldari State paying its corporations to benefit their own assets and leaving some Pharaonic Large Collidable Objects which serves to the local people no purpose. Eu... ops Amarr Empire did a much better service to its Slaves the Caldari States will ever do to its "charity subjects". WorldTradersGuild.Com [WTG] - We are here for the long haul
Marsha Mallow 2469	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:03:46 - [11] - Quote This has been asked before and answered by Falcon. I'd support an open donation to the Red Cross or any charity CCP choses, so rather than occasional Plex4Good drives they have ongoing options open. But to be fair, any of us can do that IRL so if they choose not to nbd. It probably does generate more publicity, and possibly larger donation surges, to run them occasionally. Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: TO THE PITCHFORKMOBILE! Benny Ohu wrote: fire up the argument calibrators set phasers to outraged overheat keyboards reinforce the thread Jenn aSide wrote: does anyone have any assless chaps I could borrow?
Webvan All Kill No Skill 13802	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:13:26 - [12] - Quote Widow77 wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: Widow77 wrote: I was just thinking we could collect some money to help pay for some basic provisions for the people that need shelter. Feel free to donate to the charity/organisation of your choice. I had a dream last night actually about winning the lottery. God told me he would help me win the lottery but i have to build some accomodation for refugees out of it. He told me if i do this i will prosper after the crisis has abated. (sorry for the spelling) Sounds like what some politicians say just before they take my money to give to their own charities to make themselves feel better... that they themselves give no money towards, or to anything, just from other peoples money. Being vague here to skirt under the political radar I'm in it for the money Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Spartan 005 Chaos From Order SpaceMonkey's Alliance 0	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:13:28 - [13] - Quote Im going to say no. Syria screwed themselves up. No country next to syria which are some of the richest gobeements in the world wont accept them. Our goverment and country is stetched to breaking point ywt we still have to take them in and give them free benifits and aid and local nhs treatment. We also know isis black cells are mixed in with them. No no no no no bloody no
Natural420 Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 4	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:28:03 - [14] - Quote Spartan 005 wrote: Im going to say no. Syria screwed themselves up. No country next to syria which are some of the richest gobeements in the world wont accept them. Our goverment and country is stetched to breaking point ywt we still have to take them in and give them free benifits and aid and local nhs treatment. We also know isis black cells are mixed in with them. No no no no no bloody no So i guess the Americans will be taking in thier fair share of the Syrian population then? along with the European countrys ? Being as they caused the mess in the first place ? Long live the 4th reich eh obama ?
Marsha Mallow 2470	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:31:49 - [15] - Quote Spartan 005 wrote: Im going to say no. Syria screwed themselves up. No country next to syria which are some of the richest gobeements in the world wont accept them. Our goverment and country is stetched to breaking point ywt we still have to take them in and give them free benifits and aid and local nhs treatment. We also know isis black cells are mixed in with them. No no no no no bloody no Not to single you out or anything, but this is exactly why CCP can't involve themselves in something so politically charged, and it's why we can't have a discussion about this here. This is a gaming forum, and political debates like this just wind people up. You have very good reasons for your comments, but they will upset people who are already upset over watching that refugee crisis unfold. Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: TO THE PITCHFORKMOBILE! Benny Ohu wrote: fire up the argument calibrators set phasers to outraged overheat keyboards reinforce the thread Jenn aSide wrote: does anyone have any assless chaps I could borrow?
Natural420 Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 5	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:37:25 - [16] - Quote Marsha Mallow wrote: Spartan 005 wrote: Im going to say no. Syria screwed themselves up. No country next to syria which are some of the richest gobeements in the world wont accept them. Our goverment and country is stetched to breaking point ywt we still have to take them in and give them free benifits and aid and local nhs treatment. We also know isis black cells are mixed in with them. No no no no no bloody no Not to single you out or anything, but this is exactly why CCP can't involve themselves in something so politically charged, and it's why we can't have a discussion about this here. This is a gaming forum, and political debates like this just wind people up. You have very good reasons for your comments, but they will upset people who are already upset over watching that refugee crisis unfold. if we cant talk about it with our most intellectual internet friends where can we talk about it ? This isn't going to go away. WE cant just bury our heads in the sand. I am fairly certain a good portion of the most intelligent people in the world play eve. I think this is one of the best places to discuss the matter.
Salvos Rhoska 1359	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:39:44 - [17] - Quote International powers that be (Western particularly) stuck their neck out on intervention in Libya against Gaddafi, as far as they could (and exclusive to air/navy support, no boots on the ground.) View the abstaining votes and speeches of certain Security Council states in the United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973, for more elucidation as to why the international community was politically unable to further involve itself in the Syrian issue in support of the revolt vs the al-Assad autocracy (before ISIS altogether). The Arab Spring managed to sweep the north african coast of autocratic rulers that had ruled for generations, but Syria came too late in the chain, and the West could not interfere in the Syrian Revolt, though the rebels dearly needed it and hoped for it. The West failed them in their attempt for freedom. And hence the situation is worse than ever, al-Assad still rules, and ISIS is now at the borders of a fractured nation. ------------
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 8419	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:40:53 - [18] - Quote Spartan 005 wrote: Our goverment and country is stetched to breaking point ywt we still have to take them in and give them free benifits and aid and local nhs treatment. Ah, hello Mr. Daily Mail reading Little Englander I believe UKIP owes you some thanks, sir [b]---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.[/b]
Webvan All Kill No Skill 13802	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:41:16 - [19] - Quote Natural420 wrote: Spartan 005 wrote: Im going to say no. Syria screwed themselves up. No country next to syria which are some of the richest gobeements in the world wont accept them. Our goverment and country is stetched to breaking point ywt we still have to take them in and give them free benifits and aid and local nhs treatment. We also know isis black cells are mixed in with them. No no no no no bloody no So i guess the Americans will be taking in thier fair share of the Syrian population then? along with the European countrys ? Being as they caused the mess in the first place ? Long live the 4th reich eh obama ? Um no, even the Russians have said his downfall was inevitable. There is room in Russia for them I would think, considering their long friendly history. I'm in it for the money Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Bumblefck Kerensky Initiatives 8419	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:41:42 - [20] - Quote Marsha Mallow wrote: Spartan 005 wrote: Im going to say no. Syria screwed themselves up. No country next to syria which are some of the richest gobeements in the world wont accept them. Our goverment and country is stetched to breaking point ywt we still have to take them in and give them free benifits and aid and local nhs treatment. We also know isis black cells are mixed in with them. No no no no no bloody no Not to single you out or anything, but this is exactly why CCP can't involve themselves in something so politically charged, and it's why we can't have a discussion about this here. This is a gaming forum, and political debates like this just wind people up. You have very good reasons for your comments, but they will upset people who are already upset over watching that refugee crisis unfold. Exactly [b]---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off.[/b]
Marsha Mallow 2471	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:44:30 - [21] - Quote Natural420 wrote: if we cant talk about it with our most intellectual internet friends where can we talk about it ? This isn't going to go away. WE cant just bury our heads in the sand. I am fairly certain a good portion of the most intelligent people in the world play eve. I think this is one of the best places to discuss the matter. Well talking about it might help. Player sites, corp/alliance forums? It actually is really upsetting and frustrating watching dead children being pulled out of the water. But CCP can't get involved and they probably shouldn't allow people to tear into each other on their official forum in frustration. I was talking to family about this today, and the internet is a powerful weapon for those of us with something to say. So we need to find somethere to say it that will make a difference. I'm looking atm tbh, news article comments show the same frustration. Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: TO THE PITCHFORKMOBILE! Benny Ohu wrote: fire up the argument calibrators set phasers to outraged overheat keyboards reinforce the thread Jenn aSide wrote: does anyone have any assless chaps I could borrow?
Estevan Valladares WorldTradersGuild.Com 11	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:45:28 - [22] - Quote Bumblefck wrote: Marsha Mallow wrote: Spartan 005 wrote: Im going to say no. Syria screwed themselves up. No country next to syria which are some of the richest gobeements in the world wont accept them. Our goverment and country is stetched to breaking point ywt we still have to take them in and give them free benifits and aid and local nhs treatment. We also know isis black cells are mixed in with them. No no no no no bloody no Not to single you out or anything, but this is exactly why CCP can't involve themselves in something so politically charged, and it's why we can't have a discussion about this here. This is a gaming forum, and political debates like this just wind people up. You have very good reasons for your comments, but they will upset people who are already upset over watching that refugee crisis unfold. Exactly You forget one truth: EVE is realGäó WorldTradersGuild.Com [WTG] - We are here for the long haul
Guttripper State War Academy Caldari State 624	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:45:56 - [23] - Quote Natural420 wrote: I am fairly certain a good portion of the most intelligent people in the world play eve. *fails at his attempt not to laugh out loud...
Widow77 State War Academy Caldari State 1	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:46:00 - [24] - Quote Marsha Mallow wrote: Natural420 wrote: if we cant talk about it with our most intellectual internet friends where can we talk about it ? This isn't going to go away. WE cant just bury our heads in the sand. I am fairly certain a good portion of the most intelligent people in the world play eve. I think this is one of the best places to discuss the matter. Well talking about it might help. Player sites, corp/alliance forums? It actually is really upsetting and frustrating watching dead children being pulled out of the water. But CCP can't get involved and they probably shouldn't allow people to tear into each other on their official forum in frustration. I was talking to family about this today, and the internet is a powerful weapon for those of us with something to say. So we need to find somethere to say it that will make a difference. I'm looking atm tbh, news article comments show the same frustration. Perhaps CCP should shut down Eve online untill the matter is resolved. In a mark of respect to the situation having World wide and far reaching consequences.
0bama Barack Hussein Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 72	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:47:47 - [25] - Quote +1 OP, agreed completely on this. Would gladly grind to donate. Salvos Rhoska wrote: Syria was embroiled, as it is now, in civil war well before ISIS even became a thing. The humanitarian crisis certainaly is huge, but the largest historically was Finlands diaspora out of Karelia, and Soviet conwuest territories in WWII, to which no nation responded or cared, and which most people today are unaware of. How and where exactly do you expect Plex for Good to affect the people fleeing Syria? In Iceland alone, 11,000 people have offered their home as a place to stay for refugees, despite the governments 50 limit. In Finland the prime minister has offered up his own home. I would like to correct as a Finn, and with Karelian heritage from my fathers side, that "only" at max. 500 000 people were relocated from Karelia to other parts of the Finland after WW2. Sure, about 15% of population, but there are *MILLIONS* of refugees now outside and inside of Syria. And if they won-¦t get help there, they will come seeking it from elsewhere.
Estevan Valladares WorldTradersGuild.Com 11	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:48:03 - [26] - Quote Guttripper wrote: Natural420 wrote: I am fairly certain a good portion of the most intelligent people in the world play eve. fails at his attempt not to laugh out loud... I couldnt . I fell down. WorldTradersGuild.Com [WTG]* - We are here for the long haul
Webvan All Kill No Skill 13803	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:49:05 - [27] - Quote Widow77 wrote: Marsha Mallow wrote: Natural420 wrote: if we cant talk about it with our most intellectual internet friends where can we talk about it ? This isn't going to go away. WE cant just bury our heads in the sand. I am fairly certain a good portion of the most intelligent people in the world play eve. I think this is one of the best places to discuss the matter. Well talking about it might help. Player sites, corp/alliance forums? It actually is really upsetting and frustrating watching dead children being pulled out of the water. But CCP can't get involved and they probably shouldn't allow people to tear into each other on their official forum in frustration. I was talking to family about this today, and the internet is a powerful weapon for those of us with something to say. So we need to find somethere to say it that will make a difference. I'm looking atm tbh, news article comments show the same frustration. Perhaps CCP should shut down Eve online untill the matter is resolved. In a mark of respect to the situation having World wide and far reaching consequences. Well they already shut down your identical thread in OOPE a few days ago, but here you are again but in GD and making demands that CCP shut down. Just go away bad-troll I'm in it for the money Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Marsha Mallow 2471	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:50:52 - [28] - Quote Widow77 wrote: Perhaps CCP should shut down Eve online untill the matter is resolved. In a mark of respect to the situation having World wide and far reaching consequences. We could all go on hunger strike too, until all of the problems in the world are fixed. And sit around congratulating each other on a point well made. Or, we could go fix some of them. Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: TO THE PITCHFORKMOBILE! Benny Ohu wrote: fire up the argument calibrators set phasers to outraged overheat keyboards reinforce the thread Jenn aSide wrote: does anyone have any assless chaps I could borrow?
Natural420 Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 5	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:53:24 - [29] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: International powers that be (Western particularly) stuck their neck out on intervention in Libya against Gaddafi, as far as they could (and exclusive to air/navy support, no boots on the ground.) View the abstaining votes and speeches of certain Security Council states in the United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973, for more elucidation as to why the international community was politically unable to further involve itself in the Syrian issue in support of the revolt vs the al-Assad autocracy (before ISIS altogether). The Arab Spring managed to sweep the north african coast of autocratic rulers that had ruled for generations, but Syria came too late in the chain, and the West could not interfere in the Syrian Revolt, though the rebels dearly needed it and hoped for it. The West failed them in their attempt for freedom. And hence the situation is worse than ever, al-Assad still rules, and ISIS is now at the borders of a fractured nation. America effectivly rendered the United nations null and void by undermining their requests not to intervene in the middle east. America took matters into thier own hands and dismantled Several Middle eastern states including, most notably, Iraq and Libya. United nations no longer has power to act as a force in the world and i beleive this is the key reason Russia is so pissed with the Americans. Un being the main peace keeping force after the League of nations(ww1) The short end of it is that Your statement is irrelevent and mis informed(tho bettr typed out than my own)
Salvos Rhoska 1359	Posted - 2015.09.05 20:54:26 - [30] - Quote 0bama Barack Hussein wrote: I would like to correct as a Finn, and with Karelian heritage from my fathers side, that "only" at max. 500 000 people were relocated from Karelia to other parts of the Finland after WW2. Sure, about 15% of population, but there are *MILLIONS* of refugees now outside and inside of Syria. And if they won-¦t get help there, they will come seeking it from elsewhere. Moi, I am also a Finn. 15% of the population in Syria vs nearly 100% of the regions population in terms of the Karelian evacuation. Magnitude aside, Syria could have been having its first free elections in two generations right now had the international community intervened in favor of the rebels at the onset of the revolution, against al-Assad. Instead, years later, Syria is still in civil war, and now ISIS is right on its borders and motivating/recruiting since the rest of the world failed to intervene against al-Assad, and help the revolution when they needed it most. ------------

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