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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.12.22 03:05:00 -
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Heared some good rumors about IAC's newest friend. Any official announcement? And the million isk question..... will LV bring there Titan out anymore
WildCat
Sig nerfz0rd. Remember kids, it's 400x120 and less than 24,000 bytes (not kbytes) -Conuion Meow |
DHB FooFighter
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 03:08:00 -
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/me remembers to put the headphones on next time.
damn eavesdropper!
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mishkof
Caldari Emerald Empire The Sundering
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Posted - 2006.12.22 03:20:00 -
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Does this mean IAC will stop whining about blobs then? Just wondering. Because I hope it does. Revelations ruined my sig. If you are good at making sigs please send me an evemail.
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Crucifier
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.22 03:27:00 -
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rumours, what rumours? ------ Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
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Theonlystd
Caldari Fly-By-Night Enterprises Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2006.12.22 03:31:00 -
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making a thread about a Rumor and not even posting about what that Rumor is in detial..
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USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.12.22 03:36:00 -
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USN CVN7273
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Ediz Daxx
FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.22 03:36:00 -
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Thread lacks content.
*click*
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Plutoinum
German Cyberdome Corp Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.12.22 03:43:00 -
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Wonder who it is and how it can be vs. south. I mean there is no united south.
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Tribunal
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 04:24:00 -
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We have a friend?!!
Right on!
"We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers |
Arrgs
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2006.12.22 04:52:00 -
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Edited by: Arrgs on 22/12/2006 04:53:31 This is as good a thread as any to test my new sig. My first video!
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Linavin
Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 04:55:00 -
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This thread does indeed need more content, wheres butter dog? ---
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Nebba Kenezzer
Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.22 05:02:00 -
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Edited by: Nebba Kenezzer on 22/12/2006 05:04:44
The only triple A's I'm worried about are plugged into Shin Ra's d****.
Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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GO MaZ
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.22 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Arrgs Edited by: Arrgs on 22/12/2006 04:53:31 This is as good a thread as any to test my new sig.
Why dont my taranises come with those legs
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WRWR
Amarr Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.22 05:26:00 -
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Originally by: Arrgs Edited by: Arrgs on 22/12/2006 04:53:31 This is as good a thread as any to test my new sig.
ya rly
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Oreh Anavrin
No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.22 05:38:00 -
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AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy.
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.12.22 05:58:00 -
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Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Edited by: Nebba Kenezzer on 22/12/2006 05:04:44
The only triple A's I'm worried about are plugged into Shin Ra's d****.
You are a sad little man
Sig nerfz0rd. Remember kids, it's 400x120 and less than 24,000 bytes (not kbytes) -Conuion Meow |
Dina Jorell
Alpha Paradigm
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Posted - 2006.12.22 06:16:00 -
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Edited by: Dina Jorell on 22/12/2006 06:17:46 AAA has an Erebus, there now you have content to discuss and flame about... wooo..., the only exciting thing about this is that we finally get a non-Avatar Titan -_-
Aaaaand, I've lost interest.
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FowlPlayChiken
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.22 06:25:00 -
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yay! fights! finally a xmas gift worthy of my chiken happiness
Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
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Arrgs
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2006.12.22 06:26:00 -
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Originally by: GO MaZ
Originally by: Arrgs Edited by: Arrgs on 22/12/2006 04:53:31 This is as good a thread as any to test my new sig.
Why dont my taranises come with those legs
Because you aren't pimp enough. My first video!
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 06:26:00 -
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Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 22/12/2006 06:26:52 Today an AAA fleet came into JBY and the majority of IAC POS's that were in reinforced mode are refuled and Sov is for now is not under immediate threat. Our thanks go out to AAA, its nice that people that had negative standing for a long time can put arms aside when there is a lot at risk in the South.
Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
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BobGhengisKhan
Finite Horizon The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.12.22 06:32:00 -
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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 22/12/2006 06:33:38 Word on the street is that Seleene won't commit Cap ships against -A-... Who needs an ego when you can win without fighting, tbh.
Any validation or am I CRRAAAZZZEEHHH!?
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Admentus Cor'vion
Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.22 06:39:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Edited by: Nebba Kenezzer on 22/12/2006 05:04:44
The only triple A's I'm worried about are plugged into Shin Ra's d****.
You are a sad little man
Hey Wildcat, long time no see.
ANYWAY - I wanna redirect that.
It's common knowledge that IAC turned around and asked everyone for help, things are going very badly for them (for the time being). Lets just consider a few factors here.
1) Evil Thug's gun do what he's gun do.
I have no doubt in my mind that someone who was timely enough to pick the precise time as to which Huzzah had absolutely no support and ground them into the dirt to claim 3 stations to which they (hardly) ever use, is the type of guy that has "plans".
Whatever these plans are, is anybodys guess. There's a few simple estimations due to his posture and his verbage on his posts as to what they are : You should obviously know what they are being your commrades in IAC probably keep you informed. With that said, there is no shame in not having fear of AAA. I personally do not. To me, this is a game, with simple mechanics when it comes to fleet combat. You assess your objective, you asertain your available resources, and then you make the best possible action to achieve that objective. Whether IAC, AXE, FIX, LV, or anyone else for that matter fit in to that plan is clearly up to him and what he chooses to gear his alliance towards. Now, stating that Nebba is a Sad little man is a definate reflection of your experience on the side of getting kicked by the russians, as your well aware of the harm they can do to ones gaming psyche.
Oh did I say Psyche? That brings me to point number ...
2) AAA has burned into the minds of thier enemies that they are an invulnerable ghost.
While this is quite an easy observation as it seems that they come out of the woodwork when a POS is attacked or being attacked and then vanish when you hold a tactical advantage. This leaves most FC's holding thier d1cks and attempting to keep thier pilots entertained while they wait for hostile fleets that aren't coming for a fight that doesn't need to happen. Yeah the fight smart, they play to win, because winning is fun, thats the object of playing. Here's the thing. Everybody plays with the same game mechanics.
Everybody.
AAA, BOB, Fix, ISS, Minmatar *** Rights League, they ALL deal with the same game mechanics. If you are playing on the same server, there is a way to defeat any oponent in a relatively even matchup if you utilize game mechanics better then your opponent. This is the "battlefield". If you pick your battlegrounds, if your two steps ahead of your current fleet operation in logistics and military planning, if you've got the morale of the troops, you could accomplish anything.
AAA can be beat. As well with bob, it's just the simple fact that no-one has invested the time and the resources to build up enough to actually do it.
I don't blame them the concept is damn near unimaginable. Get up to speed and beat someone who has been doing the same thing you've been doing for 2 years. SO as it comes, the question is typically when.
When is it going to happen?
How is typically tucked away in the details of someones head, but when, when does that perfect storm arise, and powerhouses tumble and new powers rise from the ashes?
When?
You tell me. _______________________________________________
Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve.
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Julien Derida
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.22 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: BobGhengisKhan Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 22/12/2006 06:33:38 Word on the street is that Seleene won't commit Cap ships against -A-... Who needs an ego when you can win without fighting, tbh.
Any validation or am I CRRAAAZZZEEHHH!?
We've comitted cap ships against -A-before, during the defense of FIX's last outpost... ----------------------------------------
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BobGhengisKhan
Finite Horizon The Red Skull
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Posted - 2006.12.22 06:44:00 -
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Originally by: Julien Derida
Originally by: BobGhengisKhan Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 22/12/2006 06:33:38 Word on the street is that Seleene won't commit Cap ships against -A-... Who needs an ego when you can win without fighting, tbh.
Any validation or am I CRRAAAZZZEEHHH!?
We've comitted cap ships against -A-before, during the defense of FIX's last outpost...
Let me edit that, offensively commit cap ships against -A-, ultimatly not needing to worry about any territorial retaliation from the MC.
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matty01
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.12.22 06:47:00 -
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Originally by: Oreh Anavrin AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy.
things change dog, you know that more than alot of people in EVE __________________________
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.12.22 06:52:00 -
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As some have pointed out yes I am informed of many things around the eve universe from friends and alts . I just didnt want to make an initial post detailing events of which I was not present at, which is why I allowed IAC members to have there say before I had mine.
So from what I hear (not an official report) IAC has new found friends in -A-. Its no secret -A- hates ISS and butterdog 8). Anywho it seems MC and LV do not like the idea of offensively using cap ships with -A- involved in the conflict, as the guy above me pointed out. This is thus making ISS a little tee*d off. LV's Titan is probably back in Omist by now hiding in a POS. As for the MC, Im certain they are not out of the fight but this changes everything. Tables might be turning, but like I said this is not an official report
WildCat
Sig nerfz0rd. Remember kids, it's 400x120 and less than 24,000 bytes (not kbytes) -Conuion Meow |
Dina Jorell
Alpha Paradigm
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Posted - 2006.12.22 06:53:00 -
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Edited by: Dina Jorell on 22/12/2006 06:54:24
Originally by: "Admentus Cor'Vion" AAA, BOB, Fix, ISS, Minmatar *** Rights League, they ALL deal with the same game mechanics.
That is true, but inaccurate: yes, we all play with the same game mechanics, but not all of us use them in the same way. AAA has no qualms about using log-on traps which are part of the game mechanics (a clear abuse of them, but still game mechanics, while I have no doubt that if you even suggested this kind of tactics to Seleene, Count TaSessine or most of the other reputable alliances you would be kicked off the conversation faster than you could say "logonski!".
I'd like to make it clear that I do not approve of logoffski/logonski tactics, or any other kind of exploit (because, let's face it, that's what it is), but we cannot deny that as long as AAA are willing/are capable of using them, they will hold a tactical advantage that is very hard to combat via ordinary means.
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.12.22 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion
Originally by: DHB WildCat
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Edited by: Nebba Kenezzer on 22/12/2006 05:04:44
The only triple A's I'm worried about are plugged into Shin Ra's d****.
You are a sad little man
Hey Wildcat, long time no see.
ANYWAY - I wanna redirect that.
It's common knowledge that IAC turned around and asked everyone for help, things are going very badly for them (for the time being). Lets just consider a few factors here.
1) Evil Thug's gun do what he's gun do.
I have no doubt in my mind that someone who was timely enough to pick the precise time as to which Huzzah had absolutely no support and ground them into the dirt to claim 3 stations to which they (hardly) ever use, is the type of guy that has "plans".
Whatever these plans are, is anybodys guess. There's a few simple estimations due to his posture and his verbage on his posts as to what they are : You should obviously know what they are being your commrades in IAC probably keep you informed. With that said, there is no shame in not having fear of AAA. I personally do not. To me, this is a game, with simple mechanics when it comes to fleet combat. You assess your objective, you asertain your available resources, and then you make the best possible action to achieve that objective. Whether IAC, AXE, FIX, LV, or anyone else for that matter fit in to that plan is clearly up to him and what he chooses to gear his alliance towards. Now, stating that Nebba is a Sad little man is a definate reflection of your experience on the side of getting kicked by the russians, as your well aware of the harm they can do to ones gaming psyche.
I called him a sad little man because of his personal attack on Shin Ra nothing more or less
Sig nerfz0rd. Remember kids, it's 400x120 and less than 24,000 bytes (not kbytes) -Conuion Meow |
Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:25:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat
I called him a sad little man because of his personal attack on Shin Ra nothing more or less
I guess a lot of us are guilty about personal attacks on people they dislike in eve without getting to know them, even me. One thing I can say about Shin Ra is talking to him on extending DT TS speak... that shin ra is a riot to talk to.
Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
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Adril Alatar
Minmatar No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: matty01
Originally by: Oreh Anavrin AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy.
things change dog, you know that more than alot of people in EVE
There are things that do not change. And thats a -10 from NoQ to aAa....
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Nebba Kenezzer
Minmatar Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.22 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat I called him a sad little man because of his personal attack on Shin Ra nothing more or less
I suppose I am what I eat.
Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 08:04:00 -
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Originally by: Dina Jorell I'd like to make it clear that I do not approve of logoffski/logonski tactics, or any other kind of exploit (because, let's face it, that's what it is), but we cannot deny that as long as AAA are willing/are capable of using them, they will hold a tactical advantage that is very hard to combat via ordinary means.
GMs have already been contacted to verify if this is an exploit. Logon traps are not exploits in themselves, but using them to such a degree that they crash or lock up your enemy's computers or lag/crash the node is. If someone does this, they'll be warned by GMs to stop it and if they pull a logon trap like that again, they'll be headed for bans for disobeying a GM.
Put simply, if someone pulls a logon trap to make their enemy lag significantly, lock up or disconnect, it's an exploit. If they pull it just to surprise their enemy by dropping in on top of them, it's fine as long as it doesn't cause significant detriment to their enemy. The kicker is that it needs to be established beyond (reasonable) doubt that there was significant detriment to one side caused by this tactic.
I know most people don't bother asking the GMs what they can do as players to assist the GM investigations, but I have. If someone pulls this on us, I've been given a list of information we will be required to give to the GMs so that they can adequately investigate it. I'll make sure our fleet commanders are informed to prepare to collect this information in the event that AAA pull a trap on us during an operation.
Logging in a fleet at a gate to catch someone is fine but if the node lags because of the size of the fleet, it's not okay. How do you make sure you don't cross that line? Run small logoff traps or don't run them at all. 200 pilots logging on at once is 200 warnings from a GM, for sure.
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Ranura Eynara
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.22 08:07:00 -
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If IAC survive this, which imo they will... it will be the final nail in the coffin for MCs credibility
They failed to take IAC before, they came back for more, failed, they came back with FIX, KIA... failed
They came back with FIX, ISS, LV, KIA... and now theyre going to get spanked
Wheres the RAGOON when you need them? :)
They should come up from the rear and eat some LV stragglers
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.22 08:11:00 -
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Edited by: Omeega on 22/12/2006 08:12:07
Originally by: Nyphur I'll make sure our fleet commanders are informed to prepare to collect this information in the event that AAA pull a trap on us during an operation..
It's the last time I'll explain this.
This kind of login trap only occured once, against a SUPREMACY freighter.
It was made by RAT. not even AAA.
It was the first (efficient) one and has been the last one.
The rest is all a timed CTA until we all chose not to stupidly loose ships and make you stress for not knowing when we'll come in.
Think for a second : loggin 100 people at once and ganging them all to warp to a covertops will not take you 5minutes.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Ranura Eynara
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.22 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega Edited by: Omeega on 22/12/2006 08:12:07
Originally by: Nyphur I'll make sure our fleet commanders are informed to prepare to collect this information in the event that AAA pull a trap on us during an operation..
It's the last time I'll explain this.
This kind of login trap only occured once, against a SUPREMACY freighter.
It was made by RAT. not even AAA.
It was the first (efficient) one and has been the last one.
The rest is all a timed CTA until we all chose not to stupidly loose ships and make you stress for not knowing when we'll come in.
Think for a second : loggin 100 people at once and ganging them all to warp to a covertops will not take you 5minutes.
Dont even attempt to deny it, its the forums, rumours have started, BE are nubs with Ravens + stabs and AAA are logintrap sploiters
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 08:15:00 -
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Originally by: Adril Alatar
Originally by: matty01
Originally by: Oreh Anavrin AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy.
things change dog, you know that more than alot of people in EVE
There are things that do not change. And thats a -10 from NoQ to aAa....
I respect that, and hope you guys understand our position ;P
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega
Originally by: Nyphur I'll make sure our fleet commanders are informed to prepare to collect this information in the event that AAA pull a trap on us during an operation..
It's the last time I'll explain this.
This kind of login trap only occured once, against a SUPREMACY freighter. It was made by RAT. not even AAA.
My apologies, I didn't mean to inferr that AAA would pull a massive logoff trap. I merely meant to assert that with all the talk of rumours that large entities (including but not limited to AAA) pull large logoff traps, we are prepared just in case anyone tries it.
Also I'm just giving a bit of advice for anyone that would pull these traps to log their pilots in not at the same time but in smaller squads to avoid lagging the system out. I know logging in over 100 pilots 10-20 at a time over 30 minutes isn't exactly as effective a surprise shock-assault tactic as logging them all in at once but this way avoids unpleasentness with GMs.
Sitting logged off to stress the enemy is a perfectly valid tactic.
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M1NeR
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.22 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ranura Eynara Dont even attempt to deny it, its the forums, rumours have started, BE are nubs with Ravens + stabs and AAA are logintrap sploiters
But ya know, there are also rumors that forums are full of lil babycriers that are good only in one thing. Whining. -------
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Admentus Cor'vion
Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.22 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Ranura Eynara If IAC survive this, which imo they will... it will be the final nail in the coffin for MCs credibility
They failed to take IAC before, they came back for more, failed, they came back with FIX, KIA... failed
They came back with FIX, ISS, LV, KIA... and now theyre going to get spanked
Wheres the RAGOON when you need them? :)
They should come up from the rear and eat some LV stragglers
Your conversation is great and all, but man post with your main. Grudges or whatever you eventually gotta put isk into the mouth and post it on the forums. _______________________________________________
Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve.
"The end and the beginning."
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Admentus Cor'vion
Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.22 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: Adril Alatar
Originally by: matty01
Originally by: Oreh Anavrin AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy.
things change dog, you know that more than alot of people in EVE
There are things that do not change. And thats a -10 from NoQ to aAa....
I respect that, and hope you guys understand our position ;P
Bud, it's a position that you could have easily avoided. _______________________________________________
Black Avatar - One of the oldest corps in Eve.
"The end and the beginning."
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: Adril Alatar
Originally by: matty01
Originally by: Oreh Anavrin AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy.
things change dog, you know that more than alot of people in EVE
There are things that do not change. And thats a -10 from NoQ to aAa....
I respect that, and hope you guys understand our position ;P
Bud, it's a position that you could have easily avoided.
No not really, letting ISS continue to **** all over us wasn't an option, I know being on a leash works out great for FIX, but IAC is different.
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DiuxDium
Casting Shadows
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Posted - 2006.12.22 08:53:00 -
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Edited by: DiuxDium on 22/12/2006 08:55:07
Originally by: Ranura Eynara If IAC survive this, which imo they will... it will be the final nail in the coffin for MCs credibility
They failed to take IAC before, they came back for more, failed, they came back with FIX, KIA... failed
They came back with FIX, ISS, LV, KIA... and now theyre going to get spanked
Wheres the RAGOON when you need them? :)
They should come up from the rear and eat some LV stragglers
Yeah, I to would lose all faith in MC's proven stats if they lost a single operation.
Some day, I'll lern to speak gud.
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Ranura Eynara
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.22 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion Your conversation is great and all, but man post with your main.
This is my main, just because i left a corp. recently to join NPC.
Learn to post plz
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Ranura Eynara
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.12.22 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: DiuxDium Yeah, I to would lose all faith in MC's proven stats if they lost a single operation.
attempt at sarcasm/wit? 'fail'
You have something to say, say it.
Originally by: DiuxDium Some day, I'll lern to speak gud.
wtf is that supposed to imply?
I'm waiting for MC's lastest contractors to mysteriously "stop paying them"
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Excesse
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.22 09:37:00 -
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Look at all you IAC haters getting all defensive now that things are more interesting. Cute as hell! :D
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Krystian
Caldari No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.22 09:40:00 -
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Edited by: Krystian on 22/12/2006 09:41:04 Dubious politics in EvE. What puzzles me is you helped us when it was AAA who destroyed 2 IAC capital ships earlier this year back when we where in Huzzah. Whatever I guess, politics so whacked now. You have Noq's official response Elchief. Be sure your new allies know it when we show. Please forgive us if it isnt overwhelming in response.
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dResche
Minmatar PPN United Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.22 09:55:00 -
[47]
Hello mom! *wink*
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Gutsani
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.22 10:17:00 -
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One question, will RAGOON get involved now also? (on a bigger scale) Since, rat and RA are "good friends".
We heard alot of rumours about RA, but never saw a capital of them.
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Ritchler
Gallente Proof Or Stfu
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Posted - 2006.12.22 10:23:00 -
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Edited by: Ritchler on 22/12/2006 10:23:16
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: Adril Alatar
Originally by: matty01
Originally by: Oreh Anavrin AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy.
things change dog, you know that more than alot of people in EVE
There are things that do not change. And thats a -10 from NoQ to aAa....
I respect that, and hope you guys understand our position ;P
Bud, it's a position that you could have easily avoided.
No not really, letting ISS continue to **** all over us wasn't an option, I know being on a leash works out great for FIX, but IAC is different.
FIX DO NOT, work on a leash for anyone, BOB does not dictate fix policy, tis has already been published by BOB, nor do they pay rent or give bob anything. Ill be blunt. IAC had two options, control your members or be oblitirated. You choose a fight and now your loosing and you choose to ally yourself with the biggest bunch of explpoiters and disgusting players in eve, AAA, says alot for you really
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.22 10:28:00 -
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WOAHHHHHHHH HORSEY!!!!!!
Okies okies okies.
I see peopel in this thread questioning MC's "rep"
That is simply ridiculous.
MC are MERCENARIES. PLease re-read that. MERCENARIES
Which means they do what they get paid to do.
They were paid (hope I'm not breaking any NDA here) to take F4R and punch IAC in the face... hard
F4R will fall to ISS today, and I am sure if you ask IAC, their faces are sore.
MC have done as always all the employer has asked of them. Nothing more nothing less, thats the ethic of a Merc.
What will happen in the future is not MCs dcision, they have no personal feelings here.
As usual they have gone in, done the business, and spent the Employers ISK well.
AAA joining IAC.... bold move from IAC, but a move of desperation. Its ISS move now, no one elses.
KIA EVE Home
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Kazim
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.22 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ritchler Edited by: Ritchler on 22/12/2006 10:23:16
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: Adril Alatar
Originally by: matty01
Originally by: Oreh Anavrin AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy.
things change dog, you know that more than alot of people in EVE
There are things that do not change. And thats a -10 from NoQ to aAa....
I respect that, and hope you guys understand our position ;P
Bud, it's a position that you could have easily avoided.
No not really, letting ISS continue to **** all over us wasn't an option, I know being on a leash works out great for FIX, but IAC is different.
FIX DO NOT, work on a leash for anyone, BOB does not dictate fix policy, tis has already been published by BOB, nor do they pay rent or give bob anything. Ill be blunt. IAC had two options, control your members or be oblitirated. You choose a fight and now your loosing and you choose to ally yourself with the biggest bunch of explpoiters and disgusting players in eve, AAA, says alot for you really
Look, calling AAA "the biggest bunch of exploiters and disgusting players in eve" is very harsh. We have this rep because people like to blame external or out of game tactics when they lose, i.e. AXE losing crapload of capitals.
Also what Omeega said, logging in 100 pilots, ganging them and then warp them to a cov op does not consitute a log on trap. This all takes some time. And you would see that if you would stop acting like a child and stop screaming "no fair" everytime you lose.
So before, my lovely FIX alt, you start shouting crap here get some proof or STFU. And saying you saw a bunch of whiners post here is not proof. Anyone with a IQ over 90 knows that most of the posts here are bull ****.
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.12.22 10:45:00 -
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I'm going to take a vacation in Syndicate. It's very calm and tranquil compaired to the south these days.
Or to be more blunt. everybody has lost their fargin minds down here!
Originally by: Crumplecorn Wow, CCP make a change that eliminates whines and there are whines about the lack of whines.
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Sherpondeldey
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Posted - 2006.12.22 10:54:00 -
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wow. Was it a voice from the grave? I thought ASCN does not exist anymore
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n sx
The Tidemark Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ WOAHHHHHHHH HORSEY!!!!!!
They were paid (hope I'm not breaking any NDA here) to take F4R and punch IAC in the face... hard
F4R will fall to ISS today, and I am sure if you ask IAC, their faces are sore.
Hi Eddz,
Thanks for clarifying the primary objective of ISS' intentions was purely defensive.
Good times people.
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Lowa
Gallente North Star Networks Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2006.12.22 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ranura Eynara If IAC survive this, which imo they will... it will be the final nail in the coffin for MCs credibility
They failed to take IAC before, they came back for more, failed, they came back with FIX, KIA... failed
They came back with FIX, ISS, LV, KIA... and now theyre going to get spanked
Normally I dont care but for the love of god get on the same server that the rest of us play on.
Cheers, Lowa
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OozoO
Caldari Decadence. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.12.22 10:57:00 -
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I ... like ... this :)
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 11:03:00 -
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Eddz; I don't see how making friends with .-A-. is desperate, was kinda inevitable in the long run due to the nature of our relationship with GS, RA, TCF etc..
Them being hostile to our friends in NoQ and AXE kept them on our need to have red list until it stopped being viable
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Yalson
Caldari Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.22 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Kazim
So before, my lovely FIX alt, you start shouting crap here get some proof or STFU.
I am fairly confident that the nonsense posted by this alt does not originate from FIX. We might have our differences with AAA, but may I point you at the thread describing our lil' clash in ED-; you'll find nothing but congratulations for a great fight and not a single complaint regarding your approach to playing.
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Emrod
Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2006.12.22 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: Emrod on 22/12/2006 11:24:17
Originally by: n sx
Originally by: KIAEddZ WOAHHHHHHHH HORSEY!!!!!!
They were paid (hope I'm not breaking any NDA here) to take F4R and punch IAC in the face... hard
F4R will fall to ISS today, and I am sure if you ask IAC, their faces are sore.
Hi Eddz,
Thanks for clarifying the primary objective of ISS' intentions was purely defensive.
Good times people.
All the big politic entity or empire in human history justify their war crimes by the fact they defend themself againts terror or to prevent war by the others rogue nations .But we all know its just an escuse to extend their power or economic dominance over the other nations.
Purely defensive you say...
Ya rigth
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 11:29:00 -
[60]
Originally by: n sx
Originally by: KIAEddZ WOAHHHHHHHH HORSEY!!!!!!
They were paid (hope I'm not breaking any NDA here) to take F4R and punch IAC in the face... hard
F4R will fall to ISS today, and I am sure if you ask IAC, their faces are sore.
Hi Eddz,
Thanks for clarifying the primary objective of ISS' intentions was purely defensive.
Good times people.
Eddz does not represent ISS in any way, shape or form. And as far as I am aware, there has been no contact between he and ISS Management regarding the war on IAC whatsoever, no information has been given to him and no attempts at co-ordinating his corp with any involved party has been made.
As far as I know, KIAEddz was hired by a third party and his corp are on their own and represent only themselves.
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KIAEddZ
Caldari KIA Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.22 11:32:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: n sx
Originally by: KIAEddZ WOAHHHHHHHH HORSEY!!!!!!
They were paid (hope I'm not breaking any NDA here) to take F4R and punch IAC in the face... hard
F4R will fall to ISS today, and I am sure if you ask IAC, their faces are sore.
Hi Eddz,
Thanks for clarifying the primary objective of ISS' intentions was purely defensive.
Good times people.
Eddz does not represent ISS in any way, shape or form. And as far as I am aware, there has been no contact between he and ISS Management regarding the war on IAC whatsoever, no information has been given to him and no attempts at co-ordinating his corp with any involved party has been made.
As far as I know, KIAEddz was hired by a third party and his corp are on their own and represent only themselves.
Absolutely true.
Its only opinion
KIA EVE Home
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Reef Reefov
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.22 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ritchler with the biggest bunch of explpoiters and disgusting players in eve, AAA
pics or stfu
btw, respect to IAC 4 fighting against that heap
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Pyxee
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.22 11:48:00 -
[63]
Good luck AAA..... hope you kill lots and lots of 'em.
And I demand a fraps vid.
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CardboardSword42
Celtic Anarchy Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2006.12.22 12:17:00 -
[64]
Give them hell IAC and AAA. Two of the coolest alliances in game working together, should be interesting
I'm Ex-Biomass, that makes me cool But now I'm KOS and that makes me cooler 8)
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GO MaZ
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.22 12:24:00 -
[65]
Well, this is an interesting one... between watching an entity that's been blue for my entire PVP period in eve die to a gank force of almost 6000 and watching that same entity being helped out by an alliance that has been red for maybe half that... I choose the latter. No matter what people's opinion of -A-, they ARE now involved and only time will tell how much of a difference that makes. Personally, it'll be nice to see some old friends + again (pardouche)... and all I can really say is, maybe you shouldnt've pushed IAC that hard
Lacks eve related content. Kreul Intentions ([email protected]) Lacks pretty pink text. MaZ ([email protected]) |
Monahlott
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.12.22 12:45:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Sherpondeldey wow. Was it a voice from the grave? I thought ASCN does not exist anymore
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.22 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: Pyxee Good luck AAA..... hope you kill lots and lots of 'em.
And I demand a fraps vid.
i have Thug dancing **** nakid in a karaoke bar.
(for real!)
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Malius
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2006.12.22 13:03:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Malius on 22/12/2006 13:07:32
Originally by: Kazim
Look, calling AAA "the biggest bunch of exploiters and disgusting players in eve" is very harsh. We have this rep because people like to blame external or out of game tactics when they lose, i.e. AXE losing crapload of capitals.
Nope, people are saying that because axe got all the capitals back from the logonski in question. So.. hmm .. you had to have done something wrong eh?
But seriously.. good luck IAC & AAA, bash'em gud.
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.22 13:09:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Malius Edited by: Malius on 22/12/2006 13:07:32
Originally by: Kazim
Look, calling AAA "the biggest bunch of exploiters and disgusting players in eve" is very harsh. We have this rep because people like to blame external or out of game tactics when they lose, i.e. AXE losing crapload of capitals.
Nope, people are saying that because axe got all the capitals back from the logonski in question. So.. hmm .. you had to have done something wrong eh?
But seriously.. good luck IAC & AAA, bash'em gud.
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Saucerhead
Forum Moderator
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Posted - 2006.12.22 13:11:00 -
[70]
Alt posts and answers to those posts removed. Read the rules for this forum before posting or face the consequences. --
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Evil Thug
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.22 13:18:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Malius
Nope, people are saying that because axe got all the capitals back from the logonski in question. So.. hmm .. you had to have done something wrong eh?
You still haven`t provided eve community with any kind of proof about cap ship reimbursement. I haven`t found proof on your internal forums either. I dont think that AXE leadership missed opportunity like this to boost your morale. More of that, in one post of Steel Rat, he said, that it took 1 month of heavy work to replace these ships.
Of course its up to you, whom to beleive. With destruction of your capital ships we accomplished many goals, and removing you from impass became much more easy for us.
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c0rn1
Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A
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Posted - 2006.12.22 13:19:00 -
[72]
I say:
Let the guns do the talking!
o7 x x x x x x x x x x x x x x
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.22 13:21:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Malius
Nope, people are saying that because axe got all the capitals back from the logonski in question. So.. hmm .. you had to have done something wrong eh?
You still haven`t provided eve community with any kind of proof about cap ship reimbursement. I haven`t found proof on your internal forums either. I dont think that AXE leadership missed opportunity like this to boost your morale. More of that, in one post of Steel Rat, he said, that it took 1 month of heavy work to replace these ships.
Of course its up to you, whom to beleive. With destruction of your capital ships we accomplished many goals, and removing you from impass became much more easy for us.
logon MSN please.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Silvestri
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 13:28:00 -
[74]
this is fun....and the sigs ***** my ass up...homer...run theyre' logging on...I gotta pee...
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Halafian
The Graduates
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Posted - 2006.12.22 13:33:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Halafian on 22/12/2006 13:39:05
Originally by: n sx
Originally by: KIAEddZ WOAHHHHHHHH HORSEY!!!!!!
They were paid (hope I'm not breaking any NDA here) to take F4R and punch IAC in the face... hard
F4R will fall to ISS today, and I am sure if you ask IAC, their faces are sore.
Hi Eddz,
Thanks for clarifying the primary objective of ISS' intentions was purely defensive.
Good times people.
I guess you might have a point IF you think "defensive" means letting your attacker do whatever he likes while you have to fight with one hand behind your back.
But most normal people think "defensive" means you don't initiate attacks, not that you don't finish a fight someone else starts (as IAC started this).
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nickky01
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.22 13:51:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Krystian Edited by: Krystian on 22/12/2006 09:41:04 Dubious politics in EvE. What puzzles me is you helped us when it was AAA who destroyed 2 IAC capital ships earlier this year back when we where in Huzzah. Whatever I guess, politics so whacked now. You have Noq's official response Elchief. Be sure your new allies know it when we show. Please forgive us if it isnt overwhelming in response.
while i understand where your coming from...i used to hate AAA, back in the day when they were taking our stations i REALLY didn't like them...then i actually got to know a few of the guys in collective and RAT...and it turns out they are pretty cool guys. say what you want about them...i used to call them the same names...but they are normal guys, they are very good pvp'ers...and sadist even asked me out on a date
times change man, remember we used to hate FIX to but eventually they turned blue to...
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Bach
Caldari Tyrell Corp
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Posted - 2006.12.22 14:05:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Excesse Look at all you IAC haters getting all defensive now that things are more interesting. Cute as hell! :D
Long post with lots of different points to discuss. I'm just going to put all mine here in this one post.
There are no IAC haters in this conflict. Some are here for the pay, some feel they are defending they're empire/bussiness interests and some are here just for the fights. To my knowledge no one is here for hate of IAC. I may not understand some of the things IAC command does from time to time but I don't hate them. We've had good contests in the past. Each side has its smackers but on the whole I don't think hate describes it at all. Tyraxx is one of the few pilots I would trust and follow into fights he lead. No hate, I just happen to be playing on the opposing team for this contest.
Lag traps - might have worked months ago and vs. smaller numbers but not likely to have the same results anymore. In fact, with the weight of numbers fielded these days in cap ship fights its more likely to help the aggressors DN's than to have any hope of getting them killed at a POS fight.
AAA entering the the IAC fight - If they have come to attack ISS interests along side IAC, I say bring it on. They may bring a lot of ships to the fight but then again like everyone in the south they have enemies too. This just means they're enemies will join in as well or take advantage of the situation in one means or another. What may seem an advantage today often becomes a disadvantage tommarrow.
Logistics - this is what its all about in cap ship contests. If you buy your ships one at a time and have them personally owned your going to be a force till that one day you lose. Build an organization that replaces loses in turn and your always going to be a serious force. I have confidence in the logistics base of the side we're on.
In the end, those that have the courage and the logistics backing to let the citadel torps fly whenever they need too, need not fear anyone in Eve.
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.22 14:05:00 -
[78]
everybody wants in on the shooty shooty, i wouldnt be surpised if D2 would come and help IAC --
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Silvestri
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 14:15:00 -
[79]
I wouldn't be suprised if someone hit ISS in the back door. Not that I know the map or anything but....all the focus no this side....make for one hell of an opportunity to any opportunists....
btw...Nice post Bach...good points in that post...
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nickky01
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.22 14:27:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Bach
Originally by: Excesse Look at all you IAC haters getting all defensive now that things are more interesting. Cute as hell! :D
Long post with lots of different points to discuss. I'm just going to put all mine here in this one post.
There are no IAC haters in this conflict. Some are here for the pay, some feel they are defending they're empire/bussiness interests and some are here just for the fights. To my knowledge no one is here for hate of IAC. I may not understand some of the things IAC command does from time to time but I don't hate them. We've had good contests in the past. Each side has its smackers but on the whole I don't think hate describes it at all. Tyraxx is one of the few pilots I would trust and follow into fights he lead. No hate, I just happen to be playing on the opposing team for this contest.
Lag traps - might have worked months ago and vs. smaller numbers but not likely to have the same results anymore. In fact, with the weight of numbers fielded these days in cap ship fights its more likely to help the aggressors DN's than to have any hope of getting them killed at a POS fight.
AAA entering the the IAC fight - If they have come to attack ISS interests along side IAC, I say bring it on. They may bring a lot of ships to the fight but then again like everyone in the south they have enemies too. This just means they're enemies will join in as well or take advantage of the situation in one means or another. What may seem an advantage today often becomes a disadvantage tommarrow.
Logistics - this is what its all about in cap ship contests. If you buy your ships one at a time and have them personally owned your going to be a force till that one day you lose. Build an organization that replaces loses in turn and your always going to be a serious force. I have confidence in the logistics base of the side we're on.
In the end, those that have the courage and the logistics backing to let the citadel torps fly whenever they need too, need not fear anyone in Eve.
well said
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Phrixus Zephyr
Yesodic Nomads Corp Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2006.12.22 14:28:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Ritchler Edited by: Ritchler on 22/12/2006 10:23:16
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: Adril Alatar
Originally by: matty01
Originally by: Oreh Anavrin AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy.
things change dog, you know that more than alot of people in EVE
There are things that do not change. And thats a -10 from NoQ to aAa....
I respect that, and hope you guys understand our position ;P
Bud, it's a position that you could have easily avoided.
No not really, letting ISS continue to **** all over us wasn't an option, I know being on a leash works out great for FIX, but IAC is different.
FIX DO NOT, work on a leash for anyone, BOB does not dictate fix policy, tis has already been published by BOB, nor do they pay rent or give bob anything. Ill be blunt. IAC had two options, control your members or be oblitirated. You choose a fight and now your loosing and you choose to ally yourself with the biggest bunch of explpoiters and disgusting players in eve, AAA, says alot for you really
Lol, thats funny. I could of sworn BoB control FiX space and defend it when FiX arn't up to the job. Not the mention FiX's current trend of riding on MC's coat tails because they can't organise their own gank.
Originally by: Victor Ramirez using it to get the layout of a new system and a quick belt-check is about as practical as using Google Earth to see if your car is still in front of your house.
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Butter Dog
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat As some have pointed out yes I am informed of many things around the eve universe from friends and alts . I just didnt want to make an initial post detailing events of which I was not present at, which is why I allowed IAC members to have there say before I had mine.
So from what I hear (not an official report) IAC has new found friends in -A-. Its no secret -A- hates ISS and butterdog 8). Anywho it seems MC and LV do not like the idea of offensively using cap ships with -A- involved in the conflict, as the guy above me pointed out. This is thus making ISS a little tee*d off. LV's Titan is probably back in Omist by now hiding in a POS. As for the MC, Im certain they are not out of the fight but this changes everything. Tables might be turning, but like I said this is not an official report
WildCat
AAA don't hate anyone, they just enjoy fighting. They saw the chance for a bit of pew pew on the map, fitted their BS against the doomesday device, and came rolling in expecting a big punch-up.
Of course, no-one in their right mind is going to commit capitals with 100 AAA logged off at a POS and their cap fleet (and possibly RA's) waiting to jump in at a seconds notice.
And, please, stop talking about me like I am someone - I'm just a foot soldier in ISS.
------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
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Silvestri
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 14:40:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Originally by: Ritchler Edited by: Ritchler on 22/12/2006 10:23:16
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: Admentus Cor'vion
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: Adril Alatar
Originally by: matty01
Originally by: Oreh Anavrin AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy.
things change dog, you know that more than alot of people in EVE
WOOOWWWW....HE SAID IT another great post...
There are things that do not change. And thats a -10 from NoQ to aAa....
I respect that, and hope you guys understand our position ;P
Bud, it's a position that you could have easily avoided.
No not really, letting ISS continue to **** all over us wasn't an option, I know being on a leash works out great for FIX, but IAC is different.
FIX DO NOT, work on a leash for anyone, BOB does not dictate fix policy, tis has already been published by BOB, nor do they pay rent or give bob anything. Ill be blunt. IAC had two options, control your members or be oblitirated. You choose a fight and now your loosing and you choose to ally yourself with the biggest bunch of explpoiters and disgusting players in eve, AAA, says alot for you really
Lol, thats funny. I could of sworn BoB control FiX space and defend it when FiX arn't up to the job. Not the mention FiX's current trend of riding on MC's coat tails because they can't organise their own gank.
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Cadiz
Caldari No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.22 15:07:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Malius
Nope, people are saying that because axe got all the capitals back from the logonski in question. So.. hmm .. you had to have done something wrong eh?
You still haven`t provided eve community with any kind of proof about cap ship reimbursement. I haven`t found proof on your internal forums either. I dont think that AXE leadership missed opportunity like this to boost your morale. More of that, in one post of Steel Rat, he said, that it took 1 month of heavy work to replace these ships.
Of course its up to you, whom to beleive. With destruction of your capital ships we accomplished many goals, and removing you from impass became much more easy for us.
Our corp's Phoenix pilot who lost a dread during that particular stunt got his back, so no, I can indeed confirm that those cap ships were reimbursed. Much to your chagrin I'm sure, and hell, even though we benefited, I don't even think the situation warranted a reimbursing. Gift horses and all that though, I suppose. The GMs put it in V2 station at first though, so he had to petition again to get it moved to somewhere sane. ------ Quartermaster, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence." |
Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ WOAHHHHHHHH HORSEY!!!!!!
Okies okies okies.
I see peopel in this thread questioning MC's "rep"
That is simply ridiculous.
MC are MERCENARIES. PLease re-read that. MERCENARIES
Which means they do what they get paid to do.
They were paid (hope I'm not breaking any NDA here) to take F4R and punch IAC in the face... hard
F4R will fall to ISS today, and I am sure if you ask IAC, their faces are sore.
MC have done as always all the employer has asked of them. Nothing more nothing less, thats the ethic of a Merc.
What will happen in the future is not MCs dcision, they have no personal feelings here.
As usual they have gone in, done the business, and spent the Employers ISK well.
AAA joining IAC.... bold move from IAC, but a move of desperation. Its ISS move now, no one elses.
F4 being taken remains to be seen. It might fall. It might not. Let the fighting ships decide that.
MC has been NOTHING but professional. A number of concerns of the game's warfare mechanics have come into question if nothing more to hear the DEV ideas about them. The fact that they had the b@llz to field motherships on stations AND gates in multiple systems says a lot about where money is spent and the reputation they have. Nothing... but... respect. As always <3
LV showed up in a morale busting, grand appearence that when you look at it... was magestic. Nothing the likes atleast I have seen and I was hit by judgement. Obviously I was a good girl all year since I lived. Santa <3
AAA joining may seem like desperation but it was bound to happen. We are allied with a lot of their freinds. We fought them side by side AXE, not as much as we'd like to have, and we fight their raiders from time to time. Despite what people say people like creamster and his raiding crew provide good fights. When they kill stuff... I can sell another ship or modules. YARR. We have respect for AAA and the Ragoons and like how they treat their freinds... its not a business or a dictator ship. It is family. That is why my corp joined IAC and why I like Ragoons.
Lets not let the thread derail into a Fix/AAA flaim fest or 'MC lost again rabble.'
We love the attention, we love the pew pew and we like clusterfarks. We started wanting pew pew and got something much, much more escalated. As ISS saying through their allies that they were only here to take F4 I have to ask why they put nearly every POS in Jby and 1 in G-7 into reinforced mode. What they got was something they and their allies and mercs didn't want. We didn't want POS war. They don't want to fight an IAC with AAA in their corner. What happens next is what popcorn was invented for.
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Toman Torax
Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.22 15:20:00 -
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And for the record - Omeega wins the thread... AGAIN
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shadyfox99
Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.22 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi
F4 being taken remains to be seen. It might fall. It might not. Let the fighting ships decide that.
MC has been NOTHING but professional. A number of concerns of the game's warfare mechanics have come into question if nothing more to hear the DEV ideas about them. The fact that they had the b@llz to field motherships on stations AND gates in multiple systems says a lot about where money is spent and the reputation they have. Nothing... but... respect. As always <3
LV showed up in a morale busting, grand appearence that when you look at it... was magestic. Nothing the likes atleast I have seen and I was hit by judgement. Obviously I was a good girl all year since I lived. Santa <3
AAA joining may seem like desperation but it was bound to happen. We are allied with a lot of their freinds. We fought them side by side AXE, not as much as we'd like to have, and we fight their raiders from time to time. Despite what people say people like creamster and his raiding crew provide good fights. When they kill stuff... I can sell another ship or modules. YARR. We have respect for AAA and the Ragoons and like how they treat their freinds... its not a business or a dictator ship. It is family. That is why my corp joined IAC and why I like Ragoons.
Lets not let the thread derail into a Fix/AAA flaim fest or 'MC lost again rabble.'
We love the attention, we love the pew pew and we like clusterfarks. We started wanting pew pew and got something much, much more escalated. As ISS saying through their allies that they were only here to take F4 I have to ask why they put nearly every POS in Jby and 1 in G-7 into reinforced mode. What they got was something they and their allies and mercs didn't want. We didn't want POS war. They don't want to fight an IAC with AAA in their corner. What happens next is what popcorn was invented for.
I think thats one of the most non-biased (or atleast less biased) posts i've seen about the war. Respect.
Things will definetly be interesting over the next few days.
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Gragnor
Ordos Humanitas
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Posted - 2006.12.22 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: nickky01
Originally by: Krystian Edited by: Krystian on 22/12/2006 09:41:04 Dubious politics in EvE. What puzzles me is you helped us when it was AAA who destroyed 2 IAC capital ships earlier this year back when we where in Huzzah. Whatever I guess, politics so whacked now. You have Noq's official response Elchief. Be sure your new allies know it when we show. Please forgive us if it isnt overwhelming in response.
while i understand where your coming from...i used to hate AAA, back in the day when they were taking our stations i REALLY didn't like them...then i actually got to know a few of the guys in collective and RAT...and it turns out they are pretty cool guys. say what you want about them...i used to call them the same names...but they are normal guys, they are very good pvp'ers...and sadist even asked me out on a date
times change man, remember we used to hate FIX to but eventually they turned blue to...
Much as I want to, I cannot hate any Alliance that has Svetlanna in it!!!
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.12.22 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk
Originally by: Adril Alatar
Originally by: matty01
Originally by: Oreh Anavrin AAA and IAC? Damn, screwed up stnadings, old frieds flying with hated ennemy.
things change dog, you know that more than alot of people in EVE
There are things that do not change. And thats a -10 from NoQ to aAa....
I respect that, and hope you guys understand our position ;P
I dont know about that.... the only friends Huzzah ever had were IAC, and NOQ imo has many pilots that in a similar mindset as I am. I would temporarily put aside my dislike for -A- to help a long time and only friend in IAC. Once the conflict was over then reset standing to -A- as red. This makes much more sense to me than no we wont help IAC because we dont like -A-. Maybe NOQ will help if asked 8). Anyways have fun guys
WildCat
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GO MaZ
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.22 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: Gragnor Much as I want to, I cannot hate any Alliance that has Svetlanna in it!!!
Crazy upside-down people
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DeWieKat
Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.22 16:46:00 -
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Edited by: DeWieKat on 22/12/2006 16:46:23
Originally by: Cadiz
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Malius
Nope, people are saying that because axe got all the capitals back from the logonski in question. So.. hmm .. you had to have done something wrong eh?
You still haven`t provided eve community with any kind of proof about cap ship reimbursement. I haven`t found proof on your internal forums either. I dont think that AXE leadership missed opportunity like this to boost your morale. More of that, in one post of Steel Rat, he said, that it took 1 month of heavy work to replace these ships.
Of course its up to you, whom to beleive. With destruction of your capital ships we accomplished many goals, and removing you from impass became much more easy for us.
Our corp's Phoenix pilot who lost a dread during that particular stunt got his back, so no, I can indeed confirm that those cap ships were reimbursed. Much to your chagrin I'm sure, and hell, even though we benefited, I don't even think the situation warranted a reimbursing. Gift horses and all that though, I suppose. The GMs put it in V2 station at first though, so he had to petition again to get it moved to somewhere sane.
well NOQ... uve failed in huzzah, uve failed among axe, which puts u in a not very comfortable position to discuss in here, dont u think?
p.s.: hows syndicate btw ?
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Krystian
Caldari No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.22 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: nickky01
Originally by: Krystian Edited by: Krystian on 22/12/2006 09:41:04 Dubious politics in EvE. What puzzles me is you helped us when it was AAA who destroyed 2 IAC capital ships earlier this year back when we where in Huzzah. Whatever I guess, politics so whacked now. You have Noq's official response Elchief. Be sure your new allies know it when we show. Please forgive us if it isnt overwhelming in response.
while i understand where your coming from...i used to hate AAA, back in the day when they were taking our stations i REALLY didn't like them...then i actually got to know a few of the guys in collective and RAT...and it turns out they are pretty cool guys. say what you want about them...i used to call them the same names...but they are normal guys, they are very good pvp'ers...and sadist even asked me out on a date
times change man, remember we used to hate FIX to but eventually they turned blue to...
Ask Matty sometime about my month without EvE and perhaps you can understand my bitterness and suspicion. Im sure plenty of decent people in -A- but a few rotten apples spoil the bunch.
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Kashre
Minmatar Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.22 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Lol, thats funny. I could of sworn BoB control FiX space and defend it when FiX arn't up to the job. Not the mention FiX's current trend of riding on MC's coat tails because they can't organise their own gank.
AFAIK the only times BOB has ever helped defend Querious was a> when they initially took the stations after we got the Big Dogpile, and b> during the defence of our second outpost egg. It's not like they're holding our willies when we go to the john. :P +++
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Witch Doctor
Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.22 18:05:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
F4 being taken remains to be seen. It might fall. It might not. Let the fighting ships decide that.
MC has been NOTHING but professional. A number of concerns of the game's warfare mechanics have come into question if nothing more to hear the DEV ideas about them. The fact that they had the b@llz to field motherships on stations AND gates in multiple systems says a lot about where money is spent and the reputation they have. Nothing... but... respect. As always <3
LV showed up in a morale busting, grand appearence that when you look at it... was magestic. Nothing the likes atleast I have seen and I was hit by judgement. Obviously I was a good girl all year since I lived. Santa <3
AAA joining may seem like desperation but it was bound to happen. We are allied with a lot of their freinds. We fought them side by side AXE, not as much as we'd like to have, and we fight their raiders from time to time. Despite what people say people like creamster and his raiding crew provide good fights. When they kill stuff... I can sell another ship or modules. YARR. We have respect for AAA and the Ragoons and like how they treat their freinds... its not a business or a dictator ship. It is family. That is why my corp joined IAC and why I like Ragoons.
Lets not let the thread derail into a Fix/AAA flaim fest or 'MC lost again rabble.'
We love the attention, we love the pew pew and we like clusterfarks. We started wanting pew pew and got something much, much more escalated. As ISS saying through their allies that they were only here to take F4 I have to ask why they put nearly every POS in Jby and 1 in G-7 into reinforced mode. What they got was something they and their allies and mercs didn't want. We didn't want POS war. They don't want to fight an IAC with AAA in their corner. What happens next is what popcorn was invented for.
Props for a civil post with a meaningful contribution.
From what we have seen in the threads related to this conflict, there are a lot of calcified opinions out there about a number of organizations based on past histories and conflicts. There are some people in this game that cast a judgment with a finality and rigidity that, while it ennobles them to give us bright, blazing flames in the forums, dramatically limits their political and military options down the road.
From my perspective, the entities that survive are the ones that have a very short memory. If you hold grudges or get locked into a way of thinking about who your friends and enemies are, pretty soon you have none of the former and all of the latter, and when there are no demons to slay outside, the organization turns within. A good example is IAC setting aside its previous conflict with AAA - there are clear dividends for them now. There are a lot of parties involved that face a similar turning point. As mercs, it is part of our identity to submit loyalties and emnities with the bill and move on, so by nature we have to take this to an extreme. We could just as easily be working for someone next week that we're shooting this week. But it is still true for other entities to a lesser extent as well, and it will be fascinating to see who shows that ability and who doesn't.
Should be a very interesting week once you sort through all the smack and trolling sure to come ...
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Krystian
Caldari No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.22 18:10:00 -
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On new light on this subject we withdraw support to IAC so as long as they are allied with -A-. I regret to do this but we must refuse. At a latter date if you wish to call in a favor from us without said party -A- involved let us know and we will assist. That is all.
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USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.12.22 18:19:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Kashre
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Lol, thats funny. I could of sworn BoB control FiX space and defend it when FiX arn't up to the job. Not the mention FiX's current trend of riding on MC's coat tails because they can't organise their own gank.
AFAIK the only times BOB has ever helped defend Querious was a> when they initially took the stations after we got the Big Dogpile, and b> during the defence of our second outpost egg. It's not like they're holding our willies when we go to the john. :P
Kashre - forgive me for smacking you dude since ur one of the nice people in fix but are you living in a Bubble Wrap? Saying the only times BOB has helped defend you guys on those two occasions is like sleeping through the last two years and only waking up when u got some free milk to suck on...
Kashre i know u know the history of fix so i wont remind you any more.
As for Phrixus Zephyrs post you are wiser than 1000 diplomats. I salute you for that statement!!!
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Imode
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.22 18:21:00 -
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Buzee
Flight Of Fantasy
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Posted - 2006.12.22 18:22:00 -
[98]
Edited by: Buzee on 22/12/2006 18:22:42
Originally by: Krystian On new light on this subject we withdraw support to IAC so as long as they are allied with -A-. I regret to do this but we must refuse. At a latter date if you wish to call in a favor from us without said party -A- involved let us know and we will assist. That is all.
no quater are i must admit irrelevant in this matter, even in npc stations in syndicate AE hand it to you daily comparing kbs. ur pvp ability speaks for itself. go IAC/AAA/RA/GOONS. has any of you thougt about a blietzkrieg on mc's 4 outpost's..i bet if you re-inforced the systems, they'd surely be forced to square that capital fleet they have used uptil(AAA ftw) now put to use as per their contract. it would surely stir the hornets nest for **** n giggles
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Man1ac
Xenobytes Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.22 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Krystian On new light on this subject we withdraw support to IAC so as long as they are allied with -A-. I regret to do this but we must refuse. At a latter date if you wish to call in a favor from us without said party -A- involved let us know and we will assist. That is all.
That paint you as a very good IAC ally, isn't it? ;)
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Sadist
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.22 18:43:00 -
[100]
Edited by: Sadist on 22/12/2006 18:43:19
Originally by: Krystian On new light on this subject we withdraw support to IAC so as long as they are allied with -A-. I regret to do this but we must refuse. At a latter date if you wish to call in a favor from us without said party -A- involved let us know and we will assist. That is all.
*Cough* It's ok if you want to disaffiliate yourself with major Alliances in the game for a while. *cough* After all, your history within them has been rather...unsuccessful. ņņņņņņņņņņņņ
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nickky01
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.22 19:05:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Krystian
Originally by: nickky01
Originally by: Krystian Edited by: Krystian on 22/12/2006 09:41:04 Dubious politics in EvE. What puzzles me is you helped us when it was AAA who destroyed 2 IAC capital ships earlier this year back when we where in Huzzah. Whatever I guess, politics so whacked now. You have Noq's official response Elchief. Be sure your new allies know it when we show. Please forgive us if it isnt overwhelming in response.
while i understand where your coming from...i used to hate AAA, back in the day when they were taking our stations i REALLY didn't like them...then i actually got to know a few of the guys in collective and RAT...and it turns out they are pretty cool guys. say what you want about them...i used to call them the same names...but they are normal guys, they are very good pvp'ers...and sadist even asked me out on a date
times change man, remember we used to hate FIX to but eventually they turned blue to...
Ask Matty sometime about my month without EvE and perhaps you can understand my bitterness and suspicion. Im sure plenty of decent people in -A- but a few rotten apples spoil the bunch.
trust me, i know all about the paranoia and suspicion you had...you forget that while matty was is NOQ he still had forum access...he literally sits like 5 feet away so it wasn't hard to check up on you guys during my failed tenure as leader of viziam...i think i even made a few posts in there \o/
anyways yeah, what happend to you sucked, but tbh unless you have conclusive proof of excatly what happend then its hard to point fingers...what was happening at the time with AXE and NOQ only made the blame that much more easy i think.
i'm not trying to rag on you guys for setting IAC to -10, its just my opinion that friendships in game (between corps and alliances) are more important then 1 or 2 peoples personal greivances with an alliance...yeah kicked our buts all over catch, then impass, and like i said i did not like them to much, but over time i came to look at it as a learning expierience, and what not to do rather then let get to me every day.
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Krystian
Caldari No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.22 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Krystian on 22/12/2006 19:20:01
We didnt set IAC -10. Not even neutral. They are still blue to us. Infact it was ISS we set -10 for their actions against IAC. We where planning and all set to assist untill this snafu happened. My personal reasoning is my own. I am sorry we dont see eye to eye on it. The smack from -A- so far only proves my point. We are happy and can live with all other IAC allies but -A- at this point in time is not an option.
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Cadiz
Caldari No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.22 19:36:00 -
[103]
Edited by: Cadiz on 22/12/2006 19:42:29
Originally by: DeWieKat Edited by: DeWieKat on 22/12/2006 16:46:23
Originally by: Cadiz
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Malius
Nope, people are saying that because axe got all the capitals back from the logonski in question. So.. hmm .. you had to have done something wrong eh?
You still haven`t provided eve community with any kind of proof about cap ship reimbursement. I haven`t found proof on your internal forums either. I dont think that AXE leadership missed opportunity like this to boost your morale. More of that, in one post of Steel Rat, he said, that it took 1 month of heavy work to replace these ships.
Of course its up to you, whom to beleive. With destruction of your capital ships we accomplished many goals, and removing you from impass became much more easy for us.
Our corp's Phoenix pilot who lost a dread during that particular stunt got his back, so no, I can indeed confirm that those cap ships were reimbursed. Much to your chagrin I'm sure, and hell, even though we benefited, I don't even think the situation warranted a reimbursing. Gift horses and all that though, I suppose. The GMs put it in V2 station at first though, so he had to petition again to get it moved to somewhere sane.
well NOQ... uve failed in huzzah, uve failed among axe, which puts u in a not very comfortable position to discuss in here, dont u think?
p.s.: hows syndicate btw ?
I was just commenting on Evil Thug's "those dreads getting returned is LIES, ALL LIES!" statement, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised that some of you have your SmackOMatic 2000s rather poorly calibrated. That aside, Syndicate is pretty awesome! The Anarchy Empire guys (Art of War in particular) are absolutely first-rate opponents, and I feel infinitely more respect and frenemy-style affection for them than I ever felt for aAa. So yeah, I'm quite happy up here right now; there's actually fighting to be had during my shift which is more than I could say down south.
I personally think we did pretty well in AXE! Took them a month after our leaving to usurp us as #2 on the killboards, and our position as #3 seems to be quite firmly established for the forseeable future. You'll have to pardon us if our contempt for fumbling ineptitude and willful refusal to learn from experience - be it first-hand or that of others - far outstripped any sense of obligation we felt to the alliance as a whole. But we did get a few ongoing corp injokes about the Deathgrip School of Fleet Command out of the entire thing, so it wasn't a completely futile waste of time. If only we'd had the foresight to make a soundboard while we had the chance...
And Wildcat, no. It's pretty simple. No. I want to like the IAC guys, I really do, but their recent selection of friends has made me rather ambiguous about them and this latest choice has really put them beyond the pale for me. It's a shame, but such is the way of the world. Good lads, but they've developed a rather poor taste in friends as far as I'm concerned, and I'd sooner kill my sympathies for them than willingly fight alongside Red Alliance or aAa. There are some things that are simply unforgiveable, and the immensely unsportsmanlike conduct of those two entities qualifies in my books. They might be decent sorts as individuals, but the way in which they have conducted themselves in the past means I never wish to regard them with the slightest bit of warmth. ------ Quartermaster, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence." |
Awox
I Fought Piranhas Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.22 19:59:00 -
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Originally by: Ritchler FIX DO NOT, work on a leash for anyone, BOB does not dictate fix policy, tis has already been published by BOB, nor do they pay rent or give bob anything. Ill be blunt...
[ 2006.11.30 23:13:50 ] Avernus > sry man I can't.... it's a part of our agreement with BoB [ 2006.11.30 23:13:56 ] Awox > eh? [ 2006.11.30 23:13:58 ] Awox > we're allied with BoB [ 2006.11.30 23:14:11 ] Avernus > I know, renters aren't allowed access though [ 2006.11.30 23:14:27 ] Awox > oh [ 2006.11.30 23:14:28 ] Awox > :/ [ 2006.11.30 23:14:33 ] Avernus > :( [ 2006.11.30 23:14:39 ] Awox > I'll sleep elsewhere then ffs. [ 2006.11.30 23:14:40 ] Avernus > trust me, I wish everyone could have access [ 2006.11.30 23:14:44 ] Awox > hehehe yeah [ 2006.11.30 23:14:46 ] Awox > cya buddy :)
For when the chat-log gets snipped, it's me asking for docking access for the night seeing as FIX were +10 to my current corp, and them denying it with reason: "sry man I can't.... it's a part of our agreement with BoB"
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Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.22 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Awox
Originally by: Ritchler FIX DO NOT, work on a leash for anyone, BOB does not dictate fix policy, tis has already been published by BOB, nor do they pay rent or give bob anything. Ill be blunt...
[ 2006.11.30 23:13:50 ] Avernus > sry man I can't.... it's a part of our agreement with BoB [ 2006.11.30 23:13:56 ] Awox > eh? [ 2006.11.30 23:13:58 ] Awox > we're allied with BoB [ 2006.11.30 23:14:11 ] Avernus > I know, renters aren't allowed access though [ 2006.11.30 23:14:27 ] Awox > oh [ 2006.11.30 23:14:28 ] Awox > :/ [ 2006.11.30 23:14:33 ] Avernus > :( [ 2006.11.30 23:14:39 ] Awox > I'll sleep elsewhere then ffs. [ 2006.11.30 23:14:40 ] Avernus > trust me, I wish everyone could have access [ 2006.11.30 23:14:44 ] Awox > hehehe yeah [ 2006.11.30 23:14:46 ] Awox > cya buddy :)
For when the chat-log gets snipped, it's me asking for docking access for the night seeing as FIX were +10 to my current corp, and them denying it with reason: "sry man I can't.... it's a part of our agreement with BoB"
BoB renters aren't allowed to be entertained by FIX?
Retard.
Look on the map. Please find for me any area that is denoted as FIX space. Now feel free to reference that area and post about it on this thread. Is it that hard to grasp that FIX makes deals and agreements with BoB that works for both them and us, that there is give and take in relationships where the 3rd party comes in last?
You take my polite replies to you and post them up here to drag it through the forum? Feel free to bring your two bit ass back to ED, I'll give my thanks in person.
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2006.12.22 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Cadiz Edited by: Cadiz on 22/12/2006 19:45:23 Edited by: Cadiz on 22/12/2006 19:42:29
Originally by: DeWieKat Edited by: DeWieKat on 22/12/2006 16:46:23
Originally by: Cadiz
Originally by: Evil Thug
Originally by: Malius
Nope, people are saying that because axe got all the capitals back from the logonski in question. So.. hmm .. you had to have done something wrong eh?
You still haven`t provided eve community with any kind of proof about cap ship reimbursement. I haven`t found proof on your internal forums either. I dont think that AXE leadership missed opportunity like this to boost your morale. More of that, in one post of Steel Rat, he said, that it took 1 month of heavy work to replace these ships.
Of course its up to you, whom to beleive. With destruction of your capital ships we accomplished many goals, and removing you from impass became much more easy for us.
Our corp's Phoenix pilot who lost a dread during that particular stunt got his back, so no, I can indeed confirm that those cap ships were reimbursed. Much to your chagrin I'm sure, and hell, even though we benefited, I don't even think the situation warranted a reimbursing. Gift horses and all that though, I suppose. The GMs put it in V2 station at first though, so he had to petition again to get it moved to somewhere sane.
well NOQ... uve failed in huzzah, uve failed among axe, which puts u in a not very comfortable position to discuss in here, dont u think?
p.s.: hows syndicate btw ?
I was just commenting on Evil Thug's "those dreads getting returned is LIES, ALL LIES!" statement, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised that some of you have your SmackOMatic 2000s rather poorly calibrated. That aside, Syndicate is pretty awesome! The Anarchy Empire guys (Art of War in particular) are absolutely first-rate opponents, and I feel infinitely more respect and frenemy-style affection for them than I ever felt for aAa. So yeah, I'm quite happy up here right now; there's actually fighting to be had during my shift which is more than I could say down south.
I personally think we did pretty well in AXE! Took them a month after our leaving to usurp us as #2 on the killboards, and our position as #3 seems to be quite firmly established for the forseeable future. You'll have to pardon us if our contempt for fumbling ineptitude and willful refusal to learn from experience - be it first-hand or that of others - far outstripped any sense of obligation we felt to the alliance as a whole. But we did get a few ongoing corp injokes about the Deathgrip School of Fleet Command out of the entire thing, so it wasn't a completely futile waste of time. If only we'd had the foresight to make a soundboard while we had the chance...
And Wildcat, no. It's pretty simple. No. I want to like the IAC guys, I really do, but their recent selection of friends has made me rather ambiguous about them and this latest choice has really put them beyond the pale for me. It's a shame, but such is the way of the world. Good lads, but they've developed a rather poor taste in friends as far as I'm concerned, and I'd sooner kill my sympathies for them than willingly fight alongside Red Alliance or aAa. There are some things that are simply unforgiveable, and the immensely unsportsmanlike conduct of those two entities qualifies in my books. They might be decent sorts as individuals, but the way in which they have conducted themselves in the past means I never wish to regard them in-game with the slightest bit of warmth or fondness.
Well I suppose hatred is more important than a friendship, the huzzah I knew is now truely dead, my how far we have fallen. Bah back to being "evil" for me. Have fun sitting in syndicate while the only guys that ever helped you are in a fight for thier existance. But as it was stated I think NOQ wouldnt make a big difference.
WildCat
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USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.12.22 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Avernus
Originally by: Awox
Originally by: Ritchler FIX DO NOT, work on a leash for anyone, BOB does not dictate fix policy, tis has already been published by BOB, nor do they pay rent or give bob anything. Ill be blunt...
[ 2006.11.30 23:13:50 ] Avernus > sry man I can't.... it's a part of our agreement with BoB [ 2006.11.30 23:13:56 ] Awox > eh? [ 2006.11.30 23:13:58 ] Awox > we're allied with BoB [ 2006.11.30 23:14:11 ] Avernus > I know, renters aren't allowed access though [ 2006.11.30 23:14:27 ] Awox > oh [ 2006.11.30 23:14:28 ] Awox > :/ [ 2006.11.30 23:14:33 ] Avernus > :( [ 2006.11.30 23:14:39 ] Awox > I'll sleep elsewhere then ffs. [ 2006.11.30 23:14:40 ] Avernus > trust me, I wish everyone could have access [ 2006.11.30 23:14:44 ] Awox > hehehe yeah [ 2006.11.30 23:14:46 ] Awox > cya buddy :)
For when the chat-log gets snipped, it's me asking for docking access for the night seeing as FIX were +10 to my current corp, and them denying it with reason: "sry man I can't.... it's a part of our agreement with BoB"
BoB renters aren't allowed to be entertained by FIX?
Retard.
Look on the map. Please find for me any area that is denoted as FIX space. Now feel free to reference that area and post about it on this thread. Is it that hard to grasp that FIX makes deals and agreements with BoB that works for both them and us, that there is give and take in relationships where the 3rd party comes in last?
You take my polite replies to you and post them up here to drag it through the forum? Feel free to bring your two bit ass back to ED, I'll give my thanks in person.
hehe Avernus relax dude... calm down... don't get frusterated. If you do people wont respect your diplomatic abilities...
as for your replies noted above - its written in stone - no reason to deny it cause the whole eve universe knows were Fix stands...
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Cadiz
Caldari No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.22 22:15:00 -
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Edited by: Cadiz on 22/12/2006 22:19:15
Originally by: DHB WildCat Well I suppose hatred is more important than a friendship, the huzzah I knew is now truely dead, my how far we have fallen. Bah back to being "evil" for me. Have fun sitting in syndicate while the only guys that ever helped you are in a fight for thier existance. But as it was stated I think NOQ wouldnt make a big difference.
WildCat
That is correct; the Huzzah you knew is truly dead. It was murdered. Its murderers are currently counted amongst IAC's allies. To laughingly disregard this would be to spit in the face of the principles we stuck to until the bitter end, even when comprimising them would have gotten aAa off our back. No, dear sir, as a matter of principle no other stance is imaginable; no other stance is acceptable.
If you believe in shopkeeper's scales of favours & their return, then you might consider our aid to IAC during the first McFIXKIA war to have "balanced" those. I do not personally adhere to such a vision of such, but some might.
I personally hope that one day IAC will part company with the current mongrely mob of exploiters & smacktalkers they have decided to call compatriots - I won't have to feel so conflicted about them then, because as I said before I really do like IAC itself. Until then, however, principle is an unyielding mistress, but to break faith with her is beyond unthinkable! ------ Quartermaster, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence." |
Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.22 22:17:00 -
[109]
USN, your one dimensional world view has for the most part been confined to your head for a good two years now. Unfortunately, it appears that your head, which was firmly ensconced in your ass, has finally managed to wiggle its way free to run amok in public, flinging particles of ***** in all directions has you whip your head around in glee.
The average forum goer has the intelligence to divide likely fact from fiction. When I say that FIX makes agreements with BoB, and they cover both our interests, people tend to believe me.
When you say '- its written in stone - no reason to deny it cause the whole eve universe knows were Fix stands...', it comes from a narrow minded SA sycophant who got tossed out on his ass from FIX, and has beared a monumental grudge towards anything that carries the FIX name ever since.
It doesn't matter to you who is actually in FIX, you have absolutely zero regard that from your time in FIX only a three corporations remain of those you knew.. it doesn't matter that you those who 'mistreated' you are no longer in FIX. No matter what FIX accomplishes, who we ally with, or how hard we strive, you'll never have an ounce of respect to offer despite any treatment we show you in return.
So bite me. You're a spastic troll.
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mamolian
Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.22 22:37:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Edited by: Nebba Kenezzer on 22/12/2006 05:04:44
The only triple A's I'm worried about are plugged into Shin Ra's d****.
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USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.12.22 22:43:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Avernus USN, your one dimensional world view has for the most part been confined to your head for a good two years now. Unfortunately, it appears that your head, which was firmly ensconced in your ass, has finally managed to wiggle its way free to run amok in public, flinging particles of ***** in all directions has you whip your head around in glee.
The average forum goer has the intelligence to divide likely fact from fiction. When I say that FIX makes agreements with BoB, and they cover both our interests, people tend to believe me.
When you say '- its written in stone - no reason to deny it cause the whole eve universe knows were Fix stands...', it comes from a narrow minded SA sycophant who got tossed out on his ass from FIX, and has beared a monumental grudge towards anything that carries the FIX name ever since.
It doesn't matter to you who is actually in FIX, you have absolutely zero regard that from your time in FIX only a three corporations remain of those you knew.. it doesn't matter that you those who 'mistreated' you are no longer in FIX. No matter what FIX accomplishes, who we ally with, or how hard we strive, you'll never have an ounce of respect to offer despite any treatment we show you in return.
So bite me. You're a spastic troll.
Who ever said i wanted respect from a Slave alliance such as Fix. I am proud to be who i made myself be.. Since i left Fix I AM FREE - YOU ARE A SLAVE of BOB... I fly with the birds and you SUFFER from hiding in BOB Space called Querious.
Avernus, your true colors have come out finally. You are not the calm minded diplomat with good intentions that u make yourself and your alliance look like. You have evil intentions and you use all those corps and alliances to do your dirty work. Stop Jumping on MC's Bandwagon, STOP Sucking up to Band of Brothers, STOP Using ISS as a Tool for others to engage in wars that are pointless, STOP your pointless diplomatic efforts that always fall short of success. Avernus - your frusterated because other people are finally seeing what you and Fix are really all about. You can't handle the truth Avernus and u hate it when people like myself or others in game stand up to you... Avernus - May i wish you a happy holiday and to say thank you very much for finally posting something so the whole eve universe can see who you truely are...
My Objective has been occomplished.
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Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.22 22:50:00 -
[112]
Your objective was to have me call you a troll? To throw an insult back in your face after throwing so many at myself, my corp, my alliance?
Hey, power to you man, you brought me out of my shell and I responded in kind to the viritol you take such pride in posting.
You were, are, and always will be, an ignoramus.
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USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.12.22 22:56:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Avernus Your objective was to have me call you a troll? To throw an insult back in your face after throwing so many at myself, my corp, my alliance?
Hey, power to you man, you brought me out of my shell and I responded in kind to the viritol you take such pride in posting.
You were, are, and always will be, an ignoramus.
Keep it coming Avernus - show me more... as i stated above u cant handle the truth. Your a Slave to BOB and there is nothing u can do about it... Sorry dude im so sorry for you... your own corp mates have posted complaining about how bob gets all the attention on the forums...
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DiuxDium
Casting Shadows
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Posted - 2006.12.22 23:45:00 -
[114]
Edited by: DiuxDium on 22/12/2006 23:58:18
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
F4 being taken remains to be seen. It might fall. It might not. Let the fighting ships decide that.
MC has been NOTHING but professional. A number of concerns of the game's warfare mechanics have come into question if nothing more to hear the DEV ideas about them. The fact that they had the b@llz to field motherships on stations AND gates in multiple systems says a lot about where money is spent and the reputation they have. Nothing... but... respect. As always <3
LV showed up in a morale busting, grand appearence that when you look at it... was magestic. Nothing the likes atleast I have seen and I was hit by judgement. Obviously I was a good girl all year since I lived. Santa <3
AAA joining may seem like desperation but it was bound to happen. We are allied with a lot of their freinds. We fought them side by side AXE, not as much as we'd like to have, and we fight their raiders from time to time. Despite what people say people like creamster and his raiding crew provide good fights. When they kill stuff... I can sell another ship or modules. YARR. We have respect for AAA and the Ragoons and like how they treat their freinds... its not a business or a dictator ship. It is family. That is why my corp joined IAC and why I like Ragoons.
Lets not let the thread derail into a Fix/AAA flaim fest or 'MC lost again rabble.'
We love the attention, we love the pew pew and we like clusterfarks. We started wanting pew pew and got something much, much more escalated. As ISS saying through their allies that they were only here to take F4 I have to ask why they put nearly every POS in Jby and 1 in G-7 into reinforced mode. What they got was something they and their allies and mercs didn't want. We didn't want POS war. They don't want to fight an IAC with AAA in their corner. What happens next is what popcorn was invented for.
^^ Good post. If only more from IAC read like this. ~ Peace is more Profitable for Soldiers than War for Factories.
A polite IAC post and Avernus being baited by a troll . What oh what is this world coming to!
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Hani EQ
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.23 01:04:00 -
[115]
Originally by: USN CVN72
Keep it coming Avernus - show me more... as i stated above u cant handle the truth. Your a Slave to BOB and there is nothing u can do about it... Sorry dude im so sorry for you... your own corp mates have posted complaining about how bob gets all the attention on the forums...
I saw your hostile comments towards Fix in recent weeks... I felt distain for you. Then I remembered how you were kicked out, must have been humiliating... I felt pity for you. Then I checked my calendar and saw it over almost 2 years ago... I felt concern for you. Then I saw your posts in this thread and the fact you really do believe you've achieved some kind of major victory over Fix by getting Avernus to call you a troll... Now I'm nothing but embarrassed for you.
You obviously have a skewed perception of how the wider world sees things and donĘt actually see how this makes you look. Can I suggest that instead of attempting to derail every single thread related to an action Fix is involved in, that you either bring it to our forums or start an independent thread to air your grievances/opinions about Fix? There's no way of blocking you, as can be done in game, and I'm sure I'm not the only one who's bored with your anti-Fix ramblings, please take it somewhere else. Thx.
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Doppleganger
Minmatar Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.23 01:33:00 -
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Originally by: USN CVN72 Keep it coming Avernus - show me more... as i stated above u cant handle the truth. Your a Slave to BOB and there is nothing u can do about it... Sorry dude im so sorry for you... your own corp mates have posted complaining about how bob gets all the attention on the forums...
Bitter are you? If you feel you are better then us why do you continue to comment? I feel sorry for you that you can not get over things that happened along time ago and have to follow along behind us to flame.. I nominate USN as the #1 FIX fanboi.
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Tequilapepper
Amarr Xoth Inc Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.23 01:35:00 -
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USN I just I hope I had the linguistic instrument to answer you propely. But probably that would be wasted time anyway. Congratulatios, you made it to make Avernus lose control for a moment. Enjoy the moment, if that satisfied you so much. Because in the day you will have achieved what he did, feel free to come back here to discuss with Oomega, Avernus, Tyrrax, The Enslaver and all those pilots that have built something to defend. Until then, plz let discuss those who know what they are talking about and those that want to discuss to know more. We all, both sides, are bored of the pilots like you that turn interesting discussion into a flamefest. Wheter you believe it or not, no matter what realtionships we have all that amount of respect for our enemies that allows us to respect ourselves. This is not your game. And if after 2 years you really haven't found anything else to do instead of this, I am sad for your game experience, you are wasting your money. You might think Avernus is a bad representative for FIX, but he have FIX trust and talks for FIX. In the same way as we (FIX) might think that IAC leadership is doing a bad service to IAC, but they have IAC trust and they bring it on. Is what happens when one have a shared ideal, no matter what it is and what is others opinion about that.
At the end of this all, you simply lost another opportunity to keep your mouth shut.
Regards
Tequilapepper
FIX Grunt
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.23 02:25:00 -
[118]
Avernus, that was a beautifully written and eloquent post. If you ever need a new job, please get in touch :)
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Reborn Dragon
Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.23 02:38:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Dina Jorell I'd like to make it clear that I do not approve of logoffski/logonski tactics, or any other kind of exploit (because, let's face it, that's what it is), but we cannot deny that as long as AAA are willing/are capable of using them, they will hold a tactical advantage that is very hard to combat via ordinary means.
GMs have already been contacted to verify if this is an exploit. Logon traps are not exploits in themselves, but using them to such a degree that they crash or lock up your enemy's computers or lag/crash the node is. If someone does this, they'll be warned by GMs to stop it and if they pull a logon trap like that again, they'll be headed for bans for disobeying a GM.
Put simply, if someone pulls a logon trap to make their enemy lag significantly, lock up or disconnect, it's an exploit. If they pull it just to surprise their enemy by dropping in on top of them, it's fine as long as it doesn't cause significant detriment to their enemy. The kicker is that it needs to be established beyond (reasonable) doubt that there was significant detriment to one side caused by this tactic.
I know most people don't bother asking the GMs what they can do as players to assist the GM investigations, but I have. If someone pulls this on us, I've been given a list of information we will be required to give to the GMs so that they can adequately investigate it. I'll make sure our fleet commanders are informed to prepare to collect this information in the event that AAA pull a trap on us during an operation.
Logging in a fleet at a gate to catch someone is fine but if the node lags because of the size of the fleet, it's not okay. How do you make sure you don't cross that line? Run small logoff traps or don't run them at all. 200 pilots logging on at once is 200 warnings from a GM, for sure.
LOL. I had a good laugh at this.
That is as stupid as me saying this;
"I'm sorry but I am going to have to report/petition your capital fleet to the GM's because they completely lagged me out by all logging on at the same time to destroy a POS at the most opertune time for them. Needless to say I was not able to defend my pos. Next time you do it you'll be banned."
Please, get a grip, seriously.
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Entilzah Valen
Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.23 03:23:00 -
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The hints being echoed in this thread; this is only the beginning, and I refuse to get out of its way.
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Entilzah Valen
Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.23 03:28:00 -
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USN your an incompetent dumbass.
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Tirg
Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.12.23 04:10:00 -
[122]
Troll posts removed, and replies to troll posts. This thread is now considerably shorter Please remain civil. If you feel the need to troll again, you will be warned. Instead of replying to trolls, please email us at [email protected] with the thread link, and we will take care of it. Thank you:)
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.23 04:51:00 -
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Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 23/12/2006 04:51:11 Huzzah is and always will be one of my favorite alliances. While people that were in Huzzah might still holding grudges towards -A- in a way I am glad Huzzah was defeated. I say that in no ill will towards Huzzah, infact I am saying in a greedy way.
DKOD joined IAC after Huzzah fell and the pleasure of flying in gangs, coming up with tactics and weathering the storms with them is one of the best experiences i've had in EVE.
So while it was a shame to have seen Huzzah fall I will point out that it builds friendships that probably would have never been made otherwise. The best thing about EVE is persistance, for better or worse. Something dies, something is birthed.
When we are all Omeega alts... all the bickering will be irrelevant.
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Smalum
Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.23 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Smalum on 23/12/2006 16:21:36 Edited by: Smalum on 23/12/2006 16:19:34
Originally by: Kaylana Syi Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 23/12/2006 04:51:11 Huzzah is and always will be one of my favorite alliances. While people that were in Huzzah might still holding grudges towards -A- in a way I am glad Huzzah was defeated. I say that in no ill will towards Huzzah, infact I am saying in a greedy way.
DKOD joined IAC after Huzzah fell and the pleasure of flying in gangs, coming up with tactics and weathering the storms with them is one of the best experiences i've had in EVE.
DKOD learnt alot from flying and living together with the rest of Huzzah, and for that I am thankfull. The changes that made the alliance fall was unfortunate, but in a way, not really surprising. These changes was to -A-'s advantage, and they took their chance, fair play. Even though it was rather dramatic at the time, I hold no grudge towards them.
One of the things i remember from living in Huzzah space was the constant problems we had with ISS pilots using our resources, mess up our market and handing out intel to hostiles, with little or no reaction from their leaders. This broke the deal ISS had with Huzzah and thus they eventually lost their rights to fly in that space. IAC have had the same and more problems with ISS, and has been just as generous as Huzzah was, but now it was time for IAC to say we've had enough. The escalations in this war was perhaps unforseen, but has little to do with what ammount of respect I (don't) have for their politics (ISS has sided with greed and arrogance from the start, and that has now shown their true face on the political landscape, neutrality my ass).
ISS has repeatedly failed to take responsibility for their and/or their members actions and thus been impossible to trust. -A- enjoys a good fight, wich happened to have a devestating effect for our previous home/alliance. You can guess who i'd rather have as an ally in this game.
As for being an IAC member: joining this alliance was the best thing we've done as a corp, and we've had nothing but fun since the start. We love taking part of the ups and downs of this alliance and we've gained lots of friends. Till death Kaylana, till death
edited for spelling.
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USN CVN73
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.12.23 16:36:00 -
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Edited by: USN CVN73 on 23/12/2006 16:39:02 Entilzah nice quote Hmm - It comes from a book i once read...
Happy Holidays!!!
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.23 18:23:00 -
[126]
Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 23/12/2006 18:25:23
Originally by: Smalum As for being an IAC member: joining this alliance was the best thing we've done as a corp, and we've had nothing but fun since the start. We love taking part of the ups and downs of this alliance and we've gained lots of friends. Till death Kaylana, till death
Our allies have a song that pretty much sums up IAC right now. I've been listening to it for the past day.
The Saint War
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Ilany
BANK of HUZZAH FEDERATION HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2006.12.23 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Cadiz That is correct; the Huzzah you knew is truly dead.
Since it's the pantomime season: "Oh no it isn't".
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matty01
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.12.23 20:13:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Ilany
Originally by: Cadiz That is correct; the Huzzah you knew is truly dead.
Since it's the pantomime season: "Oh no it isn't".
let it go, its over...just let it go
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Ilany
BANK of HUZZAH FEDERATION HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2006.12.23 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: matty01 you're like brett favre, for anyone who knows who he is
I perceive this is intended to be some kind of insult. I might be a bit girly, but I can assure you I most certainly do not wear body armour or play a game called "football" that involves minimal foot-to-ball interaction.
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matty01
The Priory
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Posted - 2006.12.23 23:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ilany
Originally by: matty01 you're like brett favre, for anyone who knows who he is
I perceive this is intended to be some kind of insult. I might be a bit girly, but I can assure you I most certainly do not wear body armour or play a game called "football" that involves minimal foot-to-ball interaction.
basically, his career is over...should've retired 2 years ago with some dignity, now he's just a worthless QB trying to hang on to his past
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Kashre
Minmatar Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.25 00:50:00 -
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Originally by: USN CVN72
Originally by: Kashre
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Lol, thats funny. I could of sworn BoB control FiX space and defend it when FiX arn't up to the job. Not the mention FiX's current trend of riding on MC's coat tails because they can't organise their own gank.
AFAIK the only times BOB has ever helped defend Querious was a> when they initially took the stations after we got the Big Dogpile, and b> during the defence of our second outpost egg. It's not like they're holding our willies when we go to the john. :P
Kashre - forgive me for smacking you dude since ur one of the nice people in fix but are you living in a Bubble Wrap? Saying the only times BOB has helped defend you guys on those two occasions is like sleeping through the last two years and only waking up when u got some free milk to suck on...
Kashre i know u know the history of fix so i wont remind you any more.
As for Phrixus Zephyrs post you are wiser than 1000 diplomats. I salute you for that statement!!!
USN CVN7273
Uh yeah... I dunno what you saw, but for most of the history of FIX BOB was running around shooting us, because we were allied with Fountain. They never lifted finger one to help us in any capacity, except helping us into our new clones, until CODA came and dogpiled us. Then they kicked CODA out, took the stations, and until our second egg went up I have never, once, seen a BOB fleet in querious after they took the stations. FIX and some of the renters do 99.9% of the work defending the region from the regular incursions by everyone and their mother.
If I misesd some joint BOB/FIX ops in there somewhere when I was away from the game for a couple months, that sucks, cause it would have been fun. :P
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Cadiz
Caldari No Quarter.
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Posted - 2006.12.25 01:41:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Ilany
Originally by: Cadiz That is correct; the Huzzah you knew is truly dead.
Since it's the pantomime season: "Oh no it isn't".
A name held by an alt for administrative purposes does not count. ------ Quartermaster, No Quarter "There is no problem that cannot be solved by the judicious application of violence." |
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