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ghosttr
ARK-CORP Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.12.10 21:36:00 -
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I think frigates need the most love, they really dont have any job besides 1) tackle, and 2) die. On paper, they all have different roles, but In practice, all of the frigs are lumped into this singular role. |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.12.10 21:48:00 -
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Ferox Scythe Augoror Omen Maller Crucifier Tormentor Prophecy all E-War ships Cruor Ashimmu Coercer Retribution Sigil Procurer Hyperion Iteron I through IV Burst
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Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.12.10 22:00:00 -
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Eris = Needs more PG/CPU absolutely the worst interdictor to fit.
Assault Ships (4th bonus across the board = bonus to Afterburner speed) Eagle Legion
It's not Rocket Surgery |
Terminal Insanity
Convex Enterprises Unprovoked Aggression
148
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Posted - 2011.12.10 22:33:00 -
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Ibis needs a new model |
Florestan Bronstein
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
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Posted - 2011.12.10 22:46:00 -
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Electronic Attack Frigates
compared to T1 EWAR frigates and cruisers they just don't provide good value for the money they cost. |
Brynhilda
Massive PVPness EntroPraetorian Aegis
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Posted - 2011.12.10 23:07:00 -
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Phantasm needs an additional Midslot. Of all the pirate cruisers, the Phantasm is lacking a slot. How may I drug you with drugs? |
Opertone
Signal 7
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Posted - 2011.12.10 23:44:00 -
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ships that suck - freighter - can't cloak
capsule - can not catapult away from bubble
ugly ships suck and you know their names |
SpaceSquirrels
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Posted - 2011.12.11 02:50:00 -
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Ferox... It looks too cool to be so gimp.
Rokh could use some stat adjustments too now that I think about it...or a navy issue. (more cap less sig rad better scan res)
Maybe the tempest as it has just been replaced by the tornado. Make it another ewar bonus BS.
The t1 cruisers (most) need to all be reevaluated. |
Ral Darkmoon
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.12.11 03:08:00 -
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Definitely retribution needs another midslot.
Would love to see the Cyclone get a bit more love, that ship model is awesome. |
Benco97
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Posted - 2011.12.11 03:13:00 -
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Burst needs an increase to it's base cargo bay size to bring it in line with the other mining frigates. |
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Ines Tegator
Towels R Us
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Posted - 2011.12.11 03:15:00 -
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Kent Reeves wrote:Prophecy/Maller
Probably best to remove the tier system sub battleship, honestly.
We're working on that.
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Sefner
Rules of Acquisition Acquisition Of Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.11 04:34:00 -
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Of the assualt frigates the only ones that are about right are the Ishkur and Wolf (IMHO). The Amarr ones in particular need some love. Apart from AFs the T1 logi wannabes could use some tweaking. Im not suggesting an Exchequor should be as good as an Oneiros (lol) but something vaguely similiar but underpowered would work better than what we have now.
Tier 3 BCs were introduced as a niche ship. They do what they are supposed to do very well. Why shouldnt there be other ships with a similiar mindset? Frigates than can mount 1 large gun, Battleships that can use many many small guns with massive efficiency.
Ah OP was asking about existing ships so ill shut up. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2011.12.11 04:53:00 -
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ALL Gallente.
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.11 05:00:00 -
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All CCP-specific ships, mods and implants fail. Remove them from TQ, please. |
Kordoc
Death Metal Rooster
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Posted - 2011.12.11 06:28:00 -
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Anything with one mid-slot. |
Xenial Jesse Taalo
Tactical Nyan Cat Attack Force OMNIMODUS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2011.12.11 08:17:00 -
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I don't think the Coercer should get more than 1 slot. Yeah, it's terrible and such, but it's there for the variety of what that brings even if it is not a common one. More importantly, destroyers are destroyers - no boundaries to cross training them. No-one is stuck with a Coercer, so let it remain a kooky choice in my opinion.
The Retribution on the other hand... tough one. I would like to argue the same way - that it provides variety - but this time there are players who are really shafted without an alternative inside of a week's skill training, and that's before they even begin the cross-trained gunnery. Except, they get the Slicer. The Slicer is the saving grace of the Amarr frigs. So, dunno about the Retri.
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Vallek Arkonnis
Cosmic Cimmerians The G0dfathers
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Posted - 2011.12.11 18:31:00 -
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I can only go from experience and I've only flown amarr so here goes:
Drop the Retribution's utility high slot for a second mid
Add a bit more PG to the Omen
Swap the Punisher's 10% bonus to cap use to rate of fire or damage; there's no incentive to use energy turrets over, say, projectiles, even with the bonus they still use more cap. |
Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
159
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Posted - 2011.12.11 18:41:00 -
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Kordoc wrote:Anything with one mid-slot.
Any covert ops ship with only two high slots. |
Paragon Renegade
Solar Arbiters
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Posted - 2011.12.11 18:42:00 -
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ORE ships need to have a grid and CPU beyond that of a frigate The pie is a tautology |
ghost st
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.11 22:40:00 -
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Vallek Arkonnis wrote:I can only go from experience and I've only flown amarr so here goes:
Drop the Retribution's utility high slot for a second mid
Add a bit more PG to the Omen
Swap the Punisher's 10% bonus to cap use to rate of fire or damage; there's no incentive to use energy turrets over, say, projectiles, even with the bonus they still use more cap.
I like the retributions utility high slot |
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Lili Lu
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Posted - 2011.12.11 23:44:00 -
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Mr M wrote:Breacher Same tier as kestrel but don't have any edge except for being slightly faster.
Belicose Target painter bonus, projectile bonus and split weapon systems? Makes it kind of meh and nearly no one fly it. Target painters mostly good for missiles and the only missile boat minmatar has is the typhoon.
Hyena Web bonus is nice but a lot of times a vigil does the job better at a 1/10 of the price. And again, painter bonus.
Low tier industrials Not much point in getting on of these instead of the higher ones. Needs separate roles.
the top two would benefit from removal of the tier system. The Bellicose in particular should become a missile boat (and the tech II variants as well). The Hyena suffers from EAF syndrome (well the sentinel and kitsune don't need any buff, just maybe more hp like all of them do). |
Vio Geraci
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.12 01:06:00 -
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give the retribution two more high slots, one more low slot, and one less mid slot |
Doriana Grey
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.12 01:10:00 -
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Teleni Pavle wrote:DarkAegix wrote:All Caldari sub-battleships with a bonus to optimal range. Especially those with TWO bonuses to optimal range.
Especially ones that rhyme with "Smeagol." |
Inir Ishtori
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.12 02:12:00 -
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all amarr ships with just one slot need fixing.
helios: give it the old model back(or recoloured one of the current keres - DO EEEEET! ), + 1 high slot to fit a salvager(not a weapon slot), keep the drone. i wants it sooo bad .
myrmidon: moar drone bandwidth please (+25m-¦ seems reasonable) and a bit more capacity to hold additional drones.
amarr t1 BC getting a bit more dps would be nice. i like that hull, but the BC itself seems kind of useless. probably the worst of t1 BCs. |
ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group The Veerhouven Group
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Posted - 2011.12.12 03:04:00 -
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Thorax
One more mid slot.
I would OWN New Eden if that change was made. Location: Currently circling the toilet bowl that is Eve.
-áProud member of the 6%ers. |
Olleybear
I R' Carebear
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Posted - 2011.12.12 03:10:00 -
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I'm probably not going to be popular by saying this:
Nerf all Battlecruisers.
Everywhere you look people are flying battlecruisers. Specifically the Tier 2 variants. Battlecruisers shouldnt be passive tanking like a Tier 1 battleship, or better when it comes to the drake, and putting out nearly as good DPS across a wider range of targets.
Nerfing battlecruisers will make other ship classes a bit more viable and worthwhile to fly. For instance, battleships were much more popular before the Tier 2 battlecruisers came out, as were hacs.
When you go out on a roam, either solo or in gang, wouldn't you like to see and engage something different than battlecruisers? I sure would. |
Midori Tsu
Evolution The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.12.12 03:12:00 -
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Eos - Its pretty pointless to use, not to mention Information Warfare has no real valid use.
Prophecy - change the energy weapon bonus to a heavy assault missile rof bonus. |
Alara IonStorm
602
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Posted - 2011.12.12 03:13:00 -
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All Ewar Cruisers as effective in there roles as the Blackbird. Modeled off the highly successful Recon Class when it comes to bonus though less so then there T2 Counterparts. Basically duel Ewar Bonuses like the BB.
Effective T1 Logi. Change the second bonus to a Logi one. Lower the Training one the Procurer to Industry 4 to take over for the Osprey / Scythe.
All Combat Cruisers and Combat HAC's that are lacking. The Zealot and Vagabond have Niches that a Nanocane can not copy, all Cruisers should have there Niche.
T1 Ceptors.
Basically bye bye Tier System. |
The Snowman
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.12.12 03:23:00 -
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The problem isnt that some ships suck, its that some ships are just too awesome.
Take logistics ships.. its not that most of them suck, its that the Gaurdian is the best, which means that one ship, on its own makes many other ships suck.... essentially this means that actually, the guardian is the most sucky of them all because its existence means that your choice is limited to that one ship alone.
I know my analogy is flawed, but I think it makes the point.
Problem is, you cant go nerfing ships.. because people never see the truth for what it is... nerfing one thing, is a buff to another... but it will never be seen that way.
But i digress...
My choice is the Hyperion. A t3 BS, supposedly the top of its class.. but its two counter parts can do any task that you might ask a BS to do, but in a far better way. Buff Hyperion, or nerf Domi and mega. |
MadMuppet
Jarts
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Posted - 2011.12.12 04:32:00 -
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The smaller industrial ships should be permitted an extra turret high slot to allow them to auxiliary cruisers. The largest racial Industrials (mammoth, Iti V, etc), being king already, don't get the benefit.
The Procurer, FFS, at least give it a jump range boost or something. This things range is so pathetic that snails give it the finger when they pass it while it waits to recharge.
Oh can somebody fix the sound problem with the Noctis so that the salvager stops running? (or is that just a bug I hear?)
-Mad Never trust a soldier wearing velcroed insignia
While not perfect, I find the font at 13 pt and scaling at 90% to be pretty good, and overall better than the old font.-á |
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