Originally by: MECHcore

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So they brought the lameness to a whole new lvl , first their forumwarriors each day in all topics and now this , sad tbh

I hope you can sort it out.

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Originally by: Nashoo

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Yeah thats actually not us.

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Originally by: Lord XSiV

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How do you know it is bob pilots?

Stop blaming them for your ignorance. You basically hand out access like the easter bunny hands out candy so quit blaming them. Anyone, their dog, cat, hampster and other fauna have access so filter out those entities before you start throwing accusations around. You already do a disservice to DDC who provides the service by not following simply acceptable use practices. From my understanding one of your own was booting legit users so maybe you might want to start there to find the root of the problem.

Also, stop blaming them for your incompetance. It is bad enough you got unskilled pilots filing petitions for ship losses when they claimed to be within pos shields when they so obviously weren't.

Then again, it will take a while for people to get Cyvok's standard 'petition everything' philosophy out of their game play.....

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Originally by: Boci

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At the risk of being labeled fanboi, unless said TS spammers are proven in some way to actually be affiliated with BoB, why point fingers? Unless you are just bored and actually want a flame war, since thats all the accusation will result in.

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Originally by: RedClaws

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Ok how do we know its bob pilots : they were using [DICE] and [EVOL] tags in their names also BoBRules and CyvokSucks**** were seen.

This leads me to believe they were bob pilots yes. If its not you doing it then don't feel assaulted

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Originally by: RedClaws

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Ok how do we know its bob pilots : they were using [DICE] and [EVOL] tags in their names also BoBRules and CyvokSucks**** were seen.

This leads me to believe they were bob pilots yes. If its not you doing it then don't feel assaulted

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Originally by: RedClaws

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Ok how do we know its bob pilots : they were using [DICE] and [EVOL] tags in their names also BoBRules and CyvokSucks**** were seen.

This leads me to believe they were bob pilots yes. If its not you doing it then don't feel assaulted

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Originally by: kublai

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Originally by: RedClaws

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Ok how do we know its bob pilots : they were using [DICE] and [EVOL] tags in their names also BoBRules and CyvokSucks**** were seen.

This leads me to believe they were bob pilots yes. If its not you doing it then don't feel assaulted

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This is a bob forum alt and I just wanted to say [insert something to make bob look like retarted children here]

If this is the officiall belief of ASCN, you guys deserve every loss you get because quite frankly anyone who believes these accusation based on THAT is a blithering idiot.

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Originally by: RedClaws

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Edited by: RedClaws on 16/12/2006 20:47:52

Edit: Could an ISD please lock this? I has turned into a flamefest much sooner than expected.

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Originally by: RedClaws

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Edited by: RedClaws on 16/12/2006 20:47:52
Ok how do we know its bob pilots : they were using [DICE] and [EVOL] tags in their names also BoBRules and CyvokSucks**** were seen.

This leads me to believe they were bob pilots yes. If its not you doing it then don't feel assaulted.

Edit: Could an ISD please lock this? I has turned into a flamefest much sooner than expected.

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Originally by: RedClaws

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Edited by: RedClaws on 16/12/2006 20:47:52
Ok how do we know its bob pilots : they were using [DICE] and [EVOL] tags in their names also BoBRules and CyvokSucks**** were seen.

This leads me to believe they were bob pilots yes. If its not you doing it then don't feel assaulted.

Edit: Could an ISD please lock this? I has turned into a flamefest much sooner than expected.

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Originally by: Marogian

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If someone says "Stop hacking our TS" in a local channel with ONLY BoB in it and then someone logs onto our TS and says "[name] you're an idiot" etc its fairly clear that at least one of the people is in BoB.

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Originally by: Marogian

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If someone says "Stop hacking our TS" in a local channel with ONLY BoB in it and then someone logs onto our TS and says "[name] you're an idiot" etc its fairly clear that at least one of the people is in BoB.

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Originally by: Marogian

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If someone says "Stop hacking our TS" in a local channel with ONLY BoB in it and then someone logs onto our TS and says "[name] you're an idiot" etc its fairly clear that at least one of the people is in BoB.

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Originally by: kublai

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Originally by: Marogian

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If someone says "Stop hacking our TS" in a local channel with ONLY BoB in it and then someone logs onto our TS and says "[name] you're an idiot" etc its fairly clear that at least one of the people is in BoB.

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To be fair, you ARE an idiot.

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Originally by: Imperil

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Originally by: Lord XSiV

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How do you know it is bob pilots?

Stop blaming them for your ignorance. You basically hand out access like the easter bunny hands out candy so quit blaming them. Anyone, their dog, cat, hampster and other fauna have access so filter out those entities before you start throwing accusations around. You already do a disservice to DDC who provides the service by not following simply acceptable use practices. From my understanding one of your own was booting legit users so maybe you might want to start there to find the root of the problem.

Also, stop blaming them for your incompetance. It is bad enough you got unskilled pilots filing petitions for ship losses when they claimed to be within pos shields when they so obviously weren't.

Then again, it will take a while for people to get Cyvok's standard 'petition everything' philosophy out of their game play.....

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Looking for freedom?

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Read my post. I know its BoB. They are the only ones knowing I was talking in local about their TS hacking, and promptly one of the hackers came in with my name in a derogatory sentence.

What more proof do you want?

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Originally by: King Dingelding

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yeah,
whenever ascn sucks, its bobs fault. maybe its just this guy in jita:

Insideman > WTS ASCN TS+PASS FOR 200 mill convo me

?!

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Originally by: ASCN Member

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Mr Testy > mabee next year i can meet some bob at fanfest and beat them up

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Originally by: RedClaws

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Edited by: RedClaws on 16/12/2006 20:47:52
Ok how do we know its bob pilots : they were using [DICE] and [EVOL] tags in their names also BoBRules and CyvokSucks**** were seen.

This leads me to believe they were bob pilots yes. If its not you doing it then don't feel assaulted.

Edit: Could an ISD please lock this? I has turned into a flamefest much sooner than expected.

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Read my post. I know its BoB.

What more proof do you want?

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Originally by: King Dingelding

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yeah,
whenever ascn sucks, its bobs fault. maybe its just this guy in jita:

Insideman > WTS ASCN TS+PASS FOR 200 mill convo me

?!

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Originally by: LordChaos

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Edited by: LordChaos on 16/12/2006 21:14:38

Originally by: King Dingelding

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yeah,
whenever ascn sucks, its bobs fault. maybe its just this guy in jita:

Insideman > WTS ASCN TS+PASS FOR 200 mill convo me

?!

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you know whats funny?

is all you non ASCN BOB replying like u know whats going on

when BoB goes for your alliance next the same thing will be said about your alliance when you talk about stuff like that :)

have fun kissing up to BoB they love that :)

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Seriously guys, this is hilarious, don't stop it please.


On teh other hand, do you really think someone infiltrating your TS would be so stupid to wear his corp tags when doing so ? I mean, c'mon, we're evil, not stupid.

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Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion

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Any moron with the password can join your ts server and shout abuse. Get a grip ffs.

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion

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Any moron with the password can join your ts server and shout abuse. Get a grip ffs.

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You're calling your alliance mates morons here I guess...

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Quote:

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Read my post. I know its BoB.

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Seriously guys, this is hilarious, don't stop it please.


On teh other hand, do you really think someone infiltrating your TS would be so stupid to wear his corp tags when doing so ? I mean, c'mon, we're evil, not stupid.

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Rod, please explain this to me:

I say in local: BoB, stop hacking our TS. All that is in local is ASCN and BoB.

20 seconds later, someone enters TS with the tag '[my name] sucks .... '

How can it not be BoB?




And indeed it is amazing how fast the BoB forum warrior squad is being deployed to try to defuse any damage to their precious reputation. Your forumwhoring speed continues to amaze me.

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion

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Any moron with the password can join your ts server and shout abuse. Get a grip ffs.

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You're calling your alliance mates morons here I guess...

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Originally by: Lord Draco

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Quote:

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Read my post. I know its BoB.

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I'm still waiting for the proof of your CCP-BOB conspiricy. About the only thing I ever see from you are ufounded accusations tbqh.

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Originally by: kublai

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion

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Any moron with the password can join your ts server and shout abuse. Get a grip ffs.

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You're calling your alliance mates morons here I guess...

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See this is why so many people join bob's side in these threads, true or not, ASCN just beg for flames, it's not so much I support bob, as I just plain think ASCN are acting like children in this war, and on the forums.

It's like a blind man, screaming "go left, can't you see the tree in the road?"

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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...please explain this to me:

I say in local: BoB, stop hacking our TS. All that is in local is ASCN and BoB.

20 seconds later, someone enters TS with the tag '[my name] sucks .... '

How can it not be BoB?

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Originally by: Lord XSiV

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Originally by: kublai

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion

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Any moron with the password can join your ts server and shout abuse. Get a grip ffs.

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You're calling your alliance mates morons here I guess...

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See this is why so many people join bob's side in these threads, true or not, ASCN just beg for flames, it's not so much I support bob, as I just plain think ASCN are acting like children in this war, and on the forums.

It's like a blind man, screaming "go left, can't you see the tree in the road?"

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Oh yeah QFT. And those of who aren't childish get lamblasted internally when we speak the truth....

Not too hard to figure out why one would get a bit frustrated if they are smarter than the average guinee pig.

As for once again veiled threats, complaining to ISPs for people joining a publicly accessable internet service is just another cry. You see ASCN continues to perform their 'blame everyone else' tactics. I am just wondering when they are going to wake up and realize that they don't work.

Too bad it will most likely be too late as the lack of integrity to this point combined with the previous leader's strategic ignorance are just a bit to much to compensate for at this point.

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Originally by: snerdly

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All you BoB, and BoB fanclub that are denying the charges and calling ASCN stupid need to take a step back and look at this in perspective. Given the evidence that ASCN had provided, assuming that it is true, is it more likely that it's BoB or random nonaffiliated people repeatedly hacking/spamming their TS?

<skips>

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Originally by: LordChaos

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So tell me Lord XsiV

in that war what did u do to help your alliance ? and what did it not do to u?

from the BoB killboard

u only lost an Apoc and your pod

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Originally by: Trinity Faetal

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you let unregistered ppl have all-round acces on your ts ? i dont see why you're complaining if this isnt the situation here, a simple reg only acces would solve this would it not

or is bob using superadminwtfhaxor111! tools to log into your teamspeak and have acces to all your channels act like tards ?

seriosuly i do not see how this can't be prevented easily.

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Originally by: Cryus Aphax

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This is pathetic and sadly shows how downhill the eve community is going.

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Originally by: VonKaplanek III

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Originally by: Cryus Aphax

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This is pathetic and sadly shows how downhill the eve community is going.

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Heres the real truth....

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Originally by: VonKaplanek III

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Originally by: Cryus Aphax

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This is pathetic and sadly shows how downhill the eve community is going.

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Heres the real truth....

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Originally by: Righteous Fury

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I see Malachon Dracon still can't answer a simple question. There were both ASCN and BOB in local when you made your comment, how can you prove it wasn't another ASCN pilot doing it?

I'd really like to see your proof positive.

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Originally by: VonKaplanek III

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Originally by: Cryus Aphax

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This is pathetic and sadly shows how downhill the eve community is going.

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Heres the real truth....

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Originally by: Gungankllr, CYVOK resignation post

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Add to this the downward spiral of Eve over the last year, and I can understand why he stepped down.

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Seriously guys, this is hilarious, don't stop it please.


On teh other hand, do you really think someone infiltrating your TS would be so stupid to wear his corp tags when doing so ? I mean, c'mon, we're evil, not stupid.

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Rod, please explain this to me:

I say in local: BoB, stop hacking our TS. All that is in local is ASCN and BoB.

20 seconds later, someone enters TS with the tag '[my name] sucks .... '

How can it not be BoB?

And indeed it is amazing how fast the BoB forum warrior squad is being deployed to try to defuse any damage to their precious reputation. Your forumwhoring speed continues to amaze me.

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Definite proof? Unfortunately thats like having to prove Santa Claus doesn't exist, not possible.

But I'll leave it to the Eve-community to decide whether what happened was proof enough that indeed BoB were involved in this.

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Originally by: thoth foc

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It didnt even take the op 2 pages to work out the reason everyone's laughing/whatever here....

try harder..

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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What you're saying is like the defense lawyer for a *****suspect saying that she had it coming because she wore tight jeans and a skimpy t-shirt...

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Originally by: Tzrailasa

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Originally by: VonKaplanek III

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Originally by: Cryus Aphax

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This is pathetic and sadly shows how downhill the eve community is going.

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Heres the real truth....

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Yeah, I agree. It's pretty pathetic when alliances starts throwing accusations around in all directions but never provides any proof (/me points a big stick in the general direction of ASCN, somehow seeming to point it straight at Malachon Draco)....

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Originally by: Righteous Fury

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I see Malachon Dracon still can't answer a simple question. There were both ASCN and BOB in local when you made your comment, how can you prove it wasn't another ASCN pilot doing it?

I'd really like to see your proof positive.

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Definite proof? Unfortunately thats like having to prove Santa Claus doesn't exist, not possible.

But I'll leave it to the Eve-community to decide whether what happened was proof enough that indeed BoB were involved in this.

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Originally by: RedClaws

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Edited by: RedClaws on 16/12/2006 20:36:00
Goodday,

BoB pilots please quit shouting, screaming, singing, whispering and insulting people on our (ASCN) Teamspeak.

If you want to spy we can't stop you but please quit this. It's not fun.

We have banned over 20 of you guys now but you just keep comming back using different IP's.

I'm asking you friendly to stop abusing our TS, what will be next? DoS'ing the server?

It's still a game , let's play it that way. There's no need to insult me or any of my family over this and certainly not shouted to me over teamspeak.

Thank you
RedClaws

Edit: I'm posting this here not to create any sort of discussion or flame but this is the only way i have of communicating with them. So please if you don't have anything to say don't respond. Thanks

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Seriously guys, this is hilarious, don't stop it please.


On teh other hand, do you really think someone infiltrating your TS would be so stupid to wear his corp tags when doing so ? I mean, c'mon, we're evil, not stupid.

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Rod, please explain this to me:

I say in local: BoB, stop hacking our TS. All that is in local is ASCN and BoB.

20 seconds later, someone enters TS with the tag '[my name] sucks .... '

How can it not be BoB?

And indeed it is amazing how fast the BoB forum warrior squad is being deployed to try to defuse any damage to their precious reputation. Your forumwhoring speed continues to amaze me.

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Hmm, explain to me then Lalachon baby.

Look at this piccy someone posted on this forum:
http://www.eve-files.com/media/0612/Image2.jpg

Do you see how several people used tags like "[insert random forum whoring ASCN member here] is an idiot" ?

Did all of those happen to ask BoB memebrs in their local about the ts griefing not a minute before those invaders entered your ts server ?

What, no ? But, how can that be ? Obviously someone entering ascn's ts server with a nick designed specifically to insult ascn's most rabid forum-active delusionalist is irreputable proof of BoB's involvement and could never be coincidental at all seeing the numerous other forum active delusionalists being insulted in similar manner.


Sorry if that sounds harsh (no I'm not, but anyway), but you seriously need to get a grip there.

Oh, and if you hadn't noticed that I'm quite oftne present on these forums after seeing me post all over the place for three years you must have been looking elsewhere. One has to pass ones' time when warping around from kill to kill.

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Originally by: LordChaos

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its funny how u say that , and when BoB throws accusations or that something was an ANOMOLY when they lose a fight... when BoB says it then its not pathetic right?

dont mind me just understanding how things work

continue with your lovely posts everyone :)

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Originally by: LordChaos

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its funny how u say that , and when BoB throws accusations or that something was an ANOMOLY when they lose a fight... when BoB says it then its not pathetic right?

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Originally by: RedClaws

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Edited by: RedClaws on 16/12/2006 20:36:00
Goodday,

BoB pilots please quit shouting, screaming, singing, whispering and insulting people on our (ASCN) Teamspeak.

If you want to spy we can't stop you but please quit this. It's not fun.

We have banned over 20 of you guys now but you just keep comming back using different IP's.

I'm asking you friendly to stop abusing our TS, what will be next? DoS'ing the server?

It's still a game , let's play it that way. There's no need to insult me or any of my family over this and certainly not shouted to me over teamspeak.

Thank you
RedClaws

Edit: I'm posting this here not to create any sort of discussion or flame but this is the only way i have of communicating with them. So please if you don't have anything to say don't respond. Thanks

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Originally by: Sinlare

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Originally by: LordChaos

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its funny how u say that , and when BoB throws accusations or that something was an ANOMOLY when they lose a fight... when BoB says it then its not pathetic right?

dont mind me just understanding how things work

continue with your lovely posts everyone :)

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You sound bitter, lose much?
Must be hard not having a permanent home huh.

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Originally by: CJ70

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Learn how to use the admin options on TS and don't give people with stupid names registration rights and access to channels?


Don't come here to complain because you're too lazy to setupyour TS properly.

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Originally by: snerdly

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Edited by: snerdly on 16/12/2006 21:53:54

Originally by: thoth foc

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It didnt even take the op 2 pages to work out the reason everyone's laughing/whatever here....

try harder..

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Yes, I read the posts on the [EVOL] and other BoB tags, and how open ASCN TS is. Read my post again; my point still stands.

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Originally by: Boci

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At the risk of being labeled fanboi, unless said TS spammers are proven in some way to actually be affiliated with BoB, why point fingers? Unless you are just bored and actually want a flame war, since thats all the accusation will result in.

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Originally by: FooB2

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as a "neutral" whos just browsing this part of the forum i feel i must point out two things.

1) this is absolutley hilarious.
2) this is absolutley hilarious.

i realise that techinically thats only one thing, but i feel its such a strong point it deserved to be mentioned twice.

carry on.

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, its probably a duck.....Unless you are in BoB, in which case its probably a pig.

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Originally by: LordChaos

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Edited by: LordChaos on 16/12/2006 21:38:47

Originally by: Lord XSiV

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Originally by: kublai

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion

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Any moron with the password can join your ts server and shout abuse. Get a grip ffs.

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You're calling your alliance mates morons here I guess...

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See this is why so many people join bob's side in these threads, true or not, ASCN just beg for flames, it's not so much I support bob, as I just plain think ASCN are acting like children in this war, and on the forums.

It's like a blind man, screaming "go left, can't you see the tree in the road?"

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Oh yeah QFT. And those of who aren't childish get lamblasted internally when we speak the truth....

Not too hard to figure out why one would get a bit frustrated if they are smarter than the average guinee pig.

As for once again veiled threats, complaining to ISPs for people joining a publicly accessable internet service is just another cry. You see ASCN continues to perform their 'blame everyone else' tactics. I am just wondering when they are going to wake up and realize that they don't work.

Too bad it will most likely be too late as the lack of integrity to this point combined with the previous leader's strategic ignorance are just a bit to much to compensate for at this point.

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So tell me Lord XsiV

in that war what did u do to help your alliance ? and what did it not do to u?

from the BoB killboard

u only lost an Apoc and your pod

edit: forgot to add u didnt participate in a single kill u only got 1 Loss against BoB

0 kills

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, its probably a duck.....Unless you are in BoB, in which case its probably a pig.

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Yes, let's all happily assume that anything someone describes as having feathers and wings is henceforth a duck.

That would save alot of people alot of donations to wildlife preservation groups.

Let's do it !

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a duck, its probably a duck.....Unless you are in BoB, in which case its probably a pig.

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Let's just leave it up to the Eve-Community to decide whether what I provided was enough proof about your cheating and lying about it here or not, ok?

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Quote:

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All you BoB, and BoB fanclub that are denying the charges...

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Quote:

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Judge> objection denied, you're being retarded.

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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I see noone denying what happened here, only whether it constitutes enough proof that it was indeed BoB doing this, which you vehemently deny.

Let's just leave it up to the Eve-Community to decide whether what I provided was enough proof about your cheating and lying about it here or not, ok?

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Let's just leave it up to the Eve-Community to decide whether what I provided was enough proof about your cheating and lying about it here or not, ok?

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Not really, i'm having way too much fun toying with you.

Now, let's go to your collegial co-spouter of delusional fairytales.

Quote:

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All you BoB, and BoB fanclub that are denying the charges...

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Let's play lawyer and judge \o/

I object your honour ! This is clearly not samurai !

The defense counsel is lying, of course it is ! He's one of those lowlife griefers that always h4x and cheat their way through court, bribing judges, falsifying evidence and making our files dissapear !

Hell, some of them trained judges for a living even ! NO FAIR.

Quote:

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Judghe> objection denied

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Sorry, no luck, try whining out in the street, someone might care

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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I see noone denying what happened here, only whether it constitutes enough proof that it was indeed BoB doing this, which you vehemently deny.

Let's just leave it up to the Eve-Community to decide whether what I provided was enough proof about your cheating and lying about it here or not, ok?

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Malachon.. lets assume for a moment that yes it was BoB gatecrashing your TS and using lame (but nevertheless funny nicknames) to wind you up.

What does that tell us.. the reader?

[..and don't now say its none of your business go away fanboy.. bla bla bla, cause whats going on here is that ASCN wants the general public to agree that BoB are lamers.. just to get that out of the way]

Assuming it was BoB...

1. It would tell us that BoB are childish and are prepared to go the extra mile to limit your fighting ability.

2. It tells us that your TS protocol is abysmal, I mean criminally so.

3. It tells us that ASCN is desperate to have a good excuse to explain away any battlefield losses.

All things considered, deductions 2 and 3 do not in any way make up for knowing deduction 1.

It still makes ASCN look bad.

So what if BoB are gatecrashing your TS... far worse is the fact that your TS security sucks donkey balls, and that you are desperate to have an excuse to explain your military failings.

This thread is just another classic example of why ASCN is losing this war, what exactly is the purpose of it? to persuade us that BoB are ebil... everybody already knows this... you are still getting your behinds handed to you.

This thread and any knowledge you are trying to impart to us.. doesnt solve your problems, some very big ones.

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Originally by: Pesadel0

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I'am i the only one that thinks that this is being done by ASCN members to fuel their hate against BoB?

Evil plan .

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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I see noone denying what happened here, only whether it constitutes enough proof that it was indeed BoB doing this, which you vehemently deny.

Let's just leave it up to the Eve-Community to decide whether what I provided was enough proof about your cheating and lying about it here or not, ok?

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Malachon.. lets assume for a moment that yes it was BoB gatecrashing your TS and using lame (but nevertheless funny nicknames) to wind you up.

What does that tell us.. the reader?

[..and don't now say its none of your business go away fanboy.. bla bla bla, cause whats going on here is that ASCN wants the general public to agree that BoB are lamers.. just to get that out of the way]

Assuming it was BoB...

1. It would tell us that BoB are childish and are prepared to go the extra mile to limit your fighting ability.

2. It tells us that your TS protocol is abysmal, I mean criminally so.

3. It tells us that ASCN is desperate to have a good excuse to explain away any battlefield losses.

All things considered, deductions 2 and 3 do not in any way make up for knowing deduction 1.

It still makes ASCN look bad.

So what if BoB are gatecrashing your TS... far worse is the fact that your TS security sucks donkey balls, and that you are desperate to have an excuse to explain your military failings.

This thread is just another classic example of why ASCN is losing this war, what exactly is the purpose of it? to persuade us that BoB are ebil... everybody already knows this... you are still getting your behinds handed to you.

This thread and any knowledge you are trying to impart to us.. doesnt solve your problems, some very big ones.

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You're right. Our TS security sucks monkey balls. I fully admit it.

However, what is perhaps more interesting here at this point in time, is BoB vehemently denying something that was rather obviously perpetrated by them.

Or to put it in simple words. They are lying to you. Who knows what else they've been lying about. All their babbling about honour and integrity is obviously a joke if they stoop to these levels, and then deny it when exposed.

Never trust a BoB, he will lie and cheat while pretending to be honourable.

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Originally by: Tzrailasa

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Originally by: VonKaplanek III

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Originally by: Cryus Aphax

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This is pathetic and sadly shows how downhill the eve community is going.

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Heres the real truth....

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Yeah, I agree. It's pretty pathetic when alliances starts throwing accusations around in all directions but never provides any proof (/me points a big stick in the general direction of ASCN, somehow seeming to point it straight at Malachon Draco)....

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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However, what is perhaps more interesting here at this point in time, is BoB vehemently denying something that was rather obviously perpetrated by them.

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Originally by: RedClaws

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Edited by: RedClaws on 16/12/2006 20:36:00
Goodday,

BoB pilots please quit shouting, screaming, singing, whispering and insulting people on our (ASCN) Teamspeak.

If you want to spy we can't stop you but please quit this. It's not fun.

We have banned over 20 of you guys now but you just keep comming back using different IP's.

I'm asking you friendly to stop abusing our TS, what will be next? DoS'ing the server?

It's still a game , let's play it that way. There's no need to insult me or any of my family over this and certainly not shouted to me over teamspeak.

Thank you
RedClaws

Edit: I'm posting this here not to create any sort of discussion or flame but this is the only way i have of communicating with them. So please if you don't have anything to say don't respond. Thanks

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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There is only one thing going on here... ASCN's alliance model is revealing all its flaws... and the quantity and size of them are astounding, nobody could have guessed just how flawed it was.

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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The problem is that the way your alliance works, you have absolutely no control whatsoever over your average pilots, because for years now, your recruitment policies have been negligent. Quality over quantity.

Now you are paying the price.

There is no downward spiral in EVE, there is no erosion of the moral values in the game.

There is only one thing going on here... ASCN's alliance model is revealing all its flaws... and the quantity and size of them are astounding, nobody could have guessed just how flawed it was.

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Originally by: Baun

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There is joint causation here. ASCN might have awful security practices, but that has nothing to do with whether people should be doing these things.

ASCN should act to protect themselves, but they have a right to decry the lack of maturity of those taking advantage. Out of game resources should be out of bounds for this kind of crap. You aren't technically allowed to do this sort of thing in game and we are supposed to rebuff an appeal to reason to get people to stop doing them out of game?

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Originally by: Galavet

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Originally by: MECHcore

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So they brought the lameness to a whole new lvl , first their forumwarriors each day in all topics and now this , sad tbh

I hope you can sort it out.

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Its not us, and if you are banning a person doing it multiple times that means you have a server admin giving him his rights back.

Look in your own house before you blame somebody else, but wait this is the Blame others first for our failures alliance, otherwise known as ASCN.

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Nice attempt at diversion. Focusing on other people's arguments to try and discredit mine. That doesn't fly in a debate, sorry.

How about this:
- Ignore the others.

- Focus on what I said, and what I provided as evidence, albeit circumstantial to some extent.

Draw your conclusions.

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Originally by: Baun

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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There is only one thing going on here... ASCN's alliance model is revealing all its flaws... and the quantity and size of them are astounding, nobody could have guessed just how flawed it was.

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There is joint causation here. ASCN might have awful security practices, but that has nothing to do with whether people should be doing these things.

ASCN should act to protect themselves, but they have a right to decry the lack of maturity of those taking advantage. Out of game resources should be out of bounds for this kind of crap. You aren't technically allowed to do this sort of thing in game and we are supposed to rebuff an appeal to reason to get people to stop doing them out of game?

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Originally by: Marogian

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Anyone with any intelligence knew full well the flaws in the ASCN model the moment it was conceived. Most of us accept that the flaws with the model are a price you absolutely have to pay for creating an alliance which lets pretty much anyone join. We have ALOT of players who only play for one hour a day, sometimes less. We have alot of people who only play at the weekend.

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Originally by: Dawn Princess

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Originally by: HC MasiEEE

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This threads always make me smile. People make claims without proof and if you ask for proof they dont have any.

You say its as hard too proof santa dont exist? Well good luck finding Reindeer that can fly or getting elfs too work for you , the only reason there is no proof cause its all nonsense as usual. Covering defeat too make your enemy look worse then you is pretty lame in my book.

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U dont like ASCN, yes, we all get it.

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: Marogian

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Anyone with any intelligence knew full well the flaws in the ASCN model the moment it was conceived. Most of us accept that the flaws with the model are a price you absolutely have to pay for creating an alliance which lets pretty much anyone join. We have ALOT of players who only play for one hour a day, sometimes less. We have alot of people who only play at the weekend.

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Rubbish...

ASCN was supposed to be what Xetic was not, lean and mean.

And for a period of time it was... I watched ASCN grow with great interest. For a time it seemed as if you would become one of the big powers in EVE and you did become just that but it was a fake... somewhere along the way it went Pete Tong.

The mirage of unlimited wealth, outposts, territory and presence on the big stage must have blinded you to the basics of alliance management. I really would like to know at what stage ASCN forgot it was living in 0.0 and traded in the reasons behind its conception in exchangr for the outpost dream and having the biggest pilot roster in the game.

Where are your FC's, where is the dedication to stand up to BoB and make them back down?

Why has ASCN become WhaaaaaaASCN?

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Originally by: Lord XSiV

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Originally by: Baun

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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There is only one thing going on here... ASCN's alliance model is revealing all its flaws... and the quantity and size of them are astounding, nobody could have guessed just how flawed it was.

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There is joint causation here. ASCN might have awful security practices, but that has nothing to do with whether people should be doing these things.

ASCN should act to protect themselves, but they have a right to decry the lack of maturity of those taking advantage. Out of game resources should be out of bounds for this kind of crap. You aren't technically allowed to do this sort of thing in game and we are supposed to rebuff an appeal to reason to get people to stop doing them out of game?

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WTF? You need a dose of reality with whatever else you are taking.....

Internet warfare is similar to real world warfare. You use everything at your disposal. To not do so is a strategic mistake. To assume others won't or shouldn't is an even further mistake.

Time and time again it has been proven that intel is the key to success. Based upon your logic, the allies in WW2 should not have employed communicaitons intercepts and encryption *****ing as it is deemed 'unfair'.

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It is amazing how some people beleive that dictating their playstyle to a game is their right and anything outside of the realm of their resource scope is an 'exploit'. Time for some people to go back to WoW....

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Originally by: Marogian

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You're starting to show your lack of direct experience in the conflict now. ASCN is fighting BoB, we've been fighting BoB for three months. ASCN, at the start of the war at least, was stronger than it has been at any point in its history.

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: Baun

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There is joint causation here. ASCN might have awful security practices, but that has nothing to do with whether people should be doing these things.

ASCN should act to protect themselves, but they have a right to decry the lack of maturity of those taking advantage. Out of game resources should be out of bounds for this kind of crap. You aren't technically allowed to do this sort of thing in game and we are supposed to rebuff an appeal to reason to get people to stop doing them out of game?

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Baun... TS spying and forum spying and spies that will offline POS are the uglier side of PVP in EVE, but you know as well as I do that it happens. It happens everytime there is warfare, because when alliances really want to bury another alliance, they pull out all the stops.

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Now this business of gatecrashing ASCN TS.. yeah its a little lame.. but it could be anybody.. it could be disguntled ASCN pilots, it could be random people given access to the Server by the same guy that offlined the ASCN POS... it could be anybody.

It might be BoB, but then again it might be Joe Bloggs who purchased a password in Jita.

ASCN's TS security is so lax, that it could be Farther Christmas.

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Originally by: Aberash

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Reading some of the replies i see all BoB members just say "It will be an ASCN member" which is exactly what you have said about pretty much everysingle "spy" related incident. (like the 0oY incident). But what you need to remember is it wasnt just 1 member messing around with our ts it Was 4or5.. maybe more.

It totally messed up our Operations, with these lamers sending whispers to commanders of different gangs singing down the mic or saying "Im getting attacked come to the gate quick" It was the LAMEST thing ive seen yet. and lets face it, "If" it was ASCN members, it would have to be 4or5 of them, and what exactly would it benefit them? so its either BoB members, or members that are connected to BoB in some way. So cut the crap and own up to it, calling everyone else pussies when you use the lamest tactics, not just in game, but out of game now.

LAME.

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Originally by: Baun

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I don't care who is doing it. I care alot more that people have the audacity to make fun of someone for simply requesting that the activity stop. People have gone well beyond merely demurring to the accusation that it was BoB and act like this is some sort of justified activity. This activity is *NEVER* justified. Ridiculing someone for asking people to stop doing something immature and disruptive is *NOT* ok. This community needs to remember that this is a game.

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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In hindsight, I'm sure it has become quite clear that it could be anybody.

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Originally by: Lord XSiV

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Originally by: LordChaos

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Edited by: LordChaos on 16/12/2006 21:38:47

Originally by: Lord XSiV

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Originally by: kublai

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion

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Any moron with the password can join your ts server and shout abuse. Get a grip ffs.

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You're calling your alliance mates morons here I guess...

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See this is why so many people join bob's side in these threads, true or not, ASCN just beg for flames, it's not so much I support bob, as I just plain think ASCN are acting like children in this war, and on the forums.

It's like a blind man, screaming "go left, can't you see the tree in the road?"

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Oh yeah QFT. And those of who aren't childish get lamblasted internally when we speak the truth....

Not too hard to figure out why one would get a bit frustrated if they are smarter than the average guinee pig.

As for once again veiled threats, complaining to ISPs for people joining a publicly accessable internet service is just another cry. You see ASCN continues to perform their 'blame everyone else' tactics. I am just wondering when they are going to wake up and realize that they don't work.

Too bad it will most likely be too late as the lack of integrity to this point combined with the previous leader's strategic ignorance are just a bit to much to compensate for at this point.

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So tell me Lord XsiV

in that war what did u do to help your alliance ? and what did it not do to u?

from the BoB killboard

u only lost an Apoc and your pod

edit: forgot to add u didnt participate in a single kill u only got 1 Loss against BoB

0 kills

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Well since you want to play that angle, fine I will play. At least someone would like to play on the level of attacking one's credibility rather than resorintg to childish name calling....Quite frankly it was getting boring responding to those who lack social interaction skills....Let I said, we aren't dealing with mensa here.

I am going to assume that you are a a bit smarter than HC ASCN, but don't let it get to your head; several species of primates can also make the same claim. It is a well known fact that up to 80% of ASCN pop is comprised of alts. Might it also be possible that this happens to be an industrial alt? Tune in next week for further info on this exciting breaking story....

Also, the bob guy hit the nail on head, except it was an fc and not hc. If you will take a look at the kill mail posting, it was done with a pos. I can tell you that is was an absolute joy to sit at a pos for 8 hours only to be warped to enemy pos at 20km and subsequently popped/podded while the grid was still loading. (sarcasm 4 the slow)

Anyhow, it still doesn't matter in the least - it has nothing to do with my skills as a player if the command is fatally flawed. It should however matter if one is pointing out faults that have nothing to do with the accusations of hax, exploits, abuse of game mechanics, etc that ASCN so frequently uses to compensate for incompetence.

Not to say that all FCs in ASCN are terrible; there are some very good ones. The other night there, Harpo from CoRM was a joy to fly with and actually got his objective accomplished. Then we all had fun getting ourselves blown up and I don't think anyone in that gang would argue with that statement....

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Edited by: Rod Blaine on 16/12/2006 21:52:55

Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Originally by: Rod Blaine

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Seriously guys, this is hilarious, don't stop it please.


On teh other hand, do you really think someone infiltrating your TS would be so stupid to wear his corp tags when doing so ? I mean, c'mon, we're evil, not stupid.

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Rod, please explain this to me:

I say in local: BoB, stop hacking our TS. All that is in local is ASCN and BoB.

20 seconds later, someone enters TS with the tag '[my name] sucks .... '

How can it not be BoB?

And indeed it is amazing how fast the BoB forum warrior squad is being deployed to try to defuse any damage to their precious reputation. Your forumwhoring speed continues to amaze me.

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Hmm, explain to me then Lalachon baby.

Look at this piccy someone posted on this forum:
http://www.eve-files.com/media/0612/Image2.jpg
(not my piccy, someone posted it earlier int hsi thread)

Do you see how several people used tags like "[insert random forum whoring ASCN member here] is an idiot" ?

Did all of those happen to ask BoB memebrs in their local about the ts griefing not a minute before those invaders entered your ts server ?

What, no ? But, how can that be ? Obviously someone entering ascn's ts server with a nick designed specifically to insult ascn's most rabid forum-active delusionalist is irreputable proof of BoB's involvement and could never be coincidental at all seeing the numerous other forum active delusionalists being insulted in similar manner.


Sorry if that sounds harsh (no I'm not, but anyway), but you seriously need to get a grip there.

Oh, and if you hadn't noticed that I'm quite oftne present on these forums after seeing me post all over the place for three years you must have been looking elsewhere. One has to pass ones' time when warping around from kill to kill.

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Originally by: RedClaws

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I tried to be reasonable, i asked politely and what do i get ? even bigger crap than i saw in general chat in WoW.

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Originally by: LordChaos

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Originally by: Lord XSiV

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Originally by: LordChaos

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Edited by: LordChaos on 16/12/2006 21:38:47

Originally by: Lord XSiV

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Originally by: kublai

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Originally by: Alasse Cuthalion

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Any moron with the password can join your ts server and shout abuse. Get a grip ffs.

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You're calling your alliance mates morons here I guess...

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See this is why so many people join bob's side in these threads, true or not, ASCN just beg for flames, it's not so much I support bob, as I just plain think ASCN are acting like children in this war, and on the forums.

It's like a blind man, screaming "go left, can't you see the tree in the road?"

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Oh yeah QFT. And those of who aren't childish get lamblasted internally when we speak the truth....

Not too hard to figure out why one would get a bit frustrated if they are smarter than the average guinee pig.

As for once again veiled threats, complaining to ISPs for people joining a publicly accessable internet service is just another cry. You see ASCN continues to perform their 'blame everyone else' tactics. I am just wondering when they are going to wake up and realize that they don't work.

Too bad it will most likely be too late as the lack of integrity to this point combined with the previous leader's strategic ignorance are just a bit to much to compensate for at this point.

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So tell me Lord XsiV

in that war what did u do to help your alliance ? and what did it not do to u?

from the BoB killboard

u only lost an Apoc and your pod

edit: forgot to add u didnt participate in a single kill u only got 1 Loss against BoB

0 kills

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Well since you want to play that angle, fine I will play. At least someone would like to play on the level of attacking one's credibility rather than resorintg to childish name calling....Quite frankly it was getting boring responding to those who lack social interaction skills....Let I said, we aren't dealing with mensa here.

I am going to assume that you are a a bit smarter than HC ASCN, but don't let it get to your head; several species of primates can also make the same claim. It is a well known fact that up to 80% of ASCN pop is comprised of alts. Might it also be possible that this happens to be an industrial alt? Tune in next week for further info on this exciting breaking story....

Also, the bob guy hit the nail on head, except it was an fc and not hc. If you will take a look at the kill mail posting, it was done with a pos. I can tell you that is was an absolute joy to sit at a pos for 8 hours only to be warped to enemy pos at 20km and subsequently popped/podded while the grid was still loading. (sarcasm 4 the slow)

Anyhow, it still doesn't matter in the least - it has nothing to do with my skills as a player if the command is fatally flawed. It should however matter if one is pointing out faults that have nothing to do with the accusations of hax, exploits, abuse of game mechanics, etc that ASCN so frequently uses to compensate for incompetence.

Not to say that all FCs in ASCN are terrible; there are some very good ones. The other night there, Harpo from CoRM was a joy to fly with and actually got his objective accomplished. Then we all had fun getting ourselves blown up and I don't think anyone in that gang would argue with that statement....

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you didnt answer my question :)

as expected :)

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Originally by: RedClaws

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Christ i go away for 2 hours and theres 5 pages for me. With only 1 or 2 decent replies.

You know what : screw it, i'm not making any more posts here since its just one idiot against another.

I tried to be reasonable, i asked politely and what do i get ? even bigger crap than i saw in general chat in WoW.

You think you're so great and mature? why don't you act like it!

Seriously bob, i've been nothing but respectfull to you and every time i get it thrown back into my face: you discust me.

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Originally by: Kin Hanyerec

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There is no point in discussing this further unless you can find the identity of those "hackers". Which is unlikely.

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Originally by: FILFIUS

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I seriously doubt that BOB would go to these levels. Why would they need to... All I hear is how well BOB are doing in all the major battles v's ASCN so it just dosent add up that they would inhibit someone elses gameplay to this extent.

To who ever is doing this... bad form... you need to unplug for a while.

FILFIUS

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Originally by: FooB2

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Edited by: FooB2 on 16/12/2006 23:59:42
hello. i would like to kindly refer you to this post. i believe it has some relevance here.

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Said "hackers".. have been revealed in a seperate thread.. actually they revealed themselves for comedic value.

They got a couple of promo videos too watch too..... very ...

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Originally by: Galavet

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Its not us, and if you are banning a person doing it multiple times that means you have a server admin giving him his rights back.

Look in your own house before you blame somebody else, but wait this is the Blame others first for our failures alliance, otherwise known as ASCN.

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Originally by: Kin Hanyerec

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look at post 6 of this thread.

Originally by: Galavet

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Its not us, and if you are banning a person doing it multiple times that means you have a server admin giving him his rights back.

Look in your own house before you blame somebody else, but wait this is the Blame others first for our failures alliance, otherwise known as ASCN.

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Originally by: Aberash

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The reason i personally "accused" BoB is the fact that it was not just 1 pilot but quite a few, 2or3 afaik, and for these to be all ascn pilots is very unlikely.

i was leading an ASCN gang at the time of this "incident". I kept hearing music and other bull**** like "Theres a party in my pants!" being shouted down TS that nowone else in my Channel could hear, i finally realised these were whispers and scanned TS and found 3or4 members in a seperate channel with tags like [TAOSP]%#4234, and [CLS] vipeer. after kicking Many people i then blocked whispers. They then start doing it to other ascn members, getting extremely frustrated i vent this anger in local at the BoB [TAOSP] members. then on TS names like "Aberash likes coc.k" appear. Gold mamba then vents his frustration in local and then names like [IXC] GOLD MAMBA IS AN IDIOT, appear on TS.

This was no coincidence and the BoB that say it is ASCN traitors doing it, you failed to mention the fact that they are ASCN members controlled by BoB pilots

This ruined the OP and made TS a right mess, now im not going to end the post with "YOU *****". But seriously this aint funny, lets play the game fair and then at the end of this war maybe we will have a slight bit of respect for each other

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Originally by: Aberash

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The reason i personally "accused" BoB is the fact that it was not just 1 pilot but quite a few, 2or3 afaik, and for these to be all ascn pilots is very unlikely.

i was leading an ASCN gang at the time of this "incident". I kept hearing music and other bull**** like "Theres a party in my pants!" being shouted down TS that nowone else in my Channel could hear, i finally realised these were whispers and scanned TS and found 3or4 members in a seperate channel with tags like [TAOSP]%#4234, and [CLS] vipeer. after kicking Many people i then blocked whispers. They then start doing it to other ascn members, getting extremely frustrated i vent this anger in local at the BoB [TAOSP] members. then on TS names like "Aberash likes coc.k" appear. Gold mamba then vents his frustration in local and then names like [IXC] GOLD MAMBA IS AN IDIOT, appear on TS.

This was no coincidence and the BoB that say it is ASCN traitors doing it, you failed to mention the fact that they are ASCN members controlled by BoB pilots

This ruined the OP and made TS a right mess, now im not going to end the post with "YOU *****". But seriously this aint funny, lets play the game fair and then at the end of this war maybe we will have a slight bit of respect for each other

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Originally by: Lowa

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To be honest its not about who did this, its about that who ever it was is a lame ass.
Spy if you like. Infiltrate if you like. Record if you want to.
Getting on screaming and insulting people = Not funny, not cool. And quite chavy tbh.

Going straight for BoB is natural in your current state but you could have formulated it
as "Pilots invading our TS and behaving like morons please stop" instead directly
accusing BoB even if you think it points directly to them.


Just mho.

/Lowa

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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This thread is now obsolete and pointless because the real perpetrators have revealed themselves... you should now head over there and get angry at them. !!!

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Originally by: Baun

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DING DING DING. This thread has a winner.

Exactly the point.

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Originally by: Maya Rkell

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Nez? Just because team dulz were doing it does not mean that others were not as well

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Originally by: RedClaws

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Edited by: RedClaws on 16/12/2006 20:36:00
Goodday,

BoB pilots please quit shouting, screaming, singing, whispering and insulting people on our (ASCN) Teamspeak.

If you want to spy we can't stop you but please quit this. It's not fun.

We have banned over 20 of you guys now but you just keep comming back using different IP's.

I'm asking you friendly to stop abusing our TS, what will be next? DoS'ing the server?

It's still a game , let's play it that way. There's no need to insult me or any of my family over this and certainly not shouted to me over teamspeak.

Thank you
RedClaws

Edit: I'm posting this here not to create any sort of discussion or flame but this is the only way i have of communicating with them. So please if you don't have anything to say don't respond. Thanks

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Originally by: Wintermute AI

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now to be true the solution to a TS spy / harrasment problem is probably not to post it on the forums.

the solution is :

entering a TS server youre not invited to is trespass. get in contact with the cybercrime department. they will be glad to find out who(ip) was on your TS and if this particular person was not invited punishment by law will follow.

accusing someone break into your ts server is a libel and as such a breaking of laws.

to say : XXX is an idiot. is defamation (ehrenbeleidigung) and as such prohibited too.

so everyone please start thinking before acting.

with best regards Oceemia

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: Maya Rkell

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Nez? Just because team dulz were doing it does not mean that others were not as well

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k.. so ASCN's TS is a free for all then? is that what you are saying?

Does this happen everyday? and if so why the big fuss?

Looks like the party is over at ASCN's TS.. they gonna put ShinRa out of business.

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: Aberash

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The reason i personally "accused" BoB is the fact that it was not just 1 pilot but quite a few, 2or3 afaik, and for these to be all ascn pilots is very unlikely.

i was leading an ASCN gang at the time of this "incident". I kept hearing music and other bull**** like "Theres a party in my pants!" being shouted down TS that nowone else in my Channel could hear, i finally realised these were whispers and scanned TS and found 3or4 members in a seperate channel with tags like [TAOSP]%#4234, and [CLS] vipeer. after kicking Many people i then blocked whispers. They then start doing it to other ascn members, getting extremely frustrated i vent this anger in local at the BoB [TAOSP] members. then on TS names like "Aberash likes coc.k" appear. Gold mamba then vents his frustration in local and then names like [IXC] GOLD MAMBA IS AN IDIOT, appear on TS.

This was no coincidence and the BoB that say it is ASCN traitors doing it, you failed to mention the fact that they are ASCN members controlled by BoB pilots

This ruined the OP and made TS a right mess, now im not going to end the post with "YOU *****". But seriously this aint funny, lets play the game fair and then at the end of this war maybe we will have a slight bit of respect for each other

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Wow are you blind?

check out this thread..... Team LULZ owns up to TS shenanigans....

This thread is now obsolete and pointless because the real perpetrators have revealed themselves... you should now head over there and get angry at them. !!!

They were whispering in your ear.

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Originally by: Aberash

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: Aberash

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The reason i personally "accused" BoB is the fact that it was not just 1 pilot but quite a few, 2or3 afaik, and for these to be all ascn pilots is very unlikely.

i was leading an ASCN gang at the time of this "incident". I kept hearing music and other bull**** like "Theres a party in my pants!" being shouted down TS that nowone else in my Channel could hear, i finally realised these were whispers and scanned TS and found 3or4 members in a seperate channel with tags like [TAOSP]%#4234, and [CLS] vipeer. after kicking Many people i then blocked whispers. They then start doing it to other ascn members, getting extremely frustrated i vent this anger in local at the BoB [TAOSP] members. then on TS names like "Aberash likes coc.k" appear. Gold mamba then vents his frustration in local and then names like [IXC] GOLD MAMBA IS AN IDIOT, appear on TS.

This was no coincidence and the BoB that say it is ASCN traitors doing it, you failed to mention the fact that they are ASCN members controlled by BoB pilots

This ruined the OP and made TS a right mess, now im not going to end the post with "YOU *****". But seriously this aint funny, lets play the game fair and then at the end of this war maybe we will have a slight bit of respect for each other

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Wow are you blind?

check out this thread..... Team LULZ owns up to TS shenanigans....

This thread is now obsolete and pointless because the real perpetrators have revealed themselves... you should now head over there and get angry at them. !!!

They were whispering in your ear.

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Explain this to me. Why did they choose me and Gold mamba to use as names on TS?
Why out of the hundreds of people on TS was it us, when at the time we happened to be having an argument with BoB members in local.

And the member "InsidermanALT" .. how do we know that is not a BoB member stirring ****. That topic Proves absolutely nothing. just as this one doesnt officialy prove anything either.

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Originally by: Blacklight

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I think Madeye and CRYVOK have delusions of adequacy!

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: Maya Rkell

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Nez? Just because team dulz were doing it does not mean that others were not as well

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k.. so ASCN's TS is a free for all then? is that what you are saying?

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Originally by: Aberash

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Explain this to me. Why did they choose me and Gold mamba to use as names on TS?
Why out of the hundreds of people on TS was it us, when at the time we happened to be having an argument with BoB members in local.

And the member "InsidermanALT" .. how do we know that is not a BoB member stirring ****. That topic Proves absolutely nothing. just as this one doesnt officialy prove anything either.

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Originally by: Aberash

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It may be very late and im very tired, but i am not saying these people (****ers btw) didnt do it. I mearly question there intention. WHY did they do it.

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: Aberash

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Explain this to me. Why did they choose me and Gold mamba to use as names on TS?
Why out of the hundreds of people on TS was it us, when at the time we happened to be having an argument with BoB members in local.

And the member "InsidermanALT" .. how do we know that is not a BoB member stirring ****. That topic Proves absolutely nothing. just as this one doesnt officialy prove anything either.

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OMG.. you can't be serious...

K... those people in Team LULZ are real characters, and most of them are well known for being a little bit naughty. They are owning up to it, to complete the hillariousness of the whole story.

What more do you want?

K.. I know what you wanna hear, you want Blacklight to admit publicly that Shin Ra (part of Team LULZ) is his alt and that he orchestrated the whole thing from his work station at Micro$oft head office, in conjunction with Oveur and TomB.

Cause thats about the only thing that will satisfy you people.

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Originally by: Blacklight

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I think Madeye and CRYVOK have delusions of adequacy!

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Originally by: LordChaos

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as expected from the kiddie insults that u wouldnt comprehend the simple question i asked :)


all u said was ASCN sucks u didnt say what u did for your alliance other than losing a single BS to a pos which took 2 of your paragraphs to say it

for the 7 month u been in ASCN u didnt do anything for the alliance or just carebear in their space and run away when the **** hits the fan?

and y you still in ASCN if u hate it soo much? moving your stuff to empire? :)

and from your reply on STK i would come to the conclusion that ................ fill in the blanks :)

anyways the only reason i replied to your messages cause i honestly thought u are a guy who helped his alliance loads and got screwed in the end , but from your posts u didnt even lift a finger to help them out. so u dont desrve anything.


anyways continue your insults on your former friends :)

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Probably because they wagered that you might run to the forums with it and blame BoB.... a

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Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: Aberash

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It may be very late and im very tired, but i am not saying these people (****ers btw) didnt do it. I mearly question there intention. WHY did they do it.

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Probably because they wagered that you might run to the forums with it and blame BoB.... and have a jolly good laugh at your expense.

Some people are mean like that.

You have to stop blaming BoB/CCP/auto-updates/node hacking/Father Christmas for everything under the sun.... its just not healthy.

ASCN's problems can only be solved by ASCN, nobody else.

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Originally by: Aberash

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The reason i personally "accused" BoB is the fact that it was not just 1 pilot but quite a few, 2or3 afaik, and for these to be all ascn pilots is very unlikely.

i was leading an ASCN gang at the time of this "incident". I kept hearing music and other bull**** like "Theres a party in my pants!" being shouted down TS that nowone else in my Channel could hear, i finally realised these were whispers and scanned TS and found 3or4 members in a seperate channel with tags like [TAOSP]%#4234, and [CLS] vipeer. after kicking Many people i then blocked whispers. They then start doing it to other ascn members, getting extremely frustrated i vent this anger in local at the BoB [TAOSP] members. then on TS names like "Aberash likes coc.k" appear. Gold mamba then vents his frustration in local and then names like [IXC] GOLD MAMBA IS AN IDIOT, appear on TS.

This was no coincidence and the BoB that say it is ASCN traitors doing it, you failed to mention the fact that they are ASCN members controlled by BoB pilots

This ruined the OP and made TS a right mess, now im not going to end the post with "YOU *****". But seriously this aint funny, lets play the game fair and then at the end of this war maybe we will have a slight bit of respect for each other

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Originally by: Bender

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Interesting, no the other one ... tedious

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Originally by: Aberash

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If you were in ASCN you would have a different attitude. like in OP's whoever starts calling primaries (no matter what ship there in) get primaried by BoB. continuoslly **** like this has happened so excuse us for getting a little bit ****ed off with the use of spies. and maybe you havnt been in a 300man Fleet fight were your screen freezes for 10mins and dont worry, **** like this will get worse and worse and alliances will be pointless in eve, everyone will just be in pirate corps roaming all day

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Originally by: CamMan

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You are a bit slow, so i will explain it to you using small words, burn eden and friends have already claimed responsibility for this act which have whinged and whined that BoB did it. Oh yeah responsibility means they did it

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Originally by: Aberash

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Edited by: Aberash on 17/12/2006 01:17:27

Originally by: Nez Perces

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Originally by: Aberash

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It may be very late and im very tired, but i am not saying these people (****ers btw) didnt do it. I mearly question there intention. WHY did they do it.

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Probably because they wagered that you might run to the forums with it and blame BoB.... and have a jolly good laugh at your expense.

Some people are mean like that.

You have to stop blaming BoB/CCP/auto-updates/node hacking/Father Christmas for everything under the sun.... its just not healthy.

ASCN's problems can only be solved by ASCN, nobody else.

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If you were in ASCN you would have a different attitude. like in OP's whoever starts calling primaries (no matter what ship there in) get primaried by BoB. continuoslly **** like this has happened so excuse us for getting a little bit ****ed off with the use of spies. and maybe you havnt been in a 300man Fleet fight were your screen freezes for 10mins and dont worry, **** like this will get worse and worse and alliances will be pointless in eve, everyone will just be in pirate corps roaming all day

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Originally by: Alexison

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So will we see a public apology from ASCN to BoB?

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