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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.27 21:06:18 -
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But to all of us demonstrated Navy Abaddon. Give him the winner. And here is we will not give. (Warning !, a bad gesture)
Rejoices in the Gold Magnate. Jamyl R.I.P = EVE R.I.P
Thanks you -í-íP Falcon"that helped to quit EVE"
Jamyl the Great
CCP can never come up with such a character as Jamyl Sarum.
No love of the the project and imagination.
They can only cross out all.
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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.27 22:19:11 -
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Gregor Parud wrote:Tyberius Franklin wrote:Gregor Parud wrote:Chribba wrote:As I said in Falcon's Championship thread, they should not do this.
EVE history is very important imo, and introducing them again will make such history redundant, your loss will be neglected by new (and old) pilots as the ships are "now".
Reskin a Golden Punisher or similar instead. But leave the originals alone, it died, and that made a great addition to EVE history, CCP should keep it that way.
/c Very much agreed. CCP don't do this. Honestly I'm feeling the opposite here. The use of a historic and storied prize elevates this event from just another mini-alliance tournament with RP elements. Changing the prize for this reason cheapens the idea of this event and the way the empire should/would consistently reward participants. Realistically the way people felt regarding the 1st gold magnate won't be retroactively changed and in the eyes of most I'd bet history lends additional value to the return of it to the game, especially when done in this manner. Further, with that history alive the potential for it to be deepened actually exists. That's some fancy words you're trying to use there, let me give you a very basic reply: Why would you agree to a reskinned old ship as a new prize to a new tournament rather than an actual new ship? Because it saves CCP some time or is it because you're a not-have and more than anything else you, and everyone else in this thread, is so full of jealousy that you'd rather see something taken away from folks who DO have... or had, at any cost. I'm a not-have but at the same time I'm mature enough to realise that it being out of grasp is fine. You're all hilariously jealous, like 5 year olds.
It seems that we take at the time the CCP? Or maybe they just should not have to hurry? Yes, and do not touch the Empress. And just hold domestic championship in each state. Where would be able to participate, each RP player. For example at the Amarr, among the royal of families were the race. But is not present it was necessary to touched. Even Reward can not come up. They give junk. Jamyl R.I.P = EVE R.I.P
Thanks you -í-íP Falcon"that helped to quit EVE"
Jamyl the Great
CCP can never come up with such a character as Jamyl Sarum.
No love of the the project and imagination.
They can only cross out all.
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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
259
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Posted - 2015.09.27 22:29:25 -
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Utremi Fasolasi wrote:Gregor Parud wrote:
Why would you agree to a reskinned old ship as a new prize to a new tournament rather than an actual new ship?
But it's not a new tournament. It is the same kind of tournament as the last one, with the same reward.
That's right it's just the replay. And the new can not come up. That with the plot can not come up with that with the reward.
Thanks you -í-íP Falcon"that helped to quit EVE"
Jamyl the Great
CCP can never come up with such a character as Jamyl Sarum.
No love of the the project and imagination.
They can only cross out all.
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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
259
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Posted - 2015.09.28 20:30:21 -
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http://fav.me/d30n6cp It would be awesome gift. Moreover and for memory.
Thanks you -í-íP Falcon"that helped to quit EVE"
Jamyl the Great
CCP can never come up with such a character as Jamyl Sarum.
No love of the the project and imagination.
They can only cross out all.
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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
259
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Posted - 2015.09.28 20:36:10 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:
The history is not lost.
Read my post.
Yes, she is rewritten in the a rude manner.
Thanks you -í-íP Falcon"that helped to quit EVE"
Jamyl the Great
CCP can never come up with such a character as Jamyl Sarum.
No love of the the project and imagination.
They can only cross out all.
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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
260
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Posted - 2015.09.28 21:06:09 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Vollhov wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:
The history is not lost.
Read my post.
Yes, she is rewritten in the a rude manner. Nothing about the past is being changed, thus there is no rewrite of history. It's not the same for everybody.
Thanks you -í-íP Falcon"that helped to quit EVE"
Jamyl the Great
CCP can never come up with such a character as Jamyl Sarum.
No love of the the project and imagination.
They can only cross out all.
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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
260
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Posted - 2015.09.28 21:28:58 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Vollhov wrote:It's not the same for everybody. It does seem some people have some attachment to the concept of any aspect of eve's history becoming immutable along with any items that may have played a part in that history. That those items may return factually doesn't change eve's history though. I'd see the extent of the issue if this prize was for something unrelated to the way they were originally obtained, but it isn't. That said they could probably make everyone happy by creating a 2nd version for the in game year of this event, even if using the same hull. Maybe label the old ones for the original IG year. It's a superficial change, but then every issue with the re-issue is equally superficial.
Have you read the book EVE Empyrean age? Have you read the Chronicle? Read hotels books and Chronicles. Then Kiss stories alliances capsuleer on the periphery. Combine them. And Eve would be the game dreams. (which destroys)
Thanks you -í-íP Falcon"that helped to quit EVE"
Jamyl the Great
CCP can never come up with such a character as Jamyl Sarum.
No love of the the project and imagination.
They can only cross out all.
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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
260
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Posted - 2015.09.28 21:54:15 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Still not seeing why new batches of collectables can't be given unique identifiers to keep people on both sides satisfied. It can't be that technically tricky to make each release batch unique. There's nothing unreasonable about existing owners (or previous winners) of these items commenting when the re-release policy is so ridiculously inconsistent. Either use a decal with a DOB, an item name that includes the release year or a special skin etc. But once decided, please release a formal policy and stick to it. This debate has been ongoing for years and it's getting a bit old. It shouldn't be so hard to see that high value ingame items should be handled with care. If they aren't, the ingame lore and player driven narrative is debased as a result, as is the effort and time of players with an interest. It's also shortsighted to release items like the CA set and geckos which have really high stats and will be heavily used, then make vague (or contradictory) comments about subsequent releases. And it's outright insulting to the AT participants to mess them about over prizes. Researching collectables to try sort out the policy on each is a joke at the moment, because there aren't any. Just random remarks from devs (some of whom aren't even at CCP anymore). Also, all the people who support re-releases appear to be bitchy peasants whose only interest in commenting is to goad existing owners. Which is irrelevant noise tbh. Player disgruntlement seems to stem from CCP's poor handing of this. It's almost like they want a wave of drama over each proposed release so they can decide on a case-by-case basis how to handle them, but all it does is annoy everyone involved and make them look indecisive. Are we supposed to have a tantrum every time this is mentioned then spend hours knocking each other about on the forums just to get a fair and sensible decision? Wouldn't it be better for CCP to treat the playerbase with fairness and respect in the first place, rather than us having to spell it out? Players keep coming out to support CCP when the community turns incoherent with nerd-rage so constructive feedback over changes can get through, but it's a massive waste of effort when they undermine themselves with such poor decisions. And honestly, why the CSM isn't pointing this out is beyond me.
Here are 2013. Where everything went. Since 2013 CCP began to rewrite history. Just at dat year, and the question was raised about the state of the Empress.
Thanks you -í-íP Falcon"that helped to quit EVE"
Jamyl the Great
CCP can never come up with such a character as Jamyl Sarum.
No love of the the project and imagination.
They can only cross out all.
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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
260
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Posted - 2015.09.28 22:12:24 -
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Marsha Mallow wrote:Vollhov wrote:Here are 2013. Where everything went. Since 2013 CCP began to rewrite history. Just at dat year, and the question was raised about the state of the Empress. She was a hussy anyway. And a Drifter sockpuppet. RIP hoodies. On this topic. Give the winners a new ship, not old. Which is how the memory of the Hayderan VII
Thanks you -í-íP Falcon"that helped to quit EVE"
Jamyl the Great
CCP can never come up with such a character as Jamyl Sarum.
No love of the the project and imagination.
They can only cross out all.
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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.28 22:22:16 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Vollhov wrote:Just history of the world it is the Eve Chronicle, books and stories, capsuleers. Since according to chronicles and books and gave out Gold Tycoon Since this was already in the History of EVE.
It was the succession after the death of Heideran. Why is the "wheel of samsara" I personally do not understand. Oh I'm sorry you're in the game from 2014. So it sounds like you have no evidence to support the claim and further have issues with dates. Hint: Someone with an employment history of 5 years in 2015 would obviously have been in the game before 2014 even before considering the possibility of other older characters. No, I respect the old players. And sorry that have not played in 2003 in this wonderful game. And so many missed the
Thanks you -í-íP Falcon"that helped to quit EVE"
Jamyl the Great
CCP can never come up with such a character as Jamyl Sarum.
No love of the the project and imagination.
They can only cross out all.
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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
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Posted - 2015.09.29 21:28:30 -
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Tappits wrote:Khan Wrenth wrote:Re-releasing old ones has pissed off a large number of people. There is like 50 people who really care about this stuff. The vast majority of The EvE player base will have no clue about this or not care that there is a championship/Silver-Gold Magnate's in the 1st place. Like really. here here will And because of 50 players, what for was to to touch LOR. No that would come up with something new. What would all were satisfied.
EVE R.I.P
Thanks you -í-íP Falcon"that helped to quit EVE"
Jamyl the Great
CCP can never come up with such a character as Jamyl Sarum.
No love of the the project and imagination.
They can only cross out all.
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Vollhov
Senators of Eridan Red Alliance
262
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Posted - 2015.09.29 21:54:58 -
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Tiddle Jr wrote:Big Lynx wrote:Is CCP's forge of creativity and ideas on vacation? So they don't have time for releasing NEW unique legendary ships, which would make EvE Online a more interesting and varied place? CCP, you can do much much better.
Re-releasing old legendary ships destroys the history and the spirit of EvE Online. My 2 cents. The problem is that for many new and fresh players these two names (S/G Magnates) doesn't mean anything at all. So they simply won't bother by fact of re-releasing those agan. Hmm maybe in terms of sell/buy if the price tag is comfortable. On other hand the guard of vets including current owners got mad. Cause yeah, all these years it was not affordable and in case you want to buy one you should be ready to spend billions. Seems pretty anfair. Meanwhile we had this Jamyl's storyline dropped on us. Should i care of her death? Maybe. And only in connection of new batch of Magnets would be released after Amarr tournament. That's silly in my pov. In tearms of creativity, CCP could do much better other that Magnates.
I, too, believe in the CCP. What they can do is much everything better. But why they do not want. They can . And the possibilities they have.
It is a pity that one can not turn back the clock.
Thanks you -í-íP Falcon"that helped to quit EVE"
Jamyl the Great
CCP can never come up with such a character as Jamyl Sarum.
No love of the the project and imagination.
They can only cross out all.
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