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Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.22 07:48:00 - [31] Originally by: DHB WildCat I called him a sad little man because of his personal attack on Shin Ra nothing more or less I suppose I am what I eat. Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.22 08:04:00 - [32] Originally by: Dina Jorell I'd like to make it clear that I do not approve of logoffski/logonski tactics, or any other kind of exploit (because, let's face it, that's what it is), but we cannot deny that as long as AAA are willing/are capable of using them, they will hold a tactical advantage that is very hard to combat via ordinary means. GMs have already been contacted to verify if this is an exploit. Logon traps are not exploits in themselves, but using them to such a degree that they crash or lock up your enemy's computers or lag/crash the node is. If someone does this, they'll be warned by GMs to stop it and if they pull a logon trap like that again, they'll be headed for bans for disobeying a GM. Put simply, if someone pulls a logon trap to make their enemy lag significantly, lock up or disconnect, it's an exploit. If they pull it just to surprise their enemy by dropping in on top of them, it's fine as long as it doesn't cause significant detriment to their enemy. The kicker is that it needs to be established beyond (reasonable) doubt that there was significant detriment to one side caused by this tactic. I know most people don't bother asking the GMs what they can do as players to assist the GM investigations, but I have. If someone pulls this on us, I've been given a list of information we will be required to give to the GMs so that they can adequately investigate it. I'll make sure our fleet commanders are informed to prepare to collect this information in the event that AAA pull a trap on us during an operation. Logging in a fleet at a gate to catch someone is fine but if the node lags because of the size of the fleet, it's not okay. How do you make sure you don't cross that line? Run small logoff traps or don't run them at all. 200 pilots logging on at once is 200 warnings from a GM, for sure. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
Ranura Eynara Amarr	Posted - 2006.12.22 08:07:00 - [33] If IAC survive this, which imo they will... it will be the final nail in the coffin for MCs credibility They failed to take IAC before, they came back for more, failed, they came back with FIX, KIA... failed They came back with FIX, ISS, LV, KIA... and now theyre going to get spanked Wheres the RAGOON when you need them? :) They should come up from the rear and eat some LV stragglers
Omeega Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.22 08:11:00 - [34] Edited by: Omeega on 22/12/2006 08:12:07 Originally by: Nyphur I'll make sure our fleet commanders are informed to prepare to collect this information in the event that AAA pull a trap on us during an operation.. It's the last time I'll explain this. This kind of login trap only occured once, against a SUPREMACY freighter. It was made by RAT. not even AAA. It was the first (efficient) one and has been the last one. The rest is all a timed CTA until we all chose not to stupidly loose ships and make you stress for not knowing when we'll come in. Think for a second : loggin 100 people at once and ganging them all to warp to a covertops will not take you 5minutes. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
Ranura Eynara Amarr	Posted - 2006.12.22 08:13:00 - [35] Originally by: Omeega Edited by: Omeega on 22/12/2006 08:12:07 Originally by: Nyphur I'll make sure our fleet commanders are informed to prepare to collect this information in the event that AAA pull a trap on us during an operation.. It's the last time I'll explain this. This kind of login trap only occured once, against a SUPREMACY freighter. It was made by RAT. not even AAA. It was the first (efficient) one and has been the last one. The rest is all a timed CTA until we all chose not to stupidly loose ships and make you stress for not knowing when we'll come in. Think for a second : loggin 100 people at once and ganging them all to warp to a covertops will not take you 5minutes. Dont even attempt to deny it, its the forums, rumours have started, BE are nubs with Ravens + stabs and AAA are logintrap sploiters
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.22 08:15:00 - [36] Originally by: Adril Alatar Originally by: matty01 Originally by: Oreh Anavrin AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy. things change dog, you know that more than alot of people in EVE There are things that do not change. And thats a -10 from NoQ to aAa.... I respect that, and hope you guys understand our position ;P http://eve.klaki.net/
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.22 08:21:00 - [37] Originally by: Omeega Originally by: Nyphur I'll make sure our fleet commanders are informed to prepare to collect this information in the event that AAA pull a trap on us during an operation.. It's the last time I'll explain this. This kind of login trap only occured once, against a SUPREMACY freighter. It was made by RAT. not even AAA. My apologies, I didn't mean to inferr that AAA would pull a massive logoff trap. I merely meant to assert that with all the talk of rumours that large entities (including but not limited to AAA) pull large logoff traps, we are prepared just in case anyone tries it. Also I'm just giving a bit of advice for anyone that would pull these traps to log their pilots in not at the same time but in smaller squads to avoid lagging the system out. I know logging in over 100 pilots 10-20 at a time over 30 minutes isn't exactly as effective a surprise shock-assault tactic as logging them all in at once but this way avoids unpleasentness with GMs. Sitting logged off to stress the enemy is a perfectly valid tactic. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.
M1NeR Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.22 08:23:00 - [38] Originally by: Ranura Eynara Dont even attempt to deny it, its the forums, rumours have started, BE are nubs with Ravens + stabs and AAA are logintrap sploiters But ya know, there are also rumors that forums are full of lil babycriers that are good only in one thing. Whining. -------
Admentus Cor'vion Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.22 08:31:00 - [39] Originally by: Ranura Eynara If IAC survive this, which imo they will... it will be the final nail in the coffin for MCs credibility They failed to take IAC before, they came back for more, failed, they came back with FIX, KIA... failed They came back with FIX, ISS, LV, KIA... and now theyre going to get spanked Wheres the RAGOON when you need them? :) They should come up from the rear and eat some LV stragglers Your conversation is great and all, but man post with your main. Grudges or whatever you eventually gotta put isk into the mouth and post it on the forums. _______________________________________________ Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve. "The end and the beginning."
Admentus Cor'vion Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.22 08:32:00 - [40] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Originally by: Adril Alatar Originally by: matty01 Originally by: Oreh Anavrin AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy. things change dog, you know that more than alot of people in EVE There are things that do not change. And thats a -10 from NoQ to aAa.... I respect that, and hope you guys understand our position ;P Bud, it's a position that you could have easily avoided. _______________________________________________ Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve. "The end and the beginning."
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.22 08:48:00 - [41] Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Originally by: Adril Alatar Originally by: matty01 Originally by: Oreh Anavrin AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy. things change dog, you know that more than alot of people in EVE There are things that do not change. And thats a -10 from NoQ to aAa.... I respect that, and hope you guys understand our position ;P Bud, it's a position that you could have easily avoided. No not really, letting ISS continue to **** all over us wasn't an option, I know being on a leash works out great for FIX, but IAC is different. http://eve.klaki.net/
DiuxDium Casting Shadows	Posted - 2006.12.22 08:53:00 - [42] Edited by: DiuxDium on 22/12/2006 08:55:07 Originally by: Ranura Eynara If IAC survive this, which imo they will... it will be the final nail in the coffin for MCs credibility They failed to take IAC before, they came back for more, failed, they came back with FIX, KIA... failed They came back with FIX, ISS, LV, KIA... and now theyre going to get spanked Wheres the RAGOON when you need them? :) They should come up from the rear and eat some LV stragglers Yeah, I to would lose all faith in MC's proven stats if they lost a single operation. Some day, I'll lern to speak gud.
Ranura Eynara Amarr	Posted - 2006.12.22 09:10:00 - [43] Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion Your conversation is great and all, but man post with your main. This is my main, just because i left a corp. recently to join NPC. Learn to post plz
Ranura Eynara Amarr	Posted - 2006.12.22 09:12:00 - [44] Originally by: DiuxDium Yeah, I to would lose all faith in MC's proven stats if they lost a single operation. attempt at sarcasm/wit? 'fail' You have something to say, say it. Originally by: DiuxDium Some day, I'll lern to speak gud. wtf is that supposed to imply? I'm waiting for MC's lastest contractors to mysteriously "stop paying them"
Excesse The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.22 09:37:00 - [45] Look at all you IAC haters getting all defensive now that things are more interesting. Cute as hell! :D
Krystian Caldari No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.12.22 09:40:00 - [46] Edited by: Krystian on 22/12/2006 09:41:04 Dubious politics in EvE. What puzzles me is you helped us when it was AAA who destroyed 2 IAC capital ships earlier this year back when we where in Huzzah. Whatever I guess, politics so whacked now. You have Noq's official response Elchief. Be sure your new allies know it when we show. Please forgive us if it isnt overwhelming in response.
dResche Minmatar PPN United Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.22 09:55:00 - [47] Hello mom! wink
Gutsani The Priory Shroud Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.22 10:17:00 - [48] One question, will RAGOON get involved now also? (on a bigger scale) Since, rat and RA are "good friends". We heard alot of rumours about RA, but never saw a capital of them. Good luck -A-, do we have you at blue? ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy!
Ritchler Gallente Proof Or Stfu	Posted - 2006.12.22 10:23:00 - [49] Edited by: Ritchler on 22/12/2006 10:23:16 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Originally by: Adril Alatar Originally by: matty01 Originally by: Oreh Anavrin AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy. things change dog, you know that more than alot of people in EVE There are things that do not change. And thats a -10 from NoQ to aAa.... I respect that, and hope you guys understand our position ;P Bud, it's a position that you could have easily avoided. No not really, letting ISS continue to **** all over us wasn't an option, I know being on a leash works out great for FIX, but IAC is different. FIX DO NOT, work on a leash for anyone, BOB does not dictate fix policy, tis has already been published by BOB, nor do they pay rent or give bob anything. Ill be blunt. IAC had two options, control your members or be oblitirated. You choose a fight and now your loosing and you choose to ally yourself with the biggest bunch of explpoiters and disgusting players in eve, AAA, says alot for you really
KIAEddZ Caldari KIA Corp	Posted - 2006.12.22 10:28:00 - [50] WOAHHHHHHHH HORSEY!!!!!! Okies okies okies. I see peopel in this thread questioning MC's "rep" That is simply ridiculous. MC are MERCENARIES. PLease re-read that. MERCENARIES Which means they do what they get paid to do. They were paid (hope I'm not breaking any NDA here) to take F4R and punch IAC in the face... hard F4R will fall to ISS today, and I am sure if you ask IAC, their faces are sore. MC have done as always all the employer has asked of them. Nothing more nothing less, thats the ethic of a Merc. What will happen in the future is not MCs dcision, they have no personal feelings here. As usual they have gone in, done the business, and spent the Employers ISK well. AAA joining IAC.... bold move from IAC, but a move of desperation. Its ISS move now, no one elses. KIA EVE Home
Kazim The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.22 10:43:00 - [51] Originally by: Ritchler Edited by: Ritchler on 22/12/2006 10:23:16 Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Originally by: Adril Alatar Originally by: matty01 Originally by: Oreh Anavrin AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy. things change dog, you know that more than alot of people in EVE There are things that do not change. And thats a -10 from NoQ to aAa.... I respect that, and hope you guys understand our position ;P Bud, it's a position that you could have easily avoided. No not really, letting ISS continue to ** all over us wasn't an option, I know being on a leash works out great for FIX, but IAC is different. FIX DO NOT, work on a leash for anyone, BOB does not dictate fix policy, tis has already been published by BOB, nor do they pay rent or give bob anything. Ill be blunt. IAC had two options, control your members or be oblitirated. You choose a fight and now your loosing and you choose to ally yourself with the biggest bunch of explpoiters and disgusting players in eve, AAA, says alot for you really Look, calling AAA "the biggest bunch of exploiters and disgusting players in eve" is very harsh. We have this rep because people like to blame external or out of game tactics when they lose, i.e. AXE losing crapload of capitals. Also what Omeega said, logging in 100 pilots, ganging them and then warp them to a cov op does not consitute a log on trap. This all takes some time. And you would see that if you would stop acting like a child and stop screaming "no fair" everytime you lose. So before, my lovely FIX alt, you start shouting crap here get some proof or STFU. And saying you saw a bunch of whiners post here is not proof. Anyone with a IQ over 90 knows that most of the posts here are bull **.
AKULA UrQuan Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.22 10:45:00 - [52] ? I'm going to take a vacation in Syndicate. It's very calm and tranquil compaired to the south these days. Or to be more blunt. everybody has lost their fargin minds down here! Originally by: Crumplecorn Wow, CCP make a change that eliminates whines and there are whines about the lack of whines.
Sherpondeldey	Posted - 2006.12.22 10:54:00 - [53] wow. Was it a voice from the grave? I thought ASCN does not exist anymore
n sx The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.22 10:55:00 - [54] Originally by: KIAEddZ WOAHHHHHHHH HORSEY!!!!!! They were paid (hope I'm not breaking any NDA here) to take F4R and punch IAC in the face... hard F4R will fall to ISS today, and I am sure if you ask IAC, their faces are sore. Hi Eddz, Thanks for clarifying the primary objective of ISS' intentions was purely defensive. Good times people.
Lowa Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions	Posted - 2006.12.22 10:55:00 - [55] Originally by: Ranura Eynara If IAC survive this, which imo they will... it will be the final nail in the coffin for MCs credibility They failed to take IAC before, they came back for more, failed, they came back with FIX, KIA... failed They came back with FIX, ISS, LV, KIA... and now theyre going to get spanked Normally I dont care but for the love of god get on the same server that the rest of us play on. Cheers, Lowa What if the truth was something else?
OozoO Caldari Decadence. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.22 10:57:00 - [56] I ... like ... this :)
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.22 11:03:00 - [57] Eddz; I don't see how making friends with .-A-. is desperate, was kinda inevitable in the long run due to the nature of our relationship with GS, RA, TCF etc.. Them being hostile to our friends in NoQ and AXE kept them on our need to have red list until it stopped being viable http://eve.klaki.net/
Yalson Caldari Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.12.22 11:10:00 - [58] Originally by: Kazim So before, my lovely FIX alt, you start shouting crap here get some proof or STFU. I am fairly confident that the nonsense posted by this alt does not originate from FIX. We might have our differences with AAA, but may I point you at the thread describing our lil' clash in ED-; you'll find nothing but congratulations for a great fight and not a single complaint regarding your approach to playing.
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.12.22 11:19:00 - [59] Edited by: Emrod on 22/12/2006 11:24:17 Originally by: n sx Originally by: KIAEddZ WOAHHHHHHHH HORSEY!!!!!! They were paid (hope I'm not breaking any NDA here) to take F4R and punch IAC in the face... hard F4R will fall to ISS today, and I am sure if you ask IAC, their faces are sore. Hi Eddz, Thanks for clarifying the primary objective of ISS' intentions was purely defensive. Good times people. All the big politic entity or empire in human history justify their war crimes by the fact they defend themself againts terror or to prevent war by the others rogue nations .But we all know its just an escuse to extend their power or economic dominance over the other nations. Purely defensive you say... Ya rigth
Nyphur Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.22 11:29:00 - [60] Originally by: n sx Originally by: KIAEddZ WOAHHHHHHHH HORSEY!!!!!! They were paid (hope I'm not breaking any NDA here) to take F4R and punch IAC in the face... hard F4R will fall to ISS today, and I am sure if you ask IAC, their faces are sore. Hi Eddz, Thanks for clarifying the primary objective of ISS' intentions was purely defensive. Good times people. Eddz does not represent ISS in any way, shape or form. And as far as I am aware, there has been no contact between he and ISS Management regarding the war on IAC whatsoever, no information has been given to him and no attempts at co-ordinating his corp with any involved party has been made. As far as I know, KIAEddz was hired by a third party and his corp are on their own and represent only themselves. Eve-Tanking.com - For tanking spreadsheet and resources.

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