Why do all the ccp fleets have to be killed by the large corporations. Like they need the isk and the dropped items.
CCP show up in systems that do not have these large corporations, such as looserswarm,northerblahcoalition, pathetic legion and so forth..
What a waste.

So you missed first event in Tama and raging right? Or you was scared to show up in low-sec?
I've been there on my sniper Cane, shoot some people and survived not even in fleet.
Stop being a crybaby FFS.

So you missed first event in Tama and raging right? Or you was scared to show up in low-sec?
I've been there on my sniper Cane, shoot some people and survived not even in fleet.
Stop being a crybaby FFS.

ah, you mean the one that was hotdropped by a super fleet.
This is EVE... where if you're not in a 1000-man alliance, CCP expects you to GTFO.

So they probably must PVP in high-sec? "Hey dude pick up our jettison container for PVP"?
Or they just should send you a PLEX and NEX item for being hopeless disabled carebear?

So they probably must PVP in high-sec? "Hey dude pick up our jettison container for PVP"?
Or they just should send you a PLEX and NEX item for being hopeless disabled carebear?

ah, you mean the one that was hotdropped by a super fleet.

This is EVE... where if you're not in a 1000-man alliance, CCP expects you to GTFO.

Just another in-game thing meant for the big boys. Nothing to see here, move along.

This statement is so untrue that I feel bad even answering it.

Here is the deal, the fleet is moving over the next few days and you are ALL welcome to engage. It is not for the big boys or the small boys or the medium boys: it is for everyone.

I am really sorry that you cannot organize a fleet or join one who that is effective against us. Be a leader and make EVE what you want it to be.

This statement is so untrue that I feel bad even answering it.

Here is the deal, the fleet is moving over the next few days and you are ALL welcome to engage. It is not for the big boys or the small boys or the medium boys: it is for everyone.

I am really sorry that you cannot organize a fleet or join one who that is effective against us. Be a leader and make EVE what you want it to be.

This statement is so untrue that I feel bad even answering it.

Here is the deal, the fleet is moving over the next few days and you are ALL welcome to engage. It is not for the big boys or the small boys or the medium boys: it is for everyone.

I am really sorry that you cannot organize a fleet or join one who that is effective against us. Be a leader and make EVE what you want it to be.

Or cynojam the system. Problem solved.

Be a leader and make EVE what you want it to be.

This statement is so untrue that I feel bad even answering it.

Here is the deal, the fleet is moving over the next few days and you are ALL welcome to engage. It is not for the big boys or the small boys or the medium boys: it is for everyone.

I am really sorry that you cannot organize a fleet or join one who that is effective against us. Be a leader and make EVE what you want it to be.

Doh!

That's going to leave a nasty ego bruise.

Why do all the ccp fleets have to be killed by the large corporations. Like they need the isk and the dropped items.
CCP show up in systems that do not have these large corporations, such as looserswarm,northerblahcoalition, pathetic legion and so forth..
What a waste.

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This statement is so untrue that I feel bad even answering it.

Here is the deal, the fleet is moving over the next few days and you are ALL welcome to engage. It is not for the big boys or the small boys or the medium boys: it is for everyone.

I am really sorry that you cannot organize a fleet or join one who that is effective against us. Be a leader and make EVE what you want it to be.

You just said PL and years of unchallenged moon income.

Risk vs Reward - period

Perhaps the ironic thing here is that for anyone that remembers the original CCP events team - events (back when Eve was only 10k 15k online) there were similar complaints that the same people were always getting the loot from the events because they made it their business to lurk in the events channels and would quickly relocate to where all the shinies were. But ultimately, it was players flying pimped ships doing the intel work up that put them in the right time and place.

I can tell you from experience though that little guys do sometimes get lucky. Old corp mate of mine managed to snag one of the only Opus Luxury yachts in existence from an event to celebrate the launch of quafe ultra and that was just a matter of being in the right place at the right time and swooping in for the loot.

I do understand its dispiriting to see these CCP fleets that *always* seem to be harvested by PL and their 0.0 allies and it looks fishy - but you need to look past that really as a simple reality of the server at the moment. PL is the Eve aristocracy and when something shiny appears they will come down with their golden chariots and hunt with ivory bows like the kings and queens of old. Thats just fact and the outcome of multiple years of unchallenged moon income etc and static 0.0 napfest. There isn't much anyone can do about *that*.

But what you can do is get into a cheap clone, prep a lootstealing cloaky vessel (bomber will do nicely) and listen to the same rumours PL do. Put PL fleet commanders and personalities in your location agents. Listen to the news, inflitrate pirate intel channels. Travel fast to the site of battles and prepare to steal the loots from under PL noses with a ship that costs less than then ammo they are using.

Ordinary capsuleers (you and me) are the rats in the wainscotting of this dystopian world. The huge alliances have no respect for individuality and seek only conformity and slavish obedience from their drones. We individuals are beneath their notice and that gives us an opportunity to thieve and steal and sabotage from under the gaze of these space-kings and jealous tyrants.

Rather than whining on the forums that things are not fair (nothing is fair) go prep your loot stealing vessels and swap to a cheap clone. Swarm these engagements and steal plex and bpcs out from the grasping fingers of the aristrocracy and toast your larcenary from the shrouding darkness of the cloak while the gods of eve lament the presence of insects to steal their prizes.

But understand this. To PL and their 0.0 nap allies you are nothing. You will never be respected or accepted or dealt a fair hand. Eve is a cruel and unkind universe. So learn the arts and techniques you need to survive and prosper despite the reign of burnished tyrants that rule these stars from their immortal moon-goo empires.

Your victory little loot ninja is your continued existence and drawing breath on the morrow.

And for that I at least salute you and call you my comrade at arms.

PL/TEST were never there for the loot. We go where the fights are end of story. It is also well known that we operate with an NBSI policy just like most 0.0 alliances. It has nothing to do with lack of respect for any other player in the game it is simply PvP. Thinking otherwise is just selfish.

Why is it selfish to consider you members of a distant uncaring aristrocracy that have no care or concern for the rats in the wainscotting of Eve? I see that outlook as pure surivival mechanism and a function of wising up to the way things are. If PL/TEST is not there for the loot (true or not) it makes no difference to the dynamic I espouse. Anyone whining about these matters would be best advised to take a minor risk (clone+cheap bomber) and go loot thieving and steal from the divine immortals of the 0.0 napfests to demonstrate their independence to the server at large.

Your leaders think only in terms of 100s and 1000s of followers. To them we individuals are nothing. Beneath contempt or notice. So be it, I merely say use that dynamic to urge the pathetic individuals of eve to steal from the god-kings and chariot-warriors of 0.0 and laugh at the ranks of power.

Confirming PL join fights for jewlewts.

Confirming PL is 1%

Also confirming pubbie scrubs are mad.

Why is it selfish to consider you members of a distant uncaring aristrocracy that have no care or concern for the rats in the wainscotting of Eve? I see that outlook as pure surivival mechanism and a function of wising up to the way things are. If PL/TEST is not there for the loot (true or not) it makes no difference to the dynamic I espouse. Anyone whining about these matters would be best advised to take a minor risk (clone+cheap bomber) and go loot thieving and steal from the divine immortals of the 0.0 napfests to demonstrate their independence to the server at large.

Your leaders think only in terms of 100s and 1000s of followers. To them we individuals are nothing. Beneath contempt or notice. So be it, I merely say use that dynamic to urge the pathetic individuals of eve to steal from the god-kings and chariot-warriors of 0.0 and laugh at the ranks of power.

Why dont you run another tournament agains garmon about it?

This statement is so untrue that I feel bad even answering it.

Here is the deal, the fleet is moving over the next few days and you are ALL welcome to engage. It is not for the big boys or the small boys or the medium boys: it is for everyone.

I am really sorry that you cannot organize a fleet or join one who that is effective against us. Be a leader and make EVE what you want it to be.

This statement is so untrue that I feel bad even answering it.

Here is the deal, the fleet is moving over the next few days and you are ALL welcome to engage. It is not for the big boys or the small boys or the medium boys: it is for everyone.

I am really sorry that you cannot organize a fleet or join one who that is effective against us. Be a leader and make EVE what you want it to be.

the simple truth is we know that even if we tryed that the big allences would blob any meaning full fleet before it got anywere near you.

I'm a pubbie scrub and the event was for me. Second time in null, and travelling to 7Y was itself an exhilarating adventure, through countless camps and abandoned battlefields swarmed with wrecks.

Saw CCP pwn a fleet, watching all those battleships go at each other was really cool.

Couldn't care less about the loots, ISK is abundant in EVE, just grab yours anyway you prefer and stop whining. All I wanted was to be there, and I was.

the simple truth is we know that even if we tryed that the big allences would blob any meaning full fleet before it got anywere near you.

Ohh you are so tuff...that scar makes you look so tuff..
what should i do.lol..its because of scary people like you I do not go to low or null sec..rolf.

This statement is so untrue that I feel bad even answering it.

Here is the deal, the fleet is moving over the next few days and you are ALL welcome to engage. It is not for the big boys or the small boys or the medium boys: it is for everyone.

I am really sorry that you cannot organize a fleet or join one who that is effective against us. Be a leader and make EVE what you want it to be.

Ordinary capsuleers (you and me) are the rats in the wainscotting of this dystopian world. The huge alliances have no respect for individuality and seek only conformity and slavish obedience from their drones. We individuals are beneath their notice and that gives us an opportunity to thieve and steal and sabotage from under the gaze of these space-kings and jealous tyrants.

This exactly.

I couldn't care less about the rewards, maybe if the event was in Amarr, I might undock and try to scoop something. I do care that CCP is hopelessly beholden to 0.0 power blocks. Not only because of inherent bias, through the fact that their CSM is all goons, but because the majority of their alts are deeply involved in these 0.0 alliances. This large reward to certain 0.0 entities amounting to a mini , extralegal T20 incident, dev corruption and interference with the sandbox.

You just said PL and years of unchallenged moon income.

I couldn't care less about the rewards, maybe if the event was in Amarr, I might undock and try to scoop something. I do care that CCP is hopelessly beholden to 0.0 power blocks. Not only because of inherent bias, through the fact that their CSM is all goons, but because the majority of their alts are deeply involved in these 0.0 alliances. This large reward to certain 0.0 entities amounting to a mini , extralegal T20 incident, dev corruption and interference with the sandbox.

I couldn't care less about the rewards, maybe if the event was in Amarr, I might undock and try to scoop something. I do care that CCP is hopelessly beholden to 0.0 power blocks. Not only because of inherent bias, through the fact that their CSM is all goons, but because the majority of their alts are deeply involved in these 0.0 alliances. This large reward to certain 0.0 entities amounting to a mini , extralegal T20 incident, dev corruption and interference with the sandbox.

You're all assuming we're getting all of this phat lewtz that CCP is dropping. We haven't got **** except really good fights.

GF CCP
m8m8m8o7o7o7o7

(...) CCP is doing its best to rid any risk aspect from hisec by removing the insurance for gankers. (...).

Congratulations, you already got more than what we get in hisec.

Considering only the more hardcore players (yep even carebears like me can be "kinda" hardcore) are reading this forum its rather obvious how one sided this "christmas event" really is. Where is the problem in designing a small nice event everybody can take part in with little rewards for everybody who bothers joining? Instead have one massive thing rolling with presents worth 10 years of birthday, christmas and easter put together for a small group of perfectly organized 0.0 PvP geeks?

Its just the old story all over again, these people thinking they are better and deserve more because they play Eve just THIS WAY. And guess what? Events like these just alianate these guys from the normal Eve player and the majority of the playerbase.

Considering only the more hardcore players (yep even carebears like me can be "kinda" hardcore) are reading this forum its rather obvious how one sided this "christmas event" really is. Where is the problem in designing a small nice event everybody can take part in with little rewards for everybody who bothers joining? Instead have one massive thing rolling with presents worth 10 years of birthday, christmas and easter put together for a small group of perfectly organized 0.0 PvP geeks?

Its just the old story all over again, these people thinking they are better and deserve more because they play Eve just THIS WAY. And guess what? Events like these just alianate these guys from the normal Eve player and the majority of the playerbase.

The problem is that he point of EVE isn't for CCP to reach out and say "here's todays content".

People who want to ignore the forums and do their own thing, let them. People who actually get involved, reap the rewards.

And yes, people who play in certain ways will have advantages in certain situations. If you're looking for perfectly fair all the time, consider HKO.

Im not looking for fair and I know most people confuse the word with another one, namely: equal. For the last 1-2 years now CCP is actively patching to force people to enter low and 0.0 sec and making highsec and playing solo more unattractive. What for? Where is the harm in having players play the safe way? Im not a person who wants to be involved in PvP or exposed to PvP situations 24/7 and I also dont want to be reliant on other players 24/7. Eve always was a game for many playstyles and that makes the sandbox so great. Recently that changed, either you give in and go to 0.0 or you are laughed at and belittled at every opportunity. Just check this thread and the commentary from most, its not even objective, its just mean on a very basic level.

I want to be treated equal as a customer! My money and monthly fee is just as good as that from any 0.0 player.
And mind you CCP, there are more players like me in Eve Online than PLs, Goons or whatever. Maybe not in the forum, but in the game in general. Drop you obsession with the 0.0 bunch and show some love to those people that pay the bigger part of your bills. ;)

Im not looking for fair and I know most people confuse the word with another one, namely: equal. For the last 1-2 years now CCP is actively patching to force people to enter low and 0.0 sec and making highsec and playing solo more unattractive. What for? Where is the harm in having players play the safe way? Im not a person who wants to be involved in PvP or exposed to PvP situations 24/7 and I also dont want to be reliant on other players 24/7. Eve always was a game for many playstyles and that makes the sandbox so great. Recently that changed, either you give in and go to 0.0 or you are laughed at and belittled at every opportunity. Just check this thread and the commentary from most, its not even objective, its just mean on a very basic level.

I want to be treated equal as a customer! My money and monthly fee is just as good as that from any 0.0 player.
And mind you CCP, there are more players like me in Eve Online than PLs, Goons or whatever. Maybe not in the forum, but in the game in general. Drop you obsession with the 0.0 bunch and show some love to those people that pay the bigger part of your bills. ;)

Let me guess, you too feel that Crucible did nothing for you, just some nice shiny and pvp/null content, but no gameplay for hisec soloers? Because if you think so, then you're welcome to my club.

dear ccp navigator,
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carebears huddling in high sec simply deserve less because they are not playing the game to its fullest.

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Why do all the ccp fleets have to be killed by the large corporations. Like they need the isk and the dropped items.
CCP show up in systems that do not have these large corporations, such as looserswarm,northerblahcoalition, pathetic legion and so forth..
What a waste.

So you missed first event in Tama and raging right? Or you was scared to show up in low-sec?
I've been there on my sniper Cane, shoot some people and survived not even in fleet.
Stop being a crybaby FFS.

The NC still exists? I thought the only coalitions left were Goons etc and the Drone Russians, with a smattering of independent alliances.

Who decides how to play a game to it's fullest? In a sandbox there is no 'right' or 'wrong' ; 'full' or 'empty' way, you can create for yourself what YOU want and it's full for you. On the beach when I was young sometimes me and my sistersand brothers would dig giant holes which went down to the water and cover them with a blanket and some sand so people would fall in, sometimes we built little castles ect. Complete opposite, both fun and good at the time.

CCP rewarding their 0.0 alliance mates and CSM buddies because they think living in a perpetual circle jerk is the 'right' way to play the game is inherently wrong.

It's not as if 0.0 is even interesting to most players anyway (or they would live there). Are the supers what make it so interesting and praise/reward worthy? The blobs? The napfests? It's a matter of opinion and that's my point. Some people like that **** (obviously some CCP devs) It's nothing which CCP as a company should show favoritism over. It only shows corruption and bias.

carebears huddling in high sec simply deserve less because they are not playing the game to its fullest.

You seem to take the impression that I am making a judgement about who deserves what, well I am not I am just pointing out that in a sand box a player can choose how he wants to play.

Or cynojam the system. Problem solved.

Last time I checked the map high sec was more dangerous than 0.0

(as if hiding in no mans land ratting behind vast intel networks would be dangerous.. what did I expect vOv)

Yeah, when Padro drives his van to the playground, the candy isn't for the little children its for everyone, he's there for everyone. It doesn't matter that he went to a child's playground. Here's the deal, the van is moving over the next few days and EVERYONE is welcome. I'm really sorry you can't take the time out of your schedule to come to the playground, that's your fault.

duuuurrr

This logic is so sound and the average person is brilliant.

Highsec kiddies have it all - literally. They have concord. No bubbles, and now with incursions, highsec is even more profitable then 0.0 space.

And they still whine that they arnt getting enough. lol.

I'm convinced highsec kiddies wont be happy untill eve is like sisi

Highsec kiddies have it all - literally. They have concord. No bubbles, and now with incursions, highsec is even more profitable then 0.0 space.

And they still whine that they arnt getting enough. lol.

I'm convinced highsec kiddies wont be happy untill eve is like sisi

And give away free T2 BPOs to perfectly organized 0.0 alliances definetly is a kick in the groin for any average Eve player.

This statement is so untrue that I feel bad even answering it.

Here is the deal, the fleet is moving over the next few days and you are ALL welcome to engage. It is not for the big boys or the small boys or the medium boys: it is for everyone.

I am really sorry that you cannot organize a fleet or join one who that is effective against us. Be a leader and make EVE what you want it to be.

Here is the deal, the fleet is moving over the next few days and you are ALL welcome to engage

The travel restrictions in "the sandbox" are a big hindrance. I could imagine, say, Star Wars with EvE gates. If Mos Eisley was nullsec, the Millennium Falcon would have been caught up in a suck bubble long before Luke hired the ship out.

ftfy. Also, the Millenium Falcon WAS caught up in a suck-bubble long before Luke hired them. Only reason they got away is because of Falcon. Unless you were referring to sling-bubbles in EVE, in which case Han has bookmarks.

Srsly though, I highly suggest you read "Millennium Falcon" by James Luceno. It delves into the famous ship's history in the universe. It skips over much of Han's ownership, though, since that's completely covered by other books/the movies.

This is a very huge problem in the game. Location is everything and it's not just about a live event. Look at all of the threads centered on the great Highsec versus Nullsec debate. Lack of movement induced by the gate mechanics, bubbles, and camp mechanics, makes your statement stand out.


Sure, we can participate, IF we could get there. And I think there is possibly a lack of understanding or experience on this. I don't know if CCP is aware of how hard travel in EvE really is, and how that hinders the game. Sure, the nulldwellers say, "get another account and train up a scout". But any game where the only way to make it is to double your sub cost feels like a scam. So I gotta double my sub cost because of people who have nothing to do all day but wait for others to arrive so they can blow them up? That makes me want to resist an extra sub at all costs.


The travel restrictions in "the sandbox" are a big hinderence. I could imagine say Star Wars with EvE gates. If Moss Isley was nullsec, the Millenium Falcon would have been caught up in a suck bubble long before Luke hired the ship out.

Why do all the ccp fleets have to be killed by the large corporations. Like they need the isk and the dropped items.
CCP show up in systems that do not have these large corporations, such as looserswarm,northerblahcoalition, pathetic legion and so forth..
What a waste.

This statement is so untrue that I feel bad even answering it.

Here is the deal, the fleet is moving over the next few days and you are ALL welcome to engage. It is not for the big boys or the small boys or the medium boys: it is for everyone.

I am really sorry that you cannot organize a fleet or join one who that is effective against us. Be a leader and make EVE what you want it to be.

But understand this. To PL and their 0.0 nap allies you are nothing. You will never be respected or accepted or dealt a fair hand. Eve is a cruel and unkind universe. So learn the arts and techniques you need to survive and prosper despite the reign of burnished tyrants that rule these stars from their immortal moon-goo empires.

Your victory little loot ninja is your continued existence and drawing breath on the morrow.

(please feel free to stop by btw!).

Do you realize how ignorant this makes you look in a single post?

You are literally mad about rumors, things that aren't even fact.

The fact is:

1) Yesterday CCP had a single ship that had some t2 BPC's, t1 BPO's (that are available for purchase in highsec), and a few plex. I literally have dropped motherships who dropped more loot on the field.

2) That wreck was bombed before anybody could loot it, so in reality, none of the loot was actually taken home by anybody.


So you're all bunged up posting about something that DIDN'T EVEN HAPPEN.





Doesn't it make you wonder about how much of the rest of your post is based in fictional beliefs?

I think people are tired of the 0.0 alliances getting these loot pinitas

This statement is so untrue that I feel bad even answering it.

Here is the deal, the fleet is moving over the next few days and you are ALL welcome to engage. It is not for the big boys or the small boys or the medium boys: it is for everyone.

I am really sorry that you cannot organize a fleet or join one who that is effective against us. Be a leader and make EVE what you want it to be.