I would improve all races/ethnics T1 logi cruisers...

I would improve all races/ethnics T1 logi cruisers...

Pretty much all the lower tier ships.

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The Malediction. It's like a set of self-contradictions. Range bonuses to scramblers but they give it rockets. Armour bonuses on an interceptor. The only thing it did well was look good, but thanks to Crucible that's gone too.
Keep the rockets, ditch the armour bonuses. Give it something that makes sense and is interesting. Random suggestion: 10% reduction in webifier speed penalty per level. 5% increase in rocket range. Big buffs I admit, but it's not like it's going to arrive anywhere near overpowered, and those ideas would make it less of a contradiction of bonuses.

Mine would be khanid ships.

Combines a close in weapons system that you need to get in close with, and a defense system that is counter productive to getting in close to your target.

All Caldari sub-battleships with a bonus to optimal range.

Amarrian Assault Frigates. one needs an extra mid slot and the other needs something else

Black Ops, the ship has like one grand thing it does, but the tradeoff is so high the ship is for the most part useless outside being a jump bridge.

Prophecy/Maller

Probably best to remove the tier system sub battleship, honestly.

Anything with one mid-slot.

I can only go from experience and I've only flown amarr so here goes:


Drop the Retribution's utility high slot for a second mid

Add a bit more PG to the Omen

Swap the Punisher's 10% bonus to cap use to rate of fire or damage; there's no incentive to use energy turrets over, say, projectiles, even with the bonus they still use more cap.

Breacher
Same tier as kestrel but don't have any edge except for being slightly faster.

Belicose
Target painter bonus, projectile bonus and split weapon systems? Makes it kind of meh and nearly no one fly it.
Target painters mostly good for missiles and the only missile boat minmatar has is the typhoon.

Hyena
Web bonus is nice but a lot of times a vigil does the job better at a 1/10 of the price. And again, painter bonus.

Low tier industrials
Not much point in getting on of these instead of the higher ones. Needs separate roles.

Especially those with TWO bonuses to optimal range.

Shuttles.... No weapons! WTF!

ok, likely E-war frigs. some are more useful than others, but they still are never used.

I'm probably not going to be popular by saying this:

Nerf all Battlecruisers.

Everywhere you look people are flying battlecruisers. Specifically the Tier 2 variants. Battlecruisers shouldnt be passive tanking like a Tier 1 battleship, or better when it comes to the drake, and putting out nearly as good DPS across a wider range of targets.

Nerfing battlecruisers will make other ship classes a bit more viable and worthwhile to fly. For instance, battleships were much more popular before the Tier 2 battlecruisers came out, as were hacs.

When you go out on a roam, either solo or in gang, wouldn't you like to see and engage something different than battlecruisers? I sure would.

Compare a tempest to a hurricane and you'll see this glaring you in the face.

I'm probably not going to be popular by saying this:

Nerf all Battlecruisers.

Everywhere you look people are flying battlecruisers. Specifically the Tier 2 variants. Battlecruisers shouldnt be passive tanking like a Tier 1 battleship, or better when it comes to the drake, and putting out nearly as good DPS across a wider range of targets.

Nerfing battlecruisers will make other ship classes a bit more viable and worthwhile to fly. For instance, battleships were much more popular before the Tier 2 battlecruisers came out, as were hacs.

When you go out on a roam, either solo or in gang, wouldn't you like to see and engage something different than battlecruisers? I sure would.

I don't think the Coercer should get more than 1 slot. Yeah, it's terrible and such, but it's there for the variety of what that brings even if it is not a common one. More importantly, destroyers are destroyers - no boundaries to cross training them. No-one is stuck with a Coercer, so let it remain a kooky choice in my opinion.

The Retribution on the other hand... tough one. I would like to argue the same way - that it provides variety - but this time there are players who are really shafted without an alternative inside of a week's skill training, and that's before they even begin the cross-trained gunnery. Except, they get the Slicer. The Slicer is the saving grace of the Amarr frigs. So, dunno about the Retri.

The Prophecy is for situations where survivability is a little more important than dps.

The Prophecy is for situations where survivability is a little more important than dps.

Except, that you can make the Harb more tanky then the Prophecy.

First of I would remove the HOLE 10% cap/level for laser bullshit and gave all this ships a base cap/recharg equal to 50% cap usage for laser to compensate it.

Next step I would check which REAL bonus this ships need as second bonus. Not all might need the same bonus.
A Maller with 5% RoF might be cool, a Abaddon with 5% RoF will be OP ... just as excample.

Next I would switch the remote energy bonus from T1 suport cruiser to remote rep bonus. Maybe this ship might be used then.
And yes, I know the Gallente has the same bonus .. but who cares. Nothing wrong when SOME ships from different races are very simmilar. It's a game and all that count is playablity.

The problem with the Prophecy and the Harbinger is that they both do the same thing in the same way: they're passive tanked laser platforms with a flight of drones. The Harbinger does this better than the Prophecy.

I disagree that the Prophecy is worth flying by the way, being good at taking damage is useless in this game if you can't dish it out as as well (and the Harbi does this better as I said). Nobody primaries a Prophecy, nobody is fooled by a bait Prophecy. To think this ship is worth flying is an illusion.

The Malediction. It's like a set of self-contradictions. Range bonuses to scramblers but they give it rockets. Armour bonuses on an interceptor. A tackle interceptor specialty of holding a super long point that its targeting can't even reach. The only thing it did well was look good, but thanks to Crucible that's gone too.
Keep the rockets, ditch the armour bonuses. Give it something that makes sense and is interesting. Random suggestion: 10% reduction in webifier speed penalty per level. 5% increase in rocket range. Big buffs I admit, but it's not like it's going to arrive anywhere near overpowered, and those ideas would make it less of a contradiction of bonuses.

All amarr laser ships that have cap "bonus"

imo all amarr laser boats should have a automatic 50% cap reduction for lasers and one of the following bonuses. Tracking/optimal range/damage/armour resis.

aintm ade my mind up about the curse/pilgrim and sentinal. only thing i can think of is ZERo cap usage on neuts.. but thats way too op.

thats all amarr laser boats need to be truely uqual with matar/galante ships.

Imicus, the hull that is.

Ships that suck, what ship would you change?

Ferox... It looks too cool to be so gimp.