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Ritchler Gallente Proof Or Stfu	Posted - 2006.12.18 15:22:00 - [1] Okay so here's the situation You join an alliance You join the corp thats in the alliance You buy a POS + 2 Months fuel and go to anchor it - ****, you can't - Why? Because you have to have starbase config, so for ceos who refuse to give roles, running a 0.0 or low sec pos for yourself is out the question CCP my question is this - Why can u not launch a POS for personal use, like when u anchor cans, u can anchor for corp or for yourself. So why can i do the same with a POS? CCP Please At Least Answer and if you agree, change the laws on it, make it so you can anchor it yourself If your gonan flame don't bother, dont even bother replying
Greylaw Amarr Ruined Inc. Amen Anera	Posted - 2006.12.18 15:24:00 - [2] Get a better CEO?
Ritchler Gallente Proof Or Stfu	Posted - 2006.12.18 15:29:00 - [3] Edited by: Ritchler on 18/12/2006 15:28:50 Originally by: Greylaw Get a better CEO? Does your brain actually just stop working when u hit reply? The role Config starbase means u can unanchore any corp pos or access it - Hence its nto given out lightly Think next time
BurnHard	Posted - 2006.12.18 15:31:00 - [4] I totally agree. However the rules about such things were created some time ago when it was mostly a specialist operation. These days everyone and their dog can do it without too much trouble (especially considering how easy it is to haul with transports and mine ice).
Plutoinum German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.12.18 15:38:00 - [5] Edited by: Plutoinum on 18/12/2006 15:38:36 Maybe two corp roles: role 1) masteraccess, e.g. for directors. They can access any pos. role 2) allows people to set-up a pos and grand access to others via passwords or an access list. Just an idea. That might also help with important poses like sovereignty poses. Giving the starbase config role to someone allows him to cause serious damage. That's why a CEO doesn't give it to everyone. Those two roles might solve it. CTD/con-loss vs. log-out. A proposal for a fix.
Bagehi Caldari BFG Industries	Posted - 2006.12.18 15:38:00 - [6] I agree. A POS is no longer something that requires an entire corp to run. The market stepped in handily because of demand. So now fuel delivery is available almost anywhere, reducing the requirements to run a POS to something a single person can easily handle. I'm assuming one of the problems with that is sovereignty though. If it isn't a "corp" POS, does it count towards the corp sovereignty or doesn't it? I don't know the code though, and probably couldn't decipher more than 1/10 of it anyways, so there may be a more far-reaching reason for the POS to not be anchorable by an individual.
Ritchler Gallente Proof Or Stfu	Posted - 2006.12.18 15:41:00 - [7] Keep teh replies coming guys, i really want ccp to rethink this and change it - POS should be able to be launched for one man only if he/she chooses
Alha Qmar Caldari Xenon Logistics	Posted - 2006.12.18 15:42:00 - [8] The answer in this matter is rather complicated. For the corp you buy 2 posses and brind them down to find out you cant use them. In the first place I would never even think of buying the posses untill the corp donates the required isk to purchase them, are hands them over to you for transport. Ofcourse you obviously didn't know of this untill you actualy tried to anchor those. Thats why I think that when you try to do such a thing you actualy should try it on the test server first. You there will also need the corp roles, and thus you should ask him for these roles. It normally can't cause any harm cause posses from tranquility are removed on the test server. But if he still refuses are don't agree with what u plan to do on the main server you atleast know where you are. As in any of these kind of cases always ask the corp's ceo before doing any risky investment.
Ritchler Gallente Proof Or Stfu	Posted - 2006.12.18 15:45:00 - [9] 300mil to me is nothing, i can assure you of that much - the point is There should eb an option to anchor POS for self not just corp Think you missed the point
Dark scarlet	Posted - 2006.12.18 15:47:00 - [10] /Signed Always wanted to be able to deploy POS's for personal use. ------ A Xeom Alt because i forgot to pay for my mains sub.
Angry Sheep Amarr Aur0ra	Posted - 2006.12.18 16:01:00 - [11] /signed.. It's a Dog eat Dog World out there and I'm wearing Milky Bone underwear
Agent Li Galactic Defence Consortium	Posted - 2006.12.18 16:04:00 - [12] If they do this, there will be POS fields the way we have can fields now, LOL
gfldex	Posted - 2006.12.18 16:18:00 - [13] Originally by: Ritchler There should eb an option to anchor POS for self not just corp Why? Back your opinion with arguments. There can only be one POS at any given moon. That makes a moon a territorial asset. As there is no way to declare war to a person for territorial conflicts (about sayed assets) deploying for personal use can not be allowed. A second not so abvious reason is that corp leaderships dont got much power beside the ability to kick members. Being able to allow you to deploy a POS for your own profit or to share employees in the profit of running POSes is one of the few powers a Corp got. Anyway why dont you ask one of the directors to anchor the POS for you? -- $ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill\|lost my ship\|gank\|gate camp\|Verone/;'
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2006.12.18 16:44:00 - [14] /Not Signed 1) There's the soveranigty issue 2) The POS was meant to be a corp effort. Those of you asking to do it on your own, you really don't know what involved. Is not about "OMG I have many ISKies so I can". Is not the iskies. Hauling the fuel is a pain. Procuring the fuel is a pain. For example, the darn "Enriched Uranium", 4 per our right, 2880 per month right, only 1m3 so It should be one trip right? wrong! Cuz when you check the market, there's only like 1000 units in the whole region, scattered accross different systems in groups of 16. It ends up being 100+ trips and in the end you loose one whole day. And that's only one fuel item, you still have like 10 more items to go. Also if you are alone, don't expect to have a vacation of more than 6 days without internet access. Finaly, before anchoring a POS, ppl should dedicate a few minutes to look at documentaries like this one: Linkage If you still don't think it's gonna happen to you, keep watching it till you do.
Siigari Kitawa Gallente HelpCorp United Eden's Fire	Posted - 2006.12.18 16:47:00 - [15] tl;dr, POSes are already a headache :(
Alice Magnum Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2006.12.18 16:48:00 - [16] Quote: 2) The POS was meant to be a corp effort. Those of you asking to do it on your own, you really don't know what involved. Is not about "OMG I have many ISKies so I can". Is not the iskies. Hauling the fuel is a pain. Procuring the fuel is a pain. Complete rubbish ......
Crumplecorn Gallente Aerial Boundaries Inc. Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.18 16:51:00 - [17] Edited by: Crumplecorn on 18/12/2006 16:51:17 Originally by: Alice Magnum Quote: 2) The POS was meant to be a corp effort. Those of you asking to do it on your own, you really don't know what involved. Is not about "OMG I have many ISKies so I can". Is not the iskies. Hauling the fuel is a pain. Procuring the fuel is a pain. Complete rubbish ...... 'Tis really, even if it was launched as a corp effort it only needs one guy to maintain it. I should know; I'm that guy \o/. Originally by: Ritchler Does your brain actually just stop working when u hit reply? Quote of the month, if not the year. ---------- IBTL \o/ EVE is upside down! WTZ+Slower Warp=Win
Ritchler Gallente Proof Or Stfu	Posted - 2006.12.18 16:52:00 - [18] Originally by: Shameless Avenger /Not Signed 1) There's the soveranigty issue 2) The POS was meant to be a corp effort. Those of you asking to do it on your own, you really don't know what involved. Is not about "OMG I have many ISKies so I can". Is not the iskies. Hauling the fuel is a pain. Procuring the fuel is a pain. For example, the darn "Enriched Uranium", 4 per our right, 2880 per month right, only 1m3 so It should be one trip right? wrong! Cuz when you check the market, there's only like 1000 units in the whole region, scattered accross different systems in groups of 16. It ends up being 100+ trips and in the end you loose one whole day. And that's only one fuel item, you still have like 10 more items to go. Also if you are alone, don't expect to have a vacation of more than 6 days without internet access. Finaly, before anchoring a POS, ppl should dedicate a few minutes to look at documentaries like this one: Linkage If you still don't think it's gonna happen to you, keep watching it till you do. WTS Clue Ddude since when where posses and its fuel ahrd to come buy? you can fuel a small pos for 50mil a month and if you have a ha nagr array @ your pos u can store the entire months fuel ithin the POS - i think you need to calm downa dn actually look @ things abit better
Quutar Caldari Auraxian Irregulars	Posted - 2006.12.18 17:04:00 - [19] I originally found that the corp I was in trusted me to handle the POSes for me to setup my own (now i handle all their poses... so I got promoted ^_^) Another option is to create your own corp and join that into the alliance? Not finding research slots in Empire Space? Try Quutar Research Services.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2006.12.18 17:20:00 - [20] Originally by: Ritchler WTS Clue Ddude since when where posses and its fuel ahrd to come buy? you can fuel a small pos for 50mil a month and if you have a ha nagr array @ your pos u can store the entire months fuel ithin the POS - i think you need to calm downa dn actually look @ things abit better I didn't meant is hard to get, I say it's a pain to haul due to it's time consuming nature. 50M for the small one true, but one full day procuring/hauling the things means 400M extra ISKies of "loss revenue" for me. By reffering to the small one, I asume you don't run many POSes. In my post I reffered to 4 enriched uranium per day and that's a big one. And it IS a pain to get it fueled.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2006.12.18 17:33:00 - [21] Originally by: Crumplecorn 'Tis really, even if it was launched as a corp effort it only needs one guy to maintain it. I should know; I'm that guy \o/. Yup, that's common on most corps. I have been aproached by my directors with the idea of hiring a noob who could drive an indy but still can't mission/rat/mine properly. Throw in one million per week and he will haul happy. I decided against it since I don't like to rip ppl off. Anyways, hauling the fuel being a pain is in great part a matter of opinion. If it's not a pain for you, go ahead. For me is an isk per hour issue and it's a pain. I'm not commenting more on the issue cuz I don't want to derail the OP's thread, just wanna say why I don't sign. If you want a POS for self, make yourself a one man corp.
Ritchler Gallente Proof Or Stfu	Posted - 2006.12.18 19:49:00 - [22] The fact is SA you are missing the entire point of thios thread
Ritchler Gallente Proof Or Stfu	Posted - 2006.12.19 07:51:00 - [23] i WANNA KNOW WHY CCP WONT REPLY TO THIS AND GIVE ME A VALID REASON WHY WE CANT LAUNCH pos FOR OURSELVES
Verite Rendition Caldari AUS Corporation CORE.	Posted - 2006.12.19 08:18:00 - [24] Originally by: Shameless Avenger /Not Signed 1) There's the soveranigty issue 2) The POS was meant to be a corp effort. Those of you asking to do it on your own, you really don't know what involved. Is not about "OMG I have many ISKies so I can". Is not the iskies. Hauling the fuel is a pain. Procuring the fuel is a pain. For example, the darn "Enriched Uranium", 4 per our right, 2880 per month right, only 1m3 so It should be one trip right? wrong! Cuz when you check the market, there's only like 1000 units in the whole region, scattered accross different systems in groups of 16. It ends up being 100+ trips and in the end you loose one whole day. And that's only one fuel item, you still have like 10 more items to go. Also if you are alone, don't expect to have a vacation of more than 6 days without internet access. Finaly, before anchoring a POS, ppl should dedicate a few minutes to look at documentaries like this one: Linkage If you still don't think it's gonna happen to you, keep watching it till you do. Clearly you've never purchased POS fuel. The NPCs at a station restock it the minute you buy some. So if it's a station that specializes in EU (100+ units for sale), you only need to keep buying more EU from them until you have enough, they'll restock it the moment you buy some. It's the same for all NPC-supplied fuel. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic
Artmedis Valben Gallente Lobster of Babel	Posted - 2006.12.19 08:19:00 - [25] Its a territorial issue 1) one POS per moon 2) sovernity in 0.0 is determined on the basis of POSes 3) only a corp/alliance can be war decced (and territory fought over) An "easy" workaround is to form your own corp for POS deployment, and if you want to still operate with you present corp/alliance you can have your corp join the alliance. That way you can grant your alliance members some access to your POS if you want. This can also be done with one of your two alts or a second account. ___________________________________________ Selling BPCs of almost all seeded BPOs. Lobster of Babel currently holds 641 of the 649 Tech 1 BPOs seeded.
Ritchler Gallente Proof Or Stfu	Posted - 2006.12.19 12:20:00 - [26] Originally by: Artmedis Valben Its a territorial issue 1) one POS per moon 2) sovernity in 0.0 is determined on the basis of POSes 3) only a corp/alliance can be war decced (and territory fought over) An "easy" workaround is to form your own corp for POS deployment, and if you want to still operate with you present corp/alliance you can have your corp join the alliance. That way you can grant your alliance members some access to your POS if you want. This can also be done with one of your two alts or a second account. If you are a member of an alliance like i am who owns space liek i am, there is no reason why u should not be able to anchor one fr yourself
UK Glum Gallente Azure Horizon	Posted - 2006.12.19 13:09:00 - [27] Originally by: Verite Rendition Clearly you've never purchased POS fuel. The NPCs at a station restock it the minute you buy some. So if it's a station that specializes in EU (100+ units for sale), you only need to keep buying more EU from them until you have enough, they'll restock it the moment you buy some. It's the same for all NPC-supplied fuel. Actually having just started purchasing the said 16 units from NPCs, I think you'll find that a) the price changes for the next listing, and b) it only relists once. So you only get 32 units from each NPC. There are also 175 unit NPCs too, giving 350 units from them.
Shino Tu Caldari Kaaii-Net Research Labs	Posted - 2006.12.19 14:39:00 - [28] Region wide buy orders.. 10,000 units @ 3 months. First purchase(s) for initial start up, a pain yes, but not undoable. First month, aproxx 1000 units scattered around. Enter the courier mission game. Gather units in several hubs. Go to hubs and collect. It gets even easier from there.... "Unhappy people expect the world to adapt to them and happy people adapt to the world."
UK Glum Gallente Azure Horizon	Posted - 2006.12.19 14:44:00 - [29] Edited by: UK Glum on 19/12/2006 14:45:13 Thats what I've done. The initial 3000 units I've wandered around and picked up from the NPCs and set a couple of buy orders up with a 3 jump radius so not too much running around. Almost got next months quota and they've only been up a few days same goes for heavy water, isotopes etc etc anyway thats not the point of the OP. I'm setting up a seperate corp just for my POS project and I'm getting a set of alts to run it for me.
Edsel Dominus Nihil Development	Posted - 2006.12.19 16:36:00 - [30] Originally by: Ritchler Originally by: Artmedis Valben Its a territorial issue 1) one POS per moon 2) sovernity in 0.0 is determined on the basis of POSes 3) only a corp/alliance can be war decced (and territory fought over) An "easy" workaround is to form your own corp for POS deployment, and if you want to still operate with you present corp/alliance you can have your corp join the alliance. That way you can grant your alliance members some access to your POS if you want. This can also be done with one of your two alts or a second account. If you are a member of an alliance like i am who owns space liek i am, there is no reason why u should not be able to anchor one fr yourself So make your own corp and have it join the alliance then you can do whatever you wish. It's not a hard concept. The reasons why you cannot do it have already been listed several times. It's an issue with soverignty, component access and so on. Every control in game for POS's is a corp based concept, so make a corp. The dev's have more to worry about then individuals wanting to own a POS but arent willing to take the steps with the game mechanics that have been in game for eons. You dont own your 0.0 space, your alliance does, and your alliance is a collective of corps. An individual cannot own the area. There is a pattern there.
Sexorella hotz Beasts of Burden	Posted - 2006.12.19 18:48:00 - [31] Alright, short and easy answer, if you could launch for yourself then you could launch while in a noob corporation...which means you can't be war decced, which means basically no one can hurt you or your POS efforts, eliminating risk from the situtation. No risk means people if they so chose could drop POS's everywhere, and for anyone to try and take down the POS, while its offline or what have you, will have to take security hits across the board for attacking a strategic asset that should have some attatched accountability. So basically, the point of only being able to launch for a corporation is so that the owners have to remain accountable.
Quutar Caldari Auraxian Irregulars	Posted - 2006.12.19 19:13:00 - [32] can't anchor a pos unless you have the starbase config role while you are in noob corp you don't have the starbase config role for the newb corp, so no nub corp pos Not finding research slots in Empire Space? Try Quutar Research Services.
Sexorella hotz Beasts of Burden	Posted - 2006.12.19 19:16:00 - [33] Originally by: Quutar can't anchor a pos unless you have the starbase config role while you are in noob corp you don't have the starbase config role for the newb corp, so no nub corp pos The thread is about allowing individuals to anchor their own POS's...if that is allowed then what I described would be the result.
Ritchler Gallente Proof Or Stfu	Posted - 2006.12.19 23:16:00 - [34] Originally by: Sexorella hotz Originally by: Quutar can't anchor a pos unless you have the starbase config role while you are in noob corp you don't have the starbase config role for the newb corp, so no nub corp pos The thread is about allowing individuals to anchor their own POS's...if that is allowed then what I described would be the result. DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POS ANY POS CAN BE SHOT @ God would u idiots please stop replying to this thread, your the biggest bunch of wannabe no it alls i have ever met POS are forthe msot part low sec/0.0 which means they can be shot @ by anybody with a dread, omg I WANT the ability to launch a pos for yourself and as for you sexorella when u obviously have no clue - geez
Nulvak CEO Caldari The Warcry Corporation	Posted - 2006.12.20 06:48:00 - [35] / not signed I agree with the sov issues. and ritchler maybe its you who needs to calm down a bit. Each of the points brought up by the people answering your question are very valid and explain why ccp does not allow solo anchoring of POS's. If anyone could anchor a pos for themselves it would bring chaos imo. specially doing empire anchoring. In empire if you anchored a CT for yourself who ever tried to attack it would get smacked by concord which would basically make the tower untouchable. I agree with keep it a corp function like it was inteded to be. And if it upsets people that much that they cant anchor their very own POS then maybe WoW is more their speed imo
Sexorella hotz Beasts of Burden	Posted - 2006.12.20 07:04:00 - [36] Edited by: Sexorella hotz on 20/12/2006 07:05:28 Not to flame or whatsover, though I'm drunk atm, just got home and what to say my peace...I think the biggest issue about launching for self is the fact that people need to be able to go at war with you. In high sec, if you go to the effort to develop the standing, your POS is invulnerable as is with the help from CONCORD, but in LOW sec, if people want your moon, they need to be able to attack you directly, and I think its a right they have. If you can launch from a noob corp, then that kills hte one hope they have. A low sec POS requires no real effort besides investment, which is something you can develop from a noob corp. Forcing you to launch it as a CORP asset requires that your corp be willing to defend it. If you launch it as a individual, you're given way too much invulnerability. A POS is a logistic effort, and that logigistic effort should be possible to interfere with, based on the gains you can get from it. Which requires poeple be able to declare war on the holders of the POS. War cannot be declared on individuals, but on corporations, which in my opinion, should be an option, and why POS's will never be allowed to be launched by individuals, end of story. Time to pass out, cheers
Sexorella hotz Beasts of Burden	Posted - 2006.12.20 13:48:00 - [37] Originally by: Ritchler Originally by: Sexorella hotz Originally by: Quutar can't anchor a pos unless you have the starbase config role while you are in noob corp you don't have the starbase config role for the newb corp, so no nub corp pos The thread is about allowing individuals to anchor their own POS's...if that is allowed then what I described would be the result. DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POS ANY POS CAN BE SHOT @ God would u idiots please stop replying to this thread, your the biggest bunch of wannabe no it alls i have ever met POS are forthe msot part low sec/0.0 which means they can be shot @ by anybody with a dread, omg I WANT the ability to launch a pos for yourself and as for you sexorella when u obviously have no clue - geez Damn dude, being a ** over game mechanics, anonymity=douche bag all the time...any POS can be shot at is a fact, but for most corps, shooting down a low sec POS is not an option, they are much, much harder to take down then put up. I've personally run POS's and I've been involved in alliance POS warfare for some time, I guess I have no clue, but seems to me there'd be POS's everywhere from noobs like yourself who just wanna put them down for the of it and let them go to waste, and then people will have to waste their time and money popping your offlined POS, as it will be when you realize it was a waste of time, or your solo effort burned you out on the game and you left. Empire POS would also obviously be an issue, cause any player can personally get the standings to drop a POS in empire, what makes it hard is getting corp standings in a reasonably sized corp, so we'd have fields of POS's in empire, wouldn't that be fantastic... As for being able to shoot at the owner of the POS, that's just as important as being able to shoot the POS itself, and a much easier way to get the damn things shut down, much easier than fielding a fleet of dreads if the guy actually has good defenses on it. That's why they shouldn't be able to do it from a noob corp, anyways, enjoy your rant and enjoy being a ** about it.
Ritchler Gallente Proof Or Stfu	Posted - 2006.12.21 00:27:00 - [38] Originally by: Sexorella hotz Originally by: Ritchler Originally by: Sexorella hotz Originally by: Quutar can't anchor a pos unless you have the starbase config role while you are in noob corp you don't have the starbase config role for the newb corp, so no nub corp pos The thread is about allowing individuals to anchor their own POS's...if that is allowed then what I described would be the result. DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POS ANY POS CAN BE SHOT @ God would u idiots please stop replying to this thread, your the biggest bunch of wannabe no it alls i have ever met POS are forthe msot part low sec/0.0 which means they can be shot @ by anybody with a dread, omg I WANT the ability to launch a pos for yourself and as for you sexorella when u obviously have no clue - geez Damn dude, being a ** over game mechanics, anonymity=douche bag all the time...any POS can be shot at is a fact, but for most corps, shooting down a low sec POS is not an option, they are much, much harder to take down then put up. I've personally run POS's and I've been involved in alliance POS warfare for some time, I guess I have no clue, but seems to me there'd be POS's everywhere from noobs like yourself who just wanna put them down for the of it and let them go to waste, and then people will have to waste their time and money popping your offlined POS, as it will be when you realize it was a waste of time, or your solo effort burned you out on the game and you left. Empire POS would also obviously be an issue, cause any player can personally get the standings to drop a POS in empire, what makes it hard is getting corp standings in a reasonably sized corp, so we'd have fields of POS's in empire, wouldn't that be fantastic... As for being able to shoot at the owner of the POS, that's just as important as being able to shoot the POS itself, and a much easier way to get the damn things shut down, much easier than fielding a fleet of dreads if the guy actually has good defenses on it. That's why they shouldn't be able to do it from a noob corp, anyways, enjoy your rant and enjoy being a ** about it. God you are a nub arnt u? you really think this is my main? silly boy War deccing an owner of a pos does jack all, stront keeps the pos in reinforced duh god your stupid
Nulvak CEO Caldari The Warcry Corporation	Posted - 2006.12.21 07:42:00 - [39] And that children is why we dont smoke *****
Kirjava Caldari Storm Thesis	Posted - 2006.12.21 09:27:00 - [40] /sighned If my members want to make their own POS and I dont trust them with access to farms of POS, why shouldent they do it? Storm Thesis CEO
Vincent Almasy Gallente The Underground	Posted - 2006.12.21 18:31:00 - [41] if you personsonaly put up a pos what is the point, if it's for self then no one else in the corp can use or to fuel it. He can't count for sov because, you guess it has it's part of a alliance, only corporations are part of an alliance, not a single player.
danya M. Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.22 12:22:00 - [42] The only way i can see for u to have your own pos is to create an alt and start ure own one man corp. I dont know where u want to set this pos up or what ure going to do with it but this method will probbably stop u from setting it up in either empire hi sec or alliance 0.0, u may be able to set one up in npc 0.0 though, then all u have to do is log ure alt out at the pos set a password on the forcefield and ure main can then have access for fuel delivery etc. i think this will solve most of ure problems
roadrage639 Caldari SHADOW FLEET	Posted - 2006.12.23 01:26:00 - [43] /signed Making it luanchable for 1 man would be so much better! The Man Who Runs Will Fight Again
Leonardo Sabrioski Caldari Shadow Eden Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.06 11:36:00 - [44] Gotta few questions: -If you are not war decced can the POS be shot? (defended by Concord) -If war decced can you offline modules and online defending modules while having a corporation standing lower than the system requirement? -If the corporation standing drops will you lose access to the tower? -What is the best way to get a 5.0-7.0 faction standing? -Could I hire someone? -why am I asking these questions...? -Oops? ----------------------------------------------
JdJinator	Posted - 2007.02.06 11:50:00 - [45] /Signed I'd also would like to run a personal POS within a corp. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Taiatia (mods@ccpgames)
Daikonos Brutor tribe	Posted - 2007.02.11 06:51:00 - [46] I ask the same questions as Leonardo Sabrioski. ---------- Landmarks ftw. Also drones, drones rock too.
Max Grief Minmatar Wreckless Abandon The UnAssociated	Posted - 2007.02.12 07:58:00 - [47] Edited by: Max Grief on 12/02/2007 07:55:32 /not signed If your CEO doesn't trust you enough to give you the roles well, then you obviously aren't trustworthy enough so don't come dragging how you can't win the corp popularity contest onto the forums M'Kay? To the people saying that POS's aren't a solo deal, well your wrong I've personally maintained 2 Larges + 1 Small running rations in 0.0 Solo. Its really not that difficult. It takes time thats all. Finnaly, if you want to have your own POS make your own corp, get your CEO or a director to set it to +10 and drop it with an alt. Otherwise POS's are designed to benefit the entire corp/alliance by offering a place to refit, re-arm, and retreat too. They can also provide alliance m8's with new ships deep in 0.0 or allow BPO research. Stop being so greedy and share or do what one of the other posters said and get a director to drop the stick for ya if you have friends in corp i'm sure one of them would be glad to do it for you, if not, find a new corp bud cause this game is about helping eachother out not putting on a tin foil hat as the trend of late seems to be. PS i totaly agree with Sexorella hotz, Noop corp POS's, that makes me shudder to think of just what a nightmare that would unleash....
Athren Soulsteal Gallente Intergalaxy Salvage And Repair	Posted - 2007.02.12 15:59:00 - [48] /Also not signed. EVE is supposed to be a corp warfare game, not a solo one (though more and more of the new players don't seem to understand this). I also wanted a personal POS simply because finding a research slot now days in empire is a joke. However I did it the way the rules allow, I gave up all my rights and roles in my Main corp and started a 1 person corp in order to put up and run my high sec and low sec POS. The reasions I did this was so that if I PO another corp by my actions of placing a POS, they could Wardq me not my main corp. Thus I am only risking my self and my assets for my actions. See true Risk V Reward, I would never put my main corp at risk because of my own personal actions. I do agree that there is a point where a personal POS is a necessity and actually not that hard to manage and maintain but we must never allow the good of the few to outway the good of the many (corp). Thats why I fight so hard to get the word out for CCP to end the Prat welfare programs, they like allowing personal POS only promote the MEism ("I")in EVE. And MEism in any MMOG is bad for the game and the community. Besides, fly to any .5 systems moon and try to find one that does not have a POS there. Instaid of asking for your own POS get behind one of the suggestions that a lot of us have made to revamp POS. Like for instance (shameless plug) My sugesstion for personal hangers at POS. You corp has a POS and you bring and anchor your own "habitat" that has as many internal modules as you want to add (repair, research, bar,,,) and to run it you provide the fuel in your personal storage. Thus would allow you (passworded)and only you to access your stuff, thus providing what you want while helping to maintain the corp's POS. Quote: Think about the people that did fight you fairly. Think.... that were honorable and helped you out in times of need. Those are the real heroes of EVE. I wish I could fit all the Quote
Malus Drake Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.13 00:05:00 - [49] /Signed For all of you using this: Originally by: Artmedis Valben Its a territorial issue 1) one POS per moon 2) sovernity in 0.0 is determined on the basis of POSes 3) only a corp/alliance can be war decced (and territory fought over) as a reason for why you can't anchor a pos for yourself, I have some information for you. 1) Number of POS's at a moon is irrevelent 2) To claim soverenty in 0.0 the pos has to be in 0.0. Last time I checked, you don't have to be at war to engage a POS (or anything) in 0.0. 3) Not all POS's have to be claiming soverenty. This is an option when you anchor the POS. If you launch for self, you have this option not available - solves that issue. 4) If the pos is in low sec, soverenty doesn't matter since you can claim over empire systems. 5) If this is still an issue, how bought if a POS was launched for self and someone wanted to destroy it, all they had to do was wardec the corp you're in. If they're at war with you, they're at war with all assets you own. __ __ _________ i'M aN iNSTiGaTaÆ NuKKa CaN'T you See
Chewan Mesa Beagle Corp	Posted - 2007.02.13 11:11:00 - [50] I agree, having a 2nd role that allows you to anchor POSs for yourself, which is only configurable by yourself is needed. With restrictions to Sov, aka simply not being able to claim sov, and maybe limiting them to low sec/0.0, since an empire POS from someone in a noob-corp can NOT be taken down, since the GMs are simply going to recharge its shields, as you need to have a wardec on it. While you wait for that, get your alt into his own corp, train anchoring lvl 2, get + standings with your mains corp and put the POS down?

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