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Torshin
TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2006.12.16 05:24:00 -
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ISS is facing internal strife in relation to the recent external threats caused by IAC. Count has called for ISSO operations which are basically all hand on deck, and due to the lack of order within ISS FC many of the non-navy/praxis members are becoming quite upset that they are forced to sit in POS bubbles while FC argues over what to do. ISS managments response to these concerns raised by ISS member corps is that IAC represents a clear and present danger and that they either participate or leave ISS.
This being said I wonder why ISS has stressed their resources by planting POSs in IAC space and why they don't just concentrate on the defense of their own outpost systems? This isn't a debate about whether ISS is neutral, this is a debate about the tactical descisions of ISS. |

DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.16 05:25:00 -
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Edited by: DHB FooFighter on 16/12/2006 05:25:35 post with your main 
edit: for spelling 
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FishtheMoose
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Posted - 2006.12.16 05:31:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter Edited by: DHB FooFighter on 16/12/2006 05:25:35 post with your main 
edit: for spelling 
:lol: speling them wurds is tuff 
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Torshin
TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2006.12.16 05:35:00 -
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post with my main? are you serious?
Tardation Tests free of charge for those who sign up soon. |

DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.16 05:38:00 -
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Originally by: Torshin post with my main? are you serious?
It was a joke mate. most of this stuff is posted by alts. i was trying to be light hearted and jolly, sheesh.
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Torshin
TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2006.12.16 05:38:00 -
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K i just wasn't sure you never know being in a corp called Tardz and an alliance called GONADs
Tardation Tests free of charge for those who sign up soon. |

CFC Fodder
Gallente TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2006.12.16 05:39:00 -
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I will say that Tor's character (Torshin) is his main. I've played with him for 4 months or so, probably longer.
Originally by: Arian Snow "GTC for ISK" promotes farming of isk to pay for your character those isk underminde the economy and creates inflation!!! Its like printing money in RL...
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BlackHorizon
Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.16 05:39:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter
Originally by: Torshin post with my main? are you serious?
It was a joke mate. most of this stuff is posted by alts. i was trying to be light hearted and jolly, sheesh.
/Slaps Foo.
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Layla Currie
Followers Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.16 05:57:00 -
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well i know conin would like to come play but they need deja's approvel first 
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IntegralHellsing
Gallente The Raven Warriors
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Posted - 2006.12.16 05:57:00 -
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Welcome... to the POS warfare, ISS. Oh, that also includes sitting in POS 23/7. ------------------------------
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Layla Currie
Followers Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.16 07:06:00 -
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it's nice to see mc run and log
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.16 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: DHB FooFighter
Originally by: Torshin post with my main? are you serious?
It was a joke mate. most of this stuff is posted by alts. i was trying to be light hearted and jolly, sheesh.
Really ? Couldn't have failed more miserably then 
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FowlPlayChiken
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.16 07:57:00 -
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Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 16/12/2006 07:57:44 and you are?
bawk!
Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
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Layla Currie
Followers Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.16 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: FowlPlayChiken Edited by: FowlPlayChiken on 16/12/2006 07:57:44 and you are?
bawk!
obviously he is Torshin from the corp TARDZ and in the alliance Gods of Night and Day. Gosh noob learn to read!  
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Raid
Caldari Tyrell Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.16 08:43:00 -
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Hang on...why is this a bad tactical decision? Putting up POS's in an enemies system that happens to live next door and is declaring war on you. Their taking the fight to the enemy instead of sitting back and waiting for the enemy to attack them... Advantage generally goes to the attacker most of the time...
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Fartimus Prime
Fart Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.16 09:27:00 -
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Originally by: Raid Hang on...why is this a bad tactical decision? Putting up POS's in an enemies system that happens to live next door and is declaring war on you. Their taking the fight to the enemy instead of sitting back and waiting for the enemy to attack them... Advantage generally goes to the attacker most of the time...
Take it from an expert 
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.16 09:50:00 -
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Because we're about to launch a massive invasion of the South, starting with IAC! ISS are finally going to reveal themselves as conquerers of the galaxy, and set forth to unleash a plague of fire and furious vengeance across the known universe. The tin-foil-hat brigade were right all along! Tremble in fear, ye mortals for the day of judgement is upon you all!
(Not an official ISS post in case anyone is wondering ) --------------------------------------------------------------------
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GO MaZ
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.16 09:55:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly Because we're about to launch a massive invasion of the South, starting with IAC! ISS are finally going to reveal themselves as conquerers of the galaxy, and set forth to unleash a plague of fire and furious vengeance across the known universe. The tin-foil-hat brigade were right all along! Tremble in fear, ye mortals for the day of judgement is upon you all!
(Not an official ISS post in case anyone is wondering )
So you ARE all BoB alts then 
Lacks eve related content. Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) Lacks pretty pink text. MaZ ([email protected]) |

SSgt Sniper
Gallente Zekarus Ltd.
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Posted - 2006.12.16 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: GO MaZ
Originally by: ReaperOfSly Because we're about to launch a massive invasion of the South, starting with IAC! ISS are finally going to reveal themselves as conquerers of the galaxy, and set forth to unleash a plague of fire and furious vengeance across the known universe. The tin-foil-hat brigade were right all along! Tremble in fear, ye mortals for the day of judgement is upon you all!
(Not an official ISS post in case anyone is wondering )
So you ARE all BoB alts then 
Post of the day. --------- Gallente need ONE ship with an ecm bonus option. JUST ONE. |

Exogene
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Posted - 2006.12.16 10:45:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly Because we're about to launch a massive invasion of the South, starting with IAC! ISS are finally going to reveal themselves as conquerers of the galaxy, and set forth to unleash a plague of fire and furious vengeance across the known universe. The tin-foil-hat brigade were right all along! Tremble in fear, ye mortals for the day of judgement is upon you all!
(Not an official ISS post in case anyone is wondering )
Having seen you in combat i can say that at least you got some humor   
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Vestalia Gaea
The Echelon
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Posted - 2006.12.16 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: ReaperOfSly Because we're about to launch a massive invasion of the South, starting with IAC! ISS are finally going to reveal themselves as conquerers of the galaxy, and set forth to unleash a plague of fire and furious vengeance across the known universe. The tin-foil-hat brigade were right all along! Tremble in fear, ye mortals for the day of judgement is upon you all!
(Not an official ISS post in case anyone is wondering )
Invasion using mercenary corps? That never works, and you guys are way too loose and don't have any proper army to sustain attacking more than an enemy 5 to 10 times smaller than you on your own. Sorry but the joke in your post is only making fun of you guys
'A disorderly mob is no more an army than a heap of building materials is a house.' |

Admentus Cor'vion
Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.16 11:08:00 -
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How about people who have a score to settle?
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Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve.
"The end and the beginning."
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.16 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: James Lyrus on 16/12/2006 11:38:51
Originally by: Exogene
Originally by: ReaperOfSly Because we're about to launch a massive invasion of the South, starting with IAC! ISS are finally going to reveal themselves as conquerers of the galaxy, and set forth to unleash a plague of fire and furious vengeance across the known universe. The tin-foil-hat brigade were right all along! Tremble in fear, ye mortals for the day of judgement is upon you all!
(Not an official ISS post in case anyone is wondering )
Having seen you in combat i can say that at least you got some humor   
Reaper represents the elite sucide squad of ISS. He starts the self destruct as soon as he sees red in local, in a fearsome move of killmail denial. This is a flawless tactic, as opponents are only rarely fast enough to kill us in time. So far he has participated in hundreds of suicide attacks, and has many many killmails from ships blowing up.
For Great Justice!'
Soon this master stroke ISS tactic will be unleashed upon the world, and we will dominate the world with recovered mods and salvaged components from our own ships.
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Chi Prime
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.16 11:47:00 -
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Edited by: Chi Prime on 16/12/2006 11:48:01 "War is the only game in which it doesn't pay to have the home-court advantage." - John Richard Motta
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Gothikia
Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.16 13:17:00 -
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Edited by: Gothikia on 16/12/2006 13:17:22
Originally by: ReaperOfSly Because we're about to launch a massive invasion of the South, starting with IAC! ISS are finally going to reveal themselves as conquerers of the galaxy, and set forth to unleash a plague of fire and furious vengeance across the known universe. The tin-foil-hat brigade were right all along! Tremble in fear, ye mortals for the day of judgement is upon you all!
(Not an official ISS post in case anyone is wondering )
sok, even if it was i'd still lol at you and call you a noob... kill you then give you props for trying  _________________________
Originally by: L'Ron Hubbard only the power of Xenu can fix EVE!
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Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.16 13:23:00 -
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Taking the fight to your enemies turf is always a good thing, am surprised you needed it pointed out.
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Butter Dog
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.16 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Torshin ISS is facing internal strife in relation to the recent external threats caused by IAC. Count has called for ISSO operations which are basically all hand on deck, and due to the lack of order within ISS FC many of the non-navy/praxis members are becoming quite upset that they are forced to sit in POS bubbles while FC argues over what to do. ISS managments response to these concerns raised by ISS member corps is that IAC represents a clear and present danger and that they either participate or leave ISS.
This being said I wonder why ISS has stressed their resources by planting POSs in IAC space and why they don't just concentrate on the defense of their own outpost systems? This isn't a debate about whether ISS is neutral, this is a debate about the tactical descisions of ISS.
To put this in perspective;
One person in the alliance made a forum post with some perfectly reasonable questions regarding ISSO sanctioned ops. After an explination from ISS Management, they pledged full support in the war.
ISS is more united than at any point in its history, so you'll have to try better than this :)
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Halafian
The Graduates
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Posted - 2006.12.16 14:57:00 -
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Edited by: Halafian on 16/12/2006 15:00:11
Originally by: GO MaZ
Originally by: ReaperOfSly Because we're about to launch a massive invasion of the South, starting with IAC! ISS are finally going to reveal themselves as conquerers of the galaxy, and set forth to unleash a plague of fire and furious vengeance across the known universe. The tin-foil-hat brigade were right all along! Tremble in fear, ye mortals for the day of judgement is upon you all!
(Not an official ISS post in case anyone is wondering )
So you ARE all BoB alts then 
Or maybe it's the other way around....
edit: okay, I admit it: I am SirMolle. I'm just roleplaying a mediocre carebear here.
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ReaperOfSly
Gallente Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.16 17:06:00 -
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Originally by: Halafian Edited by: Halafian on 16/12/2006 15:00:11
Originally by: GO MaZ
Originally by: ReaperOfSly Because we're about to launch a massive invasion of the South, starting with IAC! ISS are finally going to reveal themselves as conquerers of the galaxy, and set forth to unleash a plague of fire and furious vengeance across the known universe. The tin-foil-hat brigade were right all along! Tremble in fear, ye mortals for the day of judgement is upon you all!
(Not an official ISS post in case anyone is wondering )
So you ARE all BoB alts then 
Or maybe it's the other way around....
Wheels within wheels within wheels.  --------------------------------------------------------------------
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Verone
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.12.16 17:38:00 -
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Well, I never thought I'd see myself defending ISS in a forum post but here goes...
Veto, and myself personally have never been on the best of terms with ISS, we've never liked them and never really felt the urge to help them out. In fact, we've gone out of our way to kill or attempt to kill their members on many occasions.
Recently Count came to me with an offer for a contract, and being mercs our corporation took it up. ISK alone dictates where we point our guns, no morals other than close personal friends we will refuse to engage unless it's self defense (FZN this means you ).
Even while contracted and on their payroll, I still disagree completely with the ISS "Neutrality" claim, and would like to see ISS simply make it perfectly clear without any doubt that they won't allow anyone to put their assets, and the assets of their shareholders at risk.
No one can be neutral in Eve when they put so much at risk deploying outposts in 0.0 space.
That said, the OP is totally wrong.
You talk of internal strife in ISS, I've been logged into teamspeak and Ventrilo with them taking part in ops and doing my part, I've never seen an alliance in such high spirits and working together so well as a team even with outsiders involved.
Everyone knows the goal, how to get there and the teamwork and effort that has gone into what I've seen so far has been awesome. ISS leadership has been well organised co-ordinating the several entities that are fighting in catch on their side, and to be honest if you think the resources of an alliance as wealthy and well organised as ISS appear to be from a temporary ally's point of view are even remotely stretched dropping a few towers here and there, then you couldn't be more wrong.
I've always thought of ISS as one of the underdogs in terms of offensive capability, meaning a small amount of dedicated pvp time with an immense industrial backbone, but after seeing what they're capable of putting together and with what speed, it's changed my opinion massively.
I'm still not huge fan of the stance of ISS, even while contracted. My corp are simply doing a job, nothing more but I can tell you, Stretched? Internal Strife?, these two things the Interstellar Starbase Syndicate are definatley not feeling.
Warming up would be a more appropriate statement.
VETO FOR HIRE
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