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Shi'ara Na'suhl
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2006.12.19 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: Marine HK4861 The reason why is because death means a lot more in this game than compared to other games.
Therefore when you get shot at, the penalty for dying isn't a few minute walk from the respawn point, but possibly losing several month's work.
This threat of losing so much triggers the fight/flight response, hence why you get the shakes, much like the threat of getting bottled on a night out on the town in Leeds.
Like this fine gent. said; you run the risk of losing what is valuable to you.
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Quan Ko
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Posted - 2006.12.19 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: BurnHard I'm a casual player - that is, I play maybe a few hours a night, not every day and I sometimes quit the game for months at a time. I'm not really a big earner, in fact I can safely say in all my Eve career I've probably earned about as much as I've lost. I earn it in small amounts and lose it big. It just so happens I'm relatively up at the moment (by a few bill). I can't honestly say I care that much about it either. I can take it or leave it and I do often - to play other games (like UT, FPS, stuff like that) or work or study or go out into the big wide world and make merry with my homies.
So can somebody please tell me why it is when I'm traveling through 0.0 in a hauler and I get targeted, or when I get ganked by a camp I couldn't care less about or encounter some red flashing lights at gates, my heart races like it's going to explode out of my chest and my face turns red as a tomato? It's happened so many times I should be used to it by now.
I'm thinking of getting some beta blockers from my doctor. It's a strange phenomenon that I would love to know more about. If anyone can express a theory as to why I don't get these symptoms from any other video game or come to think of it, any other circumstance apart from going out in Leeds on a Friday night, I would appreciate it
You are experiencing an adrenaline rush triggered by the fight-or-flight response.
"Normally, when a person is in a serene, unstimulated state, the "firing" of neurons in the locus ceruleus is minimal. A novel stimulus (which could include a perception of danger or an environmental stressor signal such as elevated sound levels or over-illumination), once perceived, is relayed from the sensory cortex of the brain through the thalamus to the brain stem. That route of signaling increases the rate of noradrenergic activity in the locus ceruleus, and the person becomes alert and attentive to the environment. Similarly, an abundance of catecholamines at neuroreceptor sites facilitates reliance on spontaneous or intuitive behaviors often related to combat or escape.
If a stimulus is perceived as a threat, a more intense and prolonged discharge of the locus ceruleus activates the sympathetic division of the autonomic nervous system (Thase & Howland, 1995). This activation is associated with specific physiological actions in the system, both directly and indirectly through the release of epinephrine (adrenaline) and to a lesser extent norepinephrine from the medulla of the adrenal glands. The release is triggered by acetylcholine released from preganglionic sympathetic nerves. The other major player in the acute stress response is the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis."
More on it here: Linkage
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James Duar
Merch Industrial
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Posted - 2006.12.19 01:58:00 -
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In fairness I'm hoping the feeling will continue to dull some since it's really hard to control your ship when you're shaking uncontrollably.
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BurnHard
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Posted - 2006.12.19 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Quan Ko
You are experiencing an adrenaline rush triggered by the fight-or-flight response.
"Normally, when a person is in a serene, unstimulated state, the "firing" of neurons in the locus ceruleus is minimal. A novel stimulus (which could include a perception of danger or an environmental stressor signal such as elevated sound levels or over-illumination), once perceived, is relayed from the sensory cortex of the brain through the thalamus to the brain stem. That route of signaling increases the rate of noradrenergic activity in the locus ceruleus, and the person becomes alert and attentive to the environment. Similarly, an abundance of catecholamines at neuroreceptor sites facilitates reliance on spontaneous or intuitive behaviors often related to combat or escape.
If a stimulus is perceived as a threat, a more intense and prolonged discharge of the locus ceruleus activates the sympathetic division of the autonomic nervous system (Thase & Howland, 1995). This activation is associated with specific physiological actions in the system, both directly and indirectly through the release of epinephrine (adrenaline) and to a lesser extent norepinephrine from the medulla of the adrenal glands. The release is triggered by acetylcholine released from preganglionic sympathetic nerves. The other major player in the acute stress response is the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis."
More on it here: Linkage .
Ah yes - it's my "old brain", not the new kit (cortex) causing the trouble. It just goes to show how much we are under the control of our instincts. It must mean I have suspended my disbelief while playing. It's odd though, because I don't get that feeling when I play UT 2004.
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Azural Kane
Caldari Ravensmurgh Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.19 22:16:00 -
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Love the adrenaline rush.
I've gotten it from many games, especially in PVP where you have something to "lose".
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Azural Kane
Caldari Ravensmurgh Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.19 22:17:00 -
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Edited by: Azural Kane on 19/12/2006 22:23:30
Originally by: BurnHard
Originally by: Quan Ko
You are experiencing an adrenaline rush triggered by the fight-or-flight response.
"Normally, when a person is in a serene, unstimulated state, the "firing" of neurons in the locus ceruleus is minimal. A novel stimulus (which could include a perception of danger or an environmental stressor signal such as elevated sound levels or over-illumination), once perceived, is relayed from the sensory cortex of the brain through the thalamus to the brain stem. That route of signaling increases the rate of noradrenergic activity in the locus ceruleus, and the person becomes alert and attentive to the environment. Similarly, an abundance of catecholamines at neuroreceptor sites facilitates reliance on spontaneous or intuitive behaviors often related to combat or escape.
If a stimulus is perceived as a threat, a more intense and prolonged discharge of the locus ceruleus activates the sympathetic division of the autonomic nervous system (Thase & Howland, 1995). This activation is associated with specific physiological actions in the system, both directly and indirectly through the release of epinephrine (adrenaline) and to a lesser extent norepinephrine from the medulla of the adrenal glands. The release is triggered by acetylcholine released from preganglionic sympathetic nerves. The other major player in the acute stress response is the hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis."
More on it here: Linkage .
Ah yes - it's my "old brain", not the new kit (cortex) causing the trouble. It just goes to show how much we are under the control of our instincts. It must mean I have suspended my disbelief while playing. It's odd though, because I don't get that feeling when I play UT 2004.
In UT2004 you have nothing to lose. You respawn in 5 seconds, pick up a gun, and you're off.
Used to happen to me a lot in UO PVP, and in other MMO's. But Eve probably tops the list, because, well, you can easily lose days, weeks, or potentially even months worth of progress.
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Mallikanth
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.12.19 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: BurnHard *snip*... my heart races like it's going to explode out of my chest and my face turns red as a tomato? It's happened so many times I should be used to it by now. *snip*
I get the same thing. It's the ONLY game I've EVER played that does that to me. The Main reason by Far I love this game.
The difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong, it usually turns out to be impossible |
Wild Rho
Amarr Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2006.12.19 22:35:00 -
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When me and some mates were learning pvp for the first time we would have to take breaks after each engagement just to let the shakes fade away.
I have the body of a supermodel. I just can't remember where I left it.
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Kyguard
Fire Mandrill Astrophobics
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Posted - 2006.12.19 23:16:00 -
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If you don't pvp for a while and you start again like I did, you will get the shakes. Although not as violent, I basically just had twitching fingers and trouble moving my mouse to lock the pod -
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.19 23:19:00 -
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i probed an abandoned punisher, then used it as it 1v1 against another punisher as is, and the heart still got going.
there more to it then a tangible loss. Its why im still playing eve going on 2 years.
Originally by: Tuxford Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us
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Goberth Ludwig
The Establishment Establishment
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Posted - 2006.12.19 23:36:00 -
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True its not just the tangible loss... its hard to tell what it is tbh. Truth is you the shakes dont even really depend on how much the ship is expensive - more about how much you are scared - as in, not being in control. Basically I think the shakes show up when for any reason you feel you are not "safe" or on "in control" anymore, even if you dont really care about the loss.
- Gob
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