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Caleb Paine ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.17 02:23:00 - [61] owned -------------------------------- ISS Navy Task Force; Protecting your interest.
FemmeFatal Control Theory	Posted - 2006.12.17 02:25:00 - [62] Originally by: Butter Dog Come off it, you havent 'fought ISS', you've camped a few gates, sniped a few ships, and killed some NPC'ing ravens with recon groups. Effective pirating, yes, but try seiging one of our outposts and see how far you get. Triumverant didn't exactly siege an ISS outpost, but they did put up a POS in EC-P8R if I recall correctly. ISS then in an assault on said POS lost what 3 dreads and ended up having to call in MC to take down the pos?
Nitrogendixoide	Posted - 2006.12.17 07:44:00 - [63] Originally by: FemmeFatal Triumverant didn't exactly siege an ISS outpost, but they did put up a POS in EC-P8R if I recall correctly. ISS then in an assault on said POS lost what 3 dreads and ended up having to call in MC to take down the pos? I seem to remember Tri attacking their POS but NEC showing up to help out ISS in their defense. We even managed to keep the tower from going into reinforced mode.
IntegralHellsing Gallente The Raven Warriors	Posted - 2006.12.17 09:25:00 - [64] Originally by: Butter Dog Come off it, you havent 'fought ISS', you've camped a few gates, sniped a few ships, and killed some NPC'ing ravens with recon groups. Effective pirating, yes, but try seiging one of our outposts and see how far you get. huh? what if they fought back?! wouldn't that turn the whole 'pirating' into 'fighting'?! ps. Yeah, ISS never seize to amaze me. They won't fight unless they can gank, they won't fight unless they have carrier support, they can't fight so they just call on mercenaries. (me still remembers the days back in ISS when ISS had to call some mercenaries cuz ISS couldn't get things done :P) ------------------------------
quellious COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.12.17 09:38:00 - [65] Just a little comment about ISS model (neutrality, or non-political). I understood that ISS main concept was to deploy outpost in some 0.0 region with region owner agreement. Idea being to provide a neutral industrial background. (I personnally liked that idea). However, i see 2 issues with that: - By deploying some industry in a region, you recognize region ownership to the guys that claim to control it. Almost every pilot constesting this claim would see ISS as an hostile entity. - Some time to time, region ownership changes, and the new owner may not want to allow you to use the 0.0 region. Unfortunatly you cannot unanchor an outpost and move it to a different region. It mean that you act as a force willing stability, and you may appear as hostile for any new conquering forces. Time going further, you find ISS being hostile for more and more conquering forces (military forces i'd say). Without trying to convice anyone but me, i'd say that neutrality would meant recognize new claims fast, and to give outposts whenever previously installed forces are not able to protect your POS agains invaders. You might then offer your services to the new owners (like pos fuelling, industry backbone, ....). Economic point: Some time to time the new owner may not want to use your services, and the outpost construction cost is loss. A good investements analysis should allow to set outposts in places which are stable enough to ensure that, taking all outpost into account, losing an outpost from time to time due to region instability doesn't break your economic model. - > Order Falcon & Pilgrim > Colsup
Jack Sigma Caldari Extinction Level Event	Posted - 2006.12.17 09:39:00 - [66] Originally by: IntegralHellsing Originally by: Butter Dog Come off it, you havent 'fought ISS', you've camped a few gates, sniped a few ships, and killed some NPC'ing ravens with recon groups. Effective pirating, yes, but try seiging one of our outposts and see how far you get. huh? what if they fought back?! wouldn't that turn the whole 'pirating' into 'fighting'?! ps. Yeah, ISS never seize to amaze me. They won't fight unless they can gank, they won't fight unless they have carrier support, they can't fight so they just call on mercenaries. (me still remembers the days back in ISS when ISS had to call some mercenaries cuz ISS couldn't get things done :P) Thanks for the info on ISS, coming from a serial troller like you it must be true
babycow Amarr Obliteration Unlimited R i s e	Posted - 2006.12.17 11:29:00 - [67] Moo so ISS is getting owned ...i feel its time to come and help...as some of issn leaders knows when i left issn i predicted that iss will stay up for 2 more months max and that time is about to end .
Urethra Franklin	Posted - 2006.12.17 11:35:00 - [68] Originally by: Torshin I know all i have done is quote a single post, ill try and add some more quotes but I am going to have to leave out the posters names for their protection "Someone needs to communicate to us how to get them then. I have been sitting in a shuttle in ISS Marginis for two nights with no ships I can fly available. When I asked in ISS Marginis channel there were 85 pilots in channel and the only response I got was a suggestion to try another region." "its basicly like this for most northerns: YOU ARE ORDERED to come south to assist in the war ! North player: right, i'd better head down there... North player: ok im here and ready to help South FC: you are too young - we dont trust you North player: ok im here and ready to help South FC: North player: hey guys! im here as ordered where do you want me South FC: North player: ok im here and ready to help South FC: no ships around - get one from empire / another region North player: right, back to PB where im wanted and apreciated" " have to agree with the post above. I've tried hard to help one or two out but there are no T1 frigs available, nobody will give them comms info for fear of inviting a spy in, so they are on their own and the next thing is you see a KM and they've died. TBH it's a wonder any have stayed down south as long as they have. Correct me if I am wrong, but I am pretty sure that most pilots will pass one or two vendors of tech 1 frigs when travelling from the north to the south... Surely!
Mynas Atoch Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.17 12:01:00 - [69] Originally by: babycow Moo so ISS is getting owned ...i feel its time to come and help...as some of issn leaders knows when i left issn i predicted that iss will stay up for 2 more months max and that time is about to end . Yarr! Are you coming down south to play, babycow? Or sticking to griefing their northern industrialists? btw, RISE? wtf!?!? Myn
babycow Amarr Obliteration Unlimited R i s e	Posted - 2006.12.17 12:08:00 - [70] Ya myn will ask 1 of my alts if wana come down there and have some fun
Dekiri Exanimo Inc	Posted - 2006.12.17 12:09:00 - [71] Edited by: Dekiri on 17/12/2006 12:09:27 yay! i am posting in an EX ISSN thread! o/ guys! --------------------------------- Exanimo Inc. - Mercs for hire Join channel "CONTRACT EXAN" in game if you wish to hire Exanimo Inc. for your war! My dad can beat up your dad!
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.17 12:29:00 - [72] Originally by: babycow Moo so ISS is getting owned ...i feel its time to come and help...as some of issn leaders knows when i left issn i predicted that iss will stay up for 2 more months max and that time is about to end . We have lost quite a few T1 frigates, and did think of disbanding the alliance as we couldnt maintain the logistics, but we struggle onward!
slave111 Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2006.12.17 12:34:00 - [73] Originally by: CFC Fodder I will say that Tor's character (Torshin) is his main. I've played with him for 4 months or so, probably longer. this is no place for sexual preference discussions! ------------------------------------------------ Minority report:Father Tommaso Caccini denounced Galileo's opinions on the motion of the Earth, judging them dangerous and close to heresy
Buzee Flight Of Fantasy	Posted - 2006.12.17 12:47:00 - [74] Can someone please update on the f4r status, I am very intrested.who and what parties are now involved and will this be the end of MC (no NSN or TC) as a relevant 0.0 deciding force? Will we see more alliances coming to join the slugfest and can we see if we can break the eve server (over 400 in local from other threads promising to climb way beyond jita!)
insanebe Caldari soni Corp Imperium Sonorumance	Posted - 2006.12.17 12:52:00 - [75] ah the old days of tech 1 frig suicide gangk squads .....the memories knowledge is power.... guard it well
Butter Dog ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.17 13:11:00 - [76] Originally by: Buzee Can someone please update on the f4r status, I am very intrested.who and what parties are now involved and will this be the end of MC (no NSN or TC) as a relevant 0.0 deciding force? Will we see more alliances coming to join the slugfest and can we see if we can break the eve server (over 400 in local from other threads promising to climb way beyond jita!) tbh, I think lag will be the main story
Robbie Boozecruise Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.17 13:54:00 - [77] .... placed so that i can reply a good reply when the thread is finished
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.17 19:11:00 - [78] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: babycow Moo so ISS is getting owned ...i feel its time to come and help...as some of issn leaders knows when i left issn i predicted that iss will stay up for 2 more months max and that time is about to end . We have lost quite a few T1 frigates, and did think of disbanding the alliance as we couldnt maintain the logistics, but we struggle onward! That's not giving any credit to IAC. You guys have lots much more than just frigates and you know it. It looks poorly when you go on about iac bship losses while not acknowledging the fact that before mc showed up ISS fleets were wiped out quite easily.
Nhaz The Praxis Initiative Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.19 07:39:00 - [79] Edited by: Nhaz on 19/12/2006 07:40:08 Edited by: Nhaz on 19/12/2006 07:39:53 omg.. Praxis. mentioned not once, but twice. woot ! ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ It's NOT paranoia, If they REALLY ARE out to get you!
digitalwanderer Gallente The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.22 16:07:00 - [80] Originally by: Layla Currie Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: babycow Moo so ISS is getting owned ...i feel its time to come and help...as some of issn leaders knows when i left issn i predicted that iss will stay up for 2 more months max and that time is about to end . We have lost quite a few T1 frigates, and did think of disbanding the alliance as we couldnt maintain the logistics, but we struggle onward! Quote: That's not giving any credit to IAC. You guys have lots much more than just frigates and you know it. It looks poorly when you go on about iac bship losses while not acknowledging the fact that before mc showed up ISS fleets were wiped out quite easily. Yup,a couple of carriers flushed down the toilet,at least as far as capital ships go....
Buxaroo Constructive Influence	Posted - 2006.12.22 16:26:00 - [81] Originally by: Mynas Atoch Originally by: babycow Moo so ISS is getting owned ...i feel its time to come and help...as some of issn leaders knows when i left issn i predicted that iss will stay up for 2 more months max and that time is about to end . Yarr! Are you coming down south to play, babycow? Or sticking to griefing their northern industrialists? btw, RISE? wtf!?!? Myn lol Myn whats wrong with rise?
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2006.12.22 16:56:00 - [82] Edited by: Victor Vision on 22/12/2006 16:56:34 Originally by: digitalwanderer Originally by: Layla Currie Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: babycow Moo so ISS is getting owned ...i feel its time to come and help...as some of issn leaders knows when i left issn i predicted that iss will stay up for 2 more months max and that time is about to end . We have lost quite a few T1 frigates, and did think of disbanding the alliance as we couldnt maintain the logistics, but we struggle onward! Quote: That's not giving any credit to IAC. You guys have lots much more than just frigates and you know it. It looks poorly when you go on about iac bship losses while not acknowledging the fact that before mc showed up ISS fleets were wiped out quite easily. Yup,a couple of carriers flushed down the toilet,at least as far as capital ships go.... Digitalwanderer in an alliance? Hard to believe I missed that one till this post of yours, and it seems you left the scope since 3 months already. You were so fond of being a vet in an NPC corp I never thought I would see this happen. So, better late than never, I say welcome to 0.0 politics, digitalwanderer. Best of luck to you, VV In my business there is no black, nor white. Just a million different shades of grey.
digitalwanderer Gallente The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.22 18:16:00 - [83] Originally by: Victor Vision Edited by: Victor Vision on 22/12/2006 16:56:34 Originally by: digitalwanderer Originally by: Layla Currie Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: babycow Moo so ISS is getting owned ...i feel its time to come and help...as some of issn leaders knows when i left issn i predicted that iss will stay up for 2 more months max and that time is about to end . We have lost quite a few T1 frigates, and did think of disbanding the alliance as we couldnt maintain the logistics, but we struggle onward! Quote: That's not giving any credit to IAC. You guys have lots much more than just frigates and you know it. It looks poorly when you go on about iac bship losses while not acknowledging the fact that before mc showed up ISS fleets were wiped out quite easily. Yup,a couple of carriers flushed down the toilet,at least as far as capital ships go.... Digitalwanderer in an alliance? Hard to believe I missed that one till this post of yours, and it seems you left the scope since 3 months already. You were so fond of being a vet in an NPC corp I never thought I would see this happen. So, better late than never, I say welcome to 0.0 politics, digitalwanderer. Best of luck to you, VV Thanks,it's been a long while since i've been involved in an aliance and with that comes wars,paranoia,backstabbing and backroom politics....Spices the game up for me..
solarwinds ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.22 19:25:00 - [84] Originally by: Layla Currie Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: babycow Moo so ISS is getting owned ...i feel its time to come and help...as some of issn leaders knows when i left issn i predicted that iss will stay up for 2 more months max and that time is about to end . We have lost quite a few T1 frigates, and did think of disbanding the alliance as we couldnt maintain the logistics, but we struggle onward! That's not giving any credit to IAC. You guys have lots much more than just frigates and you know it. It looks poorly when you go on about iac bship losses while not acknowledging the fact that before mc showed up ISS fleets were wiped out quite easily. Actually, just to clarify, it wasn't being posted about IAC, but rather RISE, who love to gank solo ISS ships. IAC has accomplished more in the first 10 minutes of this conflict than RISE has since they formed.

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