So basically you're saying it's for real men?

So, Gallente have issues because buffer tanks slow them down, as do armor rigs....but active tanks don't require armor rigs to be effective (though they'd be nice), and don't add mass like plates do....why don't they do something with this?

EDIT: The other problem with the Gallente blaster boats is that they dont have a utility high-slot. For an "active tanking" cap intensive race, a nos seems tailor made, but the ships that need them the most cant fit them. Yet some other races that shant be named have utility highs galore.

[quote=Fronkfurter McSheebleton]EDIT: The other problem with the Gallente blaster boats is that they dont have a utility high-slot. For an "active tanking" cap intensive race, a nos seems tailor made, but the ships that need them the most cant fit them. Yet some other races that shant be named have utility highs galore.

Very true, but you don't HAVE to use all of the gun slots. : /

The Hyperion in particular would work fine with 7 guns, IMO. The mega does it with the same damage bonus, right?

Very true, but you don't HAVE to use all of the gun slots. : /

The Hyperion in particular would work fine with 7 guns, IMO. The mega does it with the same damage bonus, right?

Get rid of armor rep bonus on Myrmidon. Allow flexibility.

Triple rep myrms are a tough nut to crack, and can stay on the field longer then most other ships because of this bonus. removing it would hurt this greatly.

This, of course, is a horrible idea. Active armor ships might be niche, but they are very good under the right circumstances. Active shield tanks -- god, don't change a thing about those.

The beauty of these ships is that they really do have options. The active shield ships can easily fit a buffer instead. The active armor ships can do that, armor buffer, or shield buffer. And yes, that's a good thing, especially when all of these options have at least some appeal within the metagame.

If anything take the Brutix's away and change it to a bonus that makes it near as effective a skirmish ship as the Hurricane. Leave the Myrms current underused but powerful Niche intact to be improved upon in further balance changes.

Doing this would really hurt people who solo/small gang. And believe it or not, there are lots of people that do.

Give armor tankers a less effective, but still viable armor-tank "speed" option that is all but necessary on blaster boats.

so I'm browsing incursion channel and I read this : proteus LFSF - for the noobs that stands for "looking for shield fleet" - sure enough I checked it out - it's a shield fit gallente t3 - lots of dps and even semi reasonable range due to TE's.

In fact all the amarr ships, which are supposed to be the armor ships are more commonly seen as shield config - legion and guardian being the exceptions - not that legion doesn't rock as a shield boat - it's just the last armor port in the shield storm :).


what works in pve might not necessarily work in pvp especially if you would have to share tank prop and tackle in 4 mids slots but unless it's a ship with 1 mid shield tank is an option

My suggestion is to get rid of these armor rep bonuses (and the shield boost bonus on the Minmatar Cyclone, Claymore, and Mael), and replace it with another bonus, making the Gallente and Minmatar more variable when it comes to what they tank.
Perhaps give them a -5% cap recharge time bonus (and maybe a utlity high).
This higher cap regen aids them in active tank, or it can work to power a utility high, making the ship more versatilele (could power RRs, Cap drain, MWD, etc

Posting in a stealth "Buff minmatar" thread !

Nothing stops you from only fitting 7 guns, and using the 8th high for something else.

the main problem i see with active tanking bonus is that with ships with a 5% bonus to resist are equally effictive at active tanking as the ships with 7.5% to repaired hp and the 5% resist can be used for buffer tanking as well

If anything take the Brutix's away and change it to a bonus that makes it near as effective a skirmish ship as the Hurricane. Leave the Myrms current underused but powerful Niche intact to be improved upon in further balance changes.

Yeah, replace the repping bonus of the Brutix with something else. No need for two BCs of the same race to have the same active repping bonus. Gallente ought to have at least ONE fleet BC available.