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Da Maddness
45th TIGERS
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Posted - 2006.12.15 02:36:00 -
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I would LOVE the option of having the new map and the old one. I would be using the old one way more often as it's so much easier to see and plan your route but I fear people will ***** if the new one is gone.
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Roemy Schneider
BINFORD
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Posted - 2006.12.15 02:37:00 -
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wouldn't use "suck" here, either... but yes, a few details could be changed of which all, i believe, have already been mentioned
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Briggand Moore
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Posted - 2006.12.15 05:57:00 -
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I most often use the map just to adjust my waypoints (add an intermediate waypoint right before lowsec so I can travel afk) For this, I don't even want the map, just the list of waypoints. The new map takes at least as long to transition as the old one, so for me its just as much of a pain. It's prettier, but that doesn't concern me much.
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Unknown Subject
Sound of Silence
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Posted - 2006.12.15 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Omega Vistage signed... can't stand how when I move my cursor across the map I get huge pop-ups with the system information interfering with my view.
i know its like the new map was made by AOL
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Tiger Tamer
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Posted - 2006.12.15 06:41:00 -
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Bugs aside, I don't think it's too bad.
I want the route summary back, though. The list of systems on the left that said how many jumps and showed secury ratings of every system. Why did they even remove that?
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Thor Xian
Vertigo One E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.12.15 06:47:00 -
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The new map designer must have been previously employed at Microsoft. It's unnecessarily cluttered, hard to navigate, and jacks up the overall efficiency of using the features with quirky little graphical detailwork that doesn't actually make it work better.
Basically, it sucks and needs to be changed. Hire Rand McNally.
~Thor Xian, Chief Administrator
"For all your Material Needs, Vertigo One."
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.15 07:22:00 -
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give us back our purple background! 
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Lorn Yeager
Gallente Blessed Souls
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Posted - 2006.12.15 08:23:00 -
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Its not that I hate it. It doesnt suck either.
Its just got... annoying to use. A small pain of "wait" and "what do I do now".
Usability is low, if things have to go a little fast its horrible to have to with with animations, and then the wrong orientation. Also, when in the map and want to get back to space, it takes a good few seconds before you have shipcontrol agaiin. This should be instant.
Questions:
ò the animation, why is it there? its a timesink. Like all in-between animations you get sick of them with time. ò when selecting autopilot "route settings" (shorter, safer, unsafer) it doenst update the waipoints. Have to set new destination first. ò the zoom out button in space, why is it starting up the system map? Not good.
Again, its not really usable. Too many small "butpains" and wierd solutions. Its a tool, it has to work without too much fuss.
Actually I have the same feeling about the new map, as the one I have about TV commercials: Pretty but... ugh
Begin sig: //->
Its Aloha time!
Lorn Yeager Blessed Souls
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Mortok Tristan
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Posted - 2006.12.15 08:30:00 -
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It would be nice if we could configure the auto-pilot without having to open the map or have an item at the destination so we can click "set destination" in the asset window.
The map takes way to long to open to quickly investigate a specific solarsystem.
I also hate the fact that as you zoom out, the statistics colors ( like avg pilot in space ) fade out... so you end up seeing nothing when your in full zoom out mode.
This map is definitly a step backward, too fancy for its purpose, a bit like contracts window, for the moment the most usefull view in contracts is the SortBy "Simple View" option which looks exactly like escrow, except column sorting is alphabetical for prices...
I expect many patches to come...
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Gibbah
Caldari S-44 Tre Kroner
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Posted - 2006.12.15 08:48:00 -
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I love the idea about the new map, but as it is now it does not work. A map should be fast and easy to orientate with. It takes time even to close the darn thing  It needs tweeeking, tweeking, tweeeking, tweeking, and then some....
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Ndubs
Amarr Privateers
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Posted - 2006.12.15 08:51:00 -
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/signed.
The balance between working and looking great has been compromised. It perhaps could have been made to look better. but it is so disfunctional now. There's nothing more infuriating than having to wait for your camera to zoom all the way out and back in to flick between map and game.
Can't we have an option to turn this off ffs?
The scanner as well. I can see absolutely NO REASON AT ALL for them removing the planetary view.
I just don't know what the hell goes through these guys heads sometimes.
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Zodric
The Flying Tigers Distant Star Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.15 08:51:00 -
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/signed
The map is useless now, it just takes forever to open it... i really really hate it and you cant say it often enough... REMOVE THAT !"#%ñ%# ZOOM |

MrLobster
Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.15 08:55:00 -
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My only complaint is sort of related to the seemless map, the fact that once focused on an object (in normal view not the map), and you unfocus the object it takes 2-3 seconds to return focus to your ship. Which is a lot longer than it was before Revelations. ______
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Edison Frisk
Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.15 08:57:00 -
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old map 4tw! Its especially annoying as it takes so long to load up and close, by the time its finished farting around I could be scouted down and end up in a pod.
Its just to cumbersome, the old map was much clearer. Also the zoom in and out, can you change the right control key and wheelie mouse function as it is the button I use to actvate TS, so when I am at a gate and use the zoom button while finding a suitable bit of the gate to 'jump' if I speak at the same time on TS it opens up the map.
In a nutshell, the map is annoying, bring back the old style.
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Lorn Yeager
Gallente Blessed Souls
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Posted - 2006.12.15 09:24:00 -
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Problems or not, but the really good stuff is only really noticed once its gone.
I think that sums it up. There was nothing wrong with the old map, people used it and hardly noticed it. Now, I dont dare open the map if Im not 100% sure Im not in any danger (read: docked).
Imagine 0.0 raids where destinations are changed quite alot ... its terrifying. Begin sig: //->
Its Aloha time!
Lorn Yeager Blessed Souls
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill Blood Raiders Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.15 09:26:00 -
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agreed go back to the old map _________________________________________
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2006.12.15 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: Thor Xian The new map designer must have been previously employed at Microsoft. It's unnecessarily cluttered, hard to navigate, and jacks up the overall efficiency of using the features with quirky little graphical detailwork that doesn't actually make it work better.
You are doing Microsoft injustice here. At least in Windows, you can turn off most of the useless eye candy and they generally have very good user interfaces (not a horrible mix of modal/non-modal/moveable/non-moveable windows, buttons all over the place, right click pulldown menus for the most frquently used stuff - instead of keyboard commands - like EVE).
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rig0r
Arcane Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.15 09:51:00 -
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I wouldn't say it sucks, it has some nifty new stuff in. What annoys me though is the speed of it. It is not as snappy as it used to be which is annoying if you want to check or set something quickly.
Creator of eve-killboard.net. Get the killboard here.
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Itcharo Wu
Free-Space-Ranger Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:05:00 -
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/signed
Please add an Option to the map menu ("classic look") to make the old map available again.
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DarkPanther
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:07:00 -
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/signed a million times
I hate it the whole thing with the zooming out then when you close the map it zooms in , all unnecessary in my opinion . Why did ccp change it what was wrong with the old map it was perfect it worked so why mess things up 
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Fubear
Vogon Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:14:00 -
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Instant transitions... aren't.
Also bring back the mini map on the directional scanner, or some way to see your scan cone.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:17:00 -
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/signed
/signed
/signed
I hate the new map and those dots are ugly, even though I'm used to them now, they are still ugly
Give us option to DISABLE it ... please? No need to remove it, just make option to disable it. PLEASE?    "It's great being Amarr, ain't it?Ö"
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Katamarino
Blazing Angels Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:22:00 -
[53]
Signed. Bring back the minimap on the system scanner (WHY was it removed in the first place!?), and get rid of these stupid map animations that serve no purpose whats-so-ever and merely lag the game and waste my time!
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Khyle
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:32:00 -
[54]
/signed
Points id like to stress:
- the wiggling and turning on opening and closing is a real pain, even on instant - using it to navigate or get infos, WHAT A MAP IS FOR, is really painful and unintuitive at times, due to orientation, the lines problem, ...
Overall its an overloaded gimmick(and a real nightmare at times), but what we need is an elegant and powerful tool, as simple as possible. The old map was far more elegant and easier, faster and more efficient to use.
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TerrorWOLF
J.H.E.N.R Pure.
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:47:00 -
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The mew map is fun to look at the 1st few times, but then gets boring really fast especially if you have to use it often. System map is useful nothing to say about it, maybe the transition same as with galaxy map.
Solution would be keep the + - buttons like they are now and change the map button on the menu bar so it opens the old flattened out or a "NEW" only flat map where system aren't so close together that you cant click the one you want.
May Your Death Be Slow And Painful
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Kojirochan
The Flaming Sideburn's
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Posted - 2006.12.15 10:51:00 -
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The new map is all show and no go. Its takes quite a bit longer to pla na route, and check for example ships kills/jumps etc
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DarkPanther
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Khyle /signed
Overall its an overloaded gimmick(and a real nightmare at times), but what we need is an elegant and powerful tool, as simple as possible. The old map was far more elegant and easier, faster and more efficient to use.
/signed again ;-)
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Zubakis
Bambooule
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Posted - 2006.12.15 11:46:00 -
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/signed
GIVE ME MY ZOOMOUT BUTTON BACK!!!
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Volar Kang
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Posted - 2006.12.15 13:13:00 -
[59]
/signed
The new map makes me cry 
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Sphynx Stormlord
Gallente Anqara Industries Serenus Letum
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Posted - 2006.12.15 13:19:00 -
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Some of the settings on the map dont work properly: Show corperation members in space: doesnt appear to work at all. Show my assets: lists the number of assets in each system when you mouse over it, rather than the previously more useful list of assets in the system.
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