Originally by: Nyphur

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Originally by: n sx

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Originally by: KIAEddZ

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WOAHHHHHHHH HORSEY!!!!!!

They were paid (hope I'm not breaking any NDA here) to take F4R and punch IAC in the face... hard

F4R will fall to ISS today, and I am sure if you ask IAC, their faces are sore.

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Hi Eddz,

Thanks for clarifying the primary objective of ISS' intentions was purely defensive.

Good times people.

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Eddz does not represent ISS in any way, shape or form. And as far as I am aware, there has been no contact between he and ISS Management regarding the war on IAC whatsoever, no information has been given to him and no attempts at co-ordinating his corp with any involved party has been made.

As far as I know, KIAEddz was hired by a third party and his corp are on their own and represent only themselves.

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Originally by: Ritchler

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with the biggest bunch of explpoiters and disgusting players in eve, AAA

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Originally by: Sherpondeldey

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wow. Was it a voice from the grave? I thought ASCN does not exist anymore

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Originally by: Pyxee

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Good luck AAA..... hope you kill lots and lots of 'em.

And I demand a fraps vid.

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Originally by: Kazim

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Look, calling AAA "the biggest bunch of exploiters and disgusting players in eve" is very harsh. We have this rep because people like to blame external or out of game tactics when they lose, i.e. AXE losing crapload of capitals.

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Originally by: Malius

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Edited by: Malius on 22/12/2006 13:07:32

Originally by: Kazim

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Look, calling AAA "the biggest bunch of exploiters and disgusting players in eve" is very harsh. We have this rep because people like to blame external or out of game tactics when they lose, i.e. AXE losing crapload of capitals.

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Nope, people are saying that because axe got all the capitals back from the logonski in question. So.. hmm .. you had to have done something wrong eh?

But seriously.. good luck IAC & AAA, bash'em gud.

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Originally by: Malius

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Nope, people are saying that because axe got all the capitals back from the logonski in question. So.. hmm .. you had to have done something wrong eh?

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Originally by: Evil Thug

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Originally by: Malius

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Nope, people are saying that because axe got all the capitals back from the logonski in question. So.. hmm .. you had to have done something wrong eh?

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You still haven`t provided eve community with any kind of proof about cap ship reimbursement. I haven`t found proof on your internal forums either. I dont think that AXE leadership missed opportunity like this to boost your morale. More of that, in one post of Steel Rat, he said, that it took 1 month of heavy work to replace these ships.

Of course its up to you, whom to beleive. With destruction of your capital ships we accomplished many goals, and removing you from impass became much more easy for us.

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Originally by: n sx

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Originally by: KIAEddZ

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WOAHHHHHHHH HORSEY!!!!!!

They were paid (hope I'm not breaking any NDA here) to take F4R and punch IAC in the face... hard

F4R will fall to ISS today, and I am sure if you ask IAC, their faces are sore.

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Hi Eddz,

Thanks for clarifying the primary objective of ISS' intentions was purely defensive.

Good times people.

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Originally by: Krystian

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Edited by: Krystian on 22/12/2006 09:41:04
Dubious politics in EvE. What puzzles me is you helped us when it was AAA who destroyed 2 IAC capital ships earlier this year back when we where in Huzzah. Whatever I guess, politics so whacked now. You have Noq's official response Elchief. Be sure your new allies know it when we show. Please forgive us if it isnt overwhelming in response.

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Originally by: Excesse

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Look at all you IAC haters getting all defensive now that things are more interesting.
Cute as hell! :D

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Originally by: Bach

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Originally by: Excesse

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Look at all you IAC haters getting all defensive now that things are more interesting.
Cute as hell! :D

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Long post with lots of different points to discuss. I'm just going to put all mine here in this one post.

There are no IAC haters in this conflict. Some are here for the pay, some feel they are defending they're empire/bussiness interests and some are here just for the fights. To my knowledge no one is here for hate of IAC. I may not understand some of the things IAC command does from time to time but I don't hate them. We've had good contests in the past. Each side has its smackers but on the whole I don't think hate describes it at all. Tyraxx is one of the few pilots I would trust and follow into fights he lead. No hate, I just happen to be playing on the opposing team for this contest.

Lag traps - might have worked months ago and vs. smaller numbers but not likely to have the same results anymore. In fact, with the weight of numbers fielded these days in cap ship fights its more likely to help the aggressors DN's than to have any hope of getting them killed at a POS fight.

AAA entering the the IAC fight - If they have come to attack ISS interests along side IAC, I say bring it on. They may bring a lot of ships to the fight but then again like everyone in the south they have enemies too. This just means they're enemies will join in as well or take advantage of the situation in one means or another. What may seem an advantage today often becomes a disadvantage tommarrow.

Logistics - this is what its all about in cap ship contests. If you buy your ships one at a time and have them personally owned your going to be a force till that one day you lose. Build an organization that replaces loses in turn and your always going to be a serious force. I have confidence in the logistics base of the side we're on.

In the end, those that have the courage and the logistics backing to let the citadel torps fly whenever they need too, need not fear anyone in Eve.

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Originally by: Ritchler

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Edited by: Ritchler on 22/12/2006 10:23:16

Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk

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Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion

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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk

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Originally by: Adril Alatar

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Originally by: matty01

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Originally by: Oreh Anavrin

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AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy.

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things change dog, you know that more than alot of people in EVE

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There are things that do not change.
And thats a -10 from NoQ to aAa....

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I respect that, and hope you guys understand our position ;P

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Bud, it's a position that you could have easily avoided.

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No not really, letting ISS continue to **** all over us wasn't an option, I know being on a leash works out great for FIX, but IAC is different.

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FIX DO NOT, work on a leash for anyone, BOB does not dictate fix policy, tis has already been published by BOB, nor do they pay rent or give bob anything. Ill be blunt. IAC had two options, control your members or be oblitirated. You choose a fight and now your loosing and you choose to ally yourself with the biggest bunch of explpoiters and disgusting players in eve, AAA, says alot for you really

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Originally by: Victor Ramirez

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using it to get the layout of a new system and a quick belt-check is about as practical as using Google Earth to see if your car is still in front of your house.

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Originally by: DHB WildCat

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As some have pointed out yes I am informed of many things around the eve universe from friends and alts . I just didnt want to make an initial post detailing events of which I was not present at, which is why I allowed IAC members to have there say before I had mine.

So from what I hear (not an official report) IAC has new found friends in -A-. Its no secret -A- hates ISS and butterdog 8). Anywho it seems MC and LV do not like the idea of offensively using cap ships with -A- involved in the conflict, as the guy above me pointed out. This is thus making ISS a little tee*d off. LV's Titan is probably back in Omist by now hiding in a POS. As for the MC, Im certain they are not out of the fight but this changes everything. Tables might be turning, but like I said this is not an official report

WildCat

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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr

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Originally by: Ritchler

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Edited by: Ritchler on 22/12/2006 10:23:16

Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk

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Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion

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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk

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Originally by: Adril Alatar

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Originally by: matty01

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Originally by: Oreh Anavrin

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AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy.

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things change dog, you know that more than alot of people in EVE

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WOOOWWWW....HE SAID IT another great post...


There are things that do not change.
And thats a -10 from NoQ to aAa....

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I respect that, and hope you guys understand our position ;P

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Bud, it's a position that you could have easily avoided.

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No not really, letting ISS continue to **** all over us wasn't an option, I know being on a leash works out great for FIX, but IAC is different.

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FIX DO NOT, work on a leash for anyone, BOB does not dictate fix policy, tis has already been published by BOB, nor do they pay rent or give bob anything. Ill be blunt. IAC had two options, control your members or be oblitirated. You choose a fight and now your loosing and you choose to ally yourself with the biggest bunch of explpoiters and disgusting players in eve, AAA, says alot for you really

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Lol, thats funny. I could of sworn BoB control FiX space and defend it when FiX arn't up to the job. Not the mention FiX's current trend of riding on MC's coat tails because they can't organise their own gank.

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Originally by: Evil Thug

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Originally by: Malius

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Nope, people are saying that because axe got all the capitals back from the logonski in question. So.. hmm .. you had to have done something wrong eh?

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You still haven`t provided eve community with any kind of proof about cap ship reimbursement. I haven`t found proof on your internal forums either. I dont think that AXE leadership missed opportunity like this to boost your morale. More of that, in one post of Steel Rat, he said, that it took 1 month of heavy work to replace these ships.

Of course its up to you, whom to beleive. With destruction of your capital ships we accomplished many goals, and removing you from impass became much more easy for us.

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Originally by: KIAEddZ

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WOAHHHHHHHH HORSEY!!!!!!

Okies okies okies.

I see peopel in this thread questioning MC's "rep"

That is simply ridiculous.

MC are MERCENARIES. PLease re-read that. MERCENARIES

Which means they do what they get paid to do.

They were paid (hope I'm not breaking any NDA here) to take F4R and punch IAC in the face... hard

F4R will fall to ISS today, and I am sure if you ask IAC, their faces are sore.

MC have done as always all the employer has asked of them. Nothing more nothing less, thats the ethic of a Merc.

What will happen in the future is not MCs dcision, they have no personal feelings here.

As usual they have gone in, done the business, and spent the Employers ISK well.

AAA joining IAC.... bold move from IAC, but a move of desperation. Its ISS move now, no one elses.

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Originally by: Kaylana Syi

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F4 being taken remains to be seen. It might fall. It might not. Let the fighting ships decide that.

MC has been NOTHING but professional. A number of concerns of the game's warfare mechanics have come into question if nothing more to hear the DEV ideas about them. The fact that they had the b@llz to field motherships on stations AND gates in multiple systems says a lot about where money is spent and the reputation they have. Nothing... but... respect. As always <3

LV showed up in a morale busting, grand appearence that when you look at it... was magestic. Nothing the likes atleast I have seen and I was hit by judgement. Obviously I was a good girl all year since I lived. Santa <3

AAA joining may seem like desperation but it was bound to happen. We are allied with a lot of their freinds. We fought them side by side AXE, not as much as we'd like to have, and we fight their raiders from time to time. Despite what people say people like creamster and his raiding crew provide good fights. When they kill stuff... I can sell another ship or modules. YARR. We have respect for AAA and the Ragoons and like how they treat their freinds... its not a business or a dictator ship. It is family. That is why my corp joined IAC and why I like Ragoons.

Lets not let the thread derail into a Fix/AAA flaim fest or 'MC lost again rabble.'

We love the attention, we love the pew pew and we like clusterfarks. We started wanting pew pew and got something much, much more escalated. As ISS saying through their allies that they were only here to take F4 I have to ask why they put nearly every POS in Jby and 1 in G-7 into reinforced mode. What they got was something they and their allies and mercs didn't want. We didn't want POS war. They don't want to fight an IAC with AAA in their corner. What happens next is what popcorn was invented for.

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Originally by: nickky01

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Originally by: Krystian

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Edited by: Krystian on 22/12/2006 09:41:04
Dubious politics in EvE. What puzzles me is you helped us when it was AAA who destroyed 2 IAC capital ships earlier this year back when we where in Huzzah. Whatever I guess, politics so whacked now. You have Noq's official response Elchief. Be sure your new allies know it when we show. Please forgive us if it isnt overwhelming in response.

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while i understand where your coming from...i used to hate AAA, back in the day when they were taking our stations i REALLY didn't like them...then i actually got to know a few of the guys in collective and RAT...and it turns out they are pretty cool guys. say what you want about them...i used to call them the same names...but they are normal guys, they are very good pvp'ers...and sadist even asked me out on a date

times change man, remember we used to hate FIX to but eventually they turned blue to...

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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk

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Originally by: Adril Alatar

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Originally by: matty01

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Originally by: Oreh Anavrin

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AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy.

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things change dog, you know that more than alot of people in EVE

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There are things that do not change.
And thats a -10 from NoQ to aAa....

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I respect that, and hope you guys understand our position ;P

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Originally by: Gragnor

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Much as I want to, I cannot hate any Alliance that has Svetlanna in it!!!

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