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Aaron Eternal Frontier 309	Posted - 2015.09.16 22:25:03 - [1] - Quote Dear CCP, I'd like for you to acknowledge that the RL cost of PLEX is having a negative effect on the player numbers. Lots of people are leaving and are finding it difficult to play the game because of limited time and RL finance. The goal of this petition is to request the revision of the RL cost of PLEX so that it is closer to the monthly sub cost. A lower RL PLEX cost may prompt the PLEX for isk sellers to lower their prices which will help PLEX users stay in the game. If the PLEX sellers have no customers we could see the plex sellers also leave the game. Please accept these signatures that will show the depth of support on this matter. Yours Faithfully, N.B. This is a serious thread which is intended to show the opinions of the players on this very important matter. _____________________________________________________________________________ Please sign this thread, I believe it is crucial to keeping Eve alive. Please try to keep this thread free of trolling because it is important, let us ensure that this thread stays open. Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
Yang Aurilen The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 874	Posted - 2015.09.16 22:39:41 - [2] - Quote So you're petitioning CCP to actually nerf their income? Yeah that sounds good. Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Aaron Eternal Frontier 309	Posted - 2015.09.16 22:42:14 - [3] - Quote Yang Aurilen wrote: So you're petitioning CCP to actually nerf their income? Yeah that sounds good. Hi, I'll report this and get it deleted. I'm only interested in signatures here. Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
Vollhov Senators of Eridan Red Alliance 248	Posted - 2015.09.16 22:43:18 - [4] - Quote Remove plex with the game? Thanks you -í-íP Falcon "that helped to quit EVE" Jamyl Sarum "Good and evil" Jamyl Sarum in "EVE: Templar One" Jamyl the Great
Luckytania Bullets of Justice 38	Posted - 2015.09.16 22:45:09 - [5] - Quote My preference would be for the per PLEX price to be double the real money cost of a one month subscription.
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 9221	Posted - 2015.09.16 22:50:44 - [6] - Quote Lowering the price of PLEX will either be the best thing that has happened to the game...or the worst. Only one way to find out. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Webvan All Kill No Skill 13964	Posted - 2015.09.16 22:54:16 - [7] - Quote Aaron wrote: Lots of people are leaving and are finding it difficult to play the game because of limited time and RL finance. Source? I'm in it for the money Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Yang Aurilen The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 878	Posted - 2015.09.16 22:57:00 - [8] - Quote Aaron wrote: Yang Aurilen wrote: So you're petitioning CCP to actually nerf their income? Yeah that sounds good. Hi, I'll report this and get it deleted. I'm only interested in signatures here. So you want this thread to be an echo chamber wherein only those who agree with you will have their posts visible and all those who voice otherwise will be reported by you to have their posts deleted? You should try Reddit then because there is a built-in feature for that. Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
Loki Yamaguchi Level 42 Industries 2	Posted - 2015.09.16 22:59:37 - [9] - Quote My guess is that RL PLEX prices should counter ingame(IG) prices with a fixed minimum. ie as the price UG rises as it is now, the RL price falls and encourages more people to buy PLEX with $-ÑGé¼. As the IG price falls due to the oversupply of PLEX then the RL price rises again. Getting the balance right is key but as long it was done openly then tweaks would not be an issue as long as the multipliers were nudged in small increments. Just like all EVE commodities, prices rise and fall...RL PLEX should follow that truism too... SHORT ANSWER: No to a fixed price drop
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 26084	Posted - 2015.09.16 23:10:32 - [10] - Quote Aaron wrote: Dear CCP, I'd like for you to acknowledge that the RL cost of PLEX is having a negative effect on the player numbers. Why would they? Also, nah. Not signed. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2.
Dradis Aulmais RW Vindicator Connection Phoebe Freeport Republic 1019	Posted - 2015.09.16 23:10:58 - [11] - Quote In before the lock Another plex is too high thread So your saying that despite the team of economist that ccp has telling them to stay out the way they should ignore them and change plex prices to suit your needs? Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896 Free The Scope Three
Aaron Eternal Frontier 309	Posted - 2015.09.16 23:37:11 - [12] - Quote Dradis Aulmais wrote: In before the lock Another plex is too high thread So your saying that despite the team of economist that ccp has telling them to stay out the way they should ignore them and change plex prices to suit your needs? The team of economists should be sacked imo. A more socialist attitude needs to be applied. What are we saying here? **** the poor people? Yes, PLEX prices should be changed to suit my needs. My need is for Eve to remain online for a very long time. If the PLEX customer base vanishes then a few thousand people will leave. Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
Raiz Nhell Demon-War-Lords SpaceMonkey's Alliance 425	Posted - 2015.09.16 23:40:09 - [13] - Quote Aaron wrote: Yang Aurilen wrote: So you're petitioning CCP to actually nerf their income? Yeah that sounds good. Hi, I'll report this and get it deleted. I'm only interested in signatures here. Report this one to... Your idea is bad, PLEX cost what they cost; In game, set by a market of players for isk; Out of game, set by CCP for RL cash`. No amount of signatures will change that. Also threatening reports and deletions for those that disagree with you is pretty disgraceful. There is no such thing as a fair fight... If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage.
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 40152	Posted - 2015.09.16 23:46:22 - [14] - Quote Aaron, If the problem is the people can't afford the price of PLEX and you want CCP to reduce the PLEX price to be closer to monthly subscription price why not just suggest players subscribe instead of use PLEX? From recent figures supplied by CCP Quant, we know that almost 2/3 of the player base have just 1 account. So I assume you aren't talking about alt account here and believe many people pay their main account with PLEX. If its finances that are a problem, then I can understand why. It makes no sense to use PLEX paid for with cash, to stay active on a main account. People should subscribe and they'll instantly have the lower price you are petitioning for. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
Aaron Eternal Frontier 309	Posted - 2015.09.16 23:46:40 - [15] - Quote Raiz Nhell wrote: Aaron wrote: Yang Aurilen wrote: So you're petitioning CCP to actually nerf their income? Yeah that sounds good. Hi, I'll report this and get it deleted. I'm only interested in signatures here. Report this one to... Your idea is bad, PLEX cost what they cost; In game, set by a market of players for isk; Out of game, set by CCP for RL cash`. No amount of signatures will change that. Also threatening reports and deletions for those that disagree with you is pretty disgraceful. I can afford my sub. If **** poor people is the attitude of the likes of you and CCP then kiss good bye to more customers/players, this is the facts. Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
Webvan All Kill No Skill 13966	Posted - 2015.09.16 23:49:10 - [16] - Quote Aaron wrote: A more socialist attitude needs to be applied. Yes, PLEX prices should be changed to suit my needs. Entitlement. Socialist attitude only works until it runs out of everyone else's money. I'm in it for the money Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Dradis Aulmais RW Vindicator Connection Phoebe Freeport Republic 1020	Posted - 2015.09.16 23:52:14 - [17] - Quote The argument of a weak mind. If we disagree you must be racist/bigit/against poor people. Hmm I am classified as poor by the government. I seem to be able to manage my money well enough to pay all my cost of living and extras like Internet and Eve. And your argument doesn't hold water. Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896 Free The Scope Three
Loki Yamaguchi Level 42 Industries 2	Posted - 2015.09.16 23:54:54 - [18] - Quote Aaron wrote: I can afford my sub. If **** poor people is the attitude of the likes of you and CCP then kiss good bye to more customers/players, this is the facts. If poor people's ability to play EVE is determined by a $1-2 price change then their financial position is such that they shouldn't be playing EVE in the first place... Webvan's "entitlement" comment is bang-on...
45thtiger 0109 AL3XAND3R. 157	Posted - 2015.09.17 00:01:30 - [19] - Quote Aaron wrote: Dear CCP, I'd like for you to acknowledge that the RL cost of PLEX is having a negative effect on the player numbers. Lots of people are leaving and are finding it difficult to play the game because of limited time and RL finance. The goal of this petition is to request the revision of the RL cost of PLEX so that it is closer to the monthly sub cost. A lower RL PLEX cost may prompt the PLEX for isk sellers to lower their prices which will help PLEX users stay in the game. If the PLEX sellers have no customers we could see the plex sellers also leave the game. Please accept these signatures that will show the depth of support on this matter. Yours Faithfully, N.B. This is a serious thread which is intended to show the opinions of the players on this very important matter. _____________________________________________________________________________ Please sign this thread, I believe it is crucial to keeping Eve alive. Please try to keep this thread free of trolling because it is important, let us ensure that this thread stays open. Sorry Dude this is not going to happen and CCP will not do anything about it and no I will not sign a petition regarding this matter. IBTL You Have to take the good with the bad and the bad with the good. Welcome to EvE OnLiNe
Dradis Aulmais RW Vindicator Connection Phoebe Freeport Republic 1020	Posted - 2015.09.17 00:04:09 - [20] - Quote I just read the part where you wanted to keep the post clear of trolling and I laugh because this is GD and trolling Is what we do Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896 Free The Scope Three
Aaron Eternal Frontier 309	Posted - 2015.09.17 00:10:55 - [21] - Quote 45thtiger 0109 wrote: Aaron wrote: Dear CCP, I'd like for you to acknowledge that the RL cost of PLEX is having a negative effect on the player numbers. Lots of people are leaving and are finding it difficult to play the game because of limited time and RL finance. The goal of this petition is to request the revision of the RL cost of PLEX so that it is closer to the monthly sub cost. A lower RL PLEX cost may prompt the PLEX for isk sellers to lower their prices which will help PLEX users stay in the game. If the PLEX sellers have no customers we could see the plex sellers also leave the game. Please accept these signatures that will show the depth of support on this matter. Yours Faithfully, N.B. This is a serious thread which is intended to show the opinions of the players on this very important matter. _____________________________________________________________________________ Please sign this thread, I believe it is crucial to keeping Eve alive. Please try to keep this thread free of trolling because it is important, let us ensure that this thread stays open. Sorry Dude this is not going to happen and CCP will not do anything about it and no I will not sign a petition regarding this matter. IBTL Cool, if this is your attitude then you must accept failing numbers without crying about it. Open your eyes brother, can't you see the plex users crying on the forum? A petition thread is simply signed or not signed. Not signing means you disapprove and that you don't need to comment. Keep your short sighted opinions to yourself ! Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
Paranoid Loyd 6884	Posted - 2015.09.17 00:13:29 - [22] - Quote Aaron wrote: keep your short sighted opinions to yourself ! Heh, pot meet kettle. "Gankers are just other players, not supernatural monsters who will get you if you don't follow some arbitrary superstition. Haul responsibly and without irrational fear." Masao Kurata Fix the Prospect!
Scipio Artelius The Vendunari End of Life 40154	Posted - 2015.09.17 00:16:45 - [23] - Quote Aaron wrote: 45thtiger 0109 wrote: Aaron wrote: Dear CCP, I'd like for you to acknowledge that the RL cost of PLEX is having a negative effect on the player numbers. Lots of people are leaving and are finding it difficult to play the game because of limited time and RL finance. The goal of this petition is to request the revision of the RL cost of PLEX so that it is closer to the monthly sub cost. A lower RL PLEX cost may prompt the PLEX for isk sellers to lower their prices which will help PLEX users stay in the game. If the PLEX sellers have no customers we could see the plex sellers also leave the game. Please accept these signatures that will show the depth of support on this matter. Yours Faithfully, N.B. This is a serious thread which is intended to show the opinions of the players on this very important matter. _____________________________________________________________________________ Please sign this thread, I believe it is crucial to keeping Eve alive. Please try to keep this thread free of trolling because it is important, let us ensure that this thread stays open. Sorry Dude this is not going to happen and CCP will not do anything about it and no I will not sign a petition regarding this matter. IBTL Cool, if this is your attitude then you must accept failing numbers without crying about it. Open your eyes brother, can't you see the plex users crying on the forum? A petition thread is simply signed or not signed. Not signing means you disapprove and that you don't need to comment. Keep your short sighted opinions to yourself ! But if it is really the in game PLEX users that you are concerned for, then that has nothing to do with the RL cost of PLEX. To subscribe an account for a hobby is normal discretionary spending we take into account when working out our finances. To purchase PLEX on top of that to sell for ISK in game is not something CCP needs to subsidise. People who can afford that don't need to worry about a couple of dollars in savings. So what you really are concerned about is the in game price of PLEX and believe that the shortage of supply is because of RL economic reasons. That doesn't make much sense. If you want to reduce the in game price that's one thing. But suggesting that the out of game price should be lowered to make discretionary spending easier is just asking for straight charity from CCP for the players that can already afford it anyway. Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
Scotchmo Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 2	Posted - 2015.09.17 00:20:32 - [24] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: Aaron wrote: 45thtiger 0109 wrote: Sorry Dude this is not going to happen and CCP will not do anything about it and no I will not sign a petition regarding this matter. IBTL Cool, if this is your attitude then you must accept failing numbers without crying about it. Open your eyes brother, can't you see the plex users crying on the forum? A petition thread is simply signed or not signed. Not signing means you disapprove and that you don't need to comment. Keep your short sighted opinions to yourself ! But if it is really the in game PLEX users that you are concerned for, then that has nothing to do with the RL cost of PLEX. To subscribe an account for a hobby is normal discretionary spending we take into account when working out our finances. To purchase PLEX on top of that to sell for ISK in game is not something CCP needs to subsidise. People who can afford that don't need to worry about a couple of dollars in savings. So what you really are concerned about is the in game price of PLEX and believe that the shortage of supply is because of RL economic reasons. That doesn't make much sense. If you want to reduce the in game price that's one thing. But suggesting that the out of game price should be lowered to make discretionary spending easier is just asking for straight charity from CCP for the players that can already afford it anyway. IS there enough that can afford it already that CCP is ok with them being the only group that buys plex? I would think they want to constantly grow instead of milk a selection of their population till the end.
Aaron Eternal Frontier 309	Posted - 2015.09.17 00:26:12 - [25] - Quote Paranoid Loyd wrote: Aaron wrote: keep your short sighted opinions to yourself ! Heh, pot meet kettle. My opinions promote customer satisfaction and loyalty, if all the parties involved in PLEX reach a consensus we will see numbers stabilize and good prospects for the Eve economy. Some of the plex users are miners who pay for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th accounts, if all of them were to suddenly stop using most of their accounts then the supply of minerals will be effected resulting in higher mineral prices. Industry will be affected and the price of everything will rise. This game seems to be catering for the capitalists among us, if it continues this way then CCP will lose more of their income as more people leave. Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
Ultim8Evil Full Spectrum Inc Fidelas Constans 252	Posted - 2015.09.17 00:30:06 - [26] - Quote Even if you pay monthly, which is the most expensive way of doing it, Eve costs the same as a music CD, the price of two fancy coffees in Starbucks, a meal for two at McDonald's. F*** all. I guarantee the same people QQing on here about the cost of space pixels have/do at least one of the following: gym membership -ú400+ iPhone/Android Phone -ú100+ Beats headphones -ú800+ computer drink alcohol smoke cigarettes/weed have the opportunity to work overtime but turn it down eat out more than once a month own a "modified" car All these things cost money, but you choose to spend it there, rather than on Eve. If you really enjoy Eve so much that you feel the need to sperg here about paying for it, get your credit card out, pay for your subscription, join the "PLEX PRICE IS IRRELEVANT TO ME" master race, and laugh at stupid posts like this. Pr0tip, if you're half decent at managing your income, you can have/do all the things on that list and still play Eve Follow me on Twitter for literally no good reason @TheUltim8Evil
Webvan All Kill No Skill 13967	Posted - 2015.09.17 00:32:07 - [27] - Quote Aaron wrote: Some of the plex users are miners who pay for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th accounts, if all of them were to suddenly stop using most of their accounts then the supply of minerals will be effected resulting in higher mineral prices. So... they would be making more ISK for their labor? OH THE HORROR!!! promises promises It's almost as if the OP is inadvertently attempting to turn this thread into a CODE. recruitment drive. Less miners = win profits etc. Might even make manufacturing viable again. I'm in it for the money Ctrl+Alt+Shift+F12
Vic Jefferson GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 605	Posted - 2015.09.17 00:32:20 - [28] - Quote Aaron wrote: Some of the plex users are miners who pay for 2nd, 3rd, and 4th accounts, if all of them were to suddenly stop using most of their accounts then the supply of minerals will be effected resulting in higher mineral prices. By this logic, if the price of minerals were to rise, then PLEX would once again be in the reach of industrious miners. I.E. its a cycle and merely being patient will result in a return to the status quo. Vote Vic Jefferson for CSM X
Aaron Eternal Frontier 309	Posted - 2015.09.17 00:35:18 - [29] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: Aaron wrote: 45thtiger 0109 wrote: Sorry Dude this is not going to happen and CCP will not do anything about it and no I will not sign a petition regarding this matter. IBTL Cool, if this is your attitude then you must accept failing numbers without crying about it. Open your eyes brother, can't you see the plex users crying on the forum? A petition thread is simply signed or not signed. Not signing means you disapprove and that you don't need to comment. Keep your short sighted opinions to yourself ! People who can afford that don't need to worry about a couple of dollars in savings. Again, what about the people who can't afford a couple dollars in savings? What's the answer? Is is **** you, you're poor? The in game price of a PLEX is affected by the RL cost of it. If plex were -ú9.99 then perhaps the in game cost of a plex could be 700m, all parties benefit in this example. Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 9221	Posted - 2015.09.17 00:36:44 - [30] - Quote Ultim8Evil wrote: Eve costs the same as a music CD, I seem to vaguely remember those. Try to come up with a more current example next time. Might as well compare it to an LP for all anyone is going to know what you are talking about. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!

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