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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.11.24 13:25:00 -
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I use the scanner to chase people around the systems (unless they use a mid-nowhere bookmark). .
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2003.11.24 13:28:00 -
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It would be *very* immersive and adding to the feeling of realism if the scanner would only show things in an artificial bubble called your grid. NOT.
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ElCoCo
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Posted - 2003.11.24 13:32:00 -
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Edited by: ElCoCo on 24/11/2003 13:35:54
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It was possible to lock and shoot peaple in another grid long time ago but CCP changed it so that it should not be possible now.
But is it illegal if I am in a different grid and use my scanner to see how many are near he place I want to warp to ?
I had that grid thingy happen to me about 2-3 weeks ago so if they didn`t change it after the last mini-optional-patch it`s still there.
On the subject I totaly agree with you. It works for pirates and non-pirates and is a very helpful feature for both.
edit to add: you "seem" to lose the lock but in fact you don`t, that`s what I meant that happens if you/he change grid.
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Paddyman
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Posted - 2003.11.24 13:36:00 -
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This is just bull****, Omni is the same thing weve had with GM's b4, i personally dont think half of them even play the game as some of the things they come out with amaze me.
Of course u can use ur scanner to check what gates/planets etc have people at them and what type of ships they are.
I do it all the time, if theres an enemy in a system, ill warp to the sun and use distance and directional scanning to locate the moon he's hiding at.
And yes of course the sun is in a differnet grid than the moon i scanned him at. How in gods name can this be an exploit. I reckon u just a carebear GM whos opinion is that of a carebear and therefore anything that helps u kill them is an exploit.
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.11.24 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: sutty on 24/11/2003 13:39:32 I use it to find people in space who think there safe. then track them down using the directional scanner, if there close enough a mwd if not mini warps dropping bookmarks till we get you.
oh and also the GM's dont know anything about there own game. ignore them, if it was illegal to use the scanner when the object you are scanning for is not on the same grid, then take the scanner out the game as it is useless. CCP tell your staff to engage there brains.
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Karon Wodens
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Posted - 2003.11.24 14:19:00 -
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What I use them for?
The identification of various asteroid strains. That's what.
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2003.11.24 14:21:00 -
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Quote: With grids as far as I know its impossible to target someone in another grid using the scanner,
Your wrong. You can stay right outside the grid border. Activate your wepond and target a ship in your scanner list.
-- Lady Beeblebrox
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Krac
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Posted - 2003.11.24 15:27:00 -
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i use it to see who is flying what
and i will keep doing it until some one tell me not too |
sutty
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Posted - 2003.11.24 15:27:00 -
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wrong you cant.
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2003.11.24 15:30:00 -
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Quote: wrong you cant.
.. if you say so sir ..
-- Lady Beeblebrox
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2003.11.24 15:44:00 -
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Quote: What purpose does the scanner serve for you?
In one word: scouting.
That pretty much answers your other question aswell I think. You use it a places where you need to 'see' further than your camera drone allows.
You¦ll probably see the scanner as one of the most important tools in the game after the next patch. The scanner got some really heavy luvin on Chaos lately
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sutty
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Posted - 2003.11.24 15:48:00 -
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if both parties cant see each other there is no way to lock. you can no longer lock out the scanner ok :?
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slothe
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Posted - 2003.11.24 16:13:00 -
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i use scanners to try and find and player pirates who hide in a system im in. if you triangulate or scan a couple of times you can find them.with effort.
ps this thread would be short if people answered the question and didnt go off at tangents. why do people do this?
it seems like other people are craving attention NOT the author
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2003.11.24 16:19:00 -
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Quote: i use scanners to try and find and player pirates who hide in a system im in. if you triangulate or scan a couple of times you can find them.with effort.
ps this thread would be short if people answered the question and didnt go off at tangents. why do people do this?
it seems like other people are craving attention NOT the author
I actually know how to use the scanner, and I did not make this thread to get attention.
I belief I was done wrong upon by the GM¦s but cant do anything about except use these here forums.
Do you think that if I scan you while I am in another grid, no matter where I am, is that an exploit or not in your personal opinion.
Spawn of the Devil
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Ezra Vouland
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Posted - 2003.11.24 16:33:00 -
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Im to lazy to read everyone elses posts...
Last week some of the llaince guys and I spent an hour or so chasing some fool in a thorax with a MWD around 2 systems relying on scanners. This guy was wapring non stop to every damn moon, planet anything. After an hour we discoverd his retarted pattern by using the scanner at maximum range then pinpointing him down with directional scanner.
I would have to say this is a very good tool to use for podding the tards who like to fire on allies.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.24 18:44:00 -
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Quote: If you cant use it for that, then half of eve's PvP'ers need banning. How else can you track Josh Calvert to his safespot?
What the **** are you on about, n00b?
Get yourself involved in PvP instead of talking about it, dumb-ass.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.24 18:46:00 -
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I use the scanner to identify enemy ships and, when fighting CA, to make sure certain members *cough* Milk *cough* aren't sneaking up on us with grids near our location.
Grids have absolutely no effect on your ability to scan someone as long as they are within the 15au range of a scanner.
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pooti
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Posted - 2003.11.24 20:38:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: sutty on 24/11/2003 13:39:32 I use it to find people in space who think there safe. then track them down using the directional scanner, if there close enough a mwd if not mini warps dropping bookmarks till we get you.
oh and also the GM's dont know anything about there own game. ignore them, if it was illegal to use the scanner when the object you are scanning for is not on the same grid, then take the scanner out the game as it is useless. CCP tell your staff to engage there brains.
Yeah, one of my favorite things to do in eve.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.24 20:44:00 -
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Quote: oh and also the GM's dont know anything about there own game. ignore them, if it was illegal to use the scanner when the object you are scanning for is not on the same grid, then take the scanner out the game as it is useless. CCP tell your staff to engage there brains.
I believe the case in question was due to Player A being in the grid adjacent to the object/area he was scanning.
It's not a case of him being at Planet 3 Moon 1 and scanning Stargate ABC from 9.81au's away.
He was more likely to have been 100km's away in a grid.
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Ajnos Runecasting
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Posted - 2003.11.24 20:46:00 -
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I use the scanner to find rare roids in a system without jumping to every roid field.
I also use the scanner to see what Friendly Biomass People are sitting at what gate in EC-P8R and deciding if I want to try and run through it or log for the night
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Red-I
Anjos...
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2003.11.24 22:07:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: oh and also the GM's dont know anything about there own game. ignore them, if it was illegal to use the scanner when the object you are scanning for is not on the same grid, then take the scanner out the game as it is useless. CCP tell your staff to engage there brains.
I believe the case in question was due to Player A being in the grid adjacent to the object/area he was scanning.
It's not a case of him being at Planet 3 Moon 1 and scanning Stargate ABC from 9.81au's away.
He was more likely to have been 100km's away in a grid.
Does it matter where one is when using the scanner, since it is not possible to to use any grid exploits.
The point of having bookmarks in the next grid to stations and gates to be able to scan those places is to not having to scan all the other places that orbit the planet/moon.
Where excacly is the harm in being in the next grid to another player to scan him and his surroundings out?
I still want CCP to make it publicly known if that indeed is an exploit, if they wont then they pretty much admit that this is allowed.
It is not possible to say something is an exploit but not make it public knowlage, that means every other pirate hunter in FD-MLJ will be reported by me, since I know for a fact most of them use the grids next to the gates and JIP to scan.
So CCP get your act togather and give an answer, and do that as soon as possible. Spawn of the Devil
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.24 22:08:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
Quote: oh and also the GM's dont know anything about there own game. ignore them, if it was illegal to use the scanner when the object you are scanning for is not on the same grid, then take the scanner out the game as it is useless. CCP tell your staff to engage there brains.
I believe the case in question was due to Player A being in the grid adjacent to the object/area he was scanning.
It's not a case of him being at Planet 3 Moon 1 and scanning Stargate ABC from 9.81au's away.
He was more likely to have been 100km's away in a grid.
Does it matter where one is when using the scanner, since it is not possible to to use any grid exploits.
The point of having bookmarks in the next grid to stations and gates to be able to scan those places is to not having to scan all the other places that orbit the planet/moon.
Where excacly is the harm in being in the next grid to another player to scan him and his surroundings out?
I still want CCP to make it publicly known if that indeed is an exploit, if they wont then they pretty much admit that this is allowed.
It is not possible to say something is an exploit but not make it public knowlage, that means every other pirate hunter in FD-MLJ will be reported by me, since I know for a fact most of them use the grids next to the gates and JIP to scan.
So CCP get your act togather and give an answer, and do that as soon as possible.
Coming out of a grid does not induce a 10-second period of invulnerability.
That's why it is an exploit.
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2003.11.24 22:18:00 -
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Edited by: Omniwar on 24/11/2003 22:20:01
Quote: Coming out of a grid does not induce a 10-second period of invulnerability.
That's why it is an exploit.
I have not used it as such as all who have fought me see I warp in but I do not sneak in from another grid.
Landing 120-200km from an opponent is not ideal in a fight as he can warp out right away.
Do you really think it is an exploit to have a bookmark, warp to that bookmark and scan, gather info, warp back out to your friends and then gang warp in to the enemies after making decicions on who to kill first ?
*edit* if it is an exploit why did I have to learn about that in a private convercation with a game master, why has it not been made public knowlage ? Spawn of the Devil
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.24 22:41:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Omniwar on 24/11/2003 22:20:01
Quote: Coming out of a grid does not induce a 10-second period of invulnerability.
That's why it is an exploit.
I have not used it as such as all who have fought me see I warp in but I do not sneak in from another grid.
Landing 120-200km from an opponent is not ideal in a fight as he can warp out right away.
Do you really think it is an exploit to have a bookmark, warp to that bookmark and scan, gather info, warp back out to your friends and then gang warp in to the enemies after making decicions on who to kill first ?
*edit* if it is an exploit why did I have to learn about that in a private convercation with a game master, why has it not been made public knowlage ?
You can scan from 15au.
Why do you need to enter a grid 100km away from a point to scan someone?
More importantly, how come you're so adept at finding these grids and using them regularly enough that you were reported?
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pooti
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Posted - 2003.11.24 23:33:00 -
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Edited by: pooti on 24/11/2003 23:37:03
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Quote: Edited by: Omniwar on 24/11/2003 22:20:01
Quote: Coming out of a grid does not induce a 10-second period of invulnerability.
That's why it is an exploit.
I have not used it as such as all who have fought me see I warp in but I do not sneak in from another grid.
Landing 120-200km from an opponent is not ideal in a fight as he can warp out right away.
Do you really think it is an exploit to have a bookmark, warp to that bookmark and scan, gather info, warp back out to your friends and then gang warp in to the enemies after making decicions on who to kill first ?
*edit* if it is an exploit why did I have to learn about that in a private convercation with a game master, why has it not been made public knowlage ?
You can scan from 15au.
Why do you need to enter a grid 100km away from a point to scan someone?
More importantly, how come you're so adept at finding these grids and using them regularly enough that you were reported?
Joshua, next time you're in Curse (heh) go to LJ and try to do a long range scan. With 30+ asteroid belts.
Not gonna happen, or if it does, it's going to take over a half hour.
Even in systems with one or two belts doing a scan takes a few minutes. Unless you have a massive stalemate going on, this doesn't really do any good. As it is close-range scanning is the only way to really scan in a system without having your scanner lag to death (and note that while you're waiting for your scanner to finish nothing else will load - i tried warping from belt to belt in a system the other day while my scanner was scanning and the asteroids weren't showing up when i warped in! As soon as I closed my scanner they all popped up [as well as some npcs], also portraits do not load).
Come on, you know that.
Also, are safespots exploits then since they encourage moving in from other grids? I've had multiple kills/fights where I've scanned someone and then used the techniques sutty mentioned to find a ship; the only possible way to get there is by travelling through a grid (unless you plop down a ******* amazing bookmark). (Also, as omniwar said, you more often than not come out 100km+ from the ships you're going after).
Guess I should note that I've never travelled through a grid to get to a target when warping to an object was possible (for the above reason).
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.24 23:43:00 -
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There's a difference between warping through a grid to somewhere like a planet or gate and warping INTO a grid in order to negate the invul timer.
As for coming out 100km from a gate, ever heard of long-range guns?
Might not get battleships but with no invul timer you're quite likely to lock and destroy indies and possibly cruisers.
I've seen it in 36N at the gate leading to U-QVWD - 20 CA battleships hiding in the grid 30km behind that gate. Don't tell me they're all so inept at scanning it takes all 20 of them to scan the gate with nobody around it?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.11.24 23:45:00 -
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Quote: Joshua, next time you're in Curse (heh) go to LJ and try to do a long range scan. With 30+ asteroid belts.
Why should I bother going to Curse?
You fools are quite willing to come to us and thats how we like it.
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pooti
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Posted - 2003.11.24 23:56:00 -
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Edited by: pooti on 25/11/2003 00:00:42 Edited by: pooti on 24/11/2003 23:58:14 Joshua, can't you ever put that stuff aside and just discuss gameplay mechanics?
Personally, I've never scanned from a spot in a different grid. I have no grid bookmarks. I usually just go to the closet moon/planet. But I see no problem with those who do have bookmarks.
And again, we've both stated that we use warp to (as opposed to flying through) to get to the areas we're scanning that. I know you can't believe that anyone outside of Stain would ever play fairly, but for the sake of keeping the discussion from turning into a flamewar or anothing boring ca did this/sa did that thread can you at least try?
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And isn't the invul timer to protect the ship warping in rather than the one already there anyway? So it shouldn't even matter.
Also, I guess someone could stack a bunch of sensor boosters and long range turrets and try to sneak in and pop indies, but the other pilot would have to be pretty dumb to sit long enough to get locked and popped. And I haven't heard of this happening so I don't see the need to discuss it.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2003.11.25 01:49:00 -
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It doesn't take long to scan if you use a "tigh beam", i.e. 15¦ scan. You can avoid taking in most of the asteroids and such unless you are very unlucky.
Heck, you can do it with the 30¦ scan most of the time as well.
I'm starting to think we're getting a very one-sided version of what happened there... ------------------------------------------- "My main griveance with the Caldari state was that once I had finished my work for them, they wanted me dead."
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Viper Bronco
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Posted - 2003.11.25 01:51:00 -
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not gonna read 56 replys. simply I use scanner to see what is in any given system I might find myself in. then I use other functions of scanner to locate anything I see that might be worth exploring. is slow time consuming process. but can be very rewarding.
like way out deep in 0.0 space in my shuttle and find a nice fat cruiser parked with nobody home.... hehehe
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